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Okay... I was mistaken. You've turned Flash into kind of an asshole. I wonder what Twi will say to him.
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Wait, what?
Rainbow Dash picked a fight... and Flash is an asshole? He used wings slaps multiple times to discourage her, while Rainbow threw punches, and Flash is somehow in the wrong?
Mind explaining? <--- somehow an appropriate face for this conversation.
Ah, the drunk girl spiral. Tis a most magical thing.
5145358 There's drink involved for starters. And most likely in Rainbow's mind, he's with Twilight, so he shouldn't be watching Coco and Rarity. I'm not saying she's in the right either.
Also, the line about being 'owed respect'... in my eyes, that would lower my respect for him. It takes a bigger person, or pony in this case, to just walk away.
But I also expect Twi to wing slap him a couple of times as well.
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Pegasi + martial culture = respect enforced by dueling.
Foreshadowing even included earlier in chapter.
Flash acted entirely appropriately given the situation.
5145398 I did not know Flash was a 'Cornet', nor what that actually is. I've gotten used to you putting in words I do not know that I've stopped looking them up thinking they are a mistake, like so many of us did for 'snoot'.
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Flash isn't a Cornet, but he is an officer. Officer's training manual is what Sentinel was reading.
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Rainbow says that a pony should be loyal to their partner. She is the ELEMENT of LOYALTY. She feels that being in a relationship requires that you at least consult your partner before saying "That other person is sexy," something which (to her mind) implies "I want to have sex outside my relationship." That the target of her assault is a pony in a relationship with one of her best friends as well as somepony who may take said friend away--element of loyalty--does color her view emotionally, but to her mind she is defending her flock.
Flash Sentry replies "Stop being so stereotypical," completely ignoring the original argument and also making a personal attack. Furthermore, telling people that being themselves devalues their social group is in fact a form of peer pressure. Stereotypes are bad, yes. But Rainbow Dash is a braggart, a boaster, and an uncultured brawler unconnected to the stereotype. She is fully accepting of nonstereotypical pegasi--Fluttershy--and is not a complete stereotype herself, as she enjoys reading. Furthermore, the bully tag is something that is either false now or a fault she recognizes and tries to overcome--again, her treatment of Fluttershy and more importantly her acts in Hurricane Fluttershy.
What we're left with is a soldier dating a princess making a (perceived) casual pass at not one, but two mares without the princess knowing, the princess's best friend calling him out on it, and then said soldier very deliberately ripping apart and insulting the mare to the point of provocation with the end result of beating her up. Basically, Rainbow said "I think that's wrong," and Flash replied, "I think you as a person are wrong." Perhaps that was not the intent of either side, but that is what was communicated.
5145414 See, when I looked, I got pages offering me musical instruments, which is why I stopped looking.
Anyway, let's take the more important thing from this chapter;
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There were several others, but I don't want to get banned.
I supposed I should also go to sleep, as it's 0336 where I am!
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(I was playing devil's advocate. Had somepony complained about Dashie first, i would have presented a different argument)
You bring up good points sir.
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- How tawdry!
Oh by Celestia's gloriously fattened flanks, I LOVE COCARITY!! You have no idea how hard I ship those two. And Poor Dashie...an unrequited lesbian love. Or is it? Twi just doesn't strike me as being bisexual. roundstable.com/forums/images/smilies/saddash.png
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Twilight is sapiosexual. She is turned on by intelligence and gender isn't a huge factor for her. Except that she doesn't know that she is a sapiosexual.
She just knows that she gets turned on when she reads Flash's letters or has to give Rainbow Dash lessons about something.
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I'm... not sure who I instinctively side with on this one. Flash is a bit out of line and escalates things with verbal threats and insulting her by telling her she's in the wrong, and is kind of... well had an out of line comment that would doubly insult Dash due to her feelings toward Twilight. But Dash has already expressed this... head honcho attitude, as if she's the one in charge. But on the other hand... how could she not have the right to judge someone for making an off color comment that seemed insulting to not one, but two of her friends?
