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With each passing day, the night grows ever darker.

Princess Luna has never felt more alone.



Artwork by the Inimitable Mewball

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If you will, please PM me when you publish this so I can add it to the Equestria Daily group. Congrats on being posted!

Excellent - added to Sad Luna.

I get it. Not at first but now I do, their species and planet on the verge of death because Celestia's sun was on the verge before becoming a Supernova all that time ago.

What it is now is because they didn't anticipate what exactly would happen when it erupted.

That's a pretty good, dramatic read man. :pinkiehappy:

Was very enjoyable. I already have ideas for pre- and sequel. But if you don't work on it anymore it's fine. Like it anyway.

Very nice. c:

Why would the magical sun that orbits a planet go supernova?

Now, what causes a star to go supernova? How large it MUST be in order for it to occur? A stellar core or white dwarf at least 1.44 solar masses, the Chandrasekhar limit must be attained for the degenerate matter to overcome electron degeneracy pressure and collapse. And that's just to get a neutron star. A black hole requires, note REQUIRES, a stellar core NO LESS than 3 solar masses for its gravity to overcome neutron degeneracy pressure.

Without these conditions A BLACK HOLE CANNOT OCCUR.

Now, does anyone comprehend the energy release of a supernova? Equestria THE PLANET would be vaporized. No rocky planets within the habitable zone of a star large enough to undergo supernova would survive the blast. Gas giants further out would have their atmospheres ripped away, leaving them naked rocky cores which would slowly spiral down to lower orbits (as it seen with the few systems of pulsar planets found). We've seen nothing to suggest any of the creatures in the show have the power to protect the planet from such a cataclysmic explosion. Discord... maaaayyyybe... if he's portrayed as Q's counterpart... is the only one who could do anything to prevent the planet from being utterly destroyed.

Do you realize how much radiation is given off from a black hole shortly after its creation? This is not a short-term ordeal! The blast of a supernova creates immense levels of radiation, and any in-falling left-over matter would form an accretion disc around the black hole and blast the entire system with X-rays and gamma rays for ages! And Faust help them if the poles of the neutron star or Black hole are pointed directly at them. It'd be like standing in the particle beam of an accelerator with the energy output of the Sun squeezed into the beam.

The story uses a subject the author does not comprehend. This is the core issue behind the tongue-in-cheek warning against mixing magic and science. It only works if the author comprehends the science and can manage to work around the scientific implausibilities (and some outright impossibilities) of magic.

In this case, a totally magical reason for the Sun going out would have been far preferable. Perhaps, in a vengeful act, Tirek threw the magical Sun far out of its orbit, or shut it off. There was no need to convolute the issue with a supernova, which doesn't even make sense in Equestria's universe.

Your astrophysics is wrong. The planet would have been burned to a crisp millions of years before the blast as the sun approached red-giant stage. However, assuming it actually exploded like in this story (suddenly, while leaving some life), the black hole would have had less mass than the star it was born from (the rest is the nebula left over), and it would act, gravitationally-speaking, as if the sun was still there. It would not suck everything in like a cosmic vacuum cleaner (unless you were at a distance away from it smaller than the radius of the original star).

But other than that, it was great!

Even if the astrophysics are quite off - it doesn't matter. The rest of it was wonderfully written and the sadness of this small bit squeezed a tear out of my eye. Congratulations for managing in that short amount of words.

A black hole <1 light years of the planet eh?
Apparently magic can just NOPE physics out of existence.
P.S. you forgot discord, who CAN mess with physics nearly every time, he can do what he wants with a snap of his fingers.

6453881 Magic from a single Alicorn holded back a Super Nova, the Black Hole should be cake for a bunch of ponez.

This is very well written; the exposition doesn't feel forced at all and the characters are immediately sympathetic. I hope you decide to continue this story-line.

P.S. Sad music to go with the sad story #feels

This is but the beginning. Do you have plans for more? It certainly deserves it.

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Science schmience. There's a limit to how much science needs to be in a story, and a good chunk of that is decided by the author. Some things just dont need to be that correct, or else it can bog down the story. You can just as easily argue that such attention to detail can and, usually, will make for an interesting read, but then you'd have to balance reader understanding with validity, and that's sometimes a can of worms best left unopened.

