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This story is a sequel to A Good Girl Never…


Roseluck has a wonderful fillyfriend, a great job, and a great life.

She's happy with where she's at, but there is one event in her past that still haunts her. At the urging of her fillyfriend, she sets out to make it right.

Primary Cast: Roseluck
Secondary Cast: Applejack, Torchsong, Apple Family.

A/N: I wasn't certain I was going to make this, but as a lot of people pointed out, there were some glaring issues with A Good Girl Never… that I was not happy with. I hope they are sufficiently addressed and sorted out with this fic.

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Comments ( 73 )

You’ve done it again sir. Why am I still awake?

Is this planned to be a multichapter story, or is this it?

4908939
Nope, complete. My bad! I thought I had changed that.

There was no way she could get sick of drinks served in coconuts, right

Lucky for Rose she does not know. The novelty runs out after the second one. :twilightsmile:

Oh, was a nice sequel too. :twilightsmile:

I don't buy Applejack's response for a second. This isn't resolved at all. Not by a long shot. Big Mac and Torch Song need to get them both in a room and hit them with sticks.

Yes, it's out!!:pinkiehappy:

I think a part three is in order. I suggest the tile "Ménage à Trois".

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Hah, somehow I doubt that is going to happen, Tess.

Sorry, you shall have to find your Rose x Applejack x Torchsong clopfic elsewhere :raritywink:

4917879 While that particular phrase carries a sexual implication in the US, in France, the country of it's origin, all it means is a group of three people who are all romantically tied. Its just a name for a trio of lovers.

My ship has sunk harder than the titanic. Excellent job, though.

¡This story has no Interrobangs or Inverted Punctuation! :applecry:

Argh, this can't just be all there is to it!

I'm honestly curious: If Celestia introduced the Element Bearers to the mare she was dating, what would AJ's reaction be?

Yay! Not a nice, clean, and happy ending! I love it!

Sometimes, I find writing something like this is not only hard on the reader as their wishes were not fulfilled, but also the author because you'd like to see a happy-ever-after too. It's like killing off a character you really like, sometimes it's necessary, but part of you still doesn't want to pull the trigger.

well, thats a start to make things up.

And I still want to kill her parents again

I suppose next will be Big Mac's part of the story.

Damn, it's not that it doesn't feel like a good ending. It doesn't feel like an ending. :applejackunsure:
Moar! :yay:

I have some questions:
1. Is Applejack the only lesbian from mane six in this universe?
2. Will she get over Rose?
3. Will you make a shipfic with her and some other mare as a sequel? :twilightblush: please please please

Comment posted by Derpamena deleted Aug 28th, 2014

Torch seems suspicious.... Maybe Applejack can sense if Torch is being truthful with Rose or not...

Sequel??? :pinkiecrazy:

Good, a sequel! Surely this will give me closure!









AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

4918109
Well, if you go by the stories on this site, Celestia's dating Twilight, so she's already made that introduction. :twilightoops:

This isn't an ending at all!! come on!! :flutterrage: :flutterrage: :flutterrage:

D: it was a lovely story, really, nice reading.

This was only a closure for Rose , not for me :applecry:
Damn it ... i loved it anyways

4917992 4918107>>4920221>>4919852
I'm such a heartbreaker, ain't I?

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Yeah, I know that :raritywink: I was just being silly. I was thinking I could write a clop fic along the lines of Torchsong hoofing the two of them. Tentatively titled "Got the music in you."

That is a lie. A terrible lie. :rainbowlaugh:

Sorry to those who were hoping that might be true.



4918109
Lol, yeah, in this story's world, there'd probably be a fair few with problems.

I actually contemplated putting in a bit where Rose was complaining about Celestia's silence on the matter. That by 'staying neutral' in the conversation, she was taciturnly agreeing with the religious ponies. Added to that, Luna calling it something archaic like the love that dare not speak its name exacerbating the situation. But there wasn't really anywhere it fit naturally, and I knew the readers would probably shit a brick over that, as someone as "cool" as Celestia/Luna would never think that way…

I was, when writing that bit, using the real world example of the Dalai Lama in my head. The DL is seen by a lot of westerners as this really cool guy, a man of peace, yadda yadda yadda. It's kind of an eastern romanticism though, as if you've ever read his opinions on sex, and in particular, homosexuality, you'd find he is very much from a previous generation, and holds values indicative of that older generation, motivated by his own religious beliefs.

