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Veneer - Trick Question



After the Great Change, King Thorax is the last bug in the Hive to learn an important truth: something obvious he overlooked in his zeal for sharing love.

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Veneer

The open-air plateau of the hive had been covered with canvas to protect it from the elements. It bore a striking resemblance to the type of large, makeshift tents that Thorax and the others would erect for Queen Chrysalis out on the battlefield, back in the days of war.

These were markedly different times. King Thorax stood among the rubble of the ancient throne, a once-powerful artifact which no longer protected his people. It didn't feel right to clear the area of what remained of the sacred stone. Even to sit upon the wreckage seemed sacrilegious. So Thorax simply stood amid the rubble each day until his legs were weary, and then he left to sleep while his subjects kept watch. Eventually, the king intended to enlist outside help to restore the throne... assuming such a feat were even possible.

It had only been three days since the Great Change, yet King Thorax was clearly fatigued. The days seemed to be getting longer, but it was late Autumn, so he knew this wasn't the case. His legs were simply tiring sooner with each passing day. The love of his brothers sustained him, but it was thin in the air. Most of the changelings were clearly hungry. They seemed happy not to be starving, at least.

Today, even the king himself felt peckish. Perhaps it was harder for changelings to generate love without beings of other races available to assist. It had only been three days, however, and he was unusually patient for a changeling. The others were still adjusting to their new bodies, and it would probably take more time for them to learn how to share love properly.

"King Thorax?" came the voice of a guard, rousing his attention. Thorax didn't know how long the bug had been standing there, right in front of him. He'd dozed off while standing upright, as he tended to do a few times per day.

"I am sorry, citizen. I've been tired lately," he said. The embarrassment in his voice was clear. Thorax was a poor changeling when it came to disguises. It was a defect which likely led to his defection in the first place, and ironically led him to become the leader of a people whose skills surpassed his own. Changelings were a people he did not exemplify. In fact, prior to the recent radical upheaval in the Hive's social order, Thorax had been in many respects the least of all changelings.

Despite the king's bashful tone, the changeling before him showed no signs of disrespect. He stared reverently up to his new leader, in the same way as any of his brothers. Thorax's natural form was imposing, perhaps even more so than Chrysalis had been: large and strong, as bright and vibrant as she was dark and dismal, with massive mandibular horns, and magic flowing from all three of his chitinous cranial protrusions whenever he focused. He was still learning how to use his new magic, but even his clumsy attempts at telekinesis seemed to marvel his subjects.

"There's nothing wrong with being tired, my king," said the changeling, bowing down. "You are our leader, and we understand the crown is heavy."

King Thorax hated this kind of formality. He wasn't a leader by nature, even though he embraced his duty without hesitation. He'd been fated to rule, much like Starlight Glimmer and Twilight Sparkle before her.

Unfortunately, it was neigh-impossible for Thorax to speak informally with his subjects. For one thing, he couldn't recognize a damned one of them since the Great Change. Nobuggy looked anything like they used to. After three days, King Thorax was still the only changeling everybuggy else could recognize on sight. It didn't matter much, at least: none of the changelings had maintained friendships before the Great Change. Each of them needed to meet and get to know the others again, anyway.

"Which one are you?" asked Thorax, as he used his magic to lift his subject's pastel-colored face to meet his gaze.

"Stain-click," answered the subject, with a buzz of his shimmering wings. "But... does that matter?"

King Thorax smiled a weary grin. "Well, yes. I want to know you," he said.

Stain-click grinned, but it only lasted a moment. "Sire, about that. I need to speak with you. It's... about the love."

Thorax nodded. "I've noticed it's rather thin, yes. We need to implement some programs to teach our people how to share love more openly," he said. "I've been working on the problem. You seem like a good bug to have on the execution team."

Stain-click's eyes widened. "I'm honored, my king. But, um, I think we really need to have that talk first."

"Yes?" said King Thorax, looking a bit perplexed.

"In private," added Stain-click, his voice suddenly hushed.

"Oh," said Thorax, and he clicked his beak nervously. "Well, alright. Lead the way."

Stain-click nodded, and led the king down a tunnel into the hive, and through an alcove portal. They entered a very small bubble of stone, just as all the exits closed. The two changelings were surrounded on all sides by solid rock. Thorax instinctively knew they had about ten minutes until the next portal freed them from the tiny room.

