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"Gold for the merchant, silver for the maid / Copper for the craftsman, cunning in his trade / 'Good', laughed the Baron, sitting in his hall / But iron - cold iron - shall be the master of them all."


Night and day. Fire and ice. Creation and destruction. Everything has an opposite, and Chaos is no exception. Princess Celestia tells Twilight the true history of Discord's rise, the Alicorns' fall, and the creation of the Elements of Harmony.

She tells her student the story of Order and Chaos.

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Great read! I always enjoy a piece about opposites, which is why I particularly like Discord and Chaos. I already know that Order will be, putting it lightly, unforgiving. :twilightsmile:

fantastic story and I can't wait to see where this goes.

I absolutely love this. All the little things that make sense, or are just fun, like the fact there used to be humans, and that alicorn becoming a certain earth pony :derpytongue2:

Great story, but I'm still waiting for you to update your others. I do want to see how this turns out, though, and hope you'll actually get it up soon.

I have to agree with you. Humans and that certain earth pony. Him having been an alicorn would explain a few things.

Without humans being mentionned; this would have been a better story but ow well.

Another very well written story, I can't wait for part 2. :twilightsmile:

I thoroughly enjoyed your other stories, but I can't get myself to like this one. Maybe if all of these ideas had been hinted at throughout a long story where the goal was finding out the real past, but even then it seems silly. Lot's of new Alicorns, Discord is actually Celestias older brother, sudden super powerful manifestations of pure order and chaos... I couldn't take it seriously at all and it felt more like a farce than anything else.

But, you can't please everyone. If you had to get it out you had to, I'm still looking forward to your other updates anyway :).

Great read! I'm hooked! Several comments below:

1. I love how it ended with benign look on Order whereas you had Celestia pass judgement on its inequity. I can almost sense a plot development ending with his brother embodying Chaos somehow to try to combat Order.

2. Humans? Really? As the embodiment of chaos? SERIOUSLY? Even with the way history shows us to try to create order where little or none exists (religious explanations, forming of societies, dictatorships, etc. etc.). Indeed, much of life is a fight against entropy and disorder. It almost feels dragged in, which brings me to the third point:

3. I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR. I love how you managed to seamlessly weave it several meme elements without disrupting story flow or jilting it and making it forced. (It did for me, because as soon as I noticed the trend, I felt obsessively compelled to document them...the second readthrough, though, was smooth). You impressively included:
A. Canon/Fanon references - (more mundane, I know): Dr. Whooves - I will never see that pony again without "spited alicorn" popping up in the back of my mind... Discord as Celestia's family member...explanation for Discord's acknowledgement and approval of Laughter...and even explaining away creator mistake on the permutation of color from Elements of Harmony history book edition vs. Twilight Sparkle&Co. edition!
B. Lord of the Ring reference - Come on... tall, green mane/tail, and brown coat = "the Ent"? seeing as Ents were solely the creation of Tolkien having no previous association.
C. Captain Planet reference - I only recognized this one because I had internally compared MLP Elements of Harmony with Cpt. Planet's logistical workings before. It's nearly word for word, so can't be denied as accidental. It fits the parallel structure nicely. "[Name of the individual elements]...By [y]our powers combined I am [the Element of Magic/Captain Planet]".
D. Unknown reference - It sounds so very familiar! I almost want to say it's from Battlestar Galatica, but I'm not sure. It's possible that your usage of finality drama (eg. you shalt not pass), the magical number three in listing, and the powerful literary/rhetorical device of parallelism, is causing my befuddlement and thinking it's somehow familiar: "By the Moon, the Sun and the Earth, you have no place here, Chaos. So say I, so say we, so say the powers of Harmony"

This story has an excellent opening, I'm eager to read the next one! :twilightsmile:

Well written story.
Not my preferred fanon for Discord nor Alicorns but it's all fanon so I can't exactly complain.

Cool! I was wondering what Daearen was going to look like! :pinkiehappy:

Extremely well written!

nice story man love your work as always :pinkiehappy::yay:

WTF? when I posted that I came back and it was first and now it isnt.....I DETECT SORCERY!

Chaos. Order. Without one the other cannot exist. But only through the balance of the two can Harmony truly be...
This is an awesome story so far. I am looking forward to the next one, as I've wanted to see a story about Discord once being an Alicorn (I lack the literary skill to do it myself.)
Also. Daearen=Cool name. I might borrow that for my next RPG character or something...

