Every action taken is like dropping a pebble in a pond, creating ripples that extend ever outward. Every choice has consequences, good and bad... Putting on a Crown may have changed Sunset Shimmer's life...but it also Changed two worlds...
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sounds like chrysalis
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I tend to agree. My only other thought after her previous mention was Tempest, but this chapter definitely makes me think Chrysalis.
Oh my. More shadowplay. And from the descriptions, that sounds like Chrysalis.
Hi Chryssie, do help Sunny buns. Cinch doesn't deserve any leg up.
The matriarchal feel and the "mother" title with fingers in many pies. Yeah, going to agree with others. When I saw the chess piece I thought it might have something to do with Cozy but nope. And she knows "Red" is special. Whoo boy.
Green eyes? Inky black skin? Matriarchal role? Not to mention the queen piece at the top? Yep, my money's on Chrysalis.
But friend or foe indeed...
Certainly sounds like she has something against Cinch, the "snake charmer", if I'm reading between the lines correctly. But can or will she help Sunset aka "Red"?
I made the guess there was a 3rd party in the shadows back in "Research Log I: Preliminary Findings" and this confirmed it!
Just missing the confirm that it's Chrysalis, though it sounds like it is. (If you want to see it, here's a link to that comment.)
Can't wait to see how it all plays out and I think I know what she is after and why, though my question is "How did she know Sunset has magical powers? Did she witness 'The Prom' or had she always known?"
I can wait for that answer, though I can't wait for the drama that's about to unfold. 😈
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ok, up until this point i had no idea what's going on
it might be chrysalis, "collective" is not a very common word among pony villains
especially since Child is capitalized
this whole thing is reaaaaally suspicious...
i really want changelings as forces for good, but since the previous emotivores have all been highly negative influences i really don't expect anything different at first
hopefully some of them will be good guys without the uh, annoying color scheme overhaul
oh? helping shining with a case and also working against cinch? well they can't be pure evil then (but they could absolutely have their own agenda that's still sinister, just at odds with cinch)
So as I'm re-reading this for the umpteenth time, mostly because it's great, each successive re-read has allowed me to put together a better and better understanding of some situations, and I've come to a conclusion.
I don't think Princess Celestia /needs/ to make an appearance in this series. As in I don't feel it's required, but not that it can't or shouldn't happen. I feel the Princess has provided a solid bit of lore and need in Sunset's formation as a person, but I don't think Sunset needs to make amends with her to carry on in life.
That being said, if Princess Celestia makes an appearance in the human world, I feel she does need the shit slapped out of her. Did Sunset become a legitimate monster, and do so largely based off her own choices? Oh, oh no, not quite, and yes, but she is a /CHILD/.
Every decision she's made, both before and after her fall, are direct results of how she was raised by the Princess. Not because she was an orphan, not just because she has a temper. Because she was raised to where her actions were felt to be her only recourse.
One can argue that we only see her side, but I call bullshit due to circumstances where she divulged info that is far less than flattering for herself, notably where she discusses anger with her friends.
She admits she's had a temper, yes, even back home. The problem is that rather than find the source of her ire, we have it admitted that the high class kids routinely got off with a slap on the wrist, if that, for harassing and bullying her, which is not something I chalk up to interpretation because it is a fact that such things actively happen with bullies, either the 'not my little angel' or the 'and why should I care' attitudes.
We also know that Sunset, an orphan, was given housing in the cashle. A house effectively, but not a home. I've lived in plenty of houses in my life. I've only had three places I can state were homes. There is a distinctive difference, and no matter how Sunset tries to argue she deserved what she got for being ousted from her house for how she acted to Celestia, we can not ignore that she got reprimanded for defending herself from bullies. She got it rubbed in her face regularly that she had no family. She had a caretaker that did not ensure she had a home, a place to return to safe from the storms outside, with understanding friends and family. We can conflate that this didn't happen because it took Principal Celestia and VP Luna to teach Sunset that doing the right thing, defending oneself or another, is acceptable, but the way you do so may not be, which means this was never a conversation had with the Princess, allowing for a fair assumption to be that anytime Sunset defended herself, she was not asked the why of her actions, merely reprimanded for them.
No home, no friends, no support. I know what kind of kid this makes, because I became this kid for a while, a violent, angry, distrusting ass with no issue putting a beat down on other kids that sought to start shit with me. One who gave up caring what others thought or felt, because in my experience no one cared what I thought or felt.
