How far will one stallion run to escape what pursues him?
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You know, I'm beginning to realise that these mirror travellers... are fucking morons. All they have to do is see reports/newspapers of Luna and Celestia ruling side by side, and, just maybe, some of the more intelligent ones would pause to think 'hang on a moment, is this mare really evil?'
...but I get the feeling this lot that are here are just the cannon fodder, sent to establish and hold a beachfront whilst the rest of the troops gather.
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There may be another, I'll have to re-read to make sure. Edit: Nevermind, Lucky got the only other one I saw.
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And having read through a few books in the local library, they learn that Princess Luna has already became Nightmare Moon once.
ONCE.
Having lived in a world where she rampaged, do you take the chance of her doing so again?
5358690 Just to clarify, on what scale of destruction did the mirror travelers experience during their war? What percentage of the original population of Equestria/the planet is left and how much of that was caused by Nightmare compared to the Demons?
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That will be revealed over time.
But I will say this. They have one city, it is called Refuge, and it is the only place on their dead planet where you can find living things. They steal everything they need to survive from other dimensions.
Everything else... is quite literally hell on earth.
Little does Princess Luna know that ponies' eyes have similar properties.
Also, this is the first time Bucky has ever disgusted me on a personal level. So there's that.
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5358713 Huh, well, now I see why they are so desperate and would risk attacking different realities. It probably would be simpler to just ask for help from the different worlds, though that would probably require not being semi-insane from fighting Nightmare and then the Demons for however long it has been. On a different note, I wonder if we are going to be seeing Sombra or Platinum any time soon?
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Yes. Platinum has finally stopped screaming and annoying the various Lords of Tartarus.
Soon...
5358736 No, it's actually rather surprising, at least for me. I expected mind magics to play a part in the interrogation, But I expected more Level Five of the Inquisition's torture manual, not something closer to Level Six sensory deprivation but much, much worse. It does not expand dong.
interesting concept with how the portals stay open, lacking the knowledge of how to create a stable accessible portal.
however i am not getting the issue with what bucky did. discord's own mind alteration spell was rather easy to break once twilight realized how.
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A far more troubling thought... why did they choose this Equestria to take over?
Why not some other reality?
Ponder that for a while.
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This isn't something that can be broken. This is dark magic literally lobotomising the brain and regressing them into foalhood.
In short, this is why Celestia and Luna both were so disgusted. This is permanent.
5358752 whether or not that is true depends on something i have been wondering. is the concept of the True Self in the chase?
A picture for Bucky's new found interrogation method!
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To a limited extent, but please, don't try to argue this. There are reasons, even if they are not explained now.
Bucky didn't want to treat his enemies as anything less than an equine. He knew he ran that risk, demonising them and treating them badly.
By quite literally foalifying them, he made sure that he would never abuse them or bring harm to them. This is Bucky being clever.
"WHAT WAS SUNDERED AND UNDONE SHALL BE WHOLE THE TWO MADE ONE!"
Also, are they ever going to encounter none-mirror traveler worldhoppers?
You know, I guess I'm just a pragmatist... but I have no problems with what Bucky did. It's war. You do whatever you need to do to win/survive. You can feel remorse after the conflict is over.
Nice job as usual, Kudzu. Didn't need the warning, but I can see why you put it up.
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You know, that the problem right there. Celestia and Luna fear what Bucky is becoming yet they justify actions they take as "Well, we're at war so it's OK to do morally bankrupt things to win." That is when morality counts the most, when your backed into a corner with nothing but bad choices or bad outcomes. Morales are not convinces to be thrown aside when things get bad. But they more they do the worse Bucky seems get. And their fear of him grows, do they not realize that there is a direct corallation between how they execute this war and Bucky? I don't think it's too late, but I doubt they'll change soon.
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Look at it from their perspectives for a moment. He's the nascent alicorn of war...
He's supposed to shoulder the burdens of war so they don't have to.
