How far will one stallion run to escape what pursues him?
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And now the entire Crystal Pony race has forcibly become a hivemind of sorts? Well, I guess that's why their decision didn't matter to the plot, then. Egh. So, how many thousands of ponies are now linked to Shining Armor who didn't want to be?
"Thanks for your help! Now fuck off! We don't like your kind around here."
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No... that isn't quite what happened. The crystal ponies themselves are individuals. Shining Armor exists to serve the collective will. If a pony is in pain, he is aware of it. If a pony feels fear, he is aware of it. He knows everything they are feeling and now exists to look after their whims.
More of this will be explained in time, but once again DO NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON FIRST IMPRESSIONS!
Really, has nobody learned this yet?
I don't like shining anymore, utmost jerk, excusable, still a whorse
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Try looking at it through Shining Armor's perspective.
Wow, that sucks. Twilight can't go to visit Shining anymore. Feels.
Harsh, but necessary.
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I'm glad that somebody understands.
OHMYGOD, Shining Armor in all his MARY SUE glory!!! The Crystal Paladin!!! So Epic!
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Yikes... it looks like Shining is being forced into an extremist "Lawful Good" type of mindset. I have never heard anything good come from that kind of purist mindset. And I have read of an awful lot of bad.
This is the kind of thing you hear from Nazis, Crusaders, the KKK, and Jihadists. It starts pretty tame with "you don't belong here", but when a group decides to eject the attributes they don't like, it's not long before they decide that the ones they don't like are evil. And it's then a short jump from just not welcoming them to actively hunting them down to exterminate them.
Sure, Shining Armor would never allow it. But he would never banish his sister either. He's obviously not the one in charge.
Hopefully Cadance will grow up and take the reins before this can become an issue.
Ok. Won't stick with first impressions but really want it reversed 'cause damn.
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To be fair, Twilight Sparkle has used dark magic, along with Bucky, who has the Taint.
So has Celestia.
So has Luna.
The Crystal Defender allows no dark shadow into the empire he protects.
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LOL, sorry he just is and its so awsome. Fueled by love, he becomes one with the people of the land. My inner sue squeed so hard.
Btw, trying not to make assumptions, but wont Shining's no evil policies hurt the tourism market?
"I'm sorry sir, but your inner darkness is unacceptable for entry into the Crystal Empire."
"Honey what is he talking about?"
"Uhh... nothing... I have... unpaid taxes... yeah that's it... hehe..."
"I'm sure your mistress, and several under aged mares would say otherwise."
"LoveyouhoneyenjoytheCrystalEmpiregottogopaymytaxesbye!"
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It is only those who have used dark magic.
They're gonna bounce off the shield.
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The wording might have been clearer, Kudzu.
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... Did you just liken the Nazis to Lawful Good? Eleven years as a Paladin, I am QUITE offended good sir!
5447351 and how long before it (yes, I say 'it'. That's clearly not Shining anymore, it's the crystal heart wearing his skin like Ed Gein) decides that it needs to destroy the rest of the country for that exact reason? The crystal empire can't be safe, Cellybeans and Moonbutt used dark magic! We MUST wage war and try to destroy them, it's the only way we can be safe!
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hmmm I see, so it's those tainted by darkness magic. Magics fuels by hate and pain, magics that if used in the Crystal Empire could taint the magic that fuels all of Equestria positive magics. So Shining has made the Crystal Empire a magical Clean room.
So, is it the will of the crystal ponies or the crystal heart which banished Twilight and Bucky? I lean towards a mix of both...
Very bittersweet.
Only Cadence can lift the ban when she resumes her throne and only Twilight will be there...
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DEFENDER. Not attacker. He now exists to be a shield for the Crystal Empire.
More will be explained in time... sheesh... the old lessons of this story just never carry over.
I have to say the most off putting thing about this situation was:
No seriously. You'll collect her. Makes her sound like an object of no free will. Hell, I'll wonder her feeling about learning this exile.
5447377 wait when did twilight? is it the want it need it spell or???
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She cast Dark Magic back when the Crystal Empire reappeared in the show. Ironically enough it was to find and rescue the Crystal Heart and the Crystal Empire.
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Remember in the show when Twilight and Celestia had that private lesson about dark magic? And Twilight used it in the crystal empire to find Sombra's secrets?
Well.... That was unexpected
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ahhhhhh, i completely forgot about that, thanks for the reminder
So with the Crystal Heart having a quasi-intelligence because of how Sombra created it now being merged with Shining Armor, all dark magic-touched magic users are barred entry. It will be interesting to see how things play out down the road, when the Night Stallion and cronies meet with the Crystal Defender. Well, assuming we get to see that. And it makes sense that Shining's strength would be highest in the Empire, considering the form of the city and the capacity for Crystal Ponies to potentially be living focus crystals.
I wonder how this will affect Sentinel when he travels to destroy the remnants of Sombra's shadow in the future. This is assuming said shadow is contained in or around the Crystal Empire.
So many details remain unexplained. For all that are just jumping to conclusions, look at the rest of the story before you assume something based on just this much info. Kudzu has spun a web that would give Spiderman a hard time. I have yet to see a plot point happen that left me disappointed in The Chase.
That said, even if Shining Armor was placed in a happy hippy magical protector Gary Stu position, I'm sure there would be larger reasons going on than the immediately obvious.
5447409 You can rationalize literally anything as 'defensive'. I don't trust this fuckin' skinwalker-golem Bucky and Twilight sacrificed Shining to create as far as I could throw it.
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she is destined to rule the empire. As a part of the will of the Empire it is his duty to insure she fulfills this destiny. His hostility twords Bucky is due to the fact that Bucky is the counter point to the Love magic that fuels the Crystal Empire. His presence taints the magic of the kingdom and so Shining has stated clearly how the Crystal Heart feels on the matter.
