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Ok, so there is a point pointing out that Zack doesn't have any accountability for the baby?
And that she has complete right to do what she wants because it's her own body and mental state at stake?
Because I feel that you will mention her arguments for abortion in the story and just that.
You will put them but they will be just there, with no influence because the choice is already made.
I can't believe he's considering this monster inside of him, I just don't believe it. I'm starting to doubt Zack's free will again, they brainwashed her… those ponies. ignore their judgment, their right, I don't want Zack to be their slave. Luna had to wash her brain while she was sleeping. i feel disappointed.
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zack has pretty much just woke up from mind control and if they arent realy forcing her but if they resist if she does want to more that them talking then yes it would be sus. also they might be giving her some time to get her thoughts orginised as they proberbly want her to be in the right state of mind before making a decision and giving her a few days is proberbly for the best before a solid answer is given.
So... Zack is broken, nothing left of the Human only a broken pony mind left.
And the ponies won't see this, for them it will be that Zack just found the magic of friendship, non of them will try to help her back to what she was.
Scary and sad.
10702751
so kill And innocent because of the sins of the father? Real nice of you.
10702716
the kid should not suffer the sins of the father.
10702971
The same for the mother and she should have priority in a rape scenario, like this.
This isn't a case of 2 irresponsible teenagers,adults having unprotected sex, this is a rape situation.
I think people can't see the difference between the two.
10702995
there are so many people that would take the kid. so many couples that can't have kids would love to take the child
10703033
She still would need to carry it and experience pregnancy for months.
She would be constantly reminded for months what happened to her,it would be a torture.
I'm glad to see that Zach is starting to move past denial about his pregnancy, but he really needs to start thinking about the future of him and his child. Probably starting with a visit to the doctor and reading some baby books to know what to expect in the months ahead.
I am a little disappointed how the topic of abortion was handled in the story. If Celestia is correct in abortion simply being illegal and considered morally wrong in Equestria, then it shouldn't have been brought up so casually around and to her by members of the Mane Six. If you know it's shady, you should be more discrete about it--maybe suggesting to Zach that some flying practice with some hard falls might cause a miscarriage. And while the nature of its conception (i.e. rape) would be grounds for abortion in many parts of the world, I'd imagine the greater concern would be the nature of Zach's baby. It's the child of a changling and a chaotically modified alicorn with a cutie mark in chaos and dark magic. It could turn out to be something truly monstrous and a threat to all of Equestria.
10703054
she is going to be dealing with crap no matter what. an abortion here is just trying to run from it.
10703057
have to agree
10703033
Don't forget we need to make any precaution in case some of the psychotic Queen's followers would make any attempt on the child. I guess we have to wait and see what kind of pony that kid is going to be.
10703090
oh god yes
has everyone forgotten Blueballs?
I hate ponies, there's no free choice, Zack. they are hypocrites and pupae of rape and rape. by force, by force. where is the revenge on the chrysalis for the gift of the dead body of her little monster? I'll be disappointed when Zack becomes a sweet, passive slave. where is that anger Zack? I really can't believe he has the determination. and this determination, even in anger, gave her strength. I can't see it here
Called it.
10703316
called what?
10703509
Zack wouldn't terminate the... Whatever it's going to be, there were quite a few bits of discourse on the previous chapter and I was just like "Nah, he'll let it live, it would be out of character for him not to."
I was right. =D
10703514
well actually Zack hasn't made a final decision on whether to terminate the baby or not, he was just making the point that kill an inborn seemed cruel just because of the circumstance it was placed in her body. a baby has no choice in which mother its put into by which ever father put it there in the first place.
10703249
Laputa, the flying city from the movie Castle in the Sky.
i honestly hope thorax and zack get together, or at the very least they can both lean on each other for strength and comfort. thorax for both the beating and having to betray both his friends and family and his way of life, and zack for....everything.
Wow. People have such strong opinions on abortion.
Personally I disagree with Zack's decision but I am not in his situation (and thank Arceus for that), so I'll not presume to know what he should do.
I love the story and where it is going but the comment section is pretty toxic. Therefore I'll keep my nose out of it from now on.
trying to wrap my head around what a hybrid alicorn changeling would look like along with the fact that I have a feeling a certain changeling queen might be coming for it when its born, close to being born, or somewhere along that time frame.
Also holding some slight hope that by some miracle chrysalis can be reformed since killing her is off the table.
I heard parenthood changes a person so maybe it might change chrysalis.