6477714 He made a magical sun go supernova in a world with magic...

That right there demands an explanation.

I reiterate: Do not mix science and magic concepts unless you actually understand the science. You can BS magic all you want, but science is FACT.

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He made a magical sun go supernova in a world with magic...
That right there demands an explanation.

If [Luna] closed her eyes tightly enough, she could still see it all unfolding—the brilliantly terrifying blast of the supernova, the pulse of raw energy as it tore through space and time toward their helpless planet, the expression of raw pain on Celestia’s face as the light drained from her eyes…

She’d warned them a few weeks beforehand that something had felt wrong, but nopony had expected this. Who would?

In a final attempt to save her little ponies, she’d thrown all of her magic and then some against the oncoming supernova—it half-worked. According to the mathematicians, the casualties had only been a fraction of what they should’ve been.

Yeah, he did make a magical sun go supernova in a world with magic. And he also resolved the cataclysmic issues said supernova would have caused with magic. He took the barest bones of a science idea and applied magic to both the problem and the resolution for the backdrop of the story. In conceit to your argument, he could have gone with another sun-related catastrophe, or simply avoided using the word "supernova," but that's less of an issue. Here's why:

You can see in the above excerpt that he paid little attention to this detail on purpose: the story is about Luna coping with her loss and searching to make things right, not Celestia. The focus is kept on Luna and her struggle (as it should be!) rather than infodumping math and astrophysics into the story. Verisimilitude is sacrificed for strength of pacing and tone. We as an audience don't need to know that it takes three solar masses to cause a supernova, or that Equestria's planet would be vaporized if it were following real-life orbits and astrological distances and what have you.

Celestia face tanked it. That's plenty enough explanation for the premise.

6482022 My point: why use a real-world problem when a magical world substitution makes far more sense and is inherently self-explanatory? There's a black hole left behind which also makes no sense, since as I explained in my long astrophysics concept lesson, it takes a huge star to form a black hole.

Example: Equestria's sun is cursed by one of the other demons in Tartarus and it goes out and the backlash kills Celestia before they could stop the demon.

And just like that, the entire thing is set up with no need for additional questions or info.

If a story isn't going to explain its implausibilities, then the best thing to do is "Keep It Simple, Stupid".

That advice exists for a reason.

Don't give up on your quest, Luna. But come, for a time. Talk with the scientists. They don't have a solution, but they have some ideas. They may be a lead for you to follow. You may have a lead for them to follow. Catch up on the developments. Show the ponies that you are alive and still searching. Spend some time with us. Then resume the search, even if not with new answers, then with new questions that will be easier to answer than this current one, bring us closer to bringing the Sun back. Go again, seek, and then come back again, a year later, with new discoveries. And again. And again. Until we bring the Sun back.

Thank you for writing this. It's not often a story hits me as emotionally hard as this one did.

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Some things just dont need to be that correct, or else it can bog down the story.

the story is about Luna coping with her loss and searching to make things right, not Celestia. The focus is kept on Luna and her struggle

I'm not a fan of the way Alondro's been arguing it, but the point remains sound: for anyone who is familiar with the phenomena involved, the story's portrayal is impressively immersion-breaking. In my case, I spent the rest of the story distracted by trying to figure out semi-plausible ways the sorts of magic seen in the show could produce the described effects, which needless to say greatly weakened the impact of Luna's arc. And considering the number of people who've commented on the problems, that's not an insignificant concern - there are obviously enough readers familiar with the (fairly basic) science involved that glaring errors needlessly alienate a non-trivial fraction of the audience.

Fortunately, this case is a pretty easy fix: just pick a different reason for the sun to go out. Unexplained magic would totally bypass the issue because the readers wouldn't have enough information to rule out details - basically, the vagueness would mask any mistakes on the author's part. That would let people who have a passing familiarity with the subject enjoy the story without weakening it for everyone else.

You incorporated the exposition into the story seamlessly, and you conveyed the feeling of hope in Luna’s words very well. I love it.

And should you wish to continue this, feel free, but I think it works equally as well as a standalone piece. It’s a story about Luna and Twilight, after all.

I like. Thanks for the read.

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