Every action taken is like dropping a pebble in a pond, creating ripples that extend ever outward. Every choice has consequences, good and bad... Putting on a Crown may have changed Sunset Shimmer's life...but it also Changed two worlds...
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Surprise breakfast in bed and a shared shower? Ooh, now that is sweet!
Sunset casually namedropping Equestria literary norms I see. Twilight's gonna be going on a deep dive for a country and/or place with that name at some point.
Honestly, seeing Sunset's culture bleed through was mint in this chapter. Waking up with minimal thought on what she did and more on who she did it with. The immediate push to make her food and show she cares. Plus, the lead up to the shower, yeah, she flirts, taunts a little, but not when she removes her shorts. All the smirks and hip sways, but the casual "don't need these in the shower". Because for humans that can be erotic. How you strip, what position you stand in, the way you go about it.
For Sunset it's like swapping a suit and tie for jeans and a tee shirt.
And then she's right back to her looks and body language.
Which reminds me, she put out a /lot/ of body language here. Before she's noted how she controls herself, but some things slip through. Here, with who Twilight is to her, she seems to just kind of finally hitting the 'but fuck it' stage instinctually, even if she's still got a couple mental blocks.
And finally, I note that Sunset, whether she realises it or not, has shown a lot more than she realises. Twily did note those eyes of hers...
The Blue-Green on //Black// ones.
Careful Sunny...
diiaabeetuus *-*
This was a cute chapter. It seemed weird last week that Twi hadn't really done anything for Sunset but this chapter had a better balance. I hadn't thought of the rules Sunset put up coming into play that way.
Hopefully Sunny tells Twi about herself before the games hit. Otherwise the info is coming out on it's own and that's not a good thing.
Uuuhhhhhh… excuse me????
I think this is my favorite chapter so far, I absolutely adored this type intimate fluffiness.
Oh, that's all so cu--
Uh.
Uhhhhhh.
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All I can say is...
Uh... Sunny? Your succubus is showing.
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It's worse than that. Not only is her succubus showing, it's this chapter that lets us confirm that Sunset's officially got the Succubus's hunger as well. All this time up to this, Sunny's effectively been starving part of herself, her magic. It's a hunger so strong it terrifies her. But the moment that sex has actually happened, Sunset is no longer as needy as she was before? She's effectively fed on Twilight, and her need has been sated, if only a little.
I've no doubt that we're likely going to see Sunset's magic/powers get a sizeable upgrade as well. We've been effectively dealing with a half starved demon before this point, sustaining itself on friendship and the occasional heavy petting that's like giving someone lost in the desert a single sip of water. We now have a Suncubus that's had a MEAL. if Cinch and her Master thought Sunset was something to be worried about before, they're going to hate her actually having her new magical needs met.
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With the Friendship Games getting ever nearer, it makes me wonder if or how Sunset's Daydream form will come into play. I mean, the demon form from the Fall Formal was very... well... demonic, but Daydream Shimmer was more angelic with a bit of pony and phoenix mixed in. So... how does she go from one supernatural form to the other?
(And again, that's if it's incorporated in at all)
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Got a few chapters to go before we see her back at school. As for what happens then...you'll see.
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It makes sense. My spouse has always had that difficulty--its why they aren't particularly a reader when its not straight dialogue like in a video game or manga. So yeah, it just could be that.
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Babies are not my thing. I chose not to reproduce for some very good reasons, and my dislike of fragile, screaming, shit-and-vomit-machines that always smell of spoiled milk is a very large one. Give me puppies or kittens any day.
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It makes sense that you find traits you relate to in some of the characters--that's very normal, and quite common. In fact, a lot of people are drawn to particular narratives or characters because of that feeling of relating to the character's traits or to their story itself. Its one of the big reasons we work so hard to make sure we do our homework on the various flaws, struggles, or experiences of the characters. Because many of those things are real for real people, and it isn't okay to make a hash of it for plot fodder or treat it like a joke. I know I hate it when a rage problem is treated like a plot point or joke, when the fact is it is something I live with every day that has shaped my life because I'm terrified of my anger getting away from me and causing me to hurt or kill someone. So yeah. The fact that you relate to some of sunset's struggles and experiences is completely understandable! :}
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Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people see the M rating and expect all kinds of things from that. I wanted to tell a real story without having to check myself for how intense some parts of it might be, hence the rating, and I feel like while its...perhaps inhibited the story from getting as many views as it could have, allowing myself the creative freedom to go the extra mile for both the interpersonal relationships/struggles, and the level of villainy has made it the story I need to tell.
