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Field boss time! Its coming...
The Super Kraken from the Lust Pits of Tartarus?
Damn sentinel can take charge
Is it the one that banged lyra? Seems to fit the description.
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No... that's a demon.
This is... something else entirely. It is a sewer mutant. And I can't say no more!
Why not just get the pegasi to cause a cloudburst over the city, that way all the sewers will be flushed clean, and have them put a patrol over the exit pipes that go to the ocean in case anything comes out?
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And what if it doesn't come out? What if it just swims around... what if it has eggs or something and the rising water spreads the eggs around...
anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Words to stay alive by! Always double tap.
referencing events mentioned before, with the mirror guys......
sighs. i am having a hard time seeing the mirror walkers as much of a threat as i did before since the night stallion appeared. his mentality is so counter productive and blunt that it makes it a bit implausible that he would be so effective a threat. mainly cause he is so narrow minded and inflexible in his ideology that it seems rather implausible that he is an effective leader. that can only get you so far. it might be what allows him to fight against demons, but it does not seem so effective against more tactical enemies. it can also itnerfere with adaptation and developing new methods.
culturally this is also an issue. it seems implausible that such a war happy society would produce very many scientists to begin with. it would be unappealing. so where do they get enough scientists, and competent ones, to create new technology or even manufacture biological weapons? reverse engineering is still heavily reliant on scientists who are competent enough to study the technology.
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The real horror of how they survive hasn't been fully revealed yet. But it is coming.
They steal. That is their primary means of survival. They go into other realities, they take food, medicine, research, and even other SPOILERS! and they take everything that isn't nailed down.
They survive in the same way that the Mongols survived and Alexander the Great survived when he made his long march to India.
I don't know how to help you understand this, but these tactics DO work.
Human history is full of success stories.
Welcome Raptors to Uncle Touchys Pleasure Dungeon!
6004729 oh i am far from saying these tactics would nto work. just that they have their limitations, largely in technological advancements. warrior cultures of this nature are rarely very advanced because their tactics rely upon having warriors rather than scientists. military combat may be more advanced, but ultimately the development of more civlian things are made redundant and more complex things like biological weapons become unlikely.
the mirror walkrs also have the massive disadvantage of their lands being utterly unsustainable. meaning unlike even the mongols, they cannot survive without the theft, further creating a social pressure that would prevent the likelyhood of scientific interests. especially when scientists are viewed as so expendable.
put simply, kinda hard to have the people required to figure out how to use stoeln tech when they are viewed as expendable if they make it their focus.
6004777
Which is why you steal the scientists too and use mind control on them!
I bet that never once crossed your mind, did it?
Explain to me how this works.
No!
ZAP!
Okay, you see, it works like this and this is how you cause this to happen.
I can't help but think Bucky is becoming a changeling...
Probably wrong, but it's a neat thought.
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Just a touch of changeling magic from the Shadowbolt Initiative.
6004786 isn't mind control dark magic? and they have a ridiculous amount of fear of dark magic?
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There has been plenty of occasions where Bucky has used mind control and it was harmony magic.
Like in the Chance when he blanked out Mignon's memory of what was behind the door.
I had to stop 113 chapters in. Let me know when you release The Chase: Abridged.
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This is the abridged version. The original drafts had the story start when Bucky was packed away on a train and sent to Celestia's school.
6004867 Well by the look of the daily updates i think that it'll be too long to finish once i get the urge to read it again.=
...he's seen eniugh hentai.
If the smell can make Sentie's nose crinkle, ya know the guy that eats carrion for funsies, it must REALLY reek down there.
6004858 .that i did not remember...... even still i am having some trouble understanding that even now. hear harmony magic, think of what the elements of harmony does, just wired in my head to think it is something more like Dark magic, an alternate and powerful form of magic. not something mundane.
though...... not sure if head canon or not. if dark magic feeds on negativity, wouldn't the mirror walker's magic already be naturally tainted by dark magic? their actions are so filled with malicious intent that it seems like it would just be how it is. like how everything discord does in tinged with chaos and so on.
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Obedience spells. Like the one Discord ate. Harmony magic. Luna and her magic, harmonious.
The mirror travelers are about order. The worst sort of order.
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Oh pish posh! 1.7 million words ain't nothing but a thang !
6004848 oh, Chrysalis is going to love that. I'm sure she won't take advantage of that at all...
Why didn't they use the spider or flyer bots? Searching miles of tunnels for days on end is the job of golems (robots). With enough you could run a screen so whatever it was would be flushed out, or when a golem was attacked the team would know the position. An army of automations would be super useful compared to a handful of foal sized Warriors. At least in searching a city worth of sewers.
