Oh my...

Hype .

I can just picture Twilight obessively noting down every terrifying detail, because let's face it, that one is a prisoner in her oversized, brilliant, neurotic brain.

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Nice summary of them, though of course the actual questions remain unanswered; no explanation of the brain removal, why they feel they're right to take over via force, or anything to back up their insistence that anyone they explained it all to would agree but screw explaining things to anyone its rapetime.

<<(Glossary of the Order)>>

I'm dead(again) you've killed me with squee.

(That was sarcasm.)

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(like a Wonderbolt performing)

So Rainbow Dash could still join the Wonderbolts all things considered. Phew, that was one of my worries.

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This technique is taught to Masters, and only Masters are permitted to use it.

Yes, because everyone having firm control to prevent accidentally transforming if say Twilight were to find some way to remove the baubles from a pony to distract them long enough to escape or something wouldn't help anyone. Seriously, I know The Order is taking more than a few cues from BDSM D/s stuff but c'mon, at some point you're gonna have to think more tactically than that.

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I'm afraid to ask more about this at the moment. I just don't want to know.

Which, unfortunately for me, is one of my biggest questions.

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None of the other legends about them are true.

Yes, because Celestia forbid they should have any of those very useful and exploitable weaknesses. Do they sparkle too?

Oh wait, Fractals.

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Edit: On further reading, it appears that Rarity is in Canterlot now.

Nice filler, I love this story so much!

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is...is that batman with a green lantern ring? That's Squirrel Girl levels of OP.

Also, I forgot to mention Twi, a bifurcated sleep scheduled is totally possible.

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7950105 Yes, yes it is and it is delicious. I'm eagerly awaiting the conversation to follow. What do you think? Does she converse with them rationally or do you think she'll throw a fit and escape again?

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Of course this doesn't get resolved rationally yet. So far Twilight's developed foalcon, polyamory, gender bending pansexuality, incest, extreme bdsm, and she's slept with three of her friends. She only has two more friends to go to develop bestiality, raunch/scat/watersports, and necrophilia. (I think that's all the taboo/illegal kinks? Am I missing something?) Then everypony can put away the idiot ball.

Actually, necrophilia might be hard. When time travel shenanigans come in then it's always possible that no one died. After all, it's only possible for things to go bad to the limit of how much of a pain it is to retroactively fix things. let's call it the Time Lord limit or something. death is usually past the point, but any arbitrary amount of bad that works out in the end can be under it.

7950697 Diapers, Ageplay, guro(gore), exhibitionism, Count of Monte Christo cosplay, tentacles, actual rape fetish etc.

I don't notice any major changes in the glossary?

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The largest changes are in the larger entries and/or the more important entries (like vampony, the wolf, etc.).

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...although there are other modest changes in various places, mostly additional material. Sorry!

You'll just need to be obsessive and read and reread it until you feel lightheaded and need a nap. A calm, peaceful, restful nap in your home where you are completely safe and secure...

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The blood stuff or was there more emphasis on lack of rationality? I find it weird there's this emphasis on the lack of control when they explicitly prevent the control technique from being taught or widely used. If anything it seems like more reasons they shouldn't run things... yet they insist on it being NECESSARY that things change to suit them? Hell, even the blood thing just adds a logistics problem to society.

Sometimes I worry this is a half baked metaphor for gay rights :|

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Read and read and read and read until our minds are dulled enough for your subtle hypnotism you mean!

B-b-but what if we don't want to be safe? What if we wanna be corrupted by the order until we're wild sex crazed vampire Masters, Mistresses, Ladies, Gents, and cunts?

We're onto you, you crafty manipulator you!

I like these changes, these are good changes. Like finally a glimpse of a fighting chance changes.

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There may be a metaphor at play, but it isn't about civil rights.

So between the glossary fleshing out the culture, defining The Order explicitly, and us getting an explanation for the journal warnings I see less likelihood for a lot of the more omnipresent explanations like a memetic force (though it's not ruled out).

Now the big issue is the Order's goals and formulation. Where did it come from? Why does everyone insist they are in the right and that their super secret motivations are very rational but so secret that brainwashing is preferable. WTF is the brain thing? Or the horn thing? How did Fluttershy + Night wings = horn secret + bdsm cult!?

Actually nevermind on horn secret revelation for the cult: That's clearly because of the Crystal Empire time warp.

But anyway, it's just so frustrating trying to imagine anything that could justify all this and coming up blank. I'll be quite mad if "they weren't thinking clearly" is an excuse for hiding something legit, but I again all available evidence says they are simply not to be trusted on this; evidence and gut and circumstances all say they're lying liars who lie (or are mind controlled into doing believing lies), and honestly that's what's so frustrating: Twilight never calls them on it and never follows through when they wave her off with the same apparent lies. The glossary implies she doesn't WANT to know about the brain thing, and if Twilight isn't even trying then she's once more just a narrator/scribe passed around and raped occasionally until the rapists decide to merely imprison her. I'm not sure Twilight has even slowed them down; will they be running the country before she even learns what's happening?

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Here's another important question: Why are the mutated bat pony offshoots talking about letting out the wolf?

