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Forget not that I am a derp.


This story is a sequel to A Mad Glimmer

The plan had been perfect, taking everything from Twilight Sparkle and trapping her in a no-win situation. Then Twilight showed Starlight the alleged consequences of her actions.

But there's a bit more to the story. Starlight Glimmer has paid a heavy price, but there's one more debt to call in.

After all, Discord doesn't make idle threats.

Story contains spoilers for the Season 5 finale, potentially disturbing imagery, and nuts. Story still does not contain Nikita Khrushchev or shoes.

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Nikita Khrushchev or shoes

who and wat

Cross-reference the description of the prequel.

Is this is what catharsis is like for you, F.O.M.E.?

Huh. You're almost as @#$%ed up in the head as I am.


I'm reverse messed up.


Story still does not contain Nikita Khrushchev or shoes.

Yeesh. I admit, I wanted her to get some comeuppance, but that is a bit too dark. Also kinda matrix-y.

That is beautiful science fantasy. Well, beautifully-horrible science fantasy, anyway. I concur that this is what the Changeling-dominated world might have looked at after a couple centuries of biological and social development. Bigger things might have been going on, but Discord wasn't interested in talking about them, nor would I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream Starlight Glimmer. (Hey, she tried for a Kurt Vonnegut story and wound up in Harlan Ellison -- go fig!)

I like the way that Discord handled his revenge. He got to simultaneously fulfill his evil promise and make Twilight Sparkle happy and do it in such a way that the version of Starlight Glimmer who continued on in his timeline never figured out what he'd done. This was foreshadowed by what he had just done with Celestia and Luna -- of course he wasn't angry at them. Very well done!

Fun... and as 6706464 says, this lets Discord get revenge without letting anyone else know it.

But one thing's not quite clear - given how the Changeling cocoons create all sorts of illusions, why is Starlight Glimmer screaming? Shouldn't she be ruling over an Equalist Equestria with everypony happy and (for some reason) still productive? Or was that a feature of the cocoons that got removed for efficiency's sake with the new model of ponies?

Oh jeez. Welp, let's dive in.


Discord put her in there. He probably set things up so that she was perfectly aware of what was really being done to her.

She really pissed him off.

There should be an evil grin emote :pinkiecrazy:

There are many stories I discard the moment I conceive of them. I come with a lot of ideas far darker than I'm willing to develop. This is about on the edge of how dark I want to get. (This is part of why it's taking me so long to reboot Phthisis is Magic.)

I feel I'm missing some vital context here.

Yeah, I had a rather unpleasant moment after coming up with the idea where I realized just how Wachoskian the scenario is. Though, honestly, the machines could've gone a lot more extreme than the changelings did. It takes a lot more neural architecture to generate love than it does heat.
And I admit, this is rather extreme. Still, it was conceived by the same fellow who was going to throw a hippy into a sock puppet dimension for the crime of dividing his friend's attention.

Thanks! :twilightsmile: And yeah, a fair amount of extraneous exposition ended up on the cutting room floor. Honestly, I think I could've gotten away with even less, but I felt the celestial mechanics of a world without Celestia or Luna needed to be addressed. Plus, showing off the literal Biological Clock was too good an opportunity to pass up. :derpytongue2:

The pods were for unmodified ponies. The new models don't need illusions to keep them docile; their brains are literally incapable of feeling anything but love. Starlight's consciousness is running in parallel with that of her host body, retaining all of the capabilities of her unaltered brain, like fear and horror. Chaos magic allows for some incredible possibilities.

I find that one works well for most evil grin-appropriate situations. :ajsmug:, :rainbowdetermined2:, and :trollestia: also have their uses.


That was horrifying.

When the previous story was posted, I remember saying that I enjoy stories where former villains demonstrate why they should not be fucked with, reformed or not. This is exactly the kind of thing I was referring to. Nicely done, FoME.



Hmm, the changeling art reminded somewhat of a species of creature in Larry Niven's Known Space novels that make touch art, because they see in radar, not the visible spectrum.

Starlight gritted her teeth. "What do you want? What did you do? How did you even get here?"

"Finally, some decent questions. Going backwards, I found you through the bit of myself I left in your mind during our last meeting."

So it's entrapment. What a dick. Why isn't this version of Discord constantly splintering off all of Equestria and torturing them in chaotic side-timelines?

Well, he delivered on a promise. That's something. Also, we need a word for something that's both satisfying and horrific.

No idea. What I do know is that I want to see him rot in some hell of his own.

Not forever, but long enough.

In fact, that's my own personal sequel to this story: Discord being slowly purified by Harmony Magic, screaming and everything. Yeah, I can make peace with it then. Watching him roast... Nah, that's too far. But some comeuppance would be nice for a Karma Houdini this egregious.

I never could get into the Dickish Omnipotent Discord Does Something Horrid And Gets Away With It genre. I can barely stand him on the show. ^_^

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In other news, FanOfMostEverything continues his valiant fight against mentions of Nikita Khrushchev or shoes.

This is fantastic. You wrote Discord really well and the second half reminds me of the Tyranids from 40k.


That is beautiful science fantasy. Well, beautifully-horrible science fantasy, anyway. I concur that this is what the Changeling-dominated world might have looked at after a couple centuries of biological and social development. Bigger things might have been going on, but Discord wasn't interested in talking about them, nor would I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream Starlight Glimmer. (Hey, she tried for a Kurt Vonnegut story and wound up in Harlan Ellison -- go fig!)

