Just your average Brony who happened upon an idea that might actually turn out to be clever enough for guys to love.
It's just a normal day in Ponyville, and Twilight Sparkle is meeting with her friends. Everything is safe. Everything is sane. Everything is normal. Everything is happy. Nopony is psychotic. Therefore, something MUST BE WRONG!!! And Twilight Sparkle shall find out what!
Not having anything to do with the Pony Pov Series.
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I don't get it. Is this supposed to be a shot against Darkfics in general or parodying the POV series?
5235248 It isn't just dark fics. That time loop one mentioned is a (an absurdly long and still ongoing) story currently on this site, and despite the premise isn't really that dark. Although they are the very definition of overpowered. Dash breaking the light barrier with her speed, Rarity making clothes out of water and air, the C.M.C. constructing our modern day battleships and duking it out.
It's definately an interesting story with it's moments, but holy shit is it dragged and prolonged through every ditch in the state.
Point it, that can't be the point of this story.
I find it somewhat odd that you're ranting about how dark and OOC so many writers make their versions of Equestria compared to the shit you dump on everyone in your own Pony POV series.
At least three of those sounded like some of my stories, at least in places. Though I tend to apply the darkness in relatively small doses, and mostly to give the heroines something against which to strive.
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He's mocking Pony POV too.
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Are you referring to Dark world? Dark World was me writing the most bleak setting I could AT THE START, and still have a gum drops and rainbows happy ending. Compared to MANY stories that start out gum drops and rainbows and then becoming the most depressing thing imaginable, or start out miserable and bleak, and are just several chapters of a characters futile struggle against the inevitable. And how many bleak settings follow a 'status quo is god' attitude. That they end up facing a living breathing 'ex machina' at the end that's sole purpose is to KEEP everything miserable and bleak and OVERCOME this attempt to smack them all back down and gain a full blown happy ending for everypony is a major point as well.
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This wasn't intended so much as mocking as parodying, and I asking myself "how would it go for a canon character to SEE all these bleak versions?" And yeah, that was a parody of the pony pov series dark world as well.
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Ironically I wasn't thinking of your stories at the time. Some of these were intended to be a bit generic given their use in the fandom.
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A good way to describe this story is "Twilight Sparkle looks up fanfiction in universe and accidentally runs into the nasty stuff." And yeah, Dark World IS mentioned in there too. I wrote dark world ironically as an INVERSION of typical dark fics.
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Indeed.
5235763 No, I'm referring to regular Pony POV which, despite what you say, is kind of a crummy world.
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Considering changelings have a peace treaty with ponies now, and Chrysalis is off the throne, and the gods aren't jerkasses or incompetent, there's a living breathing erasure that exists to delete any and all mary sues and similar outer reality invaders, no matter how many times ponies are knocked down they rise up to rebuild their civilization as grand as before, ponies where violence and murder and rape are all effectively unheard of, the gods all have a vested interest in sapient life and free will continuing to exist (the only one that doesn't is the devil and is locked away in Tartarus is a prisoner, NOT a ruler, and Hell itself is a nice guy once you get to know him and make sure not to look directly at him), I must humbly object.
5235847 Granted, I'm a bit out of date since I quit reading you partway through Dark World because I stopped caring about everyone and everything involved, I DO recall a few things:
I'd hardly call draconequii NOT jerkasses, Luna is incredibly selfish and immature and incompetent enough to leave a dangerous artifact lying around and not really apologize about it later, Celestia is pretty much indirectly responsible for everything wrong in the world due to an act of childish defiance and too incompetent to put Discord's statue somewhere safe where nobody could release him TWICE IN A ROW, time broke at least once, the world is constantly being rewritten and edited around everyone, and the violence and rape and whatnot being unknown is laughable given that child predator in Canterlot, Diamond Tiara's mom going insane and trying to kill her daughter, Tiara herself being dangerously unhinged, pretty much every pony constantly being on the brink of madness in spite of therapy, and there apparently being so much evil and horror in the world that when Fluttershy ate it all it killed her at least two or three times. And I seem to recall there being a couple of other evil empires out there.