"Go ahead," said Thorax, and he lay on the floor, no longer hiding his exhaustion. Stain-click remained standing.

"Yes, sire. It's about the love. It's pretty thin, as you know. Our people are hungry," said Stain-click. "We're not starving like before, so it's still much better than lean times, but it's not as nice as a feed."

Thorax nodded and sighed. "I know. I think we can fix this with friendship training," he said. "But it may take some time. We've only been like this for three days now..."

"Four," corrected Stain-click.

"Right, four," said Thorax, with a small cough. Had it actually been four days already? He couldn't remember, but Stain-click's message began to sink in. "Wait... Stain-click, are you concerned that our people are growing restless already?"

Stain-click shook his head. "The opposite, my king! Everybuggy would go to the ends of Equestria in your name. Nobuggy here holds fealty any longer to Queen... Queen You-know-who," he said. "Right now is still much better than the worst of times. I'm sure your plans will make things better still."

Thorax yawned and briefly flexed his tongue in a snake-like motion. "I see. Well, that seems like good news. Why the secrecy, then?"

Although the chamber was sealed on all sides, Stain-click looked all around him before responding. "I apologize on behalf of everybuggy, your highness. But... there's something we've been hiding from you."

"Oh?" said Thorax, his neck drooping. "Actually, I was a little worried about this. I've sensed that some of our people have been hiding things since the Great Change. How many of your brothers know about this 'secret' of yours?"

Stain-click closed his eyes solemnly. "All of them, sire. You are the last to know," he said, his voice cracking. "We drew straws to see who would tell you, and I lost. I will accept whatever punishment you have in store."

I'm their king, and I'm the last one to know. The truth stung like a hot spinneret.

King Thorax did his best not to show the trepidation that rippled through his exoskeleton. He stretched and stood up straight, putting on his best poker face—which wasn't very good, but perhaps it was the thought that mattered.

After the little changeling opened his eyes again, Thorax smiled gently. "You're not in any trouble. Don't be afraid, just be honest with me."

"Bless you, sire," said Stain-click. He winced briefly, then continued, "The fact is simple. Some of the changelings have not experienced the Great Change."

"What?" said Thorax. He momentarily stiffened in place before relaxing his posture a little. "Oh! You mean there are changelings we have yet to reach, like the ones on patrol away from the Hive. Yes, I assumed that."

The smaller changeling closed his eyes again and shook his head. "No, sire. I mean those of us here with you now."

Thorax looked horrified. "That—some of you haven't changed? But... how?" he gasped.

Stain-click stood there, patiently waiting for his king to understand, but saying nothing. It only took a few moments.

The truth struck Thorax like a falling boulder. It was so obvious; how could he have missed it? It was his boundless optimism at fault, he realized. All this time, he'd been blinded by what he wanted to believe was true. But the facts were unmistakable.

We're changelings. We can look like anything.

"Some of our brothers... they never truly changed," King Thorax finally said, his voice slow and soft. "They changed their appearance to look like those of us who did, didn't they?"

"We just wanted to fit in, and we wanted it so badly," said Stain-click with a morose frown, as his form reverted in a whirl of familiar green energy to the black, fanged, hollow-and-broken form of which Thorax was all too familiar. "It was our duty to follow suit, yet we didn't know how... We wanted to tell you, but we didn't want to disappoint our new leader."

"Of course... this is all you've ever known in life. It's probably a miracle anybuggy was able to change," admitted Thorax, and then he gulped audibly. "How many are there?"

"Eleven," said Stain-click.

"Eleven haven't changed?" said Thorax. "Okay, that's fine. We can fix this. We'll start working one-on-one with you..."

Stain-click grimaced. "No, sire. Only eleven have changed, including you! The thousands who remain have not. But we are fully loyal to you, King Thorax, I swear it!"

King Thorax opened his mouth, then paused a moment in thought before speaking. "That's only because I'm currently the one in power, isn't it?" he realized.

The little changeling—even smaller now without his false mirage of apotheosis—shrugged his rickety shoulders, and a confused look crossed the hard black rims of his little blue eyes. "Well, of course. Why else would we follow you?"

Thorax sighed. "Right. Well, we don't have time to waste. We need to change the rest of our brothers very soon. It will ensure we can feed the Hive to satiation, and it will protect us should Chrysalis ever return. Or when she returns, rather—I fear that's a certainty."

