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The first chapter of summer break........
This is becoming very interesting.
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....And they are so fucked up they corrupted their Elements of Harmony in what could be the worst possible way.
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Corruption?
The argument could be made that the Elements of Harmony in Granum lack purity and are faulty.
Perspectives and all that.
I would argue(as someone whose middle name is quite literally loyal) that unquestioning obedience is actually the opposite of pure loyalty and that instead it is doing what is best for the person regardless of how they may feel about it(still a bad thing, but in a different way) up to and including killing them if they lose their sense of self. But i guess it could be interpreted as obedience by some as well
I'm having a good time trying to figure out what the other "absolute" elements of harmony could be. I'm going to call it and predict now that the equivalent of Magic = Power and the equivalent of Generosity = Sacrifice, but I'm not certain about the others. I can see the idea of Honesty being twisted into a sort of Big Brother surveillance state concept, but I'm not sure what I'd call that. Depending on how you interpret it, Laughter could be a sort of forced morale or refusal to ever give up, but I'm really not sure about that one. As for Kindness, I have no idea how THAT could be twisted into something the Night Stallion would value. I am greatly interested in seeing where this goes.
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Kindness... kindness is taking all of those pathetic lives, letting them live, and allowing them to become a part of something greater than themselves... that is kindness.
/sarcasm intended.
//shudders at the horrible thought.
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I honestly think it is better we just not think about it for now.
kindness - ??? (no clue. what is absolute kindness? what is the opposite of cruelty? perhaps control?)
generosity - ??? (no clue. im gonna guess sacrifice. you do not own you, the nation owns you)
loyalty - obedience
honesty - ??? (no clue. that is absolute honesty or truth, confession? you have nothing to fear from big brother if you hide nothing from big brother)
laughter - ??? (no clue. what is it's purpose? to keep ponies happy. morale maybe? service? propaganda? indoctrination?)
magic - ??? (magic might be a constant, judging by what Mr. night said)
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There is also the fact that foreign Elements of Harmony might have different values...
The Element of Courage.
The Element of Integrity.
Different society, different values.
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So its like the matrix ... when the robots made the humans batteries and had them dream they were still alive...Could the night stallion be doing that too? Those unicorns don't know that they're just batteries? They think they're living their lives away somewhere good while he drains them dry?
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Straight up Element of Strength. It's what holds together their society, right? Thus it is harmonious.
In some stories, Element of Magic is basically Element of Being The Most Powerful Unicorn.
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Oh ho ho ho...
Giving them pleasant dreams would be an expenditure of magic and there would be a cost of energy.
It is easier to just wipe their minds clean and leave them blank.
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I think Kudz said somewhere in the comments (good luck finding it!), one of the considered "far ends" of The Chase-verse was the Equestrian unicorns used as batteries for an advanced society in the same way, except they were given idyllic dreams as a "reward."
I didn't consider it very much different from what's happening here, "kindness" or not.
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thats sick and flipping awesome.
The harmonically corrupt elements of harmony.
Magic = Magic
Loyalty = Obedience
Honesty = Singularity
Generosity = Flamboyance
Laughter = Ecstasy
Kindness = Obsession
(i.e. my two cents on the "other" elements)
Any virtue taken to an extreme becomes a vice.
..... That is not harmony. That is order.
Its not really a case of semantics. Harmony is about balance, of combining the light and the dark, chaos and order. Harmony is more difficult to sustain because of two opposites intermingly. Order is about suppression of chaos. So long as it and chaos is in battle then thiugns go well, but once one gets the advantage that is when things go wrong, especially with Order.
This little revelation just makes me all the more confused about your portrayal of harmony in this story. Having this makes it seem like the magic has all been mislabeled. Harmony is supposed to be something formed when order and chaos find balance, a large majority of the hidden themes in mlp imply this.
Considering the extremes going on here, how could harmony be a mundane force? There is just too much difficulty in sustaining it if we do have these extremes now.
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Think of it as a set of scales.
If the scales are severely tipped out of balance, you have to apply greater counter-measures to restore the scales to order.
So are these Ponies being fed into the tree of harmony? because it kind of feels like that is what they would do. get all the great artifacts, the tree of harmony, the crystal heart, and every other magical Macguffin and use them to defend the city. it is possible that at some point nice defense is starting to fail them and they could only be sustained by the life force of the population. after years and years of pouring the heart and soul of these ponies into the magical whatnotstheir power became corrupt or pure depending on how you want to look at it.