It isn't even a conscious act, they're just taking him for granted that he's there and that this is what he is good at.
Purpose driven society. Ponies fulfill their purpose and ponies in general don't question anything when they fall into or are crammed into their niche.
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Yes, but what happens after. They arnt think about that, what happens to the Alicorn of war when there is no more war. Normally you'd think Bucky will just go back to being Bucky. But if his... Equinity? Morality? is all used up by then there won't be a pony left. He'll be a machine, a tool of war with no purpose. At best hell just wither and rust away at worse... well I guess all I can say is all according to plan.
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On the topic of "weird, not fully understood motivations," why not simply pull an Exodus and relocate to a new home? Only reasons i can see to not jump ship are some slowly suicidal combination of nostalgia and a crusade to beat back the demons. But that seems rather like a losing battle. Being a group of refugees isn't fun, but having a sun and moon and plant life is usually better than not having them. Just gather up whoever's still alive and jump plane once a new not overrun with Abyssal legions world is found. From what the pegasus said, it's hard to open a portal from Equestria to the Mirror-World, so it's unlikely the demons could follow them to their new/old home. Isn't that sort of what Equestria would be to them? Jumping 'back in time' to a place where shit still went down, but it went a whole hell of lot better than where you were? That being a place that only has 1 hell (Tartarus) instead of 2 (Abyss and what's left of the mortal world)?
Or is that what they're trying to do now, but they want to make sure Nightmare Moon in potentia is out of the way first? Which still seems weird to me in a "We literally needed to unleash Hell on Earth to get this done the first time, and that didn't go so well. What's the plan now?" sort of way. Also, voices whispering to you of untold wealth and resources just out of your grasp but here's how to get to them after you gain tremenous power via godslaying by way of trucking with demon lords is almost never a good thing. (besides, you don't truck with demons, they are just unreliable, truck with devils, the terms will likely screw you over anyway, but they will at least stick to the contract you sell your soul/family/country for.)
Best motivation i can come up with is they've been fighting so long it's hard to not fight. And with tribalism in full force, and no Earth Pony therapy at all, they're likely dangerously unstable. Also, if leader of last city on mirror-Equus is being guided by otherworldly voices, well that's possibly Chaos/Mirror-Discord trying to break in and shut current Equus down, or possibly Omnicorn working on multiple fronts to speed the end via another pawn. Or possibly some lingering ghost of Nightmare, if gaining his powers caused the Night Stallion to more or less suck up a bit the Nightmare. Or the guy is just going more crazy from SIMS (Suddenly Increased Magic Syndrome) and has no one to hold his head together what with the tribalism and junk.
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When Bucky had his nightmare about ascending, he realized that if all war ended on his current world, he could simply open a portal to a different world and continue there... his destruction of life would not stop with his current world/reality.
I'm surprised Luna finds Bucky's actions uncomfortable, given that she is mostly 100% fine with emotional control, she levied it against Bucky... The Myrmidons also have an element of emotional control, with Luna making their worthiness dependent on what Luna thinks is desirable, although conditioning them to duty isn't exactly emotional control so there's an element of actual trust and treating like an adult, even if she conditions them to not be free from her. And Luna has already admitted to manipulating pony's emotions in their dreams in order to
punish them for having problemsimprove them. Bucky's just taking a more direct approach to it.5358773 limited degree is rather vague when speaking of a seemingly inalterable likely supernatural aspect. but fair enough.
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and that is aproblem, War is never ending. The only way to stop it is to destroy everything. Not an outcome any mortal wants. But, Bucky is fighting a war against war itself. If he does succeed and stops war there has to be a part of him left afterwards or it'll all have been for nothing.
Just. So. AWSOME *pulls a Rainbow Dash moment*.
Crap, is there anything dark magic can't do?!
