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Derpy will continue to have slow but steady growth... going home is going to be a very trying experience for her.
I did not finished the reading yet, but this is too good to wait:
And, in that very moment, Bucky became The Alicorn of Virginity, and no colt even get close of his fillies. EVER !!!!!
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Nightmare Chastity.
Is it bad that I would be terrified of a woman like that and feel extremely turned on and fortunate to have her? Because, gahtdayum that was lovely.
Did not finished yet and, again, another good one...
Sour Mash used Pillow Drive. It´s super effective !!!!!
Btw, poor Dead...i really understand the poor guy´s point of view.
That mare has just signaled the doom of all the stallions on the Shetland Islands. Mares will be beating stallions into paste in order to marry them.
Also, I had assumed Deadspin would cause real trouble by trying to lead a squad of Pegasi to attack the Hydra's teeth without permission or even help the nobles stage a coup de' tat to keep the Status Quo as it has been. I have been proven both painfully and pleasantly wrong.
I won´t get to the end of this today, it seems:
And so, the first gay (male) pegasus appeared in the isles.
It was a safer option, in his (her ?) own words
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He didn't want to get beaten down into the dirt. He had just seen his commander get his ass handed to him.
Also...
I am shocked that you haven't commented on that.
4880325 Hey, i want to finish this today, if i comment on everything that deserves (wich is pretty much all the whole chapter) this would take forever !!!
I can see years later deadspin will say to his foals. And that is how I met your mother. XD lolol
Really awesome chapter and those poor stallions better watch out now and luna have mercy for the colt that dinky and piña capture xD
BUCKING YES !!!! FINALLY, 800 UPVOTES....A WHOLE CHPATER WENT OUT WITHOUT ONE UPVOTE !!!!
Now, to the 900 and, then....OVER NIN....nope, just one thousand is good enough...i don´t want to spoil kudzu too much...
Marriage by combat... Hell yeah
Equality! Which means I am better than you! Because that's what equality means, I am better!
And a relationship based in humiliation (and physical wounds) for the male is a good one, apparently. If he's being overprotective and condescending, the solution is to beat the shit out of him and insult him in front of everyone, then use it as leverage to force him to marry her! It's okay, he is magically okay with her beating the shit out of him now! There is pretty much no way this would be considered okay if a stallion beat the hell out of a mare, then she suddenly respected him for it. In fact, that basic idea is how the isles usually worked (which was considered reprehensible), except without the magical "now I'm fine with it" at the end.
4880436 You know that this takes place in a very HARSH place (The Isles) where missing body parts is as commom as breathing and, thus, the beat was not that bad (nobody lost anything) for the Isles standards.
Take on account, too, that, so far, mares aren´t any better then livestock, and, so, the mares want to prove thenselves worth by all and any means.
Also, you DO have a point, and Keg Smasher already noted that...
Wow... I kind of wanted to shout at Sour, Mare equality does not mean you can beat stallions into marriage! But half way through I swear I saw Deadspin had a bit of a stify. Damn I'm 100% with Keg here, earth ponies will be the death of us all.
Welp, this gives 'i'll buck you into the ground' quite literal meaning.
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The problem isn't that he was proven wrong with violence. That is at least reasonable enough, believable that he wouldn't be able to accept it unless he was forced to physically (Also a pegasus thing too) and believable that she would be belligerent in this way. The problem is that it then morphed into "this is fine for a marriage!" It's not.
Keg and Sparkler both say violence against stallions isn't cool, nor is forcing him into marriage. But then Deadspin says "no go ahead" and there is no real contempt held for this decision. Just look at the other comments:
"Marriage by combat... Hell yeah"
"Really awesome chapter and those poor stallions better watch out now and luna have mercy for the colt that dinky and piña capture xD"
In the reversed circumstance this would be completely vilified, but this circumstance is considered a joke.
4880500 And, again, i have to praise kudzu. During the whole story i had this feeling that Earth Ponies are Overpowered. They can´t fly, they can´t use magic, but they are as hard as a tank to kill, can make paste from your bones just from shagging, and had no mental issues.
