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3472307 I'm sorry I am have issues at the moment with someone trying to help me.
I can't because my.phone sucks.
Is... Is this a troll chapter? Did you delete that one?
Sharing the love.
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What does this even mean? Was there some great demand for a TCB fic that shook up the subgenre? Is this the Hard Day's Night of TCB fics?
More importantly, is this story gonna sink or swim based on how unlike other TCB fics it is, or how good it is?
3472489 no. Its the one most people wanted.
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Quick note, there is an error in the description.
"A human, pushed to the brink of madness and misery..."
3472536 yeah I know.
3472542
Can you... Edit it or something?
3472550 probably.
3472385 TB3?
3472565 my co-author.
Some think he is my ghostwriter, but that is untrue.
Alright, this is much better.
Now, was that really so hard?
3472597 i didn't want to split it.
I fucking hate it
In asked Drawdex to do it for me. Because I wouldn't do it and I physically can't due to being limited to my phone. All in all.
I didn't do squat.
Hopefully with the chapter split this will make everyone relax.
I love the jokes, but I guess not everyone likes dream sequences.
I didn't think you could make Lyra getting executed anymore soul-rippingly sad...
You did, you really did.
Drawdex is a hero.
Able to help a bro WHILE playing that soul crushing game.
... Jimmies have been rustled...
And I am confused.
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If you were late to the party my friend, then allow me to explain (if not, then... you don't need to read this message ^^;): The gag chapter before this was written before the redskin's friend and co-author of this fic (as in the guy who wrote half of the things in this amazing fic) as a real chapter and no one didn't really like the misdirection it gave them because it made people question what was real in the story and what wasn't. So obviously, people were ripping redskin a new one about how that chapter almost made them quit the story and how it would actually make others would do just that (except for me, I pretty much ripped on redskin's friend indirectly through red's message board about how he could've warn people about that) or made them completely weary of this fics canon in future chapters.
Y'know, now that I have had time to think about it...
My points from before about Discord being full of crap are even more valid. And allow me to being up just why that works with the very thing presented here...differing points of view being good and evil. The poor brainwashed ponies think they're doing humanity a favor, right? Even the Solar Tyrant thinks so.
That's because there's no such thing as objective evil.
See, here's what I don't think people get. There is no need for a balance between good and evil. It just exists for a bullcrap excuse as to why there has to be suffering, but that's stupid. Do you think that a hurricane is "Evil"? Or a thunderstorm or fire is "evil" or chaotic? It's a neutral thing. It doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. But the damage it causes still causes struggling and suffering and pain. So right there, you've got evidence you don't need evil in the world, the everyday normal struggles of the world will be enough to challenge people and to have them show their better angels. But there's another reason that there's no need for evil and why Discord's speech was stupid.
Nobody is born EVIL. Period. Nobody is born thinking "I'm gonna burn down an orphanage for I am evil! That is how I roll"! If anyone did, they'd be INSANE, and not actually understand right and wrong. People are evil because the circumstances around them force them to be evil, or because they think something is OWED to them and the only way to get it is to be evil, or because they want to protect someone they love or help oh emperor they love and the only solution they can think of is to do something bad. But even then, they ultimately believe that they are good PEOPLE. Or that their actions will lead to a greater good of some kind. The phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" should be "the road to EVERYWHERE is paved with good intentions" because "everyone is the hero of their own story" and nobody ever has BAD intentions!
And even if Discord wanted to make the argument that some people are just born jerks and it's silly to think that he corrupted anyone....HAS HE FORGOTTEN WHAT HE DID TO THE MANE SIX!? To ALL OF EQUESTRIA? Is it REALLY so much a stretch to think that he or something else corrupted others into being evil given how they live in a magical land? Luna was corrupted by a dark spirit after she essentially ignored her sister's pleas for understanding and threw a temper tantrum so destructive she had to be sent to the moon. Sombra's magic could twist you into feeling uncontrollable fear and sadness. The idea of a gigantic evil force corrupting others into doing wrong might seem slightly outlandish in the human world, but in this world? You have manticores, dragons, magic and your queen raises the sun! You'd pretty much be open to ANY idea, methinks! It's not that much a stretch that he corrupted those two!
And YOU don't get to talk about what's moral, DISCORD, because chaos ISNT moral. Things like kindness, compassion, justice,generosity, all of those oppose chaos because those things are meant to ensure people live together in HARMONY and in ORDER and PEACE. Chaos is essentially freedom to do whatever you want and that can be a FACTOR in doing good, but life isn't about total freedom, it's about sharing responsibilities. It's about adhering to the law because your freedom to break into somebody's house and steal their stuff doesn't trump their freedom to not have their stuff stolen. You do not have the freedom to do whatever you want to your loved ones, you need to respect their decisions and have LIMITATIONS. Chaos is only useful in small and, ironically, a sense of CONTROLLED...doses. But things like compassion and friendship and love are always useful and always moral. Because we are social beings. And we've very, VERY little need for outright chaos. But we will always have a need for friendship. And for love.