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but don't you see, that the problem with the Fates in general they are willing to do "anything" to preserve life. If that means creating a homicidal automaton that keeps the balance the so be it. Shining is the least of their problems and now Bucky has a kill button if he ever goes rouge. It's what the Fates wanted.
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I'm aware of that. Its the word collect rubs me the wrong way. It makes her sounds like an object. Less than a pony. As if she exists as a nothing more than a tool for the sake of ruling the Crystal Empire. Celestia v2 in a way.
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I think it's a language thing, where I grew up people say that all the time. "I'm here to collect my kids." or "Go collect your husband befor he makes a fool of himself." To me it feels more like Shining is being direct and non negotiable. I WILL be by to get her, regardless of whether you are ready or not. Not there to woo her, not there to see if she is ready, there to collect her.
5447481 That's lovely, but that doesn't mean it's not going to stab them in the back as soon as it 'rationalizes' it. And how long before it goes all Asimov and becomes a dictator worse than Sombra in the name of 'protection'?
You take a construct like that, give it that much power and that broad a directive, you're asking for trouble.
I really don't like the turn that Shining took here. It's like he has given up all free will and is now horribly biased against anyone with any sort of taint. What will he do if someone that was forceably immersed in dark magic comes beging for help? They were tainted against their will but from his actions here he'd just completely reject them. He just feels rather soulless now.
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but it's not, it's Shining Armor. He is as much a part of it as the Crystal Heart is. Sombra was tainted that's why he went all Psycho to "protect" the empire. Shining is not. He is what Sombra should have been, instead of being motivated by hate and fear Shining is motivated by love. If after the loss of one he cares about most and their unborn children he hasn't fallen into darkness then it is highly unlikely he will fall now.
god dammit, im too drunk not to be tearful at this
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Its not a language thing. Its the connotation/situation. Collecting your kids or a drunk/idiotic husband making a fool of himself is one thing. Collecting Cadance and sticking her into the Crystal Empire as if she is a tool to rule is another thing. The Crystal Empire can end up being a gilded cage for her similar to Cantelot being one for Celestia. A cage in which the most prominent figures in her life are no longer able to visit.
If she doesn't end up loving Shining Armor as she did before dying it makes it even worse. If the "fusion" changed his personality it may make it even harder.
She may end up being just like Celestia who is currently relearning what it means to be a pony.
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Feels weird that I'm agreeing with you on this story, especially since I'm normally all for the holy-protector type. But this seems... inflexible. Inflexibility leads to things like AI becoming sentient and deciding humans will always cause calamity until they're expunged. As much as I hear to wait and see, unless Shining manages to predominate the Heart's internal intelligence, he is essentially just a vehicle for the Heart - if he's even still alive in there.
Also, offense and defense are the same thing - it just depends on how you rationalize it. Pre-emptive attacks are a defense. He's quite the threat currently, with the reasoning and will available to him.
5447557 That is NOT Shining. The first thing out of Shining's mouth wouldn't be threatening to murder his sister. This is a golem, a magically created intelligence. It's essentially a machine that used Shining's body as a template. It may have some of his memories, but it is certainly not him.
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sorry I don't see it that way. While yes no one has even considered the wants and desires of the child, it has been predestined that she will rule the Crystal Empire. And while Shining isn't taking in terms of what her desires in the future might be the same can be said of anyone else. Bucky brought her from hell only because he needed her to balance him out. The Fates themselves only see the destinies of ponies as tools to manipulate. So why is this one comment about how Shining will see that her destiny is fulfilled so off putting? I think it frames his personality more than some ominous forshadowing.
5447571 Mhm. This is some serious I, Robot shit. This isn't 'holy protector', this is 'forced hivemind all those who we feel don't belong are banished upon pain of death'.
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Shadow magic != dark magic. Dark magic would better be called 'anti-harmony magic'. It is the polar opposite (at least in my understanding). Shadow magic is a form of harmony magic. Therefore this change should not affect Sentinel at all. Dinky won't be able to help though....
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it was not the first thing he said, and after a long conversation about how he was filled with love...
Bucky is the one who is threatened with death, because he is the Rightful heir to the throne. He is the greatest threat to Cadence's rule and if he ever felt like it he could walk right in and declare himself king. So the rule protects Cadence's throne, and kills any loop hole Bucky might decide to take advantage of.
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But it turned Twily into a crystal pony even though she had used dark magic, while it made Sombra's shadow implode. Or is it just now that the spell has been completed that dark magic users are banned completely?
5447643 He's still threatening to murder his supposed allies and friends within a minute of going all Skynet.
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Think of how much pain dark magic has brought upon the crystal ponies... He just doesn't want that to happen again.
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Destiny apparently can be altered or changed. Shining's Cutie Mark went through subtle differences. Bucky is fulfilling what he was supposed to do as the Alicorn of War without ascending and apparently managing to change the future that was originally shown to him by Omnicorn.
While Bucky was panicking about the loss of his counterbalance, had he gone to Tartarus with that being his only reason and motivation, I have doubts he would've succeeded.
Its off putting because we've seen what has become of Celestia after 1000 years in her "cage" of Canterlot and finally seeing her recovering and finding what its like to be a pony again. I worry for Cadance going through the same thing. Only difference is her cage is telling her major family figures: "Don't come in or I'll kill you". She can leave for awhile obviously but her responsibilities will always force her back.
5447663 That's actually a really good point. She's gonna grow up scared shitless of Shining.
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not Murder, magical obliteration. Much like what happened to Sombra love energy will react to Bucky's Dark magic like matter to anti-matter. Its a warning sign posted for his safty.