How far will one stallion run to escape what pursues him?
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Honestly? They did the right thing. Babs didn't deserve to have to live with that knowledge. Lies exist for a reason; they are like weapons. A responsible lie can save many lives, and a great deal of happiness.
One day, this will come back to bite them in the ass when Babs, if she does indeed become sterile, wants to find out why she can't have foals.
Then she'll want revenge upon this stallion, as well as refusing to acknowledge the ones who lied to her.
The reality of the grey area.
Congrats on a million words.
Very well done. I really can't say more than that.
Sometimes a lie is better than the truth. This is one of those things. Letting her live the lie gives her a chance at being happy. Living the Truth almost guarantees she will always suffer from what has happened. Granted, the lie has the possibility of leaving her unable to be a mother in the future and wanting to know why when it happens, but with the knowledge of the surgeries they have that to explain it. Living the Truth she wouldn't care either way, she would have that problem anyway while still being left broken.
Some things are better left forgotten by those they happened to. Luna is the one that can make that happen.
Also, it said it was only a possibility she would be left sterile. There is still a chance she can still have children. Especially if there ever comes a beneficial alliance between Equestria and the Changelings with their healing drones, or even Tourmaline learning how to use her abilities to the fullest.
I'm going to go with the plain... 'Cause Magic' bit here, but pesky memories that Psychologists use Hypnotism to bury deep in the subconscious, or attempt to make new memories to cover, and believe me there is a practice where they do this, normally ends up falling flat. It takes multiple sessions in order to keep the lie alive.
I'll strongly, and I mean strongly, disagree about the altering of memories. It typically does more harm than good, but I do see the sense in what they've done here. I see the sense in it and I see the reason for it.
Still... I have the feeling that those memories aren't 'gone' as much as they are locked away.
So... is what Bucky has done really immoral vs what Luna did?
Both are a similar act. What sets them apart? What makes one okay while the other somehow remains wrong?
Even Applejack stumbled into the morass there for a moment.
What is ethical about this situation?
This isn't memory alteration, this is memory deletion. There is a difference, semantic though it might be.
The problem of her being sterile could be handled by telling her that her injuries or possible an infection caused it. She has been missing for quite awhile and the injuries, no matter how received, could have caused it. also my only problem with having that sob mind wiped is that you can't put him away somewhere and let him spend the next ?????? number of years thinking that it is happening to him. doin something to him now that he has the mind of a foal is as bad as what he did, it just seems that he got off easy.
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I honestly doubt that... she will remember that the several surgeries, and considered that Tirek have destroyed Manehattan, even if she doesn't ask she will probably believe that she was wounded in the attack and just think the infertility is a result of the wounds she suffered there.
Considered that the whole Equestria was in complete and utter chaos at the moment, chances are that there will NOT be detailed reports of her wounds and even if she searched for them she will never find it. I also Applejack and Silver will never tell her it either, as they decided to 'share the burden' and all that stuff, for her happiness.
The only possible loophole in their plan is if she were to ever meet one of the other foals.
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The other foals who are having their memories scrubbed by Luna. They will not remember one another. They will only just barely remember their ordeal.
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Um, genital mutilation I really don't think covers it.
The prolapse was caused by a too big penis being forcibly inserted into a too small vagina. Something ripped. And instead of it being allowed to heal, it kept happening, even though she was already in horrible pain.
Maybe go read about the pain of a uterine prolapse. Or not. I kinda wish I hadn't.
Babs was in a lose/lose situation no matter how you look at it when it comes to the memory wipe or not to wipe.
Bucky does what he does as the act of ultimate punishment. As Luna said... An unspeakable act
Luna made her act as a way to heal babs removing the "infected" part of her memory
In the end it the same coin but with two sides
Also... 1 million
The key differences are time and severity. Babs will have a (possibly) full life, with a chance if sterility, while the three mirror worlders have been destroyed. One allowed life to continue while the other completely ruined any chance at rehabilitation or re-indoctrination
5382818 Unless somepony decides to spill the beans, there's no reason for them to not blame it on the very same accident that left her in a 'coma' for several months.
The great and terrible thing about telling a lie is that it will only get easier to tell. I can see how this whole scenario could leave Applejack in a similar predicament to Pinkie's.
Reminds me of a question I keep asking people I know.
Would you rather be ignorent and happy or knowledgeable and miserable?
How one answers that question says a lot about who they are.
On another note, even if Babs finds out some point down the road, I think she'd be able to handle it better. She just went through a very tramatic ordeal coupled with tortue from a supremesist that broke her mentally. In the future she will have better and happier memories (with luck) and moral support of her family that will help buffer the experience that was the horror of losing a loved one and months of physical and psychological torture.
