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twilight was told to do something by death and i think she will take it as a challange to go agaisnt him
Update? Very nice
1 to 1 situation!
Twilight and Zack - Raziel and Kain...
I refuse to play a rigged game with changed rules as i supposed to, even if i have to fight heaven and hell. For the fate is not theirs to decide!
Twilight Sparkle will not be anyone pawn. She would destroy all she is otherwise.
They want her to decide:
》》Head《《
Or
》》Tails《《
I say:
The edge!
In one of my storys one of my Harmonys is a sociopath control freak. Perhaps it is the same here with death and it's forced order?
Zack shall become Chaotic neutral.
It's like with the Lich King in Wow. There needs to be one holding on the position:
There must always be... A Lord of Chaos...
Death is foolish. When Celestia was in the same situation she tossed the coin untill it hit the edge! She could not decide between killing her sister or being killed, so she did create a new option.
She take in her hooves fate&destiny
and bucking it
repeatingly
in the face!
Twilight stand strong, you are not alone, your strength is in you'r friends. Death know not of the power of friendship. It changed Lunas fate, it changed Discord (mostly), because in the end...
Friendship- is- MAGIC
NO YOU WILL NOT KILL ZACK I CANT ALLOW THAT
There should be a poll to answer the question at the end of the chapter.
hum,,,,,hum,,,,,,,hum,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hum
salvation, or damnation? Death or life?
we are talking about Twilight , wounder of there is a third choice?
i kind of have a idea but for the sake of the story i am just going to read it as the author has it planed.
Multverse death said hmmmm there a big piece what big it seen, I feel like she going put the extreme bad luck together with herself or put it in a item to content but if death so take his soul and rebirth what was his remaining years so much suspicious
An unpleasant death sooner, or an even more unpleasant one later. A tough choice, indeed.
Who knows? Maybe there'll be a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ending?
Zack has suffered slot but death can't be the answer. Will not actually end ger suffering. Still apart from her family
In my own view, Death seems to be rather manipulative here, twisting the results to paint one item as "good" and the other "bad" this bias makes me distrust its motives from being a benevolent moderator to seeming more like a cajoling jerk. I would not trust something like that. There is a difference between presenting the facts and leading a conclusion. Anyway, I wonder what Twi will pick?
Nice
When in a no win situation: change the rules.
I feel that if Death didn't come off as "you must, there is no other way" then it would be more like presenting the solution to the lesser of two evils. Yes, Zack dying here would greatly affect a lot of people emotionally, but given his side of events, even if you somehow ripped the chaos out of him then there is still the backload of guilt, regret, and realization ready to step out onto the stage. But at the same time, if what Death says is completely true, then he would one day be reborn in the world he once knew.
You could play it to the 'Near Death' theory, in that every time someone has a near-death experience, they have actually died in that event, but their soul/ consciousness has been transferred to another body in another 'parallel world' where they didn't die, but remember the event that could have resulted in such (example: surviving what should have been fatal injuries). In this case, Zack would be put to rest, but his existence could loop back to the moment before Discord killed him on Earth, allowing him to remember both Equestria as a sort of dream and return to his family and live on while Twilight and co could rest easy knowing that despite the actions taken, Zack is now in peace.
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a very compelling theory.
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I wasn't really trying to write Death as a jerk just someone that is strict to law and order of the universe he hails from, he's not really doing this because he wants to help Zack, it's more like "Discord stole a soul from my reality, and broke the law of my reality, please return what was stolen so i can put it back so it can be where it was meant to be'.
i'm not sure if i'm explaining this properally.
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true, while dying won't set things currently right, it does mean that when Zack does die Death can take their soul back to their own reality, where he will be reborn and have a normal life the next time. as of now, Zack is effectively in a fake body that is comprised of Chaos magic, which is corrupting his soul and who he is, while also drawing in the chaotic influences of the world to bring misfortune onto him. also since Zack is an alicorn that just means that if Twilight does decided to keep Zack alive, for the rest of eternity (or for however long alicorns live for) Zack is just going to be subjected to stuff like this non-stop.
and this is something that Twilight will have to take into consideration. sure killing her look alike is a morally bad thing, even if its to save his soul and spare him further torment. but if she finds a way to spare Zack's life, with no way in preventing the foretold misfortune that will be brought onto Zack, she'll effectively make Zack live in this sad state of being with no way to escape it.
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but has Luna been subjected to anything that Zack has, and WILL be, subjected to. Death stated that the longer that Zack remains alive things will only get worst and worst till eventually Zack meets the most brutal and curliest death anyone could be given. and while Friendship is Magic, there are things in life that magic and friendship just can't change or save.