Is it because she's "just" a pegasus? Would it be okay if she had a horn too, giving her some kind of sacrosanct social judgement powers? Is that how pegasus social structures work? Once someone is put "at the top" they are able to judge as much as they want, but if you're not you can't judge anyone at all? Is Flash referring to Twilight's princesshood when he says "just because you're Twilight's friend" or is it some other kind of other more normal "we are both friends to her (in shockingly similar situations, actually) but that doesn't mean you have a right to judge me."
I wanna like Flash, but I guess I side with Dash on this one. Not too strongly.
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They're both wrong.
Dash was wrong for slugging Flash, and Flash was wrong for initiating a duel.
Dashie came so close to telling Twilight she loved her too... Even got half of the word out. But only half.
What you witnessed was a pegasus mating display. Two potential mates squared off to impress the pegasus they both desired.
Pegasi are brutes. And jerks.
...in pegusi culture, according to your universe, flash sentery is in the right. However, I do not know how Rainbow being drunk factors into this nor do I think that his actions were the correct hoice in how to handle Rainbows disrespect.
He should've started with a clear statement that she was not to command him.
Seems that Flash take REAL combat training after all...and here we have a fine example why i don´t drink. So things don´t get out of control.
Not that, with two hiper-active children my life is exactly the ultimate control example, but i try no to make things worse at least.
In a mmore related note, you said that the GDA would be dark. I hope they make it alive through the party, since it seems the gryphons won´t need to kill then, since they´re doing a fine job killing thenselves...
i think that should be tail
............ kinda hard to believe flash got the better of her. less me hating flash, which i actually don't, but we are talking about a guy trained to fight vs someone who has experienced more fights and has a steep combat advantage in terms of speed.
other than that i do feel that rainbow dash needs to be given a break there. though i kinda blame Luna for some reason. not sure why.
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As said in the story, Flash is a communications officer. He's a messenger. During the war, he delivered messages from the Crystal Empire to Celestia and the others and had a lot of people who tried to kill the messenger to screw with Celestia's communications.
So he's had a lot of things to to kill him. He's a hard case, as evidenced by the fact that he is still alive.
5145439 Mayber the real theme of this chapter is how everything changed so much (and, at the same time, not at all) that nothing makes sense anymore ! None knows how to act. Flash made a bad taste comment, but nothing too harsh, and Rainbow overreacted, and Flash over-overreacted and so on...
Suyrprisingly, seems that Rarity is more open to change perspective (even with some gin help) then RD ! I have the feeling that, for working alongside with Twilie, she (RD) is, more or less, secure on nice cage. Rarity, for all of her problems, is down here, watching, feeling, sniffing, tasting everything changing, with her work in organization. She just nedeed a push (and gin, never forget gin) to cross the edge.
Maybe, i´m really in a looongshot here.
Those last two chapters were very confused to me. While Bucky´s herd have everything sorted out already (sure, after a lot of talk and interaction through The Isles Ark) the rest of the world (represented by the mane 6) is just a social mess. Now everyone understand the power of the herd...but none knows how ity works ! Even Bucky´s herd is sorting some details still (Ripple/Bittersweet problem, for example, Sentinel/Diamond tiara too).
The more i think, more i have the feeling that this is a bigger turning point for Equestria then i though. Maybe Celestia knew it and, even though it was dangerous, decided to rise the chance and push the change through thew mane 6 in this trip ?
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You touch on some good points and some valid points.
Rarity touched on Coco's points. And I'd imagine there were some things on Coco that got pointy.
Twilight, at some point, is going to have to listen to a Pinkie Pie song.
Hopefully, Pinkie's singing wont cause another fight between Flash and Dash.
Jesus fucking Christ, FINALLY someone puts her in her place.
She's been a complete shit this entire story, it's about time.
He does it in a damn good fashion, too. Everything he does makes it clear that while his entire intent is to correct her poor behaviour, there's just some shit he won't put up with.
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Somebody remembers Dash thumping poor Thunderlane into submission.