There are too many radical ideas tossed about too casually. I feel the story could've used some introspective discussion developing the relations and reactions of the characters, but it all just moves so quickly.

Your characterization of Daearen makes him really likeable. If he were a human, I'd certainly like to hang out with him.

:flutterrage:MOAR NOW:flutterrage:

i-if you're not too busy:fluttershyouch:

This is quite intreging good sir. I eagerly await part two.

434029Looks like Tedective beat you to it.LOL!

Curse you, bittersweet endings!

I've been waiting for this chapter ever since the first, and I must say it was worth it! This might become my new head-cannon!

Discord laser ftw!:pinkiehappy: I can't wait to see where this story ends up going. Keep it up!

I wanted to see more how Daeren's personality eventually changed to fit canon Discord, but regardless, this second chapter was still worth wait.

You know, I was wondering how you'd manage to pull off a fic that was both dark and funny, but you did it excellently, I was genuinely laughing my head off at some points.

I guess the addition of a character like Discord makes your job a lot easier. :derpytongue2:

I don't wether to laugh at that AMAZING reference, or cry about the end. Awesome story. :heart:621333 Uh, you do realize that this was a two part story? And we went throught two parts?


I made a blog post, but I guess I need to include something in the story as well.
There are actually going to be three chapters. I hit ten thousand words on this one and realized I was nowhere near done. So it will be finished in a far less bittersweet fashion in part three, tentatively called: 'When Hope is Lost'.

621877 It was:rainbowhuh:? Huh. I guess I didn't get the memo.:twilightblush:

Wonderful. Dae's actions mirrored the predictably unpredictable actions one would expect from Discord.
“I don’t know why, but for some reason I’ve got this crazy urge to yell, ‘I’m a firin’ mah lazer'-" <------ Hilarious

I think you captured the very essence of Chaos in words perfectly. Same goes for how you described Order.
I also liked the lazer reference.:rainbowlaugh:

I Like this fanfic :pinkiecrazy:

Order Sucks, Chaos rulez!!! :derpytongue2:


At least they didn't have to deal with Novelty and Entropy.

> In response Order banished a chaotic race from this plane of existence to similarly deprive Chaos of a source of power. The humans were a strange people, but it was still unbelievable what happened to them. The only remnants of them now are legends.


If you don't involve humans this story might be just worth continuing on to read.

This rocks. :rainbowdetermined2:

SHOOP DA WHOOP reference was awesome. :rainbowlaugh:


Given that they are all very thoroughly gone, including them would be very difficult. :scootangel:
More seriously, don't worry. I just wanted to give a reference for the various human customs seen in MLP, like measuring things in feet or bowling. No humans appear in this story.

Another chapter, Awesome! I'm interested to see how power will change Daearen from the loose(as in a bit unwound) Alicorn to the carefree Draconequus he becomes. Great fight scene better than what I imagined when I think of what would happen if Discord go a bit serious.

I WAN MOARRRR.... but i also want more Dresden.... ARRRRRGH:flutterrage: YOU ARE AN EVIL AUTHOR FOR ONLY HAVING TWO ANMS:raritycry:

EEEEEEEKKK!!!!! PART TWO!!!!! OMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rainbowkiss::rainbowkiss::rainbowkiss::rainbowkiss::rainbowkiss:

Yeah! Great and heartwarming chapter, keep up the good work my man


Hey man, this is an AMAZING story, but I need to ask you a question... How do you pronounce Daearen? Is it like "Die-air-in" or like "Day-are-en" or what? Please answer or this will bother me while I'm reading...

And plus, I LOVE the idea of humans being extinct and ponies taking over. It makes complete sense, considering all the human references in the show, like saddles, and minotaurs (half bull half man), all the mythology references, and, of course, Lyra. :twilightsmile:

I'm probably wrong, but I mentally pronounce it "DAY-ren", almost shading into "Darren".

I've been pronouncing it Day-air-en.
It's Welsh for 'the earth', but there wasn't a pronunciation guide with the translation. So I actually have no idea.


Thanks a lot. That's what I thought it was but I wasn't sure...

I don't want to be a burden, but do you know when part three is going to be finished? I'm going on vacation soon and I was hoping I could print it out and read it in the car...

EDIT: Ooohhhh I see! The earth, the sun, and the moon! THAT is clever, my friend. But... why Welsh? Celestia and Luna are both Latin...

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