So many of the things you cited as places we paid attention to detail....its because those things are so foundational to Sunset's personal and emotional journey from the unicorn-turned-teen-girl-who-became-a-literal-Demon in Equestria Girls to the loving, empathetic, confident leader we see from Friendship Games' climax all the way to the end of the EqG stuff. Redemption is hard. Self change is HARD. Its a long and difficult journey and she earns it thrice over in canon, but I wanted to take it that extra mile, because I love redemption stories. I love the characters, the people who have that horrible fall, hit the absolute bottom, and then have to figure themselves out and pick themselves up and learn to BE A BETTER PERSON. Its a beautiful thing when done well, and to me, its one of the most hopeful and feel good types of stories....because it reminds me that no one is beyond redemption if they truly desire to fix themselves. No one is beyond saving if they want to be saved.
And that feels good to me. It makes me really look at people, and give them a chance if they really want to do better. It makes me better, and it helps me help other people be better.
As for the sex scene, I think you're pretty much echoing the feelings I was getting at in one of my responses last week to another reader. That...for me, i just dont get the normal reaction of how other people view sex, because my own place in the whole demiromantic/demisexual part of the spectrum of romance/sexuality/attraction. I wanted a scene that felt like the culmination of emotional buildup in a relationship built on friendship and love, rather than an expression of physical hormones....while still balancing it against "teenagers are horny fuckers."
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Yup. Sunset is happy to spoil her nerd. :P
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She's made her decision, now she just has to plan the reveal.
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I cannot stress how many long, in depth conversations the team has had about pony culture, particularly in the way they view relationships. Between comparing biology and how that affects behavior, to social/cultural influences (like how ponies completely lack religion), to the very fact that with the huge gender disparity that the culture would be unintentionally female dominated--simply because of numbers--it really came down to this weird separation of intimacy and sex as...two different things that are sometimes connected.
Sunset struggled with the committment to intimacy, because it implied a desire to choose Twilight and being human over Equestria. The sex was an expression of that intimacy, but more because of the vulnerability she would have to show to be that intimate with someone, anyone. Now that she's taken that plunge, she's all in, and she's still a pony at heart. Making breakfast, affectionate touch, cuddling, even the playful, flirty teasing, showering together, all of that is more of that "expression of intimacy" than from general "horniness." Taking off her shorts? Being naked? You hit it right--for a culture of nudists, theres...nothing sexual or even intimate about it. It was just, "huh, right, don't need this in the shower. Gonna shuck them here." It doesnt means she isnt aware of the concept of showing off her 'attractive assets' to her partner--we see very clearly in the things you noted (the hip sway, the acknowledgement of Twilight's gaze, the playful smirk, the way she looks back) that she does enjoy the way Twilight reacts to her body.
She's relaxed around Twilight--she's always let more slip with Twilight as far as her natural behaviors, even if she hasnt explained them yet--and at this point, she's made the choice to tell her. She's not really keeping things a secret anymore, just...trying to find the right way to do the big reveal.
Mmm. Yes. There's been hints before of Dream-Sunset not being quite...normal. That somehow, Twilight has gotten flashes of that other side. How or why, well. You'll see.
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*adds more sweetness* Yup. Please remember to brush your teeth after consuming this much sweet stuff. Don't want cavities, after all.
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*nods* I can see where that might be the perception, initially. I think part of that is the nature of people to view sex through the lens of heteronormative interaction, where there's a sort of "one partner then the other/both at the same time" idealism to how sex works.
....I can unequivocally tell you that that is a complete fantasy, with both male and female partners. Sexual intimacy doesnt always follow that formula. Sometimes it cant. Sometimes its more involved. Sometimes one partner has needs that take precedence over the other's, sometimes a person derives pleasure and satisfaction and satiation from something other than orgasm. Real sex is messy. Its silly. Its affectionate. Its intimate. Its vulnerable. It can have moments of disgusting stuff. It can have unequal looking boundaries.
That was the case in Sweet Surrender. Maybe Twilight didn't return the favor, as it were, but...in that moment, Sunset didn't desire her to. She was sated and content. She found her own form of release in the actions they did engage in, and had her needs met in a way that didn't involve Twilight going down on her. And yes, some of that was because she had not yet given Twilight consent to go beyond those boundaries that had been established yet. Consent is paramount, and Twilight, having been a victim to an assault in the beginning of the story, is hyper aware of the importance of receiving and rechecking for consent.
It doesnt mean that will happen in every encounter with them. It doesnt mean that Twilight will never be the one giving Sunset a good time. But...here...well. Like i've noted, the sex wasnt the point. It was the vehicle for the point.
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Did I stutter? :P
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You okay there? Concubus got your tongue?
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It is, isnt it?
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I was wondering if anyone would clue into that bit.
On the nature of that...
Desire is a funny word. People often associate it with sex...but it has a much broader meaning than that. Ask ten people what they DESIRE and you'll get ten different answers. Lust is the same way. Associated most with sex, but...doesnt actually mean that. A lust for power is a thing. A lust for knowledge. For revenge.
Food for thought on thought as food.