It was okay for me, as i already said, this story is AMAZING, but not perfect. Nothing is perfect, Celestia dammit ! But it´s so incredible, i just let this thing pass. Booth unicorns and pegasus does not work at full potential without a earth pony to balance then, while earth ponies can be let alone and live pretty okay.
Now Keg points that, yes, earth ponies need they counterparts too, otherwise it´ll be all Conan-style society over again ! They need the mother/father insticits of the pegasus, and the more refinated aspects of the unicorns to further develop.
By the way, only worth Conan is Arnold, don´t come with that crap make-up hawaian thing new Conan that it´s not worth a Soul Marsh in battle !
Frak, kudzu, your story is not perfect, but finding fails is getting increasingly difficult !!!!
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I think you misunderstand, she is equal, shes acting like a Stallion. Most likely her father. Its the way things have been for generations, you don't simply change that over night. Her aditude here is simple if we are equal, and I am stronger than you then I deserve to fight to protect you. Shes a soldier, fighting like any other soldier would to prove their strength. The added element of "The Chase" here is just to showcase how things are changing. Instead of a chase though she must prove her superiority of strength. He sees this as her chasing him (as hes a Pegasus) and is enamored by her ability to Catch him. The physical part and the humiliation is only the result of the context, there in military training such talk and actions are expected.
The expression is "toe the line," which may be an odd idiom for ponies. After all, the hoof is just one enormous toe.
In any case, recalibration is in progress, which means there's going to be some overcompensation as society finds a new equilibrium. I really hope someone can establish that beating one's spouse to a pulp is not going to be an acceptable form of courtship. They need as many healthy bodies as they can get, reproductive anatomy regardless.
Looking forward to more.
4880532 but it's not in reverse.
my comment was short (from phone... don't blame me) but the idea is still the same
the mares had gone from a livestock to equal's in a flash, this is not something that can be done normally, look at any woman integration to men society in the past. here there was no time to develop, give rights... they took them by force, WE ARE MARES AND WE ARE YOUR EQUALS, this was followed by a stallion talking a mare out of it, saying more or less stay in the house and raise foals. she did it in the best and fastest way. proven him she is a pony above being a mare and can stand her ground next to him.
was this harsh? violent? hell yeah... fast changes come with a lot of pain
in the end he took her as his own due to her proving him he was wrong
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Actually, I think he was probably like... Damn, this made is hot, and strong, and she won't take any shit and damn. And then at the end there when Keg Smasher was asking about whether or not to flog Sour, Deadspin did say, and I quote,
So I think that at this point, he's fallen for her, if not in love, then at least in like/lust.
Bwahahahahahahahaha... you fight like old ponies shag!!!!
4880564 Maybe "Hoof the Line" would be better?
Anyhoo...great chapter! All marriages should start this way!
Seems awfully extreme and one - sided to me. Now, the stage is set for the reversal of roles in regard to spousal abuse. Now mares can pummel the stuffing out of stallions with impunity. There has been no progress made here. None. Instead of being named as equals now mares are the stronger sex. True equality would be if the fight had ended in a draw. Our stallion unquestionably was in the wrong for his sexist attitude, but that mare was just acting like a bellicose bitch. Both were wrong and neither really won.
8/10/2014 Featured Again!
You know, at first I thought he was gay. Then I realised Deadspin is me!
that the insubordinate mare had
place is in the homestead, perhaps?
...I do NOT ever want to visit the isles. I hear Saddle Arabia is nice this time of year.
Refractive force amplification? Is Bucky making a set of Mjolnir armour, but so that the force amplification is reflected? Damn, that's awesome!
That was horrible. Simple as that.
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I can't disagree that it at least makes some psychological sense, from the characters' involved perspective.