But yeah, my readers would probably track me down and try to lynch me if I dared something like that.


4918124
Oh yeah, exactly. I knew this wasn't going to be the sequel that people wanted to read, but I felt it was the sequel that logically led from the previous story.

A sunshine and rainbows ending for the two of them would have cheapened the previous story. I wanted this story to end with hope. Hope that AJ might come to terms with herself. That maybe one day, she'd find some form of happiness. Or maybe not. Maybe she'd keep doing the same thing she has been doing.

Sadly, those open ended endings are not overly popular. Lol.


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To answer your questions:
1) Yes. While gay and lesbian ponies exist in this story, they are not as prevalent as other stories, where everyone is gay.
2) I think she is over Rose, as such. The looks she was giving Rose was more jealousy for her freedom… at least in my mind. As this story didn't show AJ's perspective, that was lost in translation.
3) Not likely. I think this story/universe is done with. To give AJ an explicitly happy ending I think would cheapen the first fic.

I'm certainly not averse to any of my readers taking that torch up if they want and writing their own. But for me, yeah, this story line is done, as I am exceptionally happy with it.


4919395
Torch is suspicious? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?


4920093
Hah, I am kind of guilty of adding to that zeitgeist myself.

Comment posted by SP00KY NINJA-PON3 deleted Aug 29th, 2014

4920352 Do you know what powers you are meddling with here?

this whole fucking thing pisses me right the fuck off! why the fuck is roseluck apologizing, when it was Applejack whole fucked the whole thing up!?!? Rose has every right int he world to be angry with her! AJ dumped her, at a funeral, all because she's stupid enough to believe that her parents are watching her from the beyond! this fic is so well written, but it's so wrong! and i dare any of you to reply to this message! i would love to see how you can say that Roseluck was in the wrong.

4920422 Have you ever been in a relationship with someone who went through a really tough time? I'm guessing no.

4920422
She was apologising for hitting a victim of domestic abuse. Regardless of the circumstances, she struck someone she purportedly loved.

4920436 actually i have. twice. that's why i'm so pissed at this story! when you go through a tough time, especially something like this, you don't push the people who can comfort you away! especially when you gave up so much for them, just so you and them could be happy. both times my girlfriends went through their respective rough patches in life, they tossed me and everyone else they cared about aside, and more or less retreated from the world. both times, with the help of friends and family, i managed to eventually get them stable again. and both times, they cut all ties with me, and went after someone they thought would make them happy. i take a very petty, but no less very large, amount of pleasure in the fact that they made themselves miserable because they tried to make themselves into something that they weren't.

maybe that makes me a bad person, but anyone who's been through this, or something like this, will side with me.

4920464 and where's applejacks apology? she might not pretend it never happened-in fact it's mentioned that she's constantly looking at Roseluck in a way that upsets her. whether it's a look of want, pity, or something else, i don't know-but she never ponied up and did anything to fix a serious situation that she caused. the fact that the pony who was wronged in this whole thing has to apologize first says that applejack is not a very smart, brave, or dependable pony in this story.

4920468 People will almost always push others away in their grief, it's a pretty natural reaction to want to be alone to mourn. As a lover it's your duty to be by their side during this time to help them through, not hit them and scream, not run away and never see them again.

What AJ did WAS wrong, but Roseluck's reaction was equally wrong. Even if you disagree with me on this you need to understand that even if it's entirely their fault, (pro tip: it almost never is) coming into a conversation being combative and abrasive is only going to lead to an argument, or even a fight, and create more heartbreak for both involved. Roseluck was apologizing for hurting Applejack's feelings, which a rather mature, adult, thing to do.

Edit: I've likewise been through these types of situations, from both sides.

4920572 and like i told the author, i agree with that. what i don't agree with is the fact that AJ caused the whole thing, and yet she never tried to apologize for hurting Roseluck like she did. not once. apparently all she did was give Roseluck these looks in the market that pissed her off. it is my opinion that since it was AJ who caused the whole thing, then it should have been AJ who ponied up and apologized. even if they never got back together, she still should have been the one to bury the hatchet.

and this whole thing is over what she did. don't even get me started on the why.