Not to mention your 'not jerks or incompetent' gods couldn't be arsed to bother stopping insane Twilight from relooping Dark World a gajillion times.
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"Granted, I'm a bit out of date since I quit reading you partway through Dark World because I stopped caring about everyone and everything involved,"
"I DO recall a few things:
I'd hardly call draconequii NOT jerkasses,"
*Pandora cries*
"Luna is incredibly selfish and immature and incompetent enough to leave a dangerous artifact lying around and not really apologize about it later,"
This horseapples again?
Considering it was under several security precautions, no on-Alicorn could touch it. At the time, Luna and Celly were the only Alicorns present, had no reason to believe more would come about in the mean time. And Luna was suffering from a thousand years as the insane Nightmare Moon at time.
"Celestia is pretty much indirectly responsible for everything wrong in the world due to an act of childish defiance"
Considering Pinkie Pie casually pointed out early on in Seven Dreams/Nigtmares that just how bloody different the world would be otherwise, and not necessary for the better . . .
"and too incompetent to put Discord's statue somewhere safe where nobody could release him TWICE IN A ROW,"
Discord's release the first time had NOTHING TO DO with the CMC's bickering. So it wasn't that anyone released in the first place at all. And Celestia had Discord at the CENTER of a mind bending maze that was physically impossible for a normal pony to navigate through, fly over, and teleport through.
"time broke at least once,"
That was mortal folly.
"the world is constantly being rewritten and edited around everyone,"
That was due to breaking free of the heart world, and Shining Armor new presence. After that, times calmed down.
"and the violence and rape and whatnot being unknown is laughable given that child predator in Canterlot,"
Except it wasn't a child predator. Sorry.
She was a foal given a clock work body by her father, who died from exhaustion after saving her life, but when she found out the terminally ill foals she had met in the hospital had all died, she decided to 'save' her fellow foals by giving them clock work bodies as well, and use a shell made in the image of her father so people would take her seriously. She's since been apprehended by the Doctor Whooves and Derpy and shown the error of her ways and the clock work foals who had nothing wrong with them restored.
"Diamond Tiara's mom going insane and trying to kill her daughter,"
She's since been cured, and TRIED to kill her daughter in an act of pure absolute insanity. And is spending the entire wedding arc helping the heroes.
"Tiara herself being dangerously unhinged,"
That was due 100% to Discord slowly grinding her down over the course of an entire season.
"pretty much every pony constantly being on the brink of madness in spite of therapy,"
No. Not really.
"and there apparently being so much evil and horror in the world that when Fluttershy ate it all it killed her at least two or three times."
I never said that was why. That had more to do with her taking in the Sunny Town curse.
"And I seem to recall there being a couple of other evil empires out there."
They existed only due to an outer reality-twisting Villain Sue, after the wolf erased him, those evil empire didn't exist.
"Not to mention your 'not jerks or incompetent' gods couldn't be arsed to bother stopping insane Twilight from relooping Dark World a gajillion times."
Except Fauna Luster explained in detail that it was quite the opposite when Twilight Sparkle met her when Twilight became an Alicorn.
And Eclispe's defeat, since she had hard wired herself to every version of herself in existence, retroactive caused her to lose EVERY FIGHT SHE HAD EVER HAD! Meaning every timeline where she exists now ends in her defeat.
I am going to assume the line about celestia and luna being Tirek and Grogar in disguise was a shot at, "A Mighty Demon Slayer Grooms Some Ponies". Great fic but that last chapter was just painful to read, managed to ruin the whole story for me in the last 5000 words.
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Aren't you happy the author retconned it out of existence?
5235996 Well all right then. Thank you for matching all of my arguments.
Unfortunately, I still don't care enough to return to the series. Plus I'm way too far behind. Oh well.