Except, while humiliation is common in military traning, and so is being banged up a bit for your foolishness or by failure, breaking the ribs of someone because they were rude to you during training is a different beast altogether. He was supposed to be training them to be soldiers, which involves a lot more discipline and teamwork than beating the shit out of your father for maiming someone does. There is more to being a soldier than being capable of violence, elsewise every violent criminal would be the ideal soldier. But now he can't train them, broken ribs are not conducive to the physical activity you need to be a drill sergeant.
I suppose, then, I jumped the gun by focusing on the humiliation he had and not focusing on the "you said something bad about me, that means I can break your ribs" factor.
And, ultimately, you're right. She IS acting like a stallion, and her father. But the difference is, when he was trying to force a her mother to obey him by hurting her is a villain, deserving reprisal and loathing from those mares. Sour trying to force Deadspin to obey her (remember, in this case he was not actually preventing her from doing anything. He was just unhappy with it and disrespectful of her, and would probably have been proven wrong as soon as they were badass anyway) by hurting him (in a more than bruised capacity too, and she was entirely aware of what she was doing. she wasn't lashing out recklessly and hurt him more than she intended to) is the good guy, deserving of respect and love from that stallion.
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Brevity wasn't a problem. Don't worry about that.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "it isn't reversed." I'm saying, that if a stallion beat a mare in order to make her his wife, and she morphed into "I love you!" the general consensus would be "what an awful relationship." Not what is happening now, where the aggressor is getting a high degree of support. In fact, the situation very nearly exists like that in this story, in the mares that would chase down new mares to help force them to obey their husbands. They are vilified, and this mare is doing the same thing but because the violence is flowing to a male, instead of a female, this is celebrated.
I get the feeling the "fast changes" is going to involve lots of stallions getting hurt like this, and everyone collectively looking the other way or them saying "no, no it's okay, I'm allowed to get my ribs broken, I'm a shit awful person who held the wrong beliefs, even if I was reasonable about them, so I deserve it."
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He definitely fell for her on some level, and the characters are allowed to be as dysfunctional as they want to, I suppose. But the overwhelming support she gets for hurting him, and it's totally okay because he decided she's okay at the end, is irksome! It's how long-term abusive relationships start. If he does manage to defend himself during the relationship, I suppose it could approach a violent but egalitarian relationship, though.
Don't overdo the power behind a buck, Bucky, don't want to carve canyons.
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I agree she went too far, But I think there are factors here that our human western culture see as deplorable but in terms of this society is stuck somewhere between the old and the new. Her display of Power is two fold, one: show that mares are every bit as powerful as stallions. The mentality here is she cannot hold back or she (and all mares she is representing) will be seen as weak. Two: Show how serious she is with regard to marrying him. She didn't realize she had broken his rib until it had already been broken, if she had relented because of that he could have used that as a sign of weakness, or turn it on her.
I believe that this was an example of Chase behavior. Had Deadspin surrendered, refused to fight her, let her win, her gambit would have failed. She would have been punished and both would have lost. But some new social rules do not change evolutionary mating behavior. Her pursuit of him was a risk, pushing boundaries of what is acceptable. And I think every one was in agreement, It was an interesting result, but lets not do this again. I'm sure Keg will put the an end to any future attempts of mare matrimonial brutality.
4881096 I doubt Keg will do anything about this. He never forced stallions to treat mares reasonably, when he had the authority to execute anyone he wanted at any time.
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That was before Bucky, when Bucky came things started changing. The turning point was Loch Skimmer and Ripple's Father. When he was whipped for beating his daughter Keg declared that NO more of the old ways. By right Keg could have had Sour Mash whipped for disobeying the new Law. But Deadspin being the old fashioned pony that he was could not let his honor be tossed aside.
4881179 But Keg still had the authority and he had even previously used it. He told Bucky that when he took over as Laird that he killed the previous Laird and all the nobles. Keg had the capability and never utilized it except when it affected him.
