Luna ruins a painting. No big deal, it was just the night after all.
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Awwhhhh I already love this. Can't wait to read more of this and reticence. I always get so encapsulated by your work. Thank you so much.
-Blizz
Best slice of life Twilight and Luna..... *suddenly too busy thinking of Luna to finish comment
This was so wonderful! I love the Aurora Borealis, so the idea of Luna creating her own each night to turn the night sky into a literal canvas is just, ah, so amazing!
7204489 I'm glad you like my writing, though unfortunately I have to inform you that his story is just a one-shot
, sorry. (Reticience will keep going, however 
)
7204520 Thank you
7205313 Thanks, I really loved the idea too. Kinda surprised I'd never seen it done before, to be honest.
The embodiment of "happy accident," I'd say. Inspiration is weird like that.
Awesome! One quick question. Doesn't the Crystal Empire create the Aurora Borealis? Or is this an AU or one time event or just Luna feeling inspired?
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First thought XD
Luna the artist of the night sky. Just the way I've thought of her night!
Sometimes accidental inspiration is the best kind and has the most wondrous results.
Great story!
We don't make mistakes here. There's only happy accidents.
LUNA'S WEB
loved it till the end. that picture just pulls me right out of the setting.
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And because Luna ruins the night that one time, all sorts of cosmic horrors appear and drive ponies to all sorts of grimdark atrocities!
Well that's how these sorts of things usually end up!
7205344 so she made the arura borealis which already existed ?
7206158 I wouldn't really say the crystal empire is a real aurora borealis. To me it's always just been a fancy light show that happens because of the Crystal Heart's magic. Plus it's never been at night so... I think I'm in the clear on this one.
7206440 As far as the picture goes, it's only there to help better visualize Luna's final message to Twilight, opposed to just typing out 'THANK YOU' which wouldn't have been a pretty good way to show a constellation in my opinion, but if it doesn't work for you personally then I understand. Glad you enjoyed the rest of the story in spite of it.
7206451 Yeah, that probably would happen if this were the show
7206497 She just created the aroura borealis for the first time in the story, actually.
I really enjoyed reading this. It's nice, cute little one-shot, and I loved it. It's not often i read stories like this, but it's nice when I do. Something you're really good at as an author is writing these short and sweet stories either based off of a silly idea or in this case, an adorable one.
They're not some amazing, epic but they're amazing in their own way. As a reader, I don't like being stressed, and this is a nice, quick, easy, enjoyable read. Even as an editor it was. Only difference is when I read I sit with this goofy grin grin on my face, and when I edit, I have a monocle and airhorn, goofy grin in tact, I assure you.
Personally, my favorite part of the story was the interaction between Luna and Twilight. You executed that really, really well. It all felt natural. It really popped off the page...or online document...and I sunk my teeth into that. i really loved that. I'm an expressive person, and a very expressive reader, so when Luna was Giddy I was too. Just overall, characterization was on par.
Can't wait for more!
And unknown to Twilight Sparkle -- over at the Hydroelectric Dam circuits began to spark.
7206523 i have a feeling thy would see its similar and i have a felling that the arura borealis does happen in their, its just happens when solar rays hit the magnetic fields which causes a spark of energy. from the two ends of the planet
7206608 To be fair, the sun is supposed to be able to rise on it's own without the help of a magic alicorn. I think it's safe to say the a lot of what happens on Earth may not happen in Equestria.
That, and not every rocky planet has a magnetic field, so I could make the argument that Equestria doesn't have one.
7206621 the second you make that argument means i win, you see thy have valcanos which means their is physmic activity which means thy have a metal core that is super heated which would mean thy have a magnetic field, with out that the atmosphere would be ripped away and there would be no air on the planet
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Seismic activity does not automatically equal magnetic field. First of all Mars has seismic activity, but no magnetic field, so how does your theory explain that? Secondly, a metal core that is super heated does not automatically make a magnetic field. In fact, Earth's iron core is well above the Curie temperature for iron, and yet we still have a magnetic field in spite of this.
Not to mention you could explain seismic activity due to heavy pressure in the mantle creating heat which would make it molten and cause a shifting of tectonic plates and completely leaving the core out of the equation.
And if not having a strong magnetic field means weak or no atmosphere, how does your theory explain Venus, a planet with a weak magnetic field but plenty of atmosphere to go around?
And I also should point out that science hasn't really figured out why Earth has the magnetic field that it does. There are theories, some that do involve our iron core, but nothing is set in stone yet, so trying to say that volcanoes equal magnetic field because super hot core equals seismic activity is a lost cause because the facts technically aren't in yet.