6004970 that is what i mean though. when i hear 'harmony magic' i am imagining things like discord being bitch slapped by a rainbow. not something as common as some generic brand bleach.
although i would presume that the reformation spell is not that impactful a magic if it is something she just has lying around in her library. her public library mind you, where public ponies can come in from the public and rent books from said public library and temporarily take them into the public.
if it is something that can be left in a public library, it is something that is unlikely to be so easily used by a public pony to cause serious harm to other public ponies..........
i have officially used public more than i have ever in my entire life.
Good suspenseful buildup thus far. Heck, the monster even ate all the typos, as far as I can see. Definitely looking forward to more.
What is truly down in the sewers.
I'm guessing an Otyugh
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Warriors gotta learn somehow.
6004777 Two words for you: World War II rocket scientists...
...
One, two, three...yeah, I´m not a rocket scientist when it comes tou counting...but i disgress...
ALL, and I really mean it, ALL jet and rocket tecnology, from planes to satelittes rocket launchers we have today came from destsch scientist from the World War II. Booth the allies (USA specially) and the Russians started to get as many deutsch rocket scientists when the war ended and the looting started. Booth USA and Russia have no rocket and jet propulsion tecnology at that time, and everything developed from that point was based on those scientists work. Sure, neither USA nor Russia nedeed to torture those scientists....
...right ?
...but, anyhow, they were the source of all the tech we have today. VERY similar to the mirror travelers way.
I don´t like the term "mirror walkers". It sounds painfull.
...I digress again...
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Because having a spell that wipes a memory or a spell that creates slavish obedience would never be abused. Ever.
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Nazi rocket scientists faced being charged with war crimes because of the V2 rocket program.
We hung so many Germans.
Except for those that sold themselves out to us. We gave them houses in the suburbs and we sheltered men that did horrendous things. Including Nazi officers just because they had information that we needed.
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I understand that the Raptors need experience, and they are the right size for the job. But they were tasked with an impossible mission. Searching the sewers as they had planned would have been like looking for a fugitive in the city by going door to door. I'm guessing all the police work was done, the most likely locations were identified, and the Raptors were sent in to investigate. But from the way it sounded it seemed like Sentinel was going to randomly wonder the sewers looking for clues. This is both extremely dangerous and inefficient.
Maybe its just me but why isn't a Blackcloak on this mission? The possibility of cult involvement should warrant a mage presences. I mean missing foals, strange tentacled creature, also a mage with scrying ability would have greatly improved search success. At the very least an observer on hand just in case.
6004848 This makes me wonder that, maybe, just maybe, the disguise skill changeling have is something that was "implanted" in then later.
Wich makes sense in your verse, were you hint that changelings are normal ponies cursed, or poisoned, or something alike, to make what they are today.
Thus, being exposed to that kind of magic DOES NOT turn you in a changeling, but gives you one or more of their skills (form changing, emotions feeding/feeling, empathic/telepathic skills).
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Not everything has played itself out just yet...
The Raptors have a secret weapon that they don't know about just yet. If I say more, there will be spoilers.
6005605 Remember the hurricane arc ? In the end, when Bucky talks to Celestia and says that "he understand why she did not interfere so much with the world affairs, even if she have the power to do...so we can learn and rise as a species" ?
This is Sentinel being trained to leadership. Yes, he is too young, but times of need and all that.
Suddenly I have a whole new respect for Lex Luthor as a villain. Not only a villain that envy Superman...he is actually, at some point, right ! Superman is really halting humankind development !!
Sure, at this point we all know that humakind would go nowhere as it is, and Superman´s example of kindness and heroism maybe better then letting us kill ourselves...maybe Lex is more optimistic towards humaking future then Superman is.
I should be working now...yeah, I should...
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You can learn how to create nuclear fusion at your local library. Also Twilight happened to have the want it need it spell laying around. Why would a spell that converted minds to the peaceful way of life accepted by society, be considered harmful in any way? If you are already harmonious it would not work.
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But that's my problem, they aren't learning. Old tactics, old weapons, old fighting styles, the Raptors were suppose to be on the cutting edge of development. In modern Law enforcement we use drones in situations like this. Its more efficient, its safer and it has a higher chance of successfully catching the culprit. I'm not saying that Bucky should be there, I'm not saying the blackcloaks should run the show. But better tactics should have been used. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe no one has even thought of this kind of thing. But they have the capability, and they shouldn't be so reliant on brute force, they suppose to be soldiers of the future after all.
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Wait... wait wait wait... you are working with an incomplete data set.
Making any sort of judgment at this point is faulty.
6005657 First of all, your point is valid. By no means I think you´re being a nip tick. This is a very healthy discussion.
As healthy as a discussion ´bout combat tactics using pastel colored magic talking ponies can be.
I disgress...
