Twilight Gets a Puppy
Season 2
By TDR
The Return of Har-meow-ny,
Episode 2
Epilogue
[Canterlot Castle, two days later]
Princess Celestia sat at the table in her meeting room, sipping a cup of tea. It was a nice peach tea, some what sweet and not that difficult to make. Given what was coming she thought it best not to be drinking anything too fancy. She had also broken out her mithril tea set. It changed the flavor a little, though the sets durability was why she had it out.
The three others in the room with her remained silent as well, but they also remained out of the way of the door and made sure to not get between it and the solar diarch.
A Guard had briefly come in and alerted her that the ones she was waiting for had gotten away from the press and nobles and were now in the castle proper. Nearly all the castle staff and Guards had all taken the rest of the day off with reasons ranging from, 'an old hoof ball injury acting up' to ' buck this, it's above my pay grade'.
At least the last one was honest.
She heard them well before they came close to her door, the hoof falls on the tile floor outside and the varied shouts and ranting.
It wasn't long after hearing that, that the door to her chambers was flung,being knocked off it's hinges and crashing to the floor with a loud bang.
Celestia sighed, she expected Twilight to be mad at her but this was a bit excessive..... wait…........ Celestia blinked..... that wasn't Twilight at the door.
The pink earth pony stormed over the door to Celestia's tea table hopping up onto it, and stomping over to get directly in Celestia's face crushing several pieces of her tea set under hoof like they were tin cans.
“Pinkie Pie?” Celestia stammered.
“I forgave the prank with your bird. But you just made two of my friends go through a massive crowd for a stupid ceremony and I want reasons to not do what I really wanna do for making them freak out right after we got done dealing with your ex.” Pinkie Pie growled poking Celestia's chest with her hoof splattering some of the tea she had stomped through onto Celestia white coat.
“Ummm.” Celestia blinked.
“Talk. Fast.” Pinkie Pie snarled.
“Damage control Pinkie. It was damage control.” Cadence placated from where she had stepped back away from the door. ”Please get off the table and we'll explain.”
The pink earth pony narrowed her eyes at the pretender to pinkness, before she glared back at Celestia and slowly walked backwards off the table, stomping flat a few more tea cups before she sat down on the other side of the table with her form limbs crossed as she continued her glare at Celestia.
Celestia glanced past Pinkie to the others in the doorway. Applejack and Rainbow Dash looked ready to ignore anything they saw in here up to and including Pinkie Pie going postal.
Rarity was fretting over the hem of her rain coat. It was a very 'red' raincoat, with matching boots and hood. The sort of red rain coat that wouldn't show certain colored stains.
Rahs was glaring at her and Luna, but he was also hunched over with a rather large quivering lump on his back under his new maroon coat. He had been carrying Twilight, though he had set her down and Spike was holding up a paper bag for Twilight to hyperventilate into. Celestia was keenly aware that two Sparkle males had not been swept along in the pre-misson speech like the others