And the final thing that really deflates your argument is the fact that magic exists in this world. Science can explain a lot, but throwing in magical alicorns that move the sun and the moon show that trying to apply our real world logic to this fictional world is going to make this debate pointless. Even if you manage to disprove or ignore all of the points I just made, I can say "magic is responsible for everything" and you wouldn't be able to disprove any of that because with Equestria we don't know enough to say otherwise. And lastly, somebody pointed out below, magic was already responsible for the lights above the Crystal Empire that resemble the aurora borealis, so is it too much of a stretch to say that Luna just now discovered how to make the Nothern Lights using magic in this fanfiction?
7206690 yes but it has been shown that thy are not all powerfull gods, the strength of four alicorns at best can blow a hole trew a mountian and leave a 30 foot hole in the ground and that is using the strongest battle magic their is, it goes to show that evening with their combined effort thy would not be able to do that, and their does not need to be a strong magnetic field, and its been shown that marses core has been cooled, the magnetic field keeps the atmosphere from being blown away and without that everything will die weather or not thy have magic, the best thy could do is make a small magnetic field over their towns but thy would need to sacrafice a creature of sinificant power to use as a energy sorce, in the comics the crystal heart is actually just like that
7206705
While it has been long confirmed they are not all powerful, I have yet to see any confirmation that the magic Twilight was using against Tirek was the absolute best their combined attack spells can offer. Not to mention you're arguing that attack spells and manipulating the forces of nature are the same thing. We have confirmation that Celestia raises the sun every day. A feat like that, even assuming Equestria's sun isn't as big as our own, dwarfs the task of putting a magnetic field over the planet. This is ignoring the fact that it might not even be Celestia or Luna who produces a theoretical magnetic field over the planet. Perhaps the Tree of Harmony does it too keep the planet safe or maybe the planet itself creates a magical magnetic field. My point is we have absolutely no idea and arguing otherwise is pointless.
So you contradict your earlier argument then?
Yes, and there is still seismic activity on the planet despite this. You're dancing around the point I made, which is that Mars has seismic activity without the magnetic field when your earlier argument said that seismic activity means there is a magnetic field because it has a superheated core. If anything, Mars having a cooled core and seismic helps my argument by showing yours has examples to the contrary that you yourself admit to.
Again, I point to Venus. Atmosphere in spades, way closer to the sun and thusly experiences stronger solar winds than Earth, and a significantly weaker magnetic field. You have yet to explain how this fits in with your theory. If you can't explain it, then that means your theory holds even less weight in a magical world than it already does.
Let me point out again that you are basing the strength of their magic on Twilight's fight with Tirek. Twilight, who had limited control over the power that she had, probably couldn't access all of it, especially during the emotional state she was in when she fought Tirek. This is an incredibly weak point that ignores everything else the show tells us. You are basing the crux of your argument, the fact that the alicorns don't have the magical power needed to created a magnetic field, on a single fight.
Now, let me lay my argument out very clearly to you. My argument is that in this fanfiction an aurora borealis never existed in Equestria before. Princess Luna has complete and utter control of how the night sky looks in this fanfiction, evidenced by the fact that in this fanfiction she manipulates all the stars in the night sky into making it how it looks, aside from just the moon, which is why she is able to create the effect of the northern lights.
Your argument is that in the real world our aurora's come from solar rays hitting Earth's magnetic field. This is true for Earth. What I'm saying is that this is probably not true for a fictional planet with loosely defined magical rules. For the sake of argument, maybe Equestria does have a magnetic field. This changes nothing. I can just say Because Magic and all your points are invalid. Even trying to argue with show logic won't get you anywhere, because this is very clearly fanfiction in which I filled in some of the holes the show has left and make things happen because this is nothing more than a story about a TV show.
Our topic of debate has veered heavily from this, as you made a very loose, broad generalization that you have failed to back up for numerous points in the real world. Even if you come back and give reasons to disprove my Mars and Venus examples, that side of the argument only covers real world examples. Even if you somehow prove that Celestia and Luna are the weakest creatures in all of fictional history, it doesn't disprove the fact that in this fictional story about this fictional magical world, Luna has total control over how the night sky looks.
I understand that you are trying to apply real world logic into this scenario. In the real world, this would be impossible and I agree with you on that front. But again, this isn't the real world. It's Equestria.
