Shortly after the invasion of Canterlot, a changeling queen appears before the Mane Six. She seems less hostile, though, and more... disappointed and annoyed?
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Quite an interesting & fresh idea. Very neat story!
whether the concept is good or bad ignores whether the ponies might not want it even if it's the best thing ever
good concept but i feel like this really needs the idea of "show rather than tell"
Interesting but this really needs more. Like the girls wondering if she had a point about the species just sending hate outward considering applebloom was the only one who tried to know zecora. Despite the lack of evidence that zecora had done anything bad they barged into her home breaking the door down. Wasted her time and energy by spilling the cure and didn't really apologizes just ended the rumors. How about fixing the door and getting new ingredients to replace what you wasted.
Well, if this is what you can do after a long hiatus, I'm interested to see what else you'll put out if you can get going again.
Imagine showing up in the immediate aftermath of an invasion of a previously "unknown" species but still being judgmental because they're biased.
Really, ascension. And then become a race of emotional parasite that cannot live without another sentient races.
Interesting idea. Feels a bit rough and telly but definitely has promise. Hope you keep writing n_n
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i belive it was explained in the authors note why chrisalis hive was the way it was.
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authors note explains the invasion forced conquest. Nothing about feeding habits
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ah sorry i tend to puzzle things out and assume in my head things that are not explicitly stated sometimes. sorry again ill explain what my take away was my mind rationalised that because chrisalis hive race was not ready that it became the parsitic natured one we know. So my assumption was that other changlings that were ready like the ponys were not had a kind of infinate food due to peace between them and other changlings it sounded right in my head but was only built off the authors note
In the ponies defense, some of those traits that would be obvious to other changelings may not be so obvious to ponies or other non-changeling species that aren't adapted to keep track of those traits like changelings would.
Well...it's what canon apparently decided to promote, so...
Ironically...this comment could be interpreted as racist towards ponies by assuming that not only applies to all ponies but that was also indeed the reason for the ponies mistaking her for someone else. So look who's calling the kettle black here.
More seriously, regardless of the motives of their respective hives, there's probably some anti-pony biases among the changelings too, so let's not go pretending the problem is pony-only.
Again, in fairness to the ponies, this isn't really an unfair stance for them to want to make. They got burned by letting their guard down around changelings once before, and considering they hadn't encountered (at least in recent memory) of any other hive of changelings until now (and I assume this is either pre-Thorax, or Thorax just doesn't apply to this version of events), I honestly can't blame them for wanting to be on guard until Hyaline's finished making her case and they're certain there's no danger from her or any of her cohorts.
Yes, but you all hiding yourselves away, making no meaningful contact with ponies or any attempts to try and encourage them to change their views, isn't exactly helping either. Basically, you saw the ponies were discriminatory early on and decided to bury your heads and assume that problem would go away on its own. Surprise, surprise, it didn't.
I get the intended message here, certainly, and I don't mean to be so down on it...but Hyaline's elitist attitude about it does kinda rubs me the wrong way when I don't doubt the changelings have some of the same problems within their own ranks. The fact she's so quick to assume the negative about the ponies from only first impressions (which she gave them no forewarning on, startling them) kinda sort of proves it too.
Yes. This. This has more sway than Hyaline's giving it credit for, and she's really being unfair in just dismissing it when she was, again, the one who snuck up on them and, in effect, went "Boo! Imma changeling!" and for some reason expected the ponies wouldn't react negatively to that when Chrysalis's earlier actions had, quite understandably, left them more than a little on edge.
If she wanted a more positive reaction, she should've handled this way differently and not caught them so unawares like this.
So back to burying your heads and assuming the problem will go away on its own then. Because that worked so very well before now, clearly.
I'm going to assume it's at least a negative more than it is a positive. Maybe it's for the better Hyaline's burying her head and assuming the problem will go away on its own then.
Anyway, like other readers, it's a good idea overall, but it needs much more fleshing out and thinking through than it's currently gotten. Right now, all we've gotten is the cliffnotes version of an idea that has potential...but still feels a little half-baked.
This reads like an excerpt from or a teaser for a larger story
My take on this 'Ascension' is that it is like Buist enlightenment, rising to a heightened state of enlightenment.
What a fascinating concept... That changelings could be some kind of higher alien society watching and waiting for other species to grow enough to be considered great enough for this 'ascension'. It leaves the question though, how would Hyaline react seeing how much Twilight would change the world in just a few short decades? Cause she definitely pushed for some less racist views after becoming the sole princess of Equestria.