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I can see the comparisons.
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heroes always do try to find a 3rd option. question is, is there really a third option for her to find or figure out?
Yes, kill him. He deserves peace, and the ponies who hypocritically call him a "friend" have been nothing if the sort. To keep him alive inequestria would mean deliberately and cruelly forcing him to be something he doesn't want, especially since none of the ponies have EVER shown any desire to fix him at all. There's no magic to be found here.
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Kinda feels like the only real way for this to end would be for discord to perhaps take responsiblity and stablise zacks magic so she isnt a disastor magnet and insted the magic is just part of her. Or maby zack will reject death of her own accord this time and be reborn as the new spirit of chaos or something like that after all sometimes all that is needed to fix something is to turn it off an on again
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well Discord can't do anything, remember Zack killed him. so he's officially out of the story. becoming the new chaos spirit just means Zack will just switch from being a pony, to a spirit of chaos with emotional baggage, and still be in a world they don't really want to be in. and if Zack rejects death, that just means they're subjecting themselves to further cruelties and misfortune down the line till something horrible kills him.
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I wasent saying discord will rise from the dead. i was suggesting that if twilight is forced to kill zack of if it happens by accident then since discord is also dead and death seems to still be annoyed with him that discord might do a good thing and help zack. Im pretty sure discord knows he messed up and if he was put in the position to use what power he had left to help zack he might.
It sounds like a nice thing for him to do but im not writing the story.
Question. Is death and afterlifes specific to dimentions in your story or did earth death just step on equestria death turf
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Interesting point, so he may be biased to some extent. Fascinating.
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Death has a clear agenda, that makes me to belive he might don't mind bend truth to his prevered outcome. Also Zack has access to Chaos magic now that it is a part of him, more so with Discord death. I think Zack has been freed off the wheel of fate like Raziel. He has been released from the strings of fate and is truly unbound. Why would chaos be negative toward him? Did you see Discord endless suffer?
Further is it literally not Death place to dictate the fate. Zack is no longer his property. Discord take him out of his area off influence, this seem to be rather the deeds of a child throwing a temper tantrum than a responsible ruler of death. Death is Mobius, praying on the ignorance and gullible.
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Further this:
Raziel and Zack seem to be in the same boat.
Death seem to be Mobius at best:
and the Elder God of Soul Reaver at worst!
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What you described is life itself. Since suicide or genocide of all life is a 'no go' the solution is to move on.
Death can not stand imortals in general. They grow to smart over time to be used. Death has already suffered Celestia and Luna, he failed to make one dispose of the other. Now Cadance and Twilight joined. Death he has all reason to fear the return if the imortals over time. Eventually challange him and take his place for all the manipulation and deception of the eons he existed.
Death is... The Elder God of Soul Reaver...
A parasite that feeds on death itself and that needs to go against every imortal in time because they will become opposition in time...
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I love it when one makes good points and gives reason/explanation why it is, how it is!
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Indeed
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Exacly! The story of Soul Reaver is the key. All in this chapter comment section. A game and story so epic that i will never forget it as long i life
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He rather seem to want to break the rules without making his own hands dirty. If he is in the right than he would do it himself. Ironic how everyone says him no and he keeps jumping to the next best pawn.
If he don't offer a reward than he has indeed to keep searching for someone gullible to work for free.
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This storys Blueblood is a ass noone will miss. Let Death have his Soul and they call it even
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to the 1st: AH! i see what you mean.
the 2nd: Its Our Death crossing realities and going to Equestria, so yeah, Death is kind of stepping onto Equestria's death's turf.
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basically yeah. Death is a bias force, it doesn't care who you are it treats you fairly as anyone else. but cross Death and mess with his job, then he gets pissed.
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Funny... How is 'Equestria Death' not on the case? Would make more sence talking to the chef instead of the employees. I think 'non Equestrias Death' plays dirty and has no right in this place, as well as property claim. He is a Karen that want your house because you buy a Shirt from their company once.
( i know this is a absolutly horrific example but... I run out of perfectly fitting videos and examples... )
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The only exaple that comes to mind about what could happen is something like in that bakugan game i played while i had a ds. Where the villens bakugan gives the rest of his energy and existence to save your partenr and let them come back to you (i played the ds version and this is going off about a years old memory.
Also looking forward to the possiblity of eqestrian death possibly just showing up and stopping earth death since he is both stepping into her turf and stealing something from him.
