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Mike Teavee


The Swap Father.

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A man, a draconequus, a conversation they have, and food that doesn't taste like it's supposed to. Set in the Divided Rainbow wing of the Xenophilia universe.

Chapters (3)
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That was delightfully insane. :twilightsmile:

Discord you don't mess with another man's meat!

And they tasted AMAZING in a way that most ponies could not identify.

:twilightoops: So, Discord not only brought tulipmania to Equestria, he also brought them the joys of tasty, tasty beef. Without them ever suspecting a thing.

I have to wonder, what would the cows think of all of this?

Well then, that's certainly something.

<Lero> DISCOOOOOOOOOORD!
<Discord> Yes?
<Lero> How the f*yay*k am I supposed to pull this open and eat the filling first? Oh, and hi, Fluttershy.
*Fluttershy hides behind a menu and continues secretly devouring her prime rib*

That's rather sadistic... unless Oreos are common in Equestria.

Hmm... I tend to like silly, but this was kind of a little too silly. The attempt at humor came off for me as rather awkward, instead of random and witty. Over all it felt like you were trying too hard, you know... kind of like how your Fluttershy in Divided Rainbow does.
:unsuresweetie:

Edit: To be fair, I did find the epilogue contextually amusing and much more well written.

For some reason, this was what was going through my head while I was reading

Lero: It looks like meat... but it smells like fish!
Rainbow Dash: Don't worry big guy... it tastes like chicken

Anyway... well done^^ I thoroughly enjoyed it:eeyup:

3376667 This was purely intended to be SILLY and make Mike laugh, since I sent it to him as part of another message. My thoughts never strayed into the area of this actually being published, but Mike thought it was good enough, obviously, and with his epilogue I think it was.

Sorry you didn't like it, but C'est la Vie! You have every right to your feelings about it, so I can't fault you for that.

For my part, thanks very much to everyone who commented, good or bad!
:twilightsmile:

I'll get back to this when I get home, but I want to add a story onto this when I'm not on my phone.

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You want to add a story ONTO this?

3399750 Yeah, here in the comments section, I want to write and/or post a link to a short philosophical discussion. Not done with it yet, though, so I'll do it tomorrow.

A thousand times Lol. :rainbowlaugh:

3399750 Well, it didn't turn out quite as philosophical as I'd wanted at first, but Discord was being fairly grandiose and wouldn't let me put words in his mouth. Link is being PM'd to ya, but I couldn't unlock the share settings from my Nook, so you'll have to copy/paste, or use the GDoc comverter in the chapterbox.

Eeeee~! :yay: I like the changes you made, few though they are, for without your own touch, I thought this subpar!

Discord was done excellently. I hope there will be more of these. I always wondered how Discord and Lero would get on under normal circumstances. Lero seems laid back enough to tolerate him and Discord likes the unintentional chaos the human causes in a world of ponies.

3412527 Yeah, those factored into my thoughts, as well. Think about it this way: Lero comes from a chaotic world. He's no stranger to Discord's machinations, if only because he's experienced or seen ones that end a lot worse than any tricks Discord might pull. I factored those in, then also thought to myself "I can't remember where in the time line Lero first 'appeared' in Equestria. If he appeared before Discord was released the first time, how might he have been changed by the Discordization?" Then it hit me: Ponies, who are naturally attuned to the magic of Harmony, would of course come to a complete change when turned on their head. But a human, who has almost certainly come from a very chaotic world (and, of course, has not the magic of harmony), would just do as his species has always done. Adapt. If Lero had been there to be Discorded, I could totally see him just sitting there and reading a magazine or newspaper, even as the words dance about and spell out rude words to make fun of him. He'd literally just deal with it, and if it never changed, it'd barely have any real affect on him. Sure, he might be more apathetic, or might be lazier in the long run, but all in all, he'd still be undoubtedly human, because what causes ponies to be ponies is their nature and nurture, and they've only seen Harmony for so long they can't reasonably adapt.

...

... Dammit, now I might have to write another ficlet with Discorded!Lero and Discord having a chat while Twilight is gathering the Element bearers. Might make for another interesting character profile...

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Yeah, those factored into my thoughts, as well. Think about it this way: Lero comes from a chaotic world. He's no stranger to Discord's machinations, if only because he's experienced or seen ones that end a lot worse than any tricks Discord might pull. I factored those in, then also thought to myself "I can't remember where in the time line Lero first 'appeared' in Equestria.

For whatever it's worth, within Divided Rainbow I always placed Lero as arriving AFTER Discord's first appearance. I wanted Chapter 8 of my story to be their 'first meeting,' the first time he and Discord interacted, (though of course, Discord's reputation would precede him!)

If he appeared before Discord was released the first time, how might he have been changed by the Discordization?" Then it hit me: Ponies, who are naturally attuned to the magic of Harmony, would of course come to a complete change when turned on their head. But a human, who has almost certainly come from a very chaotic world (and, of course, has not the magic of harmony), would just do as his species has always done. Adapt. If Lero had been there to be Discorded, I could totally see him just sitting there and reading a magazine or newspaper, even as the words dance about and spell out rude words to make fun of him. He'd literally just deal with it, and if it never changed, it'd barely have any real affect on him.

Hmmm... interesting idea.

Sure, he might be more apathetic, or might be lazier in the long run, but all in all, he'd still be undoubtedly human, because what causes ponies to be ponies is their nature and nurture, and they've only seen Harmony for so long they can't reasonably adapt.

Frankly, the idea of a Lero with ALL his morals and personality inverted SCARES me.

Consider how the original Lero...

...Love ponies and tries to fit in within their society.
...Tries to spread joy and togetherness.
...Strives to earn others' respect, wants his pony neighbors comfortable around him.
...Stands up for his friends, doesn't betray them, and will always try to HELP, not HURT when others have problems.
...Gives of himself.
...Is just an overall force for good.

