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Not entirely shocked. Zecora was pretty shifty this whole time. Twilight should have pressed for more info, though; like what's really going on, or any info, really. Strange that all her converted friends let her go, but Shining Armor and family wouldn't. Like there's some disconnect or separate factions.
Also, Twilight was unconscious again. More opportunity for Luna to have appeared or shenanigans to have occurred.
I'm sorry, but downvoted and unfavorited. Maybe I'll stop by occasionally, it's not that this chapter is particularly bad, it's just I'm tired of it at this point. The mystery isn't doing enough to keep any interest and you've got Twilight showing less and less resistance as I'm getting to the point she'd just kill em all
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It's definitely not for everypony.
I'm sure there will be more ragequits as we progress, if only because different readers want very different (and incompatible) things to happen. But the story is what it is, and it isn't written to meet popular demand.
The order is cool with masturbating babies to sleep, Twilight, what the hell makes you think the crusaders are safe?!
Congrats on having morals, but from a tactical standpoint that was a bad move Zecora.
So are the Zebras behind this then? Seen that too.
I'll let the logical fallacy slip considering her situation.
Though to be honest unless she can go through the mirror portal, drag out her human friends and somehow get them to use the elements I'm running out of ideas on how she can win if at all.
By Spike! Good luck with the sexually activated and for the order zebra!
"Just one break, just ONE is all I'm asking here!"
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Edit: Waiiiiiiiit a minute.....that potion recipe.....OH FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK! I thought that was just Rarity trolling Twilight, holy shit how did that not click?!?!
Hot damn I love this story! Twilight's slow decline is masterfully written!
Well, that seems obvious in hindsight. Still, I have to admit, I'm as blindsided as Twilight was. At least, until the blue tea. Kind of a tipoff there.
As for the white text... Well, that would certainly explain a few things. Still, Twilight probably isn't going to abandon it. Not unless the story will shift perspectives soon.
Also, it looks like she abandoned Spike. She's almost certainly going to regret that.
I think it should be "Spike nodded and, after stuffing three cupcakes into his mouth at once, he left through the balcony exit." because "Spike nodded he left through the balcony exit." is wrong.
Otherwise, the chapter feels a little aborted. If they keep coming quickly, I don't mind.
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Here Here darling. Here here indeed. Valid point, well spoken!
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I voted this down because while I agree with it in principle, there is no tragedy marker here. the expectation is that twilight will get a good end of some kind (Ie not give up and just be enslaved to their will). It's a thriller, a horror, and a mystery. If you end up with an ending where twilight simply utterly loses, becoming the very thing she fought against, then you can't really hide behind author and artistic liscence. It'd be like putting happy tree friends in the ages 3-6 category just because of the animals.
7270294 I see no reason to assume Twilight has the book. To me this is obviously previously written being read by another
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This is a fair point, but I'm not entirely sure how to handle it.
I don't like putting a Tragedy tag on long works because it seems like too much of a spoiler. I agree the tag is probably expected if Twilight's efforts don't cause everything to do a complete one-eighty (even if there's a compromise at the end it's technically a Tragedy because most of her efforts were wasted). I'm just not sure about whether putting it up will leave ponies with the wrong expectations, and thus hurt more than it helps.
If I do add that tag, I'll need to remove one of the other tags due to tag limits.
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I don't think it's one of Zecora's potions; it's just simulated hoofgoo.
(Zecora already knew how to brew poison joke.)
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hang on... are you saying that drink recipe is the key to the little blurbs that have been appearing at the end of the chapter every now & then?
7272066 Who knows? I was just saying potion recipe for vampires -> Zecora makes potions -> The card was left for Zecora.
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>a compramise
isn't a tragedy, that's character development, but it is still a fine line to walk, particularly when a compromise too far not in her favor could seem like a loss anyway. I don't think a tradgedy is too much of a spoiler. A tradgedy could easily be twilight also being a victor. The aspect of tradgedy from victory comes when you examine the idea of a phyric victory. If twilight prevailed but at the cost of all of her friends lives that would still be a tradgedy. A compromise where twilight's victory is essentially meaningless is also phyric.