This is starting to look like a site blog post
Why do people have to get into such large arguements over small things, state your piece and be done with it
I really couldn't care less about which one he used, i liked them both, i love comedy and the last chapter kind of loosened some tension with some lighthearted jokes, if you can't take a joke well then screw you
3472599 It was in the original. You just had to wade through the joke.
3473257 yeah. He is no longer allowed to comment. Smug bastard.
In fact I should just stop now all together.
I let other people write I'm my stead instead
No one is happy.
3473160 are you done.cause lately I believe I should scrap this story all together because people like you believe you can do better.
You have this perfect little world in your heard, and I came in and destroyed it.
3473308 Don't.
I don't have any sort of comforting quotes or speeches ready for you. I'm not that kind of guy.
But what I can say is that people are jackasses and you've got to take them with the good readers.
And also, keep writing, just to piss them off.
All things considered...I actually really liked the gag chapter. Why? Because despite being a gag it was well written, well thought out, and well implemented.
For a moment I actually did feel like that would have been a natural progression of events before I realized that it would have made things too easy. And we ALL know how the universe looks down on making things too easy!
Anyway, I liked it and to be perfectly honest some of the people that didn't like it really need to chill the hell out. So what if it was in the middle of the real chapter, it's been labeled as pretty much nothing but a dream right? Then what is the big damn deal? I think it was a great little chapter and a great send off for your friend, well done! I can't wait until it's re-posted so I can read it again!
3473321 because people hate having their world shaken and thrown into a blender.
At least you were able to take away the real chapter for what it is worth.
3473326 But one thing about the gag chap. Did the alicorn history actually happen that way?
3473348 sort of.
I have to get rid of a certain stain called a chapter because TB3 did a better job than me.
Discord said himself though, its sort of correct, but some things are just wrong or missing.
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I think you misunderstand. Just because I absolutely love this story doesn't mean I can't point out something I think really doesn't WORK. If all a person ever gives is positivity in a fluffy "oh your work is so great" way, without constructive criticism on what could improve or pointing out what seems like a plot hole, a writer won't get better. This is what I wish to do, your story is well written and concieved. Marcus is relatable and empathetic, we have excellent detail crafted into the story and what you did with Trixie is EFFIN BRILLIANT. But there are still a few things worth pointing out that don't quite gel.
3473379 that rant from earlier didn't read like criticism.
I'm getting real tired of hearing of the critics lately. There is being a critic, and them there is the mess I read earlier.
From now on, I am just going to block them.
I'm done hearing the so called rants that they call criticism. You critique something, you do it right. You point it out, explain it why you think it wouldn't work. Your borders on the rant level to me.
That's what I am going to do.
I'll leave it up, dissect the comment for what it is worth, but I am no longer going to deal with.
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Well if it came off as needlessly nitpicky or as more ranting than actual critique, then I am genuinely sorry. That wasn't my intent, but that doesn't mean I should just say "if you didn't get it, that's your fault not mine". I get on my soapbox too often, and I need to be more mindful of how my words can hurt others.
*sigh*
I wanted to like this story. I really, really wanted to like it. Most of the first half-dozen or so chapters packed an incredible amount of emotion into them. Then the story got caught up in flashbacks and preparations, and started going nowhere fast. Discord's tear into Celestia, followed by a blatant and gratuitous crossover, began sending up alarm bells. And the last chapter killed just about all the interest in this story. It jumped the shark. So, yeah. I'm done.
Also, you have remarkable way of taking 10,000 words to go nowhere at all. Try to learn to be concise.
I for one keep reading this story. You guys nead to realize thet even the best books story's haveing there slowe/down times it's cool we got a prety good deepts about the background why did this happen and what happend in the past etc. About the previouse chapter sure it whas goofy then what? I honestly lol'ed about the hole random alicorned situation and all. But I woud lie if I didn't whant to see the story geting into the good part.
Good part (in my opinion)=ROFLstomp evily Celestia brain dead army by realy equestria+human army oh also don't for get the main 6 vs main 6 fight oh boy the cat fight will be awsome .