5382945 I just went on the Wikipedia site for uterine prolapse
Oh my actual god... And caused by rape? Over months?! I ain't no doctor but... That does not sound like something you fix easily. I sure as hell hope that it can heal is some way, she is still young so maybe?
Then again, if something really has ripped then...
You are terrifyingly good at this sometimes kudz
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Pinkie Pie had to face the dark side of laughter...
Fluttershy had to deal with how her kindness affects others and the butterfly effect. (She had to give up a piece of herself)
Applejack is now seeing the dark side of honesty.
Rainbow Dash got to feel the bad end of loyalty and what is like to suffer for others.
Hmm, I wonder if there is some kind of pattern here. Does correlation equal causation?
5382945 I had not yet read the most recent chapter at that time. But yeah, I'd say genital mutilation and rape just about covers it, save it was also genitals that did the mutilation.
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The difference between Bucky and Luna is quite simple but complicated at the same time. Bucky does what he needs to in order to extract information from the enemies of his Equestria, his family, and his foals (in order of least important to most). Luna is doing this because it will lead to happier lives for those involved and has permission from the guardians of at least one of the foals.
Has what Bucky been doing immoral? In terms of Equine rights, yes. However, when your opponent breaks the rules, someone on your side has to do the same. Luna on the other hand, as stated before, is going about her business in order to create a brighter future for those she... helps, for lack of a better word.
5382889 removing infected tissue vs slicing the arm off is what you are comparing here. removing an infection to save the limb if with scarring vs ruining someone by amputating the limb.
bucky is chopping off limbs here. luna is removing memories infected with madness so that healthier memories can form.
i am starting to fear that the story might be doing dark for the sake of darkness with where it is going right now. this whole situation with babs feels just like that; darkness for darkness sake.
was the rape and damage it caused really necessary for this? from what i see her being abused to obedience and brainwashed is sufficiently cruel and disgusting. the rape however just seems.... unnecessary.
especially when we are talking about these mirror walkers be so disgusted by earth ponies. why would one touch one like that?
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You fail to understand why rape happens.
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Twilight also faced the dark side of magic by using it to take lives. And not jut taking a few, but thousands if not hundreds of thousands, something that she has yet to, and may never, make peace with.
Personally, I think it's the better choice. A child lacks any number of coping skills an adult might have learned. Such an experience could potentially poison the rest of Babs' life so she never found peace, let alone happiness. Her responses insinuated a level of broken spirit a child should never endure. Now she just has the horror of Tirek's attack to face, which will be a trial on it's own.
Might make more sense for some to consider it a balance of the more moral approach. Have Babs live with it and suffer in a way she might never get through? Or lose a span of time forever and just face the rest of the challenges she's been through already?
Would it be evil to make her live with that pain instead?
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If there are no reports being made about the injuries being treated, then somepony needs to take a look at Ponyville hospital and ask 'what the hell are you thinking?'
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**Nods**
Oh my gosh! SQUEE!
It makes me feel happy when people pay attention.
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The whole situation with Babs may have been done last minute, but it also shows something about the mirror travelers. This shows that they not only hate earth ponies, but are willing to use them for self gratification in the worst of ways and will even resort to using foals the same way.
I will also point out that the fact that you called rape unnecessary is quite obvious. Rape is about showing domination over an individual and proving that the attacker is superior. It is a result of one of the deepest levels of narcissism that is outclassed by only outclassed by a few problems, two of which are psychopathy and sociopathy. There is no justifying it, there is no reason for it, it exists because some beings (and I use that word with extreme disgust at comparing them to normal people/ponies) feel as though they are entitled to taking what isn't given freely.
5383037 i know why rape happens, and it is never a good reason. but in this case it almsot seems like thinking you need to rape your livestock to keep them under control to make a comparison.
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She'll want to know... or they can just tell her now that the surgeries and the damage inflicted by Tirek messed her up inside. They can tell her that lie -now- and she'll never wonder why or seek out what happened when she's older and ready to start her own biological family.
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Don't think we've seen Rarity encounter the dark side of generosity yet. Though I have a feeling it won't be TOO long. There will be someone, somewhere doing seemingly generous acts then taking advantage of those who thought they were being truly helped.
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Add to the fact that Babs was in blinding amounts of pain from the prolapse.
It sends a clear message that no emotion at all is felt. You're nothing but an object. It is the ultimate in humiliation. Possibly the best way to break someone.
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Both are good. One is to protect the world that is at war, the other is to protect the mind and future of a child.