And honestly, it pisses me off more, because Sunset at her worst(not Demon Sunset), was still better than I was way back then. She still helped people because it was the right thing to do. Me? I got invited to a guys wedding six years back, he admitted he'd gone through near twenty chained contacts, as in found someone, who found someone, who then found someone, and so on, to get a hold of me and invite me. Because I was his friend in my freshman and sophomore years before I changed schools. Because when at his wedding, when making a toast, he called me out in specific, because in 10th grade, at his most depressed, when he was legitimately thinking on offing himself, I stepped up and defended him, and let him hang out with me, and decided to be his friend...
And it's all lies based on his perception of events.
I didn't know who he was when he called me with the invite. I showed up because of the effort he took to find me and because at 24 I was far less a cunt than I was in high-school. I didn't decide to be his friend, or go out of my way to defend him like Sunset did for people. I let bullied kids hang around me in my high-school years for two reasons. They wouldn't talk to me, because at the time I thought they were whiny bitches and i didnt want to be friends with them anyway, which I've grown to see was fucked up, and because I knew the kids I didn't like the most would occasionally come over to harass them. And then I had an excuse to beat the shit out of them. Because I liked it, and it made me feel better about my lot in life.
At that time, I didn't give a shit about this kid that had admired me, viewed me as a friend, had admitted in his speech that he had gotten into Child services work, and youth community work, to be like me, protecting those in need.
And in high school, all the way up until his invite, I didn't even know this man's name.
So believe me when I say Sunset was never a monster, she was a kid with no support, doing her best with what she had offered to her, and that led to her only relying on her own skills and experiences. But to feel she has to resort to violence and manipulation to achieve anything, but still helps the shop owner, still always puts money in the pay it forward jar, still risks her own health and well being just to be good people to other, be the person she wanted in her life but didn't have, and that was all 'at her worst' then she sure as shit was never a monster or the person/pony Celestia made her out to be, but the was the girl Celestia moulded her to be by her own actions, and ultimately the girl Celestia failed.
So Velvet, if she meets her, needs to slap Princess Celestia so hard the sun spins round the planet wrong ways back in Equestria, because she fucking deserves it.
As for the writing, it's top notch, has been from the start, and the fact that so much detail is put into Sunset Shimmer as a character is telling of your skill. That these conclusions can be inferred and conflated from her history and tid bits of her backstory sprinkled throughout the story all serve to show how much time, effort and dedication have been put into Rubicon, and I fucking love it.
Keep up the good work, and know that I'll always be here for the next chapter, with much anticipation.
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*smirks and munches popcorn*
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Cinch certainly deserves something. Perhaps a good kick inthe teeth?
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*cackles*
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Friend? Or foe? Ally? Or Adversary? Who can say?
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>:} *steeples claws* Heheheheheheheh.
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:}
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Look, no one ever said Dash was the smartest. And I'm glad Lyra made you laugh.
Yes. Flash is bad at this.
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*Ominous music.*
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So, I'm sorry about the delay, but I wanted to take the time to compose my response because we all felt your comment deserved it.
To start with, let me say that this is the kind of comment that really makes us feel good about the story, because it says that we have reached out and touched people, and made them feel strong emotions. Its inspiring and encouraging on those days where even getting a few paragraphs out can be...exhausting. So thank you. Thank you so much, from all three of us working on this tale.
Its very interesting to see just how much of the nuance about Sunset's character that we were going for you that you have picked up on, and how you've even noticed some of the more subtle things we've only hinted at with the little snippets and tidbits from Sunset's backstory. Its also interesting to see what you've put together about that backstory, and along with it, her relationship with Celestia. I will admit, we do have plans for a side story that deals with the goings on in Equestria, and that will feature the rest of the unraveled backstory for Sunset Shimmer, along with a good bit of the world building and culture building we've done for the story's setting, but its a sidestory, and ultimately, Princess Celestia is, at best, a minor character more meant as part of Sunset's backstory for the forseeable future.
I also know that while other people have pushed for reconciliation, I can also say that 1. What happened between Celestia and Sunset was not a case of either side being 100% in the wrong, or being 100% in the right. There are circumstances, that as of right now, have not been discussed, but will be addressed....as will the little wrinkle of Sunset's age at certain points. And 2. Reconciliation for something as big as the damaged mess here is not a one and done, overnight thing. If there does come such a thing, it would not be handled with a simple apology.
I...also wanted to thank you for actually sharing your own story, and express just how much I appreciate everything you wrote, because at times, due to some...criticism from other writers with different styles...I'm not always sure i'm in the right with how I'm portraying Sunset as a character, and if it is coming across the way I intend it. And to know that this character that I've truly come to love, that not just me but all three of us have put blood, sweat, tears, and pieces of our souls into, has had such an emotional impact and affect on a reader....that means something. That matters, so much. Its this kind of comment that is why I feel good about sharing the story with the world, why I love stories and writing...It gives us all one hell of a serotonin boost to read things like this.