7206794 ok so this is going to be out of order but i did not say that physic activity necessarily mean that their has to be a magnetic field and it has not been proven that it does have activity http://www.space.com/418-marsquakes-red-planet-rumble.html
now as we know when a pony gets their mark thy are much better at doing that thing after thy got the mark than beforeand if there mark gets removed, thy become bad at what thy door lose that talent altorgeather, now in celestias an luna's case, thy are actualy linked to the celestial bodys and thats how thy move them because the sun as we know is much larger than the earth and if she was that strong she could have killed tirk or all of the changling invaders and venuse does not get anymore or stronger solar flairs/ winds than the earth because as we all know in space their is no air and things will keep there speeds and strength.
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All right, now below is a direct quote from you contradicting this.
You argue for a very clear cause and effect relationship, essentially saying volcanoes = magnetic field. Which they do not.
That article you link to is also over ten years old. Here's a more recent article that disproves that one:
http://www.ibtimes.com/marsquake-seismic-activity-red-planet-bodes-well-life-414690
Do you have any evidence for this? Without confirmation from the show or the staff I can't say this is true. Twilight was able to move the sun and she was operating just with the magic and not with the supposed Celestia's Cutie Mark link, so I don't even know where you got that idea from.
She didn't kill Tirek because 1) Twilight Sparkle is not a killer and 2) their fight clearly indicated that Tirek's magic was on par with hers, considering he had the magic of every other pony in Equestria as well as Discord. And Twilight did not have any alicorn magic during the changeling invasion. I assume you're instead talking about Celestia, but it was very clearly stated in that episode anyway that Chrysalis' magic power had grown beyond Celestia's.
While space is a vacum, solar winds are radiation, and radiation disperses over time and distance. This is why solar winds from stars light-years away don't hit our planet with the same ferocity as our sun's. You're trying to apply Newtonian Physics to radiation, which doesn't work, my friend.
Also Venus is millions of miles closer to the sun than Earth, so the solar winds would disperse less before hitting it, making them stronger, but in your point you still ignore how Venus can keep a weaker magnetic field yet still have a much denser atmosphere than Earth.
I also made several other argument ending points in my last comment you have yet to address, which really makes me wonder why you even bother at this point. If you're trying to ignore those other points, we may as well conclude this argument here as you are only debating for things you think you have a chance at proving while there are plenty of other factors that make this entire argument pointless beyond entertaining whoever happens to be reading the comments.
If you're still insistent on debating this topic, do so somewhere else, please.
Oh, and one more time in case you missed all the subtext in my last comment:
APPLYING REAL WORLD SCIENCE TO A FICTIONAL WORLD WITH LOOSE MAGICAL RULES IS A POINTLESS ENDEAVOR.
Thanks for your time, but I believe I'm done here now.
Cute!
I like the idea that Luna paints to envision the night sky :)
7207340 Appreciate it
Thank you.
7206890 This was a really cute premise. Nice job!
Also, had the time and was bored enough to read through your whole interchange with Shadow Lance. Gotta say, that was pretty friggin' funny. I feel like "Because Magic" should just be the first response from the get-go to people who want to make these kinds of arguments. You have the patience of a saint. (Spoilers because people don't need to be forced to see this part of the comment when they first come to the story, for however long this stays near the top.)
7206890
I just love a good debate. And it didn't even devolve into name-calling and other unsportsmanlike conduct. Bravo, and well played gentlecolts. Bravo.
Gosh I hope Luna didn't really put such a gaudy constellation up there such as 'Thank You' spelled out in a bleh font with stars. That would really ruin something that sounds a lot like the aurora borealis.
7206690
The point being made is that if you start trying to excuse the absence of things that are causally-based in our universe, you basically have to ditch the whole thing.
Also, because magic is a bullshit answer that amounts to I'm lazy and I don't feel like thinking this through. Of course, this is a one-shot and a short story at that, so I suppose there's really no point in debating.
7206705
Dude, check that run-on sentence at the door. I have no idea why Canon shows Tirek and Twilight duking it out with giant beams of energy, but it smacks more of references (DBZ anyone?) than logic or reason. In my other fiction reading (not fanfiction), battle magic by most definitions is rarely about brute force and more about how you use what you've got (i.e. strategy and tactics). The inability to vaporize an entire mountain in one go does not mean anything except perhaps an inability to supply/generate all the needed energy all at once.
7206705 Why do you use "thy" so much?
To the author: it's a good little story. Very neatly packed and heartwarming (to me). Thanks for writing it!
I assume you meant lighting.
Sentence structure seems off.
Story was great.
7206890 People get pissed at me when I tell them that Equestria doesn't play by the laws of relativity and thermodynamics.
I don't know why they find that so hard to accept given we see the ponies breaking all known physical laws in so many episodes.
Silly people.