Sooo... The Night Stallion is Celestia's counterpart. White/black, female/male, Celestia enjoys empowering her little ponies for those she feels deserve it, the Night Stallion's magic weakens others who he feels are undeserving and already weak.
And what if The Element of Obedience had been a pegasus? A fancy horn thing wouldn't do them much good.
I'm not quite sure I get why Twilight is so upset. Because the one to try and kill her was Rainbow Dash's counterpart in a way? Because ther was the potential for the Element of Loyalty to have made Rainbow perfectly obedient? Sorry, the horror bit isn't quite sinking in for me.
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The Elements of Harmony have changed shape you know...
6055455 That is kinda my issue. Things will almost always tilt towards chaos or order rather than meeting inbetween. Harmony and order are words often relatated by in the end order surpresses darkness and chaos, even if it has to invent its own, and harmony invites both sides ot the table. harmony itself is balance, its order only coming in the sahpe of order and chaos conflicting without trying to stab each other with the silverware.
I guess i am thinking that harmony would not be some mundane force if we have the extreme of order in the mix here. The concept of light and darkness coming together and creating a force that is beyond either of them. Yet for some reason a force representing such a difficult feat is basically the most base and aweakest of all magics in this story.
WAT?!?!?!?
6055455 Least it seems that way. Shrugs.
You have an extra word here. :) Loved the reveal, and I wonder how much of Twi's last set of tears was due to the realization that, had she fought as she had planned, she would have been fighting an 'alternate Dashie'?
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That was the mirror version of Trixie actually.
Twilight's moment of existential horror was the idea that a free spirit like Dash, a pony that she loves, becoming a slave to her loyalty through total obedience.
6055470 Twilie suddenly realised that she was looking at Dash´s representation...her very core...but twisted beyond repair. That what shocked her.
To be true, a lot of kudzu´s chase revelations are VERY subtle. At first I understood that Twilie, being emotionally fragile (pregnant hormones) coud be the reason of such overreaction. Only with another reading, and with the help of all you in the comments, that I realized the true horror for her. Twilie is booth the representation of magic AND friendship.
Damn, there is this concept whithin the story that I´m starting to understand, but I don´t know how to explain even in my own language, even less in english. What I´m trying to say is that Twilie is the core of everything. She is magic. She is friendship. She is harmony. She is love. She is EVERYTHING nedeed to counter the Night Alicorn actions. Every way, every action, will go through her. She is the answer AND the way to reach what is nedeed. When she saw what the very core of her being can be turned to, specially one related to someone she loves that much, it was like a stak in her heart. It is VERY interesting that Celestia herself took more time to realize the horror then Twilie.
I think that the TRUE major revelation in this chapter is not the aether part, the twisted element part. But Twilie´s reaction. Also, something ´bout Bucky´s reaction is ringing something on me, but I can´t put my finger on it.
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This. More or less. As I stated in a reply.
Well, if Bucky ever gets his counter portals working, he now has a target. Take out the unicorns in those stalls and the mirror ponies will be, if not removed as a threat entirely, at least majorly distracted. Plus it frees those unicorns in probably the only way left to them...
*obsessively munching popcorn as scene unfolds*
Then
Evil typo! By the power of Celestia I compell you!
By the power of Celestia I compell you!
By the power of Cel—
Aw, fuggit...Kudz, you take care of this.
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I think the Night Stallion is a twisted and gender-flipped version of Twilight. My reasoning is as follows:
1) Twilight found the Elements "here", and the Night Stallion has obviously found a set of Elements "there"
2) Male Trixie over "there", female Trixie over "here"
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well.... Shit
Very interdesting.
Let's see if I can guess the other corrupted elements:
Power
Truth
Selflessness
Sacrifice
Madness
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I can agree with all but madness, but i don't have an idea for what that one could be. Also i don't believe them to be corrupted, i think they could be manifestations of different values. Rather than the mirror world having Elements of Harmony, they might instead have the Elements of Order. Other universes, the ones full of draconequuses perhaps, cold have the elements of chaos. So while they would feel similar to the EoH due to being associated with order and chaos, they could be their own relics.
Just an idea, i might be wrong.
"They're being used as batteries!"
Um... you do the same thing with Type Is. You just pay them better.
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Yes, but that isn't their only purpose and they aren't completely brain-dead.