10703915
well I'm glad you like my fic.
also for clarification, Zack hasn't made a decision on whether to get an abortion, or have the baby. she is just confused, scared, and tired and burnt out. she needs time to figure EVERYTHING out before coming to a final conclusion on what to do with the inborn baby.
id is already i would
10702970
jesus why the disliked
10704843
People are evil
10704942
i mean this fandom is about a series based on friendship and underdstanding and forgiveness what the actual fuck
10704138
I see. Well, I guess I took her rambling about the innocence of the child in the process of its conception as somewhat of decision to keep it. Also I strongly suspect that she'll keep it but that's just a feeling.
In the end this decision has some time on its deadline... at least everpony seems to think so. Who knows what the incubation time is if it turns out to be a changeling or a hybrid.
With that being said, no decision will eventually also be a decision. But for now I agree to let Zack recuperate for a while (if you as the author let him/her. )
it's a bit naive. where there is light, there is shadow, not only black and white. there are also shades of gray
"I mean, this fandom is about a show based on friendship, understanding and forgiveness, what the hell."
would you forgive a monster like Chrysalis? She raped, mentally enslaved, treated hers like changelings slaves. forgiving something like that is naive to me
It may be callous, but I woukd say it IS fair for Zack to get rid of it. It isn't his responsibility, nor did he ask for it, nor did any of his actions bring it about. If it was the result of consensual intercourse things would be different, but with this there is no question.
Saying he shoukd carry it is expecting him to shoulder q burdern created explicitly to make him suffer. Ot somply isn't fair for someone to unwillingly and through no fault of their own be forced to suffer bearing the vurder of another's life like that. In the same veun you wouldn't expe t someone who isn't a firefighter to run into a burning building, or someone who isn't a surgeon to put someone back together who was in a car crash.
10705054
Technically Zack may consider to keep the baby in spite of Crysalis. Crysalis did want to make herself a heir as awful as she is and force Zack to suffer through everything, but now Zack can raise queen's heir as she see fit and love it no matter what Crysalis want her to feel. Raise her or him in a loving and friendly environment. Nothing like Crysalis planned. That would be a much better revenge than simply aborting the baby. I do agree that is ultimately her choice, though. It's not something she should or shouldn't do, but she have to make a choice now. The important part is her resolve behind this decision. It would be even worse for her to abort without resolve and then doubt her decision for hundreds of years to come.
10705054
so you just murder because it's convient
10705036
no. the way i wrote Chrysalis in this fic, she's beyond forgivness.
10704843
Maybe because the comment sounds like the person assumes everyone is ok and for an abortion of this rape child because it's against the baby and not because it robs the mother of any rights of choice for herself. Guilt tripping people to endure possible psychological hell just because "muh abortion bad" is fucked up.
10705879
okaaayyyy i didnt wanna get political
10705920
I don't see a political problem, I didn't want to get political either, but an ethical one. And I see the comment as an attack on an ethical level. One that assumed the worst of everyone who said it was ok for Zack to chose abortion and that he should have the choice in the first place without ethical bias from the ponies.
10705927
ok im just gonna go now
good news. I hope the chrysalis will die very painfully, prison alone will not be enough. maybe when the chrysalis dies it will give me the satisfaction of justice, one less threat, no ponies' crap. Hopefully the writing chapter goes well, eventually the story will stand out from the crowd, and I know I have strange expectations and am weird. my interest is so great that I comment or discuss on an ongoing basis. I am usually indifferent and remain silent in the comments section. I can be difficult in my views and I hope the fic doesn't end up cheesy because "the ponies are doing fine". I liked the story because the hero knew what he wanted and didn't allow himself to get shit too easy in his head. this aggressive urge to be and stay alright (I liked it) and when it gets soft I don't know what to think about the main character and the whole story. I'm starting to feel this is some other hero? that it ceases to be zack?
when Zack becomes a cute creature with no trace of a human being, without his old self, I will probably be disappointed and abandon these stories. too many authors have abandoned humanity of their main characters to match 500% with ponies who hate other species, who are soft and expressionless, because they would think that the logic of the other species is wrong and that they are the only breeds worthy of intelligence.
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oh don't worry. Zack stays as human as she can be, even if she can't be one physically.
I still say get rid of the unborn child. (But that's just my opinion.)
Great chapter!
I would like be friends?
Rest and recuperation.
So, anyone else love the idea of just casting a selective growth spell on a pony to make their body larger without affecting a baby when it comes time to birth it? So like, nothing has to stretch, split, or take 46 hours of painful labor.
10993247
still wouldn't matter. the hatching was going to die either way, and Zack would still have to go through the process of child birth. remember Zack was male before all of this crazy BS happened to him.
Exacly. The child will suffer not less than Zack.
Is there a way to tell if it’s a pony or a changeling baby before it’s born? That could help MC decide to keep or give it away to the new Hive.