"Many of us have attempted it, sire, numerous times," said Stain-click. "We've gathered in groups, and tried to share love with each other, but it's so hard!" He hissed angrily, his little tongue whipping out of his mouth in distaste. "Other bugs are so stupid and mean and wrong, and it's so much easier to fight than agree on things!"

Thorax did his best to hide the hopelessness he was feeling, deep inside. "Does everybuggy know who among us have truly changed?" he asked.

Stain-click nodded. "It's common knowledge, now. Once you meet the ten others, I mean. The True Changed have higher status in the Hive because they are more like you, sire, so knowing them is a requirement for all of us. They don't seem to want to boss us around, though."

"Please, tell me more about the Changed," requested Thorax.

"Besides you, there were nine others who helped to banish the queen. A tenth was able to change afterwards, with great effort," said Stain-click. "He is the one who renamed himself Gossamer. We all call him by that name now, as his desire is Law. The rest of us have had no success. There is jealousy brewing, but no danger of mutiny. We each know and accept our place in the Hive."

"Hmm. I'm pretty sure I remember who Gossamer is, because of the name thing. He spoke to me briefly a day or two ago. I definitely want to speak with him more. In the meantime, I'll send two of the other nine as emissaries to Twilight Sparkle in order to enlist her immediate aid," said Thorax.

A tiny smile crossed Stain-click's little black muzzle. "I knew you would know what to do, sire."

Thorax smiled back, but it wasn't very convincing. What if the Great Change were incredibly difficult for most changelings? For that matter, what if it were impossible? Perhaps most changelings had no chance at all to experience the Change! Bickering and bitterness were a part of their very nature, even as infants. Thorax was a mutant, completely different from his brothers, stretching all the way back to the very day he'd been hatched. If no others could change, he'd be left with a Hive of hungry changelings, only a hoofful of them capable of sharing love to help feed the rest. Yes, they could survive like this, but not comfortably. The Hive would be weak to attack, and all but defenseless without the anti-magic of the ancient throne.

Perhaps the Princess of Friendship would save them, or her insightful student... or even that crazy draconequus. At least they could receive some assistance for a little while, as the king blindly struggled to teach his brothers how to love. It was something he personally had never needed to learn, since it came naturally. How do you teach a feeling of compassion? Can something like that even be taught? How? Thorax didn't have a clue where to begin.

Maybe there was a good reason changelings hadn't found this path before now. King Thorax might be leading a dying people in their last days. But his heart began to settle, and the tension in his now-softer chitinous shell slowly faded away.

In a sad way, leadership was easy when there was only one thing left to do. With that epiphany, his smile grew convincing and true, and he could see a hint of Stain-click's pleasure as the little changeling quietly fed upon his sire's compassion.

Whatever the cost, King Thorax would love his subjects to the end. After all, he'd been born that way.

Comments ( 58 )

The epilogue's gonna have eleven dead changelings being quietly buried out back, Thorax hosting an emergency summit and inviting every Equestrian princess to discuss the problem, and a Dark tag, isn't it. :trixieshiftright:

Hoping for more

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Oh, you. :ajbemused:

(I actually thought I left this one pretty upbeat, considering. But it's already self-contained because it conveys the message I wanted to convey... at least to me.)

7722251 Are you one of the eleven changelings?

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Knowing horizon, I'd imagine he's twenty-six of them.

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As it says in my user page, I am not a changeling. :ajsmug:

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Yeah, I was editing my original post when you responded and I wrote this into it: "Yeah, I can totally see this though. Good on you for actually managing to avoid going Dark with the implications. Certainly food for thought!" Gonna put it in here instead to thread it with what you said (even though we both were remarking on it at the same time).

Well it got... Dramatic. I hope to see how Thorax saves his hive

7722302 You're overdoing it with the AJ icon.

We already know.

This an insightful yet intriguing look into both Changling social and mental interactions. I thank you for this glimpse of such a scenario.

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It was, uh, ironic Applejack emoji emphasis?