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You didnt answer the afterlifes. as that would be something that could realy swing things in peoples opinions as if zack is cut off forever if she is left on eqestria then she might go willingly but if death is only being sore over him being slow then i have no sympathy for him
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I am agaisnt the death outcome
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the after life stuff will come up in next ch. that's why i didn't comment on it. I have a draft of what is going to happen, but not concrete just yet.
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cool. look forward to it
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Because he ultimately isn't a pony and doesn't want to be in equestria. To say he is one and should remain would be deliberately cruel because it would deny his spirit rest.
Wow that is a pretty dark cliffhanger. However there is a similar choice Twilight can make and it incorporates both death and rebirth.
That choice being she kills Zack but tells our Death that because Zack died in her universe our universe's Death now no longer has claim on Zack's soul her universe's Death now has claim on Zack's sou,l and she made a deal with her universe's Death to help her kill Zack and purify their soul of all the chaos magic Discord infected them with, and allow Twilight to carry a foal with Zack's soul and she would become Zack's new birth mother thus fulfilling Zack's rebirth to a new life of love and support so Zack can become a new prince or princess of Equestria someday
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But it is t destiny it is like he said mishaps caused by Zach not being on his world and made worse by discords death . This was caused by accident and I wonder how worse can it get for Zach already
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Dito! Death will archiv only more damage than life could. Prior comments with very fitting video from the Soul Reaver pretty mutch match here 1 to 1!
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We have very different oppinions. Prior comments in this chapter give me pretty good Argumentation why i think death is no viable option (pun intended). It would in fact be the start of the end of Equestria when Zack dies.
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I can see your point of view but here are rhe points why i think death is not the solution:
- All videos in this chapter i put in the comment via youtube watching link. It fit 1 to 1.
- If Earth has Death than so has Equestria. Yet 'Earth death' has visited Twilight and others 'not Equestrias Death'.
- Who will be the next target after Zack? What stopps Earth Death going after others? He already is interfering by goung over Equestria Death by involving himself. He already pulled a Discord indirectly, he just wants to play it smart and not do it himself!
- Zack soul might be from Earth but ge is Equestrian now! Yes, Discord did horrible things to him, but he also made him accidently a full Equestrian. With a imortal body non the less!
- Twilight is a rather new Alicorn. All other refused. For many good reasons. Death comes in time for all of us imortals just have a waaaaay longer running time.
Faust was how many millenia before Celestia and Luna? Yet she is gone now...
- Death trys really nasty psychological tactics. If Twilight falls for it she is less than booksmart. She betrayed than Equestria and for what it stand, her felliw Alicorns, her friends ( especially hard since she is the Princess of Friendship ), and most imortant:
Twilight learnd multible times that her strength are her friends! Yet death want her to pull a solo job against everything she ever belived in.
Until the Author clearly state in the comments:
"Yes, Twilight clone has to die or they all are doomed!"
We are given not just hope but many reasons to not let Zack die.
If hope is dead, so is ecerything else.
Welcome to MLP, where FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC and overcomes impossible odds. Example:
-Nightmaremoon
-Changelings
-Sombra
- Nightmare Rarity
-Tirek
-Storm King
-Cozy Glow
-Chrysalis-Cozy Glow-Tirek together
- ??Grogar??
- Incoming 'Earth Death' basicly saying this 8/9 trials of impossible Odd's don't mean Horseapples and they should roll over and all die already.
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your pretty close to what i have drafted down, but no Twi is not going to be Zack's mommy. i think that would make it, weird, to know that your kid was a guy from a different reality, then going through one shit show after another, becoming a Nightmare, and then having to die and be birthed by someone trying to be said past-persons friend/sister.
i think that would give to much emotional baggage to Twilight on top of trying to be the best mom for this guy, who had the worst few months of his entire existence before being reborned.
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Inb4 Zack replaces Discord.
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you'd want an emotionally broken, traumatized, and rather corrupted being with Chaos, Dark, and Harmony magic to be the new Spirit of Chaos....doing what Discord would normally do? while also being a magnet to increasingly more hazardous and painful waves of misfortune and strife that they will have to deal with? even if Zack is freed of her Nightmare state.
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Would I personally want that? No.
Would Chaos itself? Probably.
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Ok it was just an idea. How about Luna? After all she can relate
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only by means of being corrupted into a dark version of herself, but not about dying, being used as a playing thing for Discord's enjoyment, toyed and abused by Chrysalis, and being practically cursed to have basically bad luck, misfortune of increasing volumes be draw to you and just ruin your life when it comes to you.
I'm with Vaalintine.