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And all that would have accomplished is getting Keg assassinated by disgruntled ponies who on to of fearing for their life on a daily basis now had to contend with a tyrant who forbade the normal practice of buy mares to mother your children, or selling your daughters so you can feed the rest of your family through the lean months. Keg is a smart ruler, you cant just do away with an economic system without something to replace it. The reason things were they way they were was because the state of things. Because of the purges, the wolves, and poor farming conditions, Growth was stunted. The desperation caused the conditions to develop the way they did, ponies needed to have foals at a younger and younger age, due to a majority of stallions being called to fight and many never returning, male to female ratio became wider forcing the need for herds.
The problem is the more desperate a population gets to maintain growth we see it become a priority for society. We see that more and more pressure is put on females to produce babies. Many societies handle this in differently. Its a survival mechanism. Survival by any means.
Going back to Keg, this survival mechanism. Using mares as trade goods was what worked at the time. It was generally accepted by a majority as a necessary evil. If Keg were to change this with no solution to the problem it would be like dooming the island to extinction. No one would back him, his men would desert, and ultimately some crueler laird would take over. The War Changed all that. It was why he was made all these plans with Celestia. Thistle was merely a pawn in the scheme. The true goal was economic and social reform.
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Somepony is a clever pony.
So a soldier trained in combat gets easily destroyed by a FLIGHTLESS mare. Sure she's stronger, but he's smarter and not controlled by cockiness and rage, and yet she beats him.
Every fic involving societal issues and politics that I've ever read always has some sort of misandry put into it, making males out to be weak, useless sperm-sacks. It's cliche, nonsensical, and she still got away with it. Seriously?
Do you know why women aren't allowed into the infantry in the United States? No; It's not because women are weak. It's for the men's sakes. Think of the absolute psychological trauma that a man would go through seeing a woman die by his side. He'd never be able to fight again. The stallion was right: we have a protective urge around women and it's not men's fault.
This chapter was awful.
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It was supposed to be awful. And bring out both sides of the issue.
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This brings up a good point. Men are the weaker sex in terms of mental strength. Why not reverse roles, let woman fight and have the men run around in the background. In today's military our physical strength is not as necessary as it once was. Strength of arms has given way to agility and endurance, both of which Woman excel at. Woman have higher pain tolerance,
This is the problem with stereotyping, for everyone who view it one way there are others who view it the other. Dead made the fatal mistake of not taking her serious from the get go. Had he he may have prevailed. Also had he used his wings it was hinted that the Pegasus mares would have come to her aid in grounding him. I don't find this unrealistic that an earth pony would be stronger than a Pegasus. The problem is he let her grab a hold of him thus ending any advantage he might have. At that point it came down to a contest of her power vs. his Skill. In the end he held back and he lost.
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There is also the fact that the mares have had something of a fight club going on for quite some time.
I want you to buck me as hard as you can...
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Somehow my sick mind went into the gutter.
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The gutter would be step up for me.
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Ahhhh Soooo true
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A new chapter is incoming soonish.
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squee
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Where did you get that from 0_o
It may be true for the majority idk
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Are you kidding me? As far as combat situations and physical prowess are concerned, whether it be strength or agility, the males of every single mammalian species are superior. I'm not saying that women can't fight, but the average man will beat the average woman every single time. And men are the weaker sex mentally? I think that almost every single scientific, cultural and technological bit of progress made in the the course of human history would beg to differ. Since the women's lib movement, females have proven that they are every bit man's intellectual equal, but saying that they are superior is just as ignorant as saying it the other way around.
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Women show more activity in brain scans in areas that are believed to be the locations that determine things like willpower and determination.
Women's brains are actually more primitive than men's brains, and because of this, are more efficient. They are on average 10% smaller, but show as much as 40% more activity in brain scans.
Women are far more suited to violence and the recovery from violence than men are. Keep in mind, psychologically speaking, childbirth is a form of violence... mental trauma.
I learned this in my advanced psyche classes, so please don't kill me.
4881641 AAAAAAAAAH
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You did advanced physiology??? That explains why you are so good at being evil xD
*willpower and determination? I must be more feminine than I thought!*
Question oh great and powerful one, does being subject to mental trauma effectively build up your willpower? Or is it genetic/gender dependent?