I :ajsmug: AM :ajsmug: NOT :ajsmug: A :ajsmug: CHANGELING :ajsmug:

Because I'm ever the optimist and have a soft spot for the changelings, I like to think Thorax works out a solution of some sort that keeps things going just fine. To be sure, the first few weeks to months are probably going to be the hardest, but with that determination Thorax shows, I feel confident it'll all still work out. :twilightsmile:

I realize it's a one-shot, but there's a lot of potential for a larger story here, so I put in a vote that you consider exploring that if possible. :pinkiehappy:

... déja vu. Have I read a version of this before? :rainbowhuh:

7722544 I agree this story doesn't need to stop here. Right now it's just an idea.

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The story is referring to the events of s06e16 "The Times They Are a Changeling", in which it was revealed that Thorax was never psychologically like any of his brothers. His Change is not a disguise, but only he and ten other changelings in the Hive have managed to undergo the Great Change. All the others faked it to fit in with their new leader.

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I haven't read any other changeling stories, so it's possible I've replicated some elements found in others' works. But if so, it was done entirely blind—honest AJ. :applejackunsure:

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I understand the desire for continuation when a story ends on a hopeful note, but I may be thinking of something different when I say "story" than what you both mean by "story".

To me, the story isn't the narrative. What's written here is merely a little vignette that barely scratches the surface of an interesting idea, sure. But what happens in the story (or in its possible sequelae or prequels) isn't what the story is about. Some of my stories have sequelae or prequels planned, but that's because I have more to say on a related topic that I can use the original story as a springboard to approach the idea more quickly. It's not because the original story was incomplete.

This can be a difficult sell when readers become attached to the characters and have just begun to immerse themself in feels, but the end of this minific already says what I want the story to say. I'm not opposed to others picking up my works and doing stuff with them as long as credit is offered and it's clearly marked noncanonical from my POV, for the record, but before you decide to travel that road, consider this...

If something terrible happens to likeable protagonists in a story, but the power of the experience allows you, the reader, to realize an important lesson that could help better your life: is that a happy story or a sad story? If in some sense it's actually a happy story, even in just the tiniest measure, extending the story to make the reader feel better about its conclusion might actually make the story worse... even if readers would prefer it for comfort's sake. :pinkiesmile:

Just a thought. I don't think there's a right and a wrong here. :raritywink:

7722700
I totally hear you on this. I've written my own stories where I could've easily kept going on with, but stopped anyway because I had said what I had sought to say, and felt pressing past that point would more likely "ruin the moment" as it were.

Still, I thought I'd ask just in case a continuation was on the table anyway. :twilightsmile:

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I'll endeavor to think about where else this story might go. Maybe someday I'll come up with something more I can use it to say. :twilightsmile:

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I'll keep an eye out, then. :twilightsmile:

Why isn't there a Thorax tag yet? I almost missed this great short.

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Which leaves the possibility open that you're the changeling. I think you need to work on rectifying that. :)

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There isn't even a Moondancer tag yet, for goodness' sake. They've delayed adding character tags for a couple of years now, so I'm not holding my breath.

(This is a fact of which I am well aware.)

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Trick Question, this story is excellent. Thank you so much for sharing this! I love the point you make, and I love that Thorax is determined to love his subjects to the end. This resonates with me. I too see an interesting idea I'd love to see further explored, but I understand what you're saying when you're using the narrative to tell a story, and that that story, the emotional idea of it, is complete. An extension...wouldn't be all emotion like this is. Still, I would love to see what happens. I guess I can dream it up for myself, though. The concept of this is clever (at least, it certainly never occurred to me) and the point is wonderful. Thank you again!

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Aww, thank you so much! :twilightblush: I'm really glad you enjoyed it.

Now if only a hoofful of ponies hadn't disliked it enough to downvote! Ah, but the Feature Box is a cruel, competitive mistress. I think this will be one of those stories that sits and licks at her edges, but just barely, never quite enters. Entirely my fault: I shouldn't make assumptions about my works and act so vainglorious as to remain in constant suspense (like I always seem to).

:derpytongue2:

7722700

To me, the story isn't the narrative. What's written here is merely a little vignette that barely scratches the surface of an interesting idea, sure. But what happens in the story (or in its possible sequelae or prequels) isn't what the story is about. Some of my stories have sequelae or prequels planned, but that's because I have more to say on a related topic that I can use the original story as a springboard to approach the idea more quickly. It's not because the original story was incomplete.

Since you went there...