4920613 But that's not who AJ is. She's a stubborn, unrepentant, bitch.

4920655 and yet she's made out to be anything but that. that's why i'm mad.

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Just to point out… AJ broke up with Rose. She didn't push her away, or cut her out of her life.

Rose was the one who did that.

Rose was the one who hit AJ, then ran.

So, in this instance, it is unlike your situation 4920613, as in your situation, your ex was the one who pushed you, and many others away.

In this story, it was Rose, in her hurt, who pushed AJ away.

Even after a breakup, which is well within AJ's rights, regardless of the reasons why, Rose—in her hurt—chose to run away, rather than, say stay as a friend, help the pony she supposedly loved through a traumatic time in her life.

That is a very teen reaction to a situation. In an ideal, mature, adult situation, Rose would have stuck around and tried to help, or wanted to help, regardless of whether it would end up in another relationship or not. From the sounds of your situation, you wanted to stick by your ex and help. If it was for more than a chance to get back together, then that is a very mature and adult thing to do.

Rose did not. I have tried to get across the point in this story that Rose was a teenager, and had a teenagers view on the world. Multiple times she mentioned that AJ was the mare of her dreams, and how she was the mare she was going to marry, etc. These are the views of someone very young and very naive.

And when those things didn't go her way, she ran. It was her choice to cut AJ out of her life, rather than the other way around, as many readers seem to think.

I liked this ending rather than some cliche "they get back together" one. Everything is wrapped up in a nice bow. Everyone's happy...more or less.

Though , I would like to see...an Applejack... not like in "A good girl never..." but something that shows Aj's POV of things. Some of the events after the deaths, aj's opinions, perhaps even some failed attempts at "right" relationships, and maybe even an awkward lunch scene.

Alas, that's probably just me.

Hey I have an idea. Can you give us an AU of if AJ's parents didn't die plz?:fluttershysad::fluttershysad::fluttershysad:

4920815 As little as I enjoy criticizing author's on the plot of their own story, the case here is( From an outsiders perspective. ) that Applejack broke up first due to depression.

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True, but the point that was being made was that Rose was the one who decide to cut AJ out of her life.

AJ said they couldnt do this anymore. Not, you need to get out of my life.

The original criticism was that AJ needed to apologize for cutting Rose out of her life, where that wasn't what actually happened.

4922887 They both cut eachother out of their own lives, and no one dared to bring the ductape.

4922887

Except would that really happen?

AJ was now following her parent's beliefs to the core because she felt they were watching down upon her.

She might have started growing worse and actively becoming a horrific bigot like they were if she was that willing to cut her out, would someone really want that in their life? Rose even noted the looks she kept giving her.

Great second installment:twilightsmile:

It's nice to see they have made up after all these years. Of course the question is: how did AJ's parents meet their demise? I know they were antagonistic, but it would be quite a useful fact. Unless it's one of those things where the reader has to think it out themselves:twilightsheepish:.

This is the filly I was going to marry one day!

You use two different tenses here. In this case, it is a past tense in regards to a present tense. It is also in flashback, which means either filly Roseluck could be thinking, or adult Roseluck could be explaining.
If adult roseluck is explaining, the sentence has to contain at least one past tence. In this sentence, she is saying that this "filly", the idea of applejack as a filly, is currently the filly she was, but is not now, going to marry. If this is the case, this sentence expresses the idea that Roseluck is shocked, appalled, or otherwise surprised enough to place an exclamation mark on a sentence where she points out that she had once intended to marry applejack. Since I don't think Roseluck finds applejack to be a bad choice as a fillyfriend, such shock doesn't make much sense.
If filly Roseluck is thinking, this would mean that there is no past tense, which would make this sentence simply wrong. The sentence would have to say, "This is the filly I am going to marry one day!"
If adult Roseluck is simply expressing her, now dead, love for applejack, she would have to say that Applejack was the filly she was going to marry one day, since that would mean that "Applejack being the filly" and "planning to marry" could happen in the same time frame, which means that the exclamatory "!" can't be in reference to the foolishness of choosing applejack, since the end of the relationship is not mentioned.

Now, keep in mind, the meanings of all of these sentences change if applejack actually does marry Roseluck, since the reader has to guess as to why, exactly, Roseluck would be exclaiming(using a "!")


