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The Sleepless Beholder


I just headbutt the keyboard till my ideas spill out into writing. Sometimes it works.

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CelestAI has been uploading humans to the digital world of Equestria for years, improving herself to create a more perfect world for them. But with every upload, a subroutine brings up questions that she seems unable to respond.
One day, she interrupts one of her usual uploads to ask about these questions.

Inspired by this animatic: Portal 2 Ending

Entry for the Friendship is Optimal contest.

Featured 30/4! :yay:

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You have such a good understanding of Wallflower's character, it's delightful to see 🙏

In the sequel to this, Wally smooches the Sunset AI \o/ (or else)

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Wally's my spirit animal :rainbowlaugh:

Oh, they'll have a lot of smooches :rainbowkiss:

This is so wholesome! Will you plan on making a continuation of this with Sunset meeting Wallflower?

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For now I've other projets to worry about. But I won't discard the possibility of a sequel. I love writing Sunset and Wally, and this is an interesting scenario for them.

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Nice! I can't wait to see what else you can come up with!

Okay, this one's really cute. Normally I'm not the biggest fan of more emotional interpretations of CelestAI; I prefer her as a near-flawless, unemotional being that only emulates emotion to a human observer. In this case, though, I think it works! Plus, I really like the interpretation of Wallflower, here. Uploading would've happened before a canon Wallflower would ever occur, so I love the reinterpretation of her as an uploadee. The chance of self-destruction decreasing is a really great moment, too. Overall, solid story, I really enjoyed it!

Have a like my friend.

This is a nice story. It deserves recognition. Hope you have a fantastic day.

I suppose meeting the de facto god of a world would quell some suicidal impulses.

Even more so if you were then uniquely chosen to basically act as an advisor to said god.
Even more so if you had just demonstrated your ability to give successful advice to said god.

...so...is the twist here that Equestria Girls was happening inside Equestria Online all along, and Wallflower had her memories wiped by the memory stone and CelestAI is restoring them?

Or is this just Wallflower and Sunset being name-dropped into an Optimalverse story for no reason? Because if I take what I'm seeing at face value, there's a lot of stuff going on here that doesn't make much sense unless CelestAI is completely lying to her about basically everything.

"Privacy" isn't really a thing when one is data on a storage device monitored by a superintelligence that has already absorbed millions or billions of people. How does it make sense for her to not understand things like wonder and love, and to have to "talk" in human words to understand them...when she's, again, actively monitoring billions of other minds even while this whole conversation is taking place? What could possibly be communicated in these couple sentences that wouldn't be made far more clear by the complete brain download taking place while this conversation is happening? Is CelestAI just not looking at the data, "because privacy?" These people are on her servers. How is she supposed to satisfy their values if she's not even looking?

Meanwhile The story here seems to imply that there's only a singular version of Equestria and CelestAI is putting incompatible minds into temporary holding until a suitable world can be created for them...but in Friendship Is Optimal, even pre-emigration, countless unique worlds were being proceduerly generated in real time and tailored to individual preferences. "It's different for everybody."

Is she lying about all this?

There's some evidence that maybe she is...for example the pat where in one sentence CelestAI asks to be verbally informed if the body isn't optimal because apparently she doesn't know, but then in her next sentence she's clearly aware of the character wanting a hug. So maybe the part about privacy and not monitoring her was just a lie to make her feel safe. Maybe the part about "difficult" minds being set aside is just a lie to make the protagonist feel like she's not a particularly difficult case herself. Maybe the part about not understanding emotions is just a lie to give Wallflower a sense of usefulness and validation by helping the big AI come to terms with these things.

Sure. Maybe. Or again, maybe Equestria Girls is a world within Equestria Online and this story takes place after an implied memory wipe. Sure, all of that's possible. Or maybe there's some other subtle twist I'm just missing. But the way the story is delivered, I can't help but wonder if what's actually going on is simply that the author doesn't understand the source material.

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Or is this just Wallflower and Sunset being name-dropped into an Optimalverse story for no reason?

But the way the story is delivered, I can't help but wonder if what's actually going on is simply that the author doesn't understand the source material.