Agreed! Very well written, brutally psychological and frightening in the same way that 'I Have No Mouth...' or 1984 are. What makes it for me in particular is the way Discord goes about explaining away Starlight Glimmer's utopian ideal. He's zany, yes, but the language he uses,- latinate, 'fungible', gentile, 'my dear', and occasionally alliterative, 'chaotic chronomancy',- and the pitiless logic he uses to demonstrate the futility of absolute equality is what elevates him from a puckish prankster to a fully fledged,- and in many ways recognizably human,- monster. Especially note how the transition is properly cemented in the shift from 'Discord' to 'this creature' in the paragraph just before he snaps his fingers. It's that moment of revelation on Starlight Glimmer's part that makes it so very effective.

I guess what I take away from this is "Discord desperately tries to make someone else look worse than himself, and fails".

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Thanks! :pinkiesmile:

I love experimenting with weird senses. It's just cool to imagine what the world would look like in infrared, or what different gems would taste like, or a purely psychic language that uses emotions in place of phonemes.

And yeah, this is pretty messed up.

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Without all of the harmonious time magic to counterbalance his work, Discord plus timestream equals a bad time for everyone.

And yeah, I know this won't appeal to everyone. Honestly, it doesn't appeal to me all that much after the events of the finale; I was kind of hoping Starlight would get lost in the timestream. Still, I wanted to make the follow-through for A Mad Glimmer.

Satisfic? Emphasis on the first syllable, so you don't confuse it with sadistic.

Thank you for clarifying matters. :twilightsmile:

More or less. Anyone who essentially creates life specifically to torture it isn't going to come out as the good guy, nor do I think he does. Still, that wasn't Discord's goal. He wanted to get the revenge that he knew Twilight would never seek out. He was outraged on her behalf, and that rarely ends well.


Not forever, but long enough.

A thousand years, maybe?

I tend to think Discord has already spent plenty of time rotting in a personal hell.

is all can be said

... wat?

Story still does not contain Nikita Khrushchev or shoes.

Dammit man you PROMISED

Fun fact: This is the thirty-seventh such eternal torture that Discord has got away with scot free, thanks to convenient alternative universes.

Four of them were needed just to counterbalance the cucumber sandwiches. He quite enjoys those now.


I was kind of hoping Starlight would get lost in the timestream.

Don't give Best Pony and the ETSAB ideas. Cleaning up her mess is going to bring out the Hybrid in somepony and I'd rather not see that. It'll be worse that what Discord did.

And Starlight Glimmer continued to scream.

This means that the love being fed to the generator is Discord's doing, leaving Starlight Glimmer free to be horrified.

I have two word for stories like these.

Deliciously evil.

At first I thought this story was titled, "A Glazed Cream".

I blame ponuts.

Anugypt at the peak of flood season isn't as deep in denial as you are.

Nice ending for Starlight:pinkiecrazy:,

Channeling a bit of Brave New World, I see. :twistnerd:



(No, I am absolutely not a very nice person.)

And thus I make peace with Starlight Glimmer's redemption.

Nice. I concur, I concur. The ending of the finale didn't sit well with me, either.

This (and the prior story) is one of the very few times I am happy to see Discord win.

And Starlight Glimmer continued to scream.

Why you did give her a "mouth"; how generous of you :)

Tiny typo

Discord began walking through the corrdior.


These creatures have just enough sentience to feel love and are psychologically incapable of feeling anything else.

I think "sapience" is more fitting word if thinking/awareness is required and something only sentient like rat or dog is not enough.

If you specify what made you wat, I'll be happy to clarify matters.

Yes, I promised that it wouldn't.

Not in this universe, thankfully. There needs to be quite a lot of excess harmony in the timestream before Discord can safely strand time-slice clones in alternate futures. If there isn't, the side effects would make Starlight's misdeeds pale in comparison.

Hybrid? :rainbowhuh:

Glad I could serve up something enjoyable. :twilightsmile:

No, the only assholes here are the two main characters. :trollestia:

Sort of. Ponies in the alternate future are more Zetas than Epsilons, if they can even be said to be using the same alphabet as their genetic baseline.

Typo fixed, but you've clearly never owned a dog if you don't think they can love.

Even beyond hypothetical scum of the earth? They might as well not exist at that point.

But I get ya.

Honestly, I fail to see how a story that does not contain at least trace amounts of Nikita Khrushchev could be worth anyone's time.

Read the first one, like the sequel. Good job.

Wanderer D


Absolutely justified in ever sense of the word. Starlight Glimmer is perhaps one of the most monstrous characters I've ever seen. And that comes from a lifetime of dark and horror fantasy. Sad part is most people simply just aren't going to understand WHY she is, or know it but explain it away.

I love Changelings and would love to read more about the changeling future. I'm not a fan of insects and don't know much about them, so I can't write a well-thought out changeling society. If they'd dedicate at least one episode on the show to a changeling hive, that would be amazing. It could just be like Slice of Life, but with changelings. Maybe what the drones back at Chrysalis's hive were doing while their queen was attempting to take over Canterlot.

Good story. Discord + changelings + Starlight abuse = fun.:pinkiecrazy:

The following comes to mind with the changeling food factory. :pinkiehappy:

Sick good.
Keep on the good work.

Well that was brutal.

I may or may not have read the title as "A Glazed Cream" when glancing over the feature box. :twilightsheepish:

Story still does not contain Nikita Khrushchev

this offends me

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