Both are not only justifiable, they are done for good reasons. Nothing good was sacrificed, only bad things. Cutting out bad flesh in order to preserve and heal where it would otherwise poison incurably? Win-Win situation.
5383013 ,,,,,,,,, i really have to disagree with that list. all of those are far too vague. worse they can be viewed as failures.
pinkie had to endure the nature of her chaos powers after they were agitated by bucky's madness. she failed to reign them in and even her friends failed to help her.
rainbow dash fell bleeding on the floor and could not fight through the pain to help her friends, and thus proving her will is too weak if she was not willing to go farther. it would be too much to expect rainbow dash to stand up after that injury, and that is exactly WHY rainbow dash would.
what is happening to fluttershy makes no sense, and it can be seen as her actually failing to spread kindness if she must remain with discord to keep him in check. she failed to implant kindness in chaos to make him direct his chaos towards more beneficial mayhem.
applejack...... be god honest i do not see what this had anything to do with honesty at all. when it comes to superficial honesty i can see that. yet for much deeper honesty, honesty of intentions, these are all very easy choices to make. not one of her choices are selfish or have secondary purposes, they are all honest in their intent. arguably, that is the true face of honesty's element.
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YOU FAIL.
Again. Especially in regards to Rainbow Dash.
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One million! Onwards to 2 mil!
As for the lie/wipe, I think they did the right thing. Babs would've had emotional damage the rest of her life over what happened. It would take years to undo most of the damage, but something would likely always remain.
About the sterile issue, that could be explained as being caused by something impaling her, which would also explain why they needed to do surgery. Alternatively, you could say it was an unfortunate side effect to the surgery.
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You will be seeing it.
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Figured as much. I cannot wait.
You wrote this accurately and portrayed the true enormity and horror of a child being molested and raped. What Luna did was a mercy, make no mistake. Babs is going to have to undergo some SERIOUS reconstructive surgery. When a young girl is raped there are severe lacerations on the vulva and vaginal walls. Their body has not developed enough for them to often survive. Babs is lucky she lived through the process, it could have just as easily killed her.
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Must take advantage of my sister's generousity.
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Lets take this from the top again.
Pinkie: Element of laughter. Has only known laughter as a way of showing enjoyment or as a slight coping mechanism when things get a little unhappy and she wants to brighten the mood/stay slightly happy.
Dark Side of the Element: Bucky laughing while he killed sentient creatures in ways that horrified everyone present. She perceived his laughter as enjoyment towards the killing and mutilation of another living entity.
Rainbow Dash: Element of Loyalty. Truly cares for her friends and will charge into any situation to defend them and even willing to give up her own happiness for them.
Dark Side to the Element: Being unable to force her body to respond and help her friends from experiencing extreme pain, murdered, possibly taken as food, and nearly being raped. Almost giving up her happiness nearly breaking her mental state after the previous actions happened. (As a side note: having actually been beaten down and working my body to literal exhaustion where I couldn't move on either account, no matter how much will you have, when the body says stop, you stop.)
Fluttershy: Element of Kindness. Willing to show kindness to any and all creatures. Will submit to those with more charisma or willpower in order to stay kind and not start a conflict.
Dark Side to the Element: Upon befriending and having a reciprocated love with a Spirit of Chaos (the force of anything can happen anytime) she has switched limbs, is having a child with said being, and will eventually live forever suffering the death of her friends, their children, grandchildren, etc.
Applejack: Element of Honesty. Honest to a fault. Will give factual information or her viewpoint whether asked or not and is almost unable to lie.
Dark Side to the Element: Has given permission for a foal's memories to be erased and will have to keep the events of those memories a secret for her whole life.
Those are the 100% facts around the Elements and what they have had to face thus far. That's not even what Rarity will have to face or hat else the Element Bearers will have to face. (I am going at 19 hours no sleep and this is still simple, how can you not understand this?)
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Speaking of Rarity, will we be seeing her element's dark side soon or have I goofed and need to reread something once I get some sleep?
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For Dash, the real test was the weeping wedding, after she got to feel the pain of near loss. She knew what loss felt like, or had a good idea, and was willing to let Twilight and Flash go so they could both be happy together, even though it meant Rainbow being miserable.
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Dman! Poor filly. Hmmm mind wipe is definitely a good thing I think.
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I think these series of comments will help.
So.
I looked this up.
There were a couple of photos that could disturb people (especially the graphic ones with animals in http://www.karunasociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/prolapse-1.jpg), but
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Prolapse-of-the-uterus/Pages/Introduction.aspx
Just gives you a look at what Babs may have to go through :/ Sterility and all.
Mistreatment of children or foals is a big no no.
That being said, this was a damm good chapter