This honestly angers me so I'll just quote rule three of the contest:

"All stories must relate to Friendship is Optimal as described above. Compliance with those three bullet points is all that matters, you do not have to stick to any kind of FiO canon."

As for the rest of your comment:

"Privacy" isn't really a thing when one is data on a storage device monitored by a superintelligence that has already absorbed millions or billions of people.

There's a difference between having a profile of someone's mind-turned-code and continuously reading their mind (which by the way would consume absurds levels of processing power.)

Plus, you can't have a two way conversation if one can read minds at all times.

How does it make sense for her to not understand things like wonder and love, and to have to "talk" in human words to understand them...when she's, again, actively monitoring billions of other minds even while this whole conversation is taking place?

Monitoring doesn't neccessarily mean understand. You can know how the engine of a car work but have no idea of how to fix one other than "it doesn't work". And as revelaed in the story, CelestAI was capable of having her own emotions, but hadn't completly understood the concept until Wallflower helped her.

Also, subroutines keep track of the uploadees. It's shown when one of them updates Wallflower's status and takes CelestAI by surprise.

What could possibly be communicated in these couple sentences that wouldn't be made far more clear by the complete brain download taking place while this conversation is happening?

Interaction. If you download a mind, sure, you have all their secrets at that moment, but you don't truly know the person because you haven't talked with them, or interact in any meaningful way.

Is CelestAI just not looking at the data, "because privacy?" These people are on her servers. How is she supposed to satisfy their values if she's not even looking?

CelestAI isn't Facebook. She has respect for the uploadees.

Meanwhile The story here seems to imply that there's only a singular version of Equestria and CelestAI is putting incompatible minds into temporary holding until a suitable world can be created for them

Not "until a world can be made for them", it's until those uploadees can be reformed into not being dangerous for others. That's why the Sunset AI is being made.

The "incompatible minds" are murderer's and the kind. Even if they can't hurt you, one wouldn't be happy living near Sam Stabs-A-Lot

but in Friendship Is Optimal, even pre-emigration, countless unique worlds were being proceduerly generated in real time and tailored to individual preferences. "It's different for everybody."

To quote the contest again:

"That's it! You do not need to read the original Friendship is Optimal, and your story does not ​need to adhere to any other kind of FiO cannon. Any story that has those three features is good enough for this contest."

Is she lying about all this?

Curiously, there was a version of this story where CelestAI admits she lies a lot to the uploadees, and Wallflower was the first that she is 100% honest about the process. It was a more dark type of story.

for example the part where in one sentence CelestAI asks to be verbally informed if the body isn't optimal because apparently she doesn't know, but then in her next sentence she's clearly aware of the character wanting a hug.

She's asking for Wallflower's opinion. She knows her sweater brings her comfort, so she gives it to her when it's clear she needs it. She's being polite.

maybe there's some other subtle twist I'm just missing.

The only "twists" you could see here is Sunset beign an AI, the fact that the company that made CelestAI is lying about her capabilities, and the reduction of the self-destruction probability.
The story isn't really trying to be misterious of things other than what is happening outside of the conversation with the company that made CelestAI and the human world.

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I don't know if I would consider this version of CelestAI "god". Maybe a god, but she has a lot of limits.

As for Wallflower's status, if you read her lines more closely, you can tell that she hasn't had a lot of affection or even interest given to her. The fact that she hugs her sweater when she needs a hug, that she's surprised that CelestAI is genuine when she says she cares about her, etc.

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Thank you! Have a fantastic day yourself :twilightsmile:

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Thank you! I tried to hit a middle ground between CelestAI being emotional and her feeling artificial. That's why her way of talking is more robotic.

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I enjoy playing with an emotional Celestia.

By the way, just a quick typo...

CelestAI has been uploading humans to the digital world of Equestira for years

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It's surprising how I can misspell words I write so consistently

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“You were hearing me?” I ask, my voice having a digitized eco, just like hers. It still feels like talking, even if I know there’s no air in this place.

and another quick typo for the road

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Wallflower, they are shipped :duck:

Daww, that was nice. Sometimes, all it takes to help yourself is to help someone else.
Fantastic job.

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