5145638 messengers survive by escape, not by combat. though admtiably he had to have fought quite a few time i suppose. though i would presume so did rainbow dash.
other than that rainbow dash being inebriated probably is a large factor to her loss. she couldn't use her speed right effectively and it is obvious flash was not even half as drunk. if she could have used her speed, well........ she would probably be in even more trouble actually for beating the hell out of flash like that.
maybe i am seeing things here but i have a feeling that luna does actually have some blame here. she sent a blow at rainbow dash's security and had a destructive result, making rainbow dash more insecure. her behavior here does show her lacking confidence in herself and overreacting to twilight's anger as well.
twilight will probably calm down, though not likely just forgive her, yet rainbow believes their friendship is ruined.
5145711 Exactly what I was thinking of. "How DARE you not insert yourself into a situation you had no chance of controlling and not risk severe bodily harm!"
That's something she's been doing all fic, too. She uses her hooves, which is, in Pegasus, a demonstration of her thinking that she's above him, better than him.
It doesn't show the care that pegasi are supposed to have for their flockmates, and sets her up as a self important bully.
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That is actually a very interesting analysis. And very good observation on your part.
Dashie is feeling insecure for all kinds of reasons
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Yeah. You don't use hooves, but wings. This is important.
Okay, let's set up a timeline
Rarity and Coco Pommel have one too much to drink and drunkenly make out in public.
Flash watches the two, like a guy normally would.
Rainbow Dash reacts by attacking him.
He defends himself without injuring her. He also warns her if she keeps it up, he would hurt her.
She ignores him and gets hurt
The culprit at the end of the night: Alcohol. Twilight should talk to Rarity and Coco as well, not just Dash and Flash.
5145780 forgot the part where he smacked her with his wing first.
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Included in the fourth part. And that hurt him just as much her, if not more. Remember Celestia giving Bucky a bunch of wing slaps?
Still. Alcohol makes people, and ponies, do stupid things, whether they're drinking or not. Dash is obviously jealous that Twilight is seeing him and her jealousy turned into anger when she caught him watching the alcohol-fueled show. She wants to express her feelings for Twilight, but can't bring herself to do so for some reason. Possibly fear of rejection.
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And this all goes back to Cheerilee in the beginning, and the slap that started it all.
I think Rainbow has a crush on Twi(who has not noticed yet) and saw Flash(who is in a position Dash really would like to be in) checking out other mares(I guess.) Alcohol and jealousy don't mix very well.
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Now is a good time to reread chapter three. Because it sums up what took place here.
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I'll do that in the morning. It's time for me to go to bed.
I know Flash is technically in the right, but he still comes off as a pompous asshole. Just my 10 cents.
5145780 you missed one. Before Rarity and Coco Pommel kiss, Derpy got them to drink. So it's Derpy’s fault...
Gonna go hide now.
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- I like to watch mares make out just as much as my husband.
5146005 but it caused a fight D: of course you couldn't have known that though, so I hope that if you realize your hand in it, you don't feel too bad about the whole thing.
*Have a Flash Sentry and Rainbow Dash interaction.*
*Most hated character puts most loved into their place when we haven't seen context for loved character acting cruel yet.*
You glorious troll.
Well now I feel encouraged. Time to make a Flash Sentry one shot.
Go Flash!
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Um, read comments. She's done plenty.
5145686 Wasn't Dash being like that because she likes Twilight? I thought that she was jealous.
5145845 Several times in the story they hint at that. So I agree. Based on evidence. That I'm too lazy to find.
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That's part of it.
5145767 See, it's about 2 am, and I just had to dig my phone out to comment because I realized something.
Rainbow is Twilight's primary source for learning what is to be a Pegasus.
Look at how Twilight slapped Cellybeans after Fillydelphia.
She's teaching her wrong. She's taught her to hit to punish, not to correct.
5146244 I thought so.
Could Spike develop a crush on Dinky and/or Pina?
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OH FUCK SOMEBODY NOTICED! OH JESUS HERALD CHRIST IN A SIDECAR! HOLY SHITBALLS BATMAN! FUCK ME GENTLY WITH A RUSTY CHAINSAW!
Oh, oh dear.