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It ends up being way too pretentious, especially in Hyaline's case. For her to make her own racists bias of "Oh, you're a racist, I get it. Just because an army that looks like me attacked you, you assume I'm the bad guy...even if I am literally meeting you after said invasion, oh how droll your pony tiny minds are."
Even more so, "We give this to the person who first figured out what was happening!" - Oh, the author means the pony who was traumatized by nearly being made an outcast by her friends, family, and mentor thanks to one of Hyaline's kind? Let's not forget poor Cadance, an Alicorn entrapped, weakened, and drained by a parasite.
Worst of all is that Hyaline then plays excuse of "Oh, but we are enlightened, because I said so."
The level of character omniscience that Hyaline benefits from due to author say so makes this extremely messy and even worse is that I have to read the "Author's Notes" and accept that as being ok.
No, Author Notes should never be abused in that way.
"But my reasons are sound. The notes say so." If that can't be explained in the narrative, the story is not finished then.
The author admits that these "Ascended" made buggy Hitler, but its ok, we changed the club house rules, we are the ascended, its fine!
No, they are just another race of pretentious bugs, an egotistical ruling class that ensures they are always right because they literally rewrite the history to fit their own narrative. Even worse, having a counsel just means they create foolish decisions by commity.
Didn't see them walking amongst the ponies in over a thousand years presenting themselves as they are and offering a branch of peace, and good will.
Convenient that a war of their own foolish decisions happened so they can then rub their "high and mighty goodness" in them darn pony faces.
Author made an attempt, but this needed to sit in the oven longer, it's raw.
There's a good idea buried in here, but the execution leaves so much to be desired. The concept of ascension is something worth looking into, but the way the story presents itself with what it does makes it come off as victim blaming more than something insightful.
This takes place, what, a day or two after the changelings invaded? This was a species Equestria never heard of and the first impression they got was nothing short of pure evil. Chrysalis had kidnapped a member of royalty, brainwashed a military leader, lead an invasion with full intention of enslaving the land and its inhabitants for their own use and showed no mercy. Yet, despite all that, Equestria is somehow in the wrong?
What did this council want them to do? Bend over and let Chrysalis and her hive destroy their land instead of defending themselves? In fact, why didn't this council step in during or shortly before the invasion to halt Chrysalis and explain and offer an olive branch to Equestria about what happened? Better yet, why didn't they make sure no other hives were attempting to invade other lands and prevent them?
Hyaline doesn't do much favor to help with what she did. She comes off not only as pretentious with what she's doing, but she ends up being pretty much racist herself when she talks to the ponies. "Oh, you were attacked by our species, whom you've never heard or seen before and made no attempt to contact you, nearly had your land destroyed, and lots of ponies got hurt and could've died from this? You're not giving us a chance and being prejudice. How dare you defend yourself and be afraid shortly after my species came by and attacked you?" Again, it feels like victim blaming here and she doesn't come off as someone enlightened, but someone overly pompous and lacks understanding.
In fact, it's even worse considering how Hyaline revealed herself. Once word gets out of other Changeling hives, Equestria is going to be even more on edge after learning of this and be terrified because they fear another attack like what happened at the wedding and want to respond with force. Rather than try to be diplomatic and offer help to show there are good changelings, Hyaline played judge, jury, and executioner with Equestria and has most likely made relations or her desire for them to ascend even worse. Good job, Hyaline, you accomplished the exact opposite of what you wanted to do.
Some say this story is half baked, but it feels like it wasn't even like that. It feels like they put the food in the oven and left it in too long and it got burnt completely. A real shame because there's an idea buried here that could've turned out great, but it's done in a way that just leaves a lot to be desired.
I gotta agree with most everyone else here. This would have been a neat idea but the way you went about it just makes this new Queen look like a pretentious idiot. Of course ponies are gonna be on edge about changelings RIGHT after being invaded by one. Then trying to make them out to be racists and "bad guys" for having that reaction is just stupid, frankly. If you ever plan on going somewhere with this for a sequel or something, I'd recommend changing a lot about the situation. Cause this just doesn't work as it is right now.
After playing Mass Effect where you meet two "races" Reaper and Kett that want two ascend everyone in their own horrible way without giving them a choice I would never trust someone like her.
Good story!
I enjoyed reading it.
I could probably write more, but in the end I would only repeat what 11669100 had already said.
Yeah sure, perform an equivalent of a jumpscare and render judgement on an entire culture based on that single moment. That will show them who's the enlightened superior master race here.