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Oh, the Games are going to be an EXPERIENCE.
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"How or why"
The serious part of me says it's that heritage and nature thing tbh. Nightmare Sunset, Dream Walker Sunset, Dragon Sunset, Siren Sunset, Succubus Sunset, Umbra Sunset, whatever it is, is locked on 'Mine' and not letting go. Basically they claimed Sparky either before Sunny knew she did, or at least claimed them at the same time. Also, there's the memes of 'accidentally magically contractually bound herself to Sunny already' memes if it's Fey or Devil Sunny.
Yhe non-serious side of me says other Sunny is going 'right, intimacy, good time waking Sunny. Anyway, I'm dream Sunnny and boy am I DTF.'
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As both someone who is big into different genres of magic when it comes to fiction and a huge Dresden fan, which plays quite often with Vampires and their needs, it clicked pretty quickly to me that Sunset basically was able to take some of what they did as sustenance. The thing here is the fact that, as far as we've seen thus far, Succubi like what we'd normally see them aren't something Sunset is familiar with. Which clues me into another suspicion I've got about the story, but I'll keep that under wraps for now if only because I'm not the kind of guy who likes going 'Oh hey, this is the story thread' and possibly spoil future fun.
The different desires being something that could be possibly fed from is probably what happened here. It's not the act of sex that fed Sunny. It was the act of intimacy. Regardless of what happens, in her heart of hearts, Sunset is a pony. Intimacy is what's most important to her and as such, it's what fed her Succubus side. It's probably going to be the key feature of what will make Succubi Sunset (Seeing as Mental Sunny for Twi and Stupid Little Voice for Sunset is probably that Succubi aspect being given life) eventually seen as a force of good instead of just a sexual demon, especially if feeding of Sparky isn't hurting her. Doesn't mean that Sunset isn't going to be feeling guilty as all hell if/when they piece it all together.
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it was a nice change, i do not expect it to last <.<
For someone/somepony who is not good with intimate relationships she is hitting all the home runs. Knows what she likes and hopes her nerd likes it too. Breakfast in bed and sharing a shower. The kinds of things you don't forget and never get old. And while most human cultures shy from communal bathing it is still a thing in some places. Also, damn. I want a walk in shower like that. More than enough room for two, multi nozzles with a detachable wand.
As far as how to reveal. It's going to be hard without the girls. She should enlist at least one. I would start with Fluttershy and bring Flash since they have already met.
Until next week!
oh?
Cleaning up your nerd after getting her all worked up and sweaty? Good for you, Sunset. Nice to see her spoiling Twi.
Though the whole showing her magic thing is probably going to go wrong.
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*Cackles wickedly* Mmm. Answers exist. You'll see.
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Indeed, the concept of succubi/incubi/concubi is not something that really comes up in Equestria. Partially because ponies are not as sex focused as humans, and partially because of the broader nature of desire. Ponies, as a culture, don't deny their deepest desires, because most of the time those desires are reflected in the mark formed on their flanks. A pony desires to follow what their cutie mark says they should be doing...and the entire culture has been framed around those marks and how they are such a part of a pony's identity that they would never even think about telling a pony to deny them. It is a very rare instance for a pony to be transformed into a concubus, under the circumstances that one becomes that twisted with darkness and ugliness and super charged with magic, because it is a very rare occurrence for a pony to have unfulfilled desire for something be that which has consumed their mind and soul. Fear, pain, or loneliness would be more likely as primary negative emotions, and trailed by those might be anger.
I will freely admit, I've got a peculiar way of running concubi, because I did a personal deep dive down the rabbit hole of the concept a decade ago to play "an incubus in disguise" on a World of Warcraft RP server. It spiraled into a bunch of thoughts and theories, and a long philosophical debate on the concept of "What is Desire?" and how people respond to the question "What do you truly Desire?" (I also laughingly, did this a few years before the show "Lucifer" aired, and I will admit, I laughed like hell because of the inadvertent similarities between my incubus and Lucifer himself.)
The details of exactly what's going on with Sunset though are....a thing of their own, and it will all be revealed in time, as the story plays out. I'm interested to see how you and other readers put things together as it goes along. :}
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Indeed. We do have the games coming up.
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Sunset is actually a very sweet and observant friend if you pay attention to the canon material. Empathy was a good choice for her, ya know? And here, she's highly sensitive to Twilight's feelings and wants and needs, trying to do things that will make her happy, make her smile, that feels good for both of them.
That shower is the one I wish I owned, I swear. If I ever win the lotto, the indulgences I plan on allowing myself include computer (and peripherals), the world's most luxurious bathroom, and a private library with an office off it. Because....yeah.
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Bruhahahah.
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Its good manners to clean up after yourself when you make a mess. ;)
stop i feel so lonley now (dont stop please this is so fluffy i love it)