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Oh, I wasn't complaining.
My Equestria's mostly bright on the Dark-O-Meter: my Ponies of Equestria aren't perfect but they tend to be nicer to one another than the citizens of any known Human culture. They're mostly law-abiding, most have strong inhibitions against direct violence save in wartime, and are pretty humane combatants even in war (I don't think that it's plausible that they could always have purely ritual wars like the fight with the Buffalo, and the presence of spears and cannons imply that they sometimes fight real wars, though I do think that they and the Buffalo could in particular have come to social agreements barring serious violence between them, especially as this would be to the benefit of the Buffalo).
Sexually, they tend to be fairly moral by the standards of any real Human culture. The basic template I used for my Equestria was American / British culture c. 1900 with a lot less hypocrisy and willingness to take advantage of the weak and powerless. Hence, lifelong or at least serial monogamy is quite common, with a fairly low incidence of casual and extra-marital sex; pre-marital sex between couples intending to marry is much more common, as it has been in every known Human culture. but most of the time these are betrothed couples. Again, I wanted to make them imperfect enough for both believability and drama.
Government is pretty competent, humane and liberal: as I mentioned in "It's Tough to be a Goddess," Celestia on the one hand wants to protect her little Ponies, but on the other hand is wise enough to avoid having to make every freaking decision for them. My watchword here is "liberal autocracy," which pretty much sums-up Celestia's approach: she tries to safeguard the rights of her subjects even against her own possible impositions, and she lets her subjects do most things that don't directly harm other Ponies.
A major darkness is coming in the Shadow Wars, which derives directly from my main story arc: Equestria's entering a couple of decades during which she -- and eventually all the Powers of Earth -- will have to fight repeatedly for survival against the Night Shadows and those corrupt souls who have allied with them. This is going to involve some terrible large-scale violence and many battles before the ultimate defeat of the Shadows and the peace of a new era. Inevitably, many Ponies will suffer; some of the virtues of Equestrian culture will be lost or reduced; though in the end many good things will also happen (such as a very rapid technological advance).
I liked your story.
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Did he? I know he removed it for awhile then put it back up. He seemed to have originally planned to use it as the springboard for a sequel but I haven't heard anything about it so I assumed he had scrapped those plans.
Probably for the better in the end, that was one of the worst endings to a story I've read in a long time, it's hard to make me feel like an ending is bAd enough to actively dampen my enjoyment of all the previous chapters I had previously read.
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I know how that is.
Twiley
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What fics were you mentioning in this one? I recognize Cupcakes and Pages of Harmony, but that was it.
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Actually, Twiley is how Shining Armor says her name. Twili is how AJ say sit.
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I'd rather readers figure it out for themselves. Many were generic.
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I don't think I've ever heard her say Twili (same as Twilight without the i get. ) Applejack calls her Twi on the show.
5237424 I believe it's just her accent.
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I don't think so. I mean in the show she can pronounce her Es. And she calls her Twi. If it was for whatever reason Twiley [don't know why she would] she'd be able to pronounce it. If I'm mistaken and the author meant to use the shows nickname AJ and RD give her it'd be either Twi or Twilight XD.
Must... resist... urge to link to every fic referenced. So many...
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I'll take that as a compliment.
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It was indeed a compliment. It was our entire fanfic community expressed in a 3000 word scene.
The only thing better would be actual links to everything. I can see it now: "Every single possible thing that could possibly go wrong in MLP:FIM in written form."
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HEHEEHH! That IS a compliment! I'll take that as 'covered all the bases.'
I think I know the bad fanfic vibe that Twilight got. Stories on this site drive me crazy sometimes.
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Welcome to the club.
Good question.
This just makes me smile, I like these kinds of fics, no big adventure, no wacky wierdness that makes you collapse of laughter, just, slice of life. Also this feels like a subtle "Take That" to those who think Rarity is just a social opportunist.