I'm all for stories that don't grind out the inevitable conclusion, or even show the events they're ostensibly about. See eg my arguments with Applejinx in the comments of "The gift of Lethe", or better, with Pascoite in the comments on "After the races".

But in both those cases, the story is a "story" because it handles things in a holistic, non-rational manner. It isn't an essay. You can't paraphrase the story without changing its meaning. I call "story" (and I should have another phrase for that, maybe "non-didactic literary story") a subset of narratives which has, e.g., a particular set of people and circumstances too complex to be summarized in any way shorter than describing them in a story, and also complex enough that those particularities bring out qualitative consequences that wouldn't be present in a simpler, more schematic version.

When I said this is just an idea, that was in that respect a negative critique, meaning that I think while reading the full chapter makes the story's idea more vivid, it doesn't change it qualitatively. You can paraphrase this story, which I think is a problem. Sorry.

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You can paraphrase this story, which I think is a problem. Sorry.

Don't be sorry! :pinkiesmile: It's a valid critique, and I actually agree in large part. As much as I enjoy what I wrote, over time I'm starting to feel that I didn't do much more here than present a conflict (I don't mean the narrative conflict, I mean the philosophical one), but fail to resolve it with an actual thesis that has meat. Sort of, "here's an idea, but no presentation of facts to support any of the possible conclusions".

Because of that, I've been considering expanding this further into an actual exploration of the idea. It wouldn't be a short minific, though. It'd probably be a mid-sized short story. I'm not quite sure how to handle that on Fimfiction. I'll probably wait at least a week or two (if not significantly longer; I just mean that if I somehow wrote the entire thing today, I'm not going to publish it while this is still buried in the PS column), and then release it as a sequel.

EDIT: When I say "I'm not sure how to handle on Fimfiction", I mean, would it be better in some sense to just add chapters to this story and mark it Incomplete? I'm not sure.

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Actually, scratch that. I'm certain enough at this point that I want to extend the story (and I'm 90% set on where it will be headed) that I'm going to mark it Incomplete right now.

I'll be making a blog post on this shortly, but in the meantime, I might as well give details here. So, here is a note to all other commenters: 7722253 7722262 7722302 7722340 7722544 7722663 7722672 7723708 7723779 7723889


PLEASE NOTE: After a bit of thought and debate, I've grown keen on stretching this story out further. And rather than make a sequel, I'd like to keep the whole work combined in one place. Therefore, I'm marking the story Incomplete for now. I'll post a blog entry later today to describe the details. I expect the fully completed story will be around 6k with what I have planned, but that's a wild guess and I frequently tend to underestimate such things.

One thing I need to be clear on: the story will gain more tags as it gains chapters. This is true both for character tags and story tags. All I can promise at present is that the story will remain E, and I do not plan on making it a Tragedy in the future (although I tend to avoid that tag anyway except when essential, for philosophical reasons). I'm not sure on the timeline for completion, but probably less than a month.

Also, I reserve the right to retroactively lie about all of this. :derpytongue2: :ajbemused: Okay, probably not. :twilightblush:

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I'm a helper enabler! :trollestia:

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I look forward to any additional stuff you may write I on this! Thanks for letting me know; I'm going to add it to my tracking right now :twilightsmile: I really do love this minific here.

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Or perhaps:

An enameler? Though that involves teeth, doesn't it? :rainbowhuh:

Mike

The lings like Thorax now but if he can't feed them sooner or later there will be a regime change. It might not be violent but it will be unpleasant.

7724344 take your time, I wager I will enjoy the end results.

I guessed something like this would happen. All the other changlings changed immediately upon seeing Thorax defeat Chrysalis, it felt like politicians putting on flag pins.
I wonder if this will end with all changlings moving in with ponies.

If Thorax is sad about this news, wait until they tell him he has to start laying eggs!

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If Thorax is sad about this news, wait until they tell him he has to start laying eggs!

I'd been thinking about that too. Hasbro hasn't been brave enough to broach the subject of how exactly changelings breed. As far as we know, they're all sexless except the queen, who is female and reproduces asexually. I don't think Hasbro wants to propose the idea of a harem-like structure. :rainbowwild: :facehoof:

There are other implications, but I won't discuss them here because there's a chance they'll be touched upon (at least briefly) in future chapters.