7207878 nah, it was probably a lot more like "Thanks fams" in that silly Microsoft font that you can't say without people thinking you're referencing Undertale
7206523 Yeah, all right. Makes sense.
7207890
Except I really don't think it's much of a stretch to argue this. I mean, the show itself implies that their planet does not naturally rotate around the sun. Arguing that they don't have something that we do seems like pretty sound reasoning in a world like that.
If this had been a franchise like Harry Potter or Fairy Tail, one with more rigidly defined rules regarding their magic, then I would be inclined to agree with you. However in the world of MLP, there is so much we just don't know about the way magic works there. The show itself doesn't really seem all that interested in explaining a lot how magic works outside of a few really basic things mentioned in season 1. Our lack of knowledge on the subject allows us to fill in the blanks as we chose when creating works of fiction about that work of fiction. When I say "Because Magic" it's me saying there are tons of different reasons for why this could happen in the world of the show because of magic, but since the show hasn't told us a lot about the way magic works I can't just select one option and defend it as fact because we legitimately don't know.
I mean, I could say that Celestia, who has immense control over the sun, simply chooses not to have it emit solar winds/solar flares because she feels they are too dangerous, thus completely eliminating the possibility of a natural aurora.
I could say that the Tree of Harmony creates a magical field to protect the planet from cosmic radiation, but is different from a magnetic field so that an aurora wouldn't form naturally because of it.
I could say that Luna just has the complete control of the night sky and the way it looks, so if she never thought to create an aurora than one never would have happened.
It's really all up in the air since we just don't know enough about the world to say for certain.
To all of you trying to apply logic to a fantasy world about talking pastel-colored horses I ask why? Last time I checked...Equestria isn't real...and physics and logic, a lot of time don't apply. Look up the definition of fiction please. No, that doesn't mean an author can spew whatever he wants but here...You've got to be kidding me. I get it...science...but in the world of Equestria...
All I'm saying is it's a fantasy world. As a writer, the writer has the right to explore that world. There are no established physics in Equestria and science is on the so-so...as Pinkie constantly proves. Just read the story and share your thoughts, don't tear down an entire story because physics don't apply in a fantasy world.
God Bless. And yeah
its sad that I spent more time reading your debate, because that back and forth was entertaining, maybe you should make a sequel where luna tries to debate with someone (likely an astronomer, but it doesn't matter) argueing how impossible the new light show, and it ends with the royal canterlot voice and Luna yelling "It's magic, I don't have to explain a damn thing!"
This, this is good stuff, nuf said.
That constellation needs more stars. There's no way anyone would be able to figure out what it says if you don't draw the lines for them.
I was hoping it would end with a picture of the aurora.
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I'm not a good enough artist to make a decent looking aurora, sorry.
Well that was something all right. I love it when writers play with the ideas of magic. It's just too much fun to speculate about.
7209241
Except that story telling is frequently predicated on the premise of 'in a world like overs, except for...'. There has to be some kind of middle ground or else you can't use any real world physics, math, etc for squat because you've said that they don't apply.
I would argue that Harry Potter's magic rules don't exist, not really. It's just as shaky as this in lots of ways. Take the elder wand for instance. It can do things that aren't otherwise possible, like repair broken wands. And what about those prophecies? For what it's worth you can't really use show canon for grounds about how the world works in a larger context because the show writers can and probably write whatever they damn well please. That in no way bars you from defining other rules except that you have find ways to avoid direct contradictions when possible unless you want to be AU.
We don't even know what the 'sun' over Equus is other than it presumably behaves similarly to our own with regard to the kind of light and heat it emits because those are necessary for life as we understand it. And that doesn't explain how an alicorn could even move it, much less control what it emits. Frankly, without electricity and concern for magnetic fields, ponies might not even care about Solar Flares or Solar wind.
Maybe we're just chewing at opposite ends of the same string, but 'because magic' is still a really poor excuse.
7210189 I meant a photograph.
*Reading the comments
Holy crap, people can get anal over the smallest of details.
Just be satisfied that it's a cute little short-story and that's all it was meant to be.
And that's how the aurora borealis was invented, kids. Ponies. Magic ponies.
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7209241 Hahahaha, someone is actually mad that you made something up about how something on a planet that is not earth that potentially has different atmospheric and magnetic qualities, in a fanfic about a cartoon aimed at little girls about multicolored magic ponies?
That is both the saddest and funniest thing ever.
I liked it. I think if you had tried to use a drawing of the aurora for the cover art it would have given it away too soon, so the picture is perfect.
7218302 The aurora borealis was actually localized in Principal Skinner's kitchen in Springfield on the very day Superintendent Chalmers came for a visit.
(Oh come on, that's from like, 20 seasons ago! No one's going to remember that!)
Yes, I'm really old.