Let´s stabilish, from start, that the old world, the whole old Equestria, is dead. Every aspect is rotten and useless. From the social structure, to the very concept of marriage, even the militar command chains are rotten. Everything useless and corrupted, in one way or another. The whole world is looking for new ways. More harmonic, friendly and efficient ways. In every aspect ot hte life, even the militar life.
So, we need new leaders. And how we train new leaders ? Easy, put then through boot camp with the already know and good old training grounds and train method....OH NONONONO, SCRATCH THAT ! We want NEW ways ! New leaders ! New visions ! So we need new training methods and tactics...
...that does not exist still !!
I remember a GREAT book, the biography of the first pilot to fly over mach 1. For the love of me, I can´t remember his name...sorry. Well, when they started the "X" program (the jet planes are called X-1, X-2 and so on) there were NO knowledge ´bout supersonic flight. That simple. All they knew was, when piston-engine fighters dived, and started to get remotly close to supersonic speed, two things happened: either the fighter became almost impossible to control, and they could come out of the dive alive out of a mix of luck and skill, or the fighter exploded. So, so far, supersonic speed=death.
Nice start for a supersonic fighter program. Here, have this jet plane. It can reach supersonic speed wich, as far as we know, kills. Good luck !!!
Anyway, in the book they detailed the process to develop all the supersonic flight tecnology nedded not only to reach mach 1 but, after that, mach 2, mach 3 and, from that point, turning a higly experimental tecnology in a militar and even civil common tecnology.
So, in a decade, given or taken, we went from supersonic flight kills to supersonic flight being used in militar combat. But they had to test, try and fail, and kill a LOT of good pilots to reach that point.
I pesent you Sentinel. Our prototype of the new era leader and combat specialist, battle tested (and failed sometimes...where do you think he gets all those scars ?) and responsible for the development of a lot of new training methods and combat standards.
You main source of complaining is coming from the fact that he gots very little combat training. Actually he got as much combat training posible, considering that such training is outdated...he gots umbrakinesis training, a lot of command and battle theory from his father and...well, that´s pretty much what works in a new era, everything else is outdated and corrupt. Sorry, Sentinel, it´s up to you to develop all the new combat training we´ll use from now on.
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AND SOMEBODY GETS IT!
**Goes giddy**
Somebody understands the underlying motivation on what is being done with Sentinel.
6005691
Also...
Chuck Yeager.
6005716 ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH, yes, Charles E. "Chuck" Yeager, thanks the godess, it was killing me trying to remember his name !!!
kudzu: You could google it....
Yyyyyyeah...right, there is that.
Anyway, curious fact: Charles ancestrals were deutschlands, and Yeager is an adaptation from "Jeager", wich means "hunter", their original second name.
And this add absolutly nothing to the discussion.
YAY, KING OF THE DISGRESS !!!!!
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OK, granted. Not enough data exists. But my point is the mission parameters were search and destroy. Without proper Intel the such aspect is impossible. Just as the likelihood of the creature grabbing Loki from a random storm drain is remote, searching one tunnel at a time relies heavily on pure chance. The longer they are down their the higher the risk of injury or potential weather hazard. If it began to rain they would have no warning to a potential flash flood event.
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It's one thing to trial by fire, it's an entirely different thing to raise ones expectations of success. If Sentinel gets tossed into the meat grinder and comes out every time eventually he's going to feel he can handle anything, and then on day he's going to charge when he should retreat and get everyone killed.
Hm... About the 'racist' ponies toward Sentinel... I wonder if it's actually very fair to blame them for anything beyond unintentional ignorance.
Firstoff, the Myrmidons (and the Lunar Court, and the newly minted Shadowbolts, if they ever 'go public') are all encouraged by Luna to play up the fear factor to others. It wouldn't be inconceivable to believe that Luna would send a creature that preys on ponies just because to solve a deadly problem, given what she trys to make public.
Secondoff, monsters that are parasites that have to prey on living creatures are actual things that exist in this universe (like, apparently, the Changelings, and demons and such) so it's actually not an unreasonable worry.
I realize it's not good for Sentinel either way, but if there's no reliable information, and when even the princess in charge of them encourages the view, it's not exactly an unreasonable view to have.
6005743 He already learned the value of a good strategic retreat. Remember the Winter Games ? Strategic retreat and diplomatic solution. The little guy knows how to think outside the box.
Also, in such situation, there is NO GOOD plan to grab the tentacle thing. Nothing is efficient since is a new type of threat. All you can do is go and try something. May work, may not, if not, retreat and think in something else. Either way, whetever they try, it WILL be dangerous.
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Which is the same shit Celestia pulled on Bucky. For ages that has been the business model. Toss Ponies to their doom if they come out the other side they are destined for greatness if not... Oh well send his family a fruit baskets and get us another chosen one.