Also... I wonder what the secret behind the Breakstone is. Perhaps it's used to lock a pony into their respective rank? It would make sense, wouldn't it? First they use some magic to "reap" them, i.e. determine their future rank in Pervtopia, then they use the lobotorock to destroy the part of the brain that might lead a pony to ever become dissatisfied with their lot. That would lead to lifelong contentment, at the cots of personal growth.

And while I think it makes sense, something tells me that's not it.

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Wolf might refer to the transformations resembling lycanthropy.

They call the thing removed "the stain", and this far it appears to be mostly related to inhibitions. Luna says it's not what it appears, but of course she does; their MO seems to be walking up to you with a knife and insisting they have a good reason to stab you and it's so tragic you're resisting (and that's only if you spot them creeping up, they only pretend to have an explanation when they get caught)

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I think rape, guro, and exhibitionism are totally covered. (At least by the order in general. ) Roleplay's probably too. Let's try not to be too nitpicky on the subcategories, lest we get into a fetish fail massacre.

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I suspect that Twilight's understanding of the technique is flawed. Most likely only dominants *can* learn the technique, and the Order just doesn't want to unleash a horde of dangerous, untrained and half trained vamponies out on Equestria to recreate all the messed up parts of Star Wars. So they're being overly cautious about maybes/switches.

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or at least not just civil rights.

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It's gotten convoluted to the point that a reasonable explanation for all the character's actions seems unlikely. Previously, before the re-writes, Celestia was much more accidentally genocidal in a way that could be well explained by middle management fuckery. That made this all being a sitcom level comedy of errors with a thousand years of compound interest plausible. I still have hope that the big reveal will be satisfying and plothole free. Or if not the big reveal, at least the final accounting of things.

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In response to that last bit.

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Well after that I can assume that Fluttershy is NOT in charge of the Crystal Empire. She can't be if she is a Lost One (Copper Babbles) unless she has changed rank. She can't be in charge of any vamponies independently. (can only control other Lost Ones or lower and that's only if a Master/Lady is around.) Which explains why Fluttershy has so much time to spend with Celestia. She's probably being led around and told what to do. Basically an empty figurehead and nothing more. I'm wondering if she also was the one that argued that Twilight should have been told up front about The Order and this is punishment. Ether that or they're actively trying to keep her away from Twilight for some reason. Maybe she can be reasoned with.

So after AJ gets found I'm going to assume that The climax will be in the Crystal Empire when Twilight, AJ and RD go and try and rescue Celestia. I, now, highly doubt that Fluttershy is going to put up an effective fight or any for that matter.

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I highly doubt Applejack will be of much help to them at this point. She's been in Team Creepy's clutches for days now, and she's been infected even longer. AJ is strong, but those are impossible odds.

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Hmm. Wasn't there something about Granny Smith looking younger? What if the secret is that full vamponies are immortal, and Celestia and Luna have been vamponies from the time they battled Sombra?

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Well, time travel without immortality is doing it wrong.

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I beg to differ.

7952164 Don't cross immortality and reproduction, it's a bad fit and you won't want any part of it.

hold the wolf: to let the wolf out without losing control of one's mind. This technique is taught to Masters, and only Masters are permitted to use it. This also allows the Master to block the wolf at will.

So I guess you can't just hold it back through strong willpower or what have you.

(dammit, Spike).

Spike's compromised, calling it now.

Middle Management: the rank of a vampony who is owned by a Master, but may also own lost ones

(and hopefully, never like Princess Twilight Sparkle).

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Because they haven't yet been turned, they lack the weaknesses of adult vamponies.

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I'm definitely more afraid the story will reveal that the cult is in the right somehow than I am of actually horrible events happening to Twilight at this point.

7956050 Yes, but will they be in the right for actual good points, or will they be in the right because the story and author say so? Only time shall tell.

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I've been hoping that they're both in the right, and the real villain is Blueblood III. That doesn't seem likely with the rewrite, and the contrite face the cult is putting on at the moment.

7956179 When did Blueblood ever factor into this story? Like at all?

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Oh, he's in there.

7956593 Barely, and not in the sense indicated. Still, thanks for the reminder that he does exist in the story.

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That Blueblood is Blueblood the 42nd, approximately. I was talking about a distant ancestor. Before the re-write, Applejack said that her brother had problems due to the Puritan laws, as well as Shining saying so about his guards. Celestia, however, had said that there hadn't been a complaint about them in over a generation. Maybe I missed it in the re-read, but that little plot point seems to have been edited out.

While on the market, no permission is necessary for Masters or Ladies to control them

So when somepony's on the market their consent doesn't matter all that much? Any Master or Lady(with permission from their Master) can control a lost one regardless? Sounds...fairsarcasm

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There might be two new additions to the Glossary.

(Expect errors to continue. It's super-hard transcribing all this crap from audio-based memory.)

Mudblood has a strong flavor similar to cinnamon, lime, and MSG,

Wait so dose that mean it has a small chance to cause cancer (look it up if you live under a rock)

3rd full viewing

aconitum:

I wonder if it's possible to make an aconitum based perfume and if that would work.

(Sorry, I will NOT list my suggested name here—I still have my dignity intact, for now.

Twilust Spankle?

So, what exactly is the naming convention for nicknames? Because for the most part they seem sex based. But then you have Preydance and Despairity.

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Looks like goth and/or sex for dicknames.