Discorded Lero would be a NIGHTMARE of a villain... except that the big jerk's overwhelming couch-potatoing, ass-dragging SLOTH would prevent him from going out and doing much real harm.

...

... Dammit, now I might have to write another ficlet with Discorded!Lero and Discord having a chat while Twilight is gathering the Element bearers. Might make for another interesting character profile..

Be interesting to see, I'll admit!

3417776 Yeah, as I said.Give Lero just a touch of irritability and his entire demeanor changes. Having his entire viewpoint change would create only the barest hint of a difference. We are each our own worst enemy, after all, because no one shares all our strengths and weaknesses quite like we do ourselves.

This is most exemplified in the Christian God. He created Eden, a paradise for his children, and then threw them out on their asses for using the curiosity he built into them. That's like punishing a guard dog for barking when an intruder is in your home. Humans didn't change much after Adam ate the Apple, other than adapt to a kill-or-be-killed mentality. Note that I'm not trying to preach here, since I've basically become agnostic solely because of how stupid the Holy Book really is. I've read more of TWILIGHT than I have the bible, at a 3:2 ratio.

Yeah, I thought that might have been the case as well, but Discord could have met Lero before Lero met Discord. Ya never know, lol.

3437992 Thanks, man. Glad to see that my version of this Discord wasn't as boring as I'd feared. :twilightsmile:

whilst chewing his steak Lero's face drops, tears welling in his eyes
<griffins> hey is something the matter Lero?
<Lero> yeah... I've just been Discorded.

:flutterrage: DISCOOOOOOOORD

Solar Thighs

Kinda like Thunder thighs!

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Speaking as a fellow agnostic, I'd recommend reading more bible over more Twilight.

It's better written.

4793144 While true, that 3:2 ratio is regarding paragraphs.

Brilliant. You'd be surprised how much information you can get about odd things claiming that "it's for a book."

Now I GOT to know how this story ends!

Hopefully there is an explanation that makes me happy with Twilicorn. Because yeah I thought this episode was pretty bad till I read this story. Now I just think Twi's accention came too soon and was just a push for more toys to sell. Why do they need a super saiyan mode or a crystal friendship castle? I would much rather a tree library with figures.

Lero and Thetis meet.
"Hot human sex?"
"Hot human sex."
Then there was hot human sex.

Ah, fridge logic. It works just fine in a show for six-year olds, but when it's happening to actual people, it becomes a lot more complicated.

I do look forward to seeing how Discord's co-author resolves all of these issues. After all, Thetis Lero is one heck of a butterfly. Who knows how he'll alter the winds of destiny?

4797360 I found the three best corpse dump-sites in New Mexico after claiming it was for a book.


And yeah, this chapter basically sums up my feelings on MMC, without the part of it being too short.

As a friend and I had discussed not long ago, the swap lasted like 15 minutes or so, and Twilicorn was a footnote shoved in the margin at the bottom.

One way or another, you must write a followup to this chapter once you finish the story.

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Don't worry. From now on, rather than kvetching in the comments, I'll just add to Discord's manuscript, and have him show Space Cadet when there's enough for me him to get upset about. :derpytongue2:

Discord you need to FIRE Celestia

It does come down to that ethical question - at what point do they stop being 'mentally-influenced versions of themselves' and start being unique and independent individuals? Because if you take the 'do not break the spell on them' idea to the extreme, then it was 'murder' for Celestia to undo the want-it-need-it spell that kept everyone in town fixated on Smarty Pants. They all had an objective, desires, experiences, et cetera, and she wiped that all out - because it was only there due to the imposition of a magical condition. I look at the swap the same, whether it's over in one day or multiple months.

Then again, I took that and proceeded to write an entire story (or at least am writing one) about the Swap *not* being 'new ponies' but instead being two universes getting temporarily and uncomfortably merged, so that both universes consider the other universe's past to be the 'spell.'

If the swap had only been about transplanting experiences and memories into other individuals, the spell would have eventually broken down on its as the underlying "soul" or "core" of the individual gradually reasserts itself. In this case I would say that the swapped individuals wouldn't constitute new entities.

However, in the world of Rainbow Divided, the swap is much more than just a transfer of experiences and memories. Part of the individual's soul is transplanted into another individual. This, to me, qualifies as a new entity.

You could say in the case of a transfer it would be like putting the clothes of a person onto another person and hypnotizing them into thinking they were someone else. This person might look different, even act different, but ultimately they wouldn't able to change who they really are and eventually go back to how they were.

In the case of a transplant, it would be like taking half of a person's body and mind and grafting it onto another person. You could say this is more or less what happens at conception: half of 2 individuals merging into a new entity (minus the memories and experiences).

In the context of Rainbow Divided, I would agree that reversing the swap or even making it permanent will effectively "kill" a number of individuals. Poor twilight is left with a no-win situation: do nothing and watch as her friends descend into madness, reverse the swap and kill these new versions of her friends, or make the swap permanent and say goodbye to the old versions of her friends. This story does an excellent job of exposing the moral and ethical implications of Starswirl's unfinished spell.

Thanks Zontargs!

This SO much spells out everything wrong with that wretched story.

It’s a funny thing, death. Well, no, not funny in the way I like funny, but more curious, I guess. Death is boring. Death is an end to all the fun you could ever want.

Thank you!

I'm making a point of thanking everyone who has Discord say something like this explicitly. I've read too many fics featuring AxeCrazy!Discord, so it's always nice to see someone who agrees with this aspect of my characterization of him.

had stopped seaking.

wheneever

4798581 is it incest if it's your own gender-swapped self from an alternate dimension?

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