Speaking of symbiotic relations, what happened to Bucky and Pina's research project into the therapeutic effects of Earth Pony touch? They seemed eager to look into it before coming back from the Shetlands but have completely forgotten about it for the past 150 chapters or so. Sparkler and DT could use some of that... at least until the changeling-inspired pharmaceuticals become available.
Are they after this Equestria, because Nightmare Moon has not destroyed it and will likely not turn ever again? I feel this is the case here and they need to move here because they cannot survive for a prolonged period of time elsewhere...even in the other realms, since the other realms are not as ideal as this one.
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He would become Juggernaut, The Eternal Conflict, The Oncoming Storm, the Tide of Blood, Wrath Incarnate, the Winter of Your Discontent, a Windigo's Windigo, (about three names ago i just started doing this to see how many i could come up with, several of these are appropriated from other things, kudos if you can spot those, and some are probably going to be just silly) Destroyer of Worlds, Ender of All Things, He Who Can Only Be Stopped By Squishy Grey Pegasus Plot (see what i mean?), Defiler of Peace, the Maimed Maimer, the Drunken Disaster, the Claw of Cataclysm, the Horned Reaper, Death's Hardest Worker. The Unmaker, The Groundshaker (... bootyquaker. sorry that one just popped into my head because i've never actually listened to that song, only half-listened, so it only took half a rhyme to set that one off), Army of One, Conqueror of the Cosmos, Dominion Evermore, the Beast, Layer of Wastes (that one seemed better in my head, out here it looks more like toilet humor), Broker of Battle, Visitor of Violence, the Chill of the Grave, ...
i think i'll take a break there. if anyone else can come up with other titles Bucky would be given if he ascended to become the Alicorn of War, destroyed Equus, and then moved on to other worlds, feel free to chime in with your own badges of Infamy.
5359002 The Lord of Eternal Winter and Death
5358957 nope
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ERIS BE PRAISED, PEOPLE DO PAY ATTENTION!
**Slumps down and dies under his desk**
5358749 This is the last one standing. All the others have been destroyed one way or another.
And so Bucky shows the darker side of his abilities and station. Curious.
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Other realities were far less pleasant perhaps.
Imagine a world where griffons and their industrialism took over.
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Kudzu, you cannot die until this is completely completed. It is impossible.
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I always wanted to be a lich...
5359179 Yeah...that would be a smelly, dirty world. Also take into consideration the mirror travelers probably stumbled across this reality.
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They know of others. They steal from several, but are invading Equestria.
Imagine... leaving one reality, heading to the next, and finding Nightmare Moon again.
5359216 They would bring demons to repeat the process...I would assume they know nothing of Celestia, given only Selena seemed to have power over the sun and moon.
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Pina and Bucky are long overdue to dust off that EP therapy research project they perused back in the Shetlands... they were supposed to look into it after coming back to Equestria but appear to have completely forgotten about that plan for the last 150-200 chapters.
And now, with changeling alchemy/medicine, EP therapy may fall out of favor for tribalist unicorns and pegasi: swallowing a pill is much more convenient than finding a sympathetic EP (when you do not already have existing access to one) and allowing him/her in your personal space.
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Luna, for the most part, performs therapy and or lays in means of restraint.
Bucky performed a lobotomy.
Celestia and Luna, on some part of their minds, are busy asking,"what if this happens to our subjects?"
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The school hasn't opened yet...
Also, one little changeling isn't enough to provide all of Equestria with drugs.
And given to how protective Celestia has become, that wouldn't work out well, forcible extractions like the mirror travelers were doing.
5359142 how does the most adaptive species of the ponies end up dying out before its counterparts?
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Please point out exactly where it says they died out?
5359258 well your reaction to that comment seemed to imply there ARE no earth ponies left in that world to create any sort of stability as the pegasi and unicorns seem incapable of doing that themselves.
also I am gonna make a wild guess and say this night stallion is in fact bucky's equivalent.
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It probably can't make cookies.