*purses lips together in annoyance* Pinkie, you may have a point, but tact, is a concept you may want to familiarize yourself with.
Same here.
Take That at Fall Of Equestria...
Take That at Freindship is Witchcraft, Mentally Advanced Series and I believe either Pony.MOV or Ultra Fast Pony... you're on a roll.
Take That to Molestia, this might as well be "Take That: The fanfic."
Ok, not even sure what THAT is a Take That to.
That's the AJ we all know and love, a fair buisnesspony.
True, they are jerks, yes, but that's because they're either famous, rich, entitled, or all of the above, besides, there are unicorn celebrities and earth pony celebrities like Hoity Toity, not sure if there are any important pegasi in Canterlot though,
Nopony at all. You're all awesome in your own way.
My headcanon is that Rarity's Drama Queen antics are a way for her to let off steam since I can imagine her job can be quite stressful at times.
Tale That to the MLP Time Loops.
Take That to Nightmare Eclipse.
Take That to that one comic on deviantart.
Take That to clopfics with excessive clop, you're good at this.
When Twilight wants to rant, boy howdy does she rant.
Daaaaaaaaaaaw.
I like that idea, Lightning didn't realize the damage her actions could have caused and due to not having somone to keep her grounded in reality, her ego got out of control.
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It's from a G1/G4 crossover fanfic, the readers hated the reveal so much the author deleted the chapter.
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My headcanon is that Rarity's Drama Queen antics are a way for her to let off steam since I can imagine her job can be quite stressful at times.
Logical.
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I see. The idea in itself, makes no sense, and not in the fun way, Tirek in G1 wanted Eternal Night, Nightmare Moon's goal, not Celestia, so, it's more imaginable that the two knew each other at sme point or another.
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Plus, it doesn't hurt anypony, it can be a bit odd for somepony who doesn't know her, but overall harmless, and probably for those who are used to it, rather amusing. I like to think that Rarity learned how to summon objects, just so she could summon her fainting couch. It's an amusing idea. For me anyway.
Goodness, I know I spotted a lot of those references, but I'm pretty sure I didn't get them all.
Very neat fic.
Twilight...even if Equestria DIDN'T have non-lethal methods of warfare, that wouldn't happen. "Savage" just means "dumb". And nobody EVER won a war by fighting stupid.
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Thanks!
I would like to present a related argument from The Discworld which came to mind when I was reading this, although I'm not sure why it came to mind or how it is related, and would be grateful if you could tell me what the similarity that I know I can see is. Anyway, I find myself entertained by this story in an unusual way.
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Interesting.
And you made me think of this.
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The original version of A Mighty Demon Slayer Grooms Some Ponies, which in the form it reads now mostly makes sense, though is still terribly dark due to the fate of one of the best G1 Ponies.
I don't see the logic behind Celestia being Tirek, though, nor do I see the clues in the chapters which the author retained.
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Considering his goal was Eternal Night, it'd make more sense if he had a hand in Nightmare Moon more than Celestia who tried to stop Nightmare Moon. Just chipping in my two bits.
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Considering his goal was Eternal Night, it'd make more sense if he had a hand in Nightmare Moon more than Celestia who tried to stop Nightmare Moon. Just chipping in my two bits.
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Fall of Equestria deserves as many Take Thats as it can get. What kind of torture fetish misogynyist WROTE that setting!?
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Actually from what I gathered, it was originally a set of pictures a guy requested. I think I remember seeing the requester's name somewhere, but his name escapes me at the moment.
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Actually from what I gathered, it was originally a set of pictures a guy requested. I think I remember seeing the requester's name somewhere, but his name escapes me at the moment.
I enjoyed reading this story and I got most of the references to other well known pony fanfiction out there. Ah Twilight, precious Twilight never change!
Overall a pleasing and funny story well done!
-Frost
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Thanks!