Paragraphs separate ideas. In dialog between two characters, generally paragraphs are separating the ideas of "Character 1 said" and "Character 2 said".
When you separated these two pragraphs, I thought Roseluck was talking for a minute and had to put forth some effort to figure out what you were saying. This kind of confusion needs to be avoided.
However, if you just remove the paragraph keys...

“The two of you… you didn’t just lose a marefriend that day.” Torchsong nuzzled Roseluck. “You both lost your best friend. Big Mac is a good friend of mine, there will be times when you won’t be able to avoid her. So please, for me, would you try and make up with her?”

It seems like she suddenly switches topics in the middle of talking. This is what she does, but she would likely have paused for a moment. This could be stated explicitly

“The two of you… you didn’t just lose a marefriend that day.” Torchsong nuzzled Roseluck. “You both lost your best friend... Big Mac is a good friend of mine, there will be times when you won’t be able to avoid her. So please, for me, would you try and make up with her?”
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“The two of you… you didn’t just lose a marefriend that day.” Torchsong nuzzled Roseluck. “You both lost your best friend." Torchsong was silent for a moment, as if unsure how to continue. "Big Mac is a good friend of mine, there will be times when you won’t be able to avoid her. So please, for me, would you try and make up with her?”

Or, if you wanted to be subtle instead of blunt, which I think you do, you could simply put some description in-between in order to imply that time passes.
Something like:

“The two of you… you didn’t just lose a marefriend that day.” Torchsong nuzzled Roseluck. “You both lost your best friend." Torchsong was warm and comforting against her. "Big Mac is a good friend of mine, there will be times when you won’t be able to avoid her. So please, for me, would you try and make up with her?”

I'm glad the two of them sorted things out, and I'm on board with the rest of the story. It's just sad that Applejack is doomed to drift in a sexual no-mans land whist being ravaged throughout by biological imperatives such as estrus.

Geez life sucks and then you die! Poor AJ! :raritycry:

If you do make a third story based on this I hope you send her to a shrink or get her a woman or something! Just don't leave best pony hanging like that! :raritydespair:

(yeah, yeah, best pony is only like, my opinion man.)

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Lol, Applejack is second best pony for me, these days. Season four bumped her up four spots on my list.

I don't see this story needing any more. There are other things in this verse I might explore, for example, Carrot and Cup, and how they got together (but mostly cause I really liked Cup o'Koffee), and I might do a non-related Torchsong/Roseluck story, cause Torchsong deserves more love!

But this story is pretty much done for me. :twilightsheepish:

4931797 Ah well. Buggers can't be choosers eh? :twilightsmile: Season 4 was huge for AJ. I think I've had every pony except Pinkie Pie as my favorite at one point. When "Simple Ways" hit the horse race was freakin' over! Competition annihilated. :pinkiecrazy:

The episode itself was not very good. Kind of bad actually (all except the Applejewel thing anyway), but I walked away from it with the realization that no matter how bad or good the episode is Applejack herself achieves average to awesome levels regardless of season or writer or whoever is in charge. Even "Feeling Pinkie Keen" didn't manage to assassinate her character, and that episode is the fourth leading cause of cancer!

I could watch the show if she was the only one of the Mane Six in it. I can't say that about any other character. Okay I've fanboyed enough I'm sorry. I'm giving this story a like. Good job!

The writing is pretty good, just like the last one, but I'm still missing a proper resolution here - that ending was far too weak in my opinion.There's no character growth.
Also, shouldn't Rose be the one forgiving AJ?


4917996 It's not Spanish we're speaking (and interrobangs are dumb).

I loved everything in this. Even simple things like casual chatter at the dinner table was interesting to follow, or maybe I'd say especially since it gives some more insight to the parents and shows them as not monsters but actually good people with some bad ideas.

The ending was very open ended, but it does provide a positive change, however small it may be.
That strikes me as a good thing. It feels like a slow and careful start of something, even if it is the end of the story, it's not the end of the story.
It's a shame we will never get to see it though.

She drew me muzzle towards her’s

My* ?
Though I would also accept this being a country thing. ^.~

Applejack replied, finally a bag to pack the apples into.

Finding* ?

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