Love this concept, and the phrases you used, like "everybuggy" - so cute and apt! I wonder that the entire hive is male, though, since some of the changed changelings didn't have horns; I also love Thorax's characterization here, determined to love all his subjects. I think in a way that's why they're not completely starving, since he loves them all. Also, he learned how to speak formally I see- maybe greater power gives him more self confidence? XD

Comment posted by Flapjaw deleted Nov 16th, 2016

7725154 Honestly, considering the fact that changlings have a bit more individuality to them I always figured that they simply were allowed to either breed normally (Standard sexual habits) with the eggs going into a more social based nursing area to be taught by nurses with no attachment to parents or they have their own nurse/breeding system rather then the queen.

I mean really could anyone imagine Chrysalis taking the time off to actually sit down for months? Considering if it was a standard Queen social structure she'd be more of a prisoner rather then her 'Lord over the individual' style.

Honestly I am just glad to be seeing a story of this type that isn't going "The new changelings are bad because they are traitors!"

Sorry. Your story had a like/dislike ratio of 66/6, but I had to break the darkest number with an upvote.

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You didn't ask for random Christian trivia, but you're getting it! :derpytongue2:

Oddly enough, most Protestants tend to refer to 666 as "the number of the Beast" because it's the mark the Beast uses—but the number is literally referred to as "the number of Man" in Revelations. The number itself isn't marked as bad, but the way it is used as a record of citizen loyalty.

Probably the best guess at the relevance of 666 is that it refers to the first six Roman numerals in descending order: DCLXVI. The early Church saw Rome as the great enemy (it was a government not always super-friendly toward the Jewish people or their cults), so most of the references to Bad Things are not-so-subtle jabs at Rome.


That said, I'm not positioning myself as an expert on the topic, and I'm going to redact the rest of my comment here because I think it came off as being condescending toward people of faith, which is not cool. My apologies.

Subliminal and associated ponies have performed a reading of the first chapter of Veneer:

They didn't know at the time that I would be extending it to a multi-chapter story (and to be honest, neither did I), but they've expressed an interest in performing a reading for future chapters as well. This is perfectly fine by me. :twilightsmile:

It's stated that changelings here have a strong drive to fit in. It was remarkable, imo, that Gossamer and the others were able to fully transform in under four days, when Thorax had a head start thanks to his friendship with Spike. Thorax also had a sort of halfway transformation, what with the shimmmery wings and all (though, granted, he was for almost all practical purposes an unascended changeling wishing to be something more). But more importantly, Thorax had to look beyond the hive to Spike to learn of friendship. Then, once again, he's on the right track with getting the Princess of Friendship to help. Maybe these transformations take a combination of time and close friendships. Friendship is Magic, after all...

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The fact that only nine out of thousands present were able to succeed likely speaks the the rarity of the ability. The motivating factor of "desire to fit in" might be closer to "innately drawn to serve and emulate the most powerful bug in the Hive". However, these are just suggestions based on the clues given: the story isn't entirely clear yet on the truth.

(Which is one of the reasons I'm extending it.) :twilightsmile:

CCC

Well, this is an interesting story idea. I really like how the unchangedlings are trying so hard to fit in - even if it's just because Thorax defeated the previous leader.

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> It's kind of hard to believe a third of the stars in the sky fall to Earth when you live in a time when we actually know what the hell stars are

Personally, I'd always suspected that part might refer to a really bad meteor shower.

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There are plenty of apologetics that fit... but I'm going to redact most of this because I don't intend to either start a religious argument or imply necessarily negative things about the nature of faith. :derpytongue2:

I apologize for sounding off without using my brain. It was insensitive and dumb.

7726285

It's kind of hard to believe a third of the stars in the sky fall to Earth when you live in a time when we actually know what the hell stars are, but that doesn't stop billions of people from their faith

No offense, but the way you worded that part kinda made it seem like a lot of people ignore facts in favor of their faith. I admit that some do that, but just as many are interested in the facts. I'm sorry, it's just that that last part came off as a little condescending.

To clarify, I've absolutely no intent of starting a religious debate here or in private; those can get really ugly. XD I just wanted to speak my mind on that one part.)

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You're right, it did seem condescending, and I apologize. :ajsleepy:

I didn't intend to imply that faith is mutually incompatible with acknowledgement of fact. I'll redact most of those two posts.

…intriguing.

...Hmmm.

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