3473677 bye
you know, I don't care if I get gutted for this, it needs to be said (at least in my opinion)
most chapters start off fine, but then become impossible to follow. it's as hornet said, "going nowhere with 10,000 words". it's needlessly complicated and feels like purple prose and not plain english, more than anything and if someone asked my to describe the events of this story in one paragraph, it simply couldn't be done. and even halfway through trudging through the word swamp my mind is screaming "END ALREADY!".
in other words: TL;DR syndrome.
Note: i am fully expecting you to go off on a (probably angry) slight against this. C'est la vie.
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I didn't write it.
I never thought of it.
No one reads the author notes. Or title.
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then allow me to be clear.
This applies to the whole story, not one chapter.
3473859 there is the door. Bye.
I'm not going to argue.
You don't like it tough luck.
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might as well leave. this story has jumped the shark so hard it's gone through the ceiling. that and your copout answers to genuine criticism aren't helping much. i'll say one more thing;
people who are trying to give criticism don't automatically hate you, and saying "but someone else wrote it" isn't an excuse, then pass it on to the actual writer instead of throwing your toys out the pram and getting mad at everyone who tries to point out a flaw.
Auf Wiedersehen, Scweinhund!
Alright, can we please end the drama? "The Writes of Passage" chapter is split in two, that should make people happy.
The story is not perfect, no story is and we all have our own tastes and preferences. Leave it at that.
3473819 Hear hear, I can accept that the last chapter was a bit of a joke and move on with it and I personally like the world building that goes on in the flashbacks as we are dealing with a parallel Equestria and I like to try to find the points of divergence between it and the one we are familiar with.
This definitely one of the best TCB fictions I have read where the ponies are not only the bad guys. but they are REALLY bad guys.
I'm sticking with this right to the end. Keep going Redskin!
I'm getting a baaaaad vibe from the comments here.
Please tell me this isn't dead...
3474999 no.
But if they believe their 'critique' warrents to be insulting as well as downgrading the story. They won't be commenting further after that.
Seriosly people? If ya dont like the story just stop reading we dont care if you leave. there is no need to comment like "ugh! Im done!",we dont care.
Im gonna just wait for the next chapter for the story im gonna read. This one.
3474999
Over my dead offline body it will!
Okay?
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Right and Wrong are culturally based, The fallacy with your opening argument is relating hurricanes and wildfires with thinking beings. Evil is only for things that can make choices. Evil is a choice, and Good is too. It simply depends on what the choice is. Evil is, in a nutshell, causing harm to others, indirectly or otherwise, with no lasting gain. Good is nourishing or maintaining others, for gain or not. That's the most basic possible interpretation, and the simplest needed for this setting.
Also, try not to overthink a story. Analyzing is fine, but doing nothing else prevents enjoyment.
3486563 basically, Discord is neutral in this regard.
Ponies think he is evil because of what he does to them.
But Discord believes he is helping ponykind for having them over come their limitations.
He causes 'bad' stuff to happen so ponykind can learn and grow.
Hmm...
My head hurts.
And I am the one who thought up this concept.
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No, I agree with that. He's the avatar of Change, but he goes too far, the same way pure Order causes stagnation.
The world needs balance to allow life to thrive, but Order and Chaos are absolutes. The way Discord went about things is what made him 'evil' because his methods disrupted day-to-day life without any form of enrichment. Celestia's thousand years of Orderly Rule have allowed pony life to stabilize, but most of its advancement has happened since things started going wrong when Luna Returned.
Discord did wrong because he wasn't doing his job right. They called him evil because he caused them distress without any apparent gain, and he went too far.
Celestia has done wrong because she's gone to far, and only recently fostered any noticeable progress, resulting in a hydroelectric dam and steam power for the villages nearest it. It's likely magic has turned it to wireless power projection, like Tesla could've made possible if GE hadn't buried that project for fear of going out of business.
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Evil is good gone wrong. It's parasitic. It can't exist without good. But good can and DOES exist without it. Why do you think the devil or demons in so many tales were once fallen angels or the like? They were good, but became CORRUPTED. That's what evil is: good gone spoiled.
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Evil is not lack of good, it's the specific denial of it. Good is rising above that, and continuing betterment.
Remember that Satan's original only sin was that he stated that God was full of shit saying he had to bow down to what Lucifer saw as a lesser race, without explanation.
Lucifer's sin was thinking for himself.
Decay is natural, but corruption is supposedly evil, even though it's just natural. Evil is specifically going against good, not a lack of it.
The opposite of both Good and Evil is Apathy, a lack of any care towards either.
Only excess is truly evil, even the seven deadly sins of christian lore are nothing but excesses of natural functions required for survival.
Good cannot live without Choice, and neither can Evil, stealing that Choice, though, is evil, because you are preventing others from even seeking Good for themselves.