Anmd yes....If Celestia ever comes through the portal, she's going to have to run the gauntlet of Sunset's friends and family to get to her. And straight up? Velvet isnt the one I'd be afraid of.
I'd be more afraid of five foot three of dark haired teenage girl. If pony Twilight was willing to Kamehameha Tirek through a mountain for holding her friends hostage...what do you think Sparky is going to do to Princess Celestia?
*deep bow*
Thank you for your comment, and I hope that we live up to your expectations in the future.
Chrysalis 100%
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So obviously, I've taken my own sweet time to respond as well, but that's more in line with the fact that despite how intelligent I /can/ be, and how well written and spoken I /can/ be, the emphasis on can has a lot to do with the fact that I can come off as brusque at best and rather rude at worst if I don't think hard before I speak. The first message had a lot more 'fuck's, 'fucking's and 'fucked's before I spent four days refining it haha.
Past that though, I do really appreciate you guys giving such a solid response to my initial comment. One of the big things I wanted to say too, is people with other writing styles criticising your portrayal of Sunny? Well direct 'em to the following: "Sit on a dick and spin."
Which is not me not planning this response, I've been working on it for a few days. No, that's the response you get from someone who has only picked up a lot of the nuances you've put into Sunny only because of experience. I can tell you a lot of nuances involving Sunset's rocky side of life, but honestly I can bet that there's plenty nuances from the nice side of things that I miss, such as the fact that only after reading this more than five times did I catch the clues that the Sparkle residence was going to give Sunny a room.
Which brings me to this comment, one that I hope comes out right.
If none of you have any personal experiences that help you write out Sunset's troubled family life and childhood. Good, from the depths of my soul, I decree "GOOD", because that is how your childhood /should/ be and I won't decry you for writing 'out of your lane' or some bullshit like that. You have made a realistic, honest and well thought out portrayal of the life, and I respect that and appreciate it.
However, if any of you working on this are putting your own experiences to pen as you've made the origami star that is the characterisation of Sunset, then to you, or you both, or you all, then I would like to say, even if you already know it, then to reaffirm, you fucking made it. You made it through that, you've made it far enough that you can face that, and face it in a way that let's you share it, anonymously or otherwise, with the world. And if you can do that, you can do anything. Because facing your past can be harder than any other challenge in the world, but you're fucking doing it, and it's clearly being faced well, since you've got this crotchety thirty year old who, admittedly, still gets weird about hugs, wanting to give you one.
I get that in depth because, as good a life as kids should get, I feel that the quirks and hints wouldn't be so subtle if not for the fact that someone has been through it and knows them in a personal way.
And honestly, I think that even with the 'big magic threats' looming on the horizon, I'm always going to love the kitchy, slice of life bits of this story the most. I don't tear up at sad bits of shit anymore in life. Childhood sucked for a bit, sure, spent time serving with friends, yeah, seen the fucked underbelly of the world more personally than I'd've liked. But there's too much sorrow to waste time crying over. Won't ever get shit done or make it better that way. Hell, I'd bet this story wouldn't likely exist if we all just curled up and cried every time things get a little sad.
But Sunny having her first experience realising that the Sparkle residence isn't just another house for her to stay, but a /home/. Seeing the fiery little shit get to find real friends who'll stand by her no matter what? Or her first holiday with them. I mean fuck man, the room given! Yeah, yeah that's the shit you don't get to see as much in the world. Shit that'll brighten the soul to see, remind you that the world can be as dark as it fucking wants, but it's no reason not to choose to shine anyway, because that little bit of good still exists, and you might as well give it a beacon.
All that goofy, happy shit, that's how you get tears from me, and all I got here after saying all that is thank you guys, and don't ever think that you aren't appreciated, because even if the rest of Fimfic abandons ship, I'll be here for another read through, and everyone else can fall in, or fuck off, but Rubicon is mint.
I've been wondering if chrysalis was going to show up here. It's always interesting to see what people do with eqg chryssy.
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i know that the post that this is connected too and the one after are very serious moments, but reading at the end there of the Authors made my mind wonder to seeing Sci-Twi do a magic infused Backhand to Princess Celestia and send her fly back through the portal towards her own sun and then some and i just could not help but get a chuckle and wanted to share the bit in my mind. i do apologies though for anyone who make take some offense to this comment being made after such deep posts.