In a normal story we accept that the hero is probably going to win without a tradgedy marker, we stay along the ride wondering how. with that in mind, I can't see tradgedy being a spoiler either. People who like tragedy will read to see how the hero finally breaks, what kind of monster they become or end they receive for their efforts.
If twilight somehow stopped the pony vampirism outbreak and the brain box shenanigans, or declawed it into a direct religion that requried real consent, I could consider the ending not a tradgedy, even if she ended up belonging to someone at the end. If twilight completely curbed the vampire efforts, restored celestia, and ameliorated the sexual repression conflict in equestria, even if she still ended up on the collar end of a leash, I would even consider that a total victory, despite the fact that twilight's situation would mean she could have never really consented in the time period offered given the abuses laid on her so far.
I hope all thats illuminating in some way, or helpful.
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I think (as I just posted a blog about) the Tragedy tag is probably appropriate here just due to the nature of the struggle itself.
That is why I have decided to swap it in. The ending may not be clear as of yet, but the message of the story isn't about Twilight causing her circumstances to do a full one-eighty.
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7273416 I must disagree. This fanfic is as a whole my favorite fic on this site!
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And how exactly do you study what may or may not be a huge conspiracy, probably is forbidden or repressed knowledge, but definitely is extremely taboo and not widely known? There is no neutral baseline population to study. Barring maybe time travel and/or a trip to Zebracia.
I'm going to hold off my re-read until all the rewrites are done.
7274857 I wouldn't even say it sucks anymore. Now I just plain love this story.
7275031 Have sex, take notes. Field work is sometimes necessary in these kinds of things.
7275427 how are you reading this story, but able to miss such a forced innuendo?
7276896 I haven't been stoned yet :)
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Amen to that. Although I would say it's a land of the blind one eyed man situation.
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Which, unless Lex Regina is in play, would end up being much more illegal than Twilight even originally thought- and she thought it was pretty damn illegal.
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It wouldn't be an inconceivable twist, but it opens up potential plot holes involving the ounckse.
Speaking of which, where did the word ounckse come from? It seems a strange, ungoogleable term. I think the correct term would be chamfrein alicorn, although my knowledge of barding is far from comprehensive... There is an awful lot of overlap between bondage and barding, isn't there?
7278219 Considering that Pony Play has roots in the Elder Guard, yeah there is ALOT in common between tack and kit.
7273440 Oh, I wasn't aware of that. Well then, apologies.
7277438 Lex Regina? Also Twilight's against the censorship of science and information. She's established that as part of her character whenever it's come up. She'd probably end up doing it anyway.
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Lex Regina (Rex est Lex, aka. lex animata) is a...rather complicated medieval legal concept. The short of it in this context means: Is Twilight effectively above the law because she's a princess? If she is, then yes she can go ahead and do it. If she's not, then her only legal recourse would be to try to work with Celestia to lax the law for science and that's not likely to be fruitful. Illegal science is wasted.
7278719 Well the original intent from which this has sprung was that she doesn't know if she's still screwed up when it comes to sex and sexual knowledge. Personal research, even illegal, would still benefit her on this front.
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Maybe she'll get there, if she's ever not on the run long enough to get her marbles together. Assuming she hasn't lost them to the box altogether by then.
7278978 Who knows? Perhaps she's already lost some of them already and the repeated exposures will just add up over time?
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That seems probable.
Of course, if we ever do get a clear and unambiguous answer to what is going on that has its own problems. Unless the author has done her own highly illegal research, any answer she provides would simply be the pet theory. If its right, we get one of those weirdly predictive bits of fiction. If wrong, then the story is doomed to zeerust.
7279221 Well she's pretty much set up to fail with a deck so spectacularly stacked against her, so even if she hasn't lost any of her marbles yet let's face it, she will.
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You were right about it being a mistake, though, so I appreciate you pointing it out.
I have just realized, there is actually no reliabity in this story. Twilight is confused and manipulated. There's a conspiracy that may not be entirely what it seems, there's someone claiming the book is a lie. There's no way to judge it because at this point there is no solid foundation
and frankly the sex is starting to just seem like a side effect of total insanity
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It's easy to overweight the whitetext claims. So far only one specific thing was mentioned as a falsehood, and it was minor.
Either way, I've been pulling back on the shenanigans for the past several chapters—peak shenanigans have already been reached, because the story would be random without a factual basis.
7283332 but the things that happened in the past several chapters were based on the shenanigans of the previous chapters
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The last one actually works against your point. Trepanning is a valid medical procedure still performed today. Granted, it's no longer used nor effective for mental disorders (which they did believe was caused by demons at one point) because anesthetic and the decline in brutality toward the mentally ill has obsoleted it. The procedure itself is still sound, however.
Also, 3 more journal-days left for editing before starting a reread. Damn you, write faster.
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Sorry, I'm in the middle of a Writeoff. I'll be back to fixin' entries in a few days.
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Using writing as an excuse for not writing? You cheater, do something lazy so we can yell at you properly.
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Actually, it's reading that's the holdup. It's very hard for me to read, and forcing myself to read contest entries is the main reason I participate in the Writeoffs.
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Next you'll tell us it's to help orphans.
7283572 Well if a doctor ever comes near my skull with a hammer and chisel I'll be sure to feel safe :) But yeah, I get what you're saying.
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Your spoiler is not working with that link.
That's rather their thesis. Culturally, there's a large range of successful cultures that are more lax on sex (although this is often an orange and blue issue) and more strict on violence. Japan had to be pressured into banning child porn, which apparently they didn't consider pornography. Age of consent has historically ranged from a low of 7 to a high of 30- although that was an unintended legal interaction, I think. Excepting the mind control, Team Creepy's thesis is plausible, if only for the lack of evidence.
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When was the last time any society had a rational, calm discussion about sexuality and sexual mores? I half find the vampire apocalypse less unrealistic.
7289822 Huh, for some reason I didn't get notified about this response.
Fair enough about the link, but I can't be assed to go back and fix it.
As for the sitting down and discussing things, I was thinking more along the lines of the dinner scene just with more rational discussions and less Twilight diving headfirst into emotional responses and strawmen while breakdancing in a minefield.
Let's face it though, she might be book smart but otherwise she's a brain damaged child beyond, at times, the realms of believability. She's also a lost cause at this point with how badly she privately wishes to fall to the order, so I don't think she can really be expected to last much longer anyway.
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I think that version of the dinner scene would be interesting. Just get everypony in a room, talk it over in an adult fashion. Then again, at this point you'd need to get the CMC/foals in on the conversation. As much as that would be a neat literary symmetry, I just don't see that realistically happening. It's like getting your family together to talk about literally the pros of pedophilia and bestiality. It's not something that would ever happen. Maybe Twilight is far gone enough to force it. I can't imagine how that ends up working out.
Honestly, Twilight being this far gone is kinda an argument for her not breaking. If she has the fortitude to last this long and not just ask Pinkie to convert her as soon as she returned from Big Mac's (or is it cousin Orchard Blossom s?) No, Twilight is going to keep going until she feels it's over. If she's broken, that's just going to make her more persistent.
7312858 Simply talking things out as "rational" adults would simply be the more mature thing to do all in all. Less strife, less dirty tricks(Rarity I'm looking at you) and, admittedly though, less plot. Poor Communication Kills is one of my least favorite tropes but I at least understand the necessity for it as far as the plot is concerned. Whether or not it's realistic is another thing. It might not be the more likely of scenarios, but it would ultimately be better for all involved. At least that's how I see it.
As for Twilight, we'll just have to see. There's apparently gonna be more stories to this world, so it might not end with this fic, or this fic might end with Twilights conversion and the next story following someone else. We can't know for sure until it happens.
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Not sure if I got it entirely right, but for the heck of it I decided to Orderify my oc.
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Heh, cute.
I think the earrings Twilight wears are on the lower portion of the ear so the ears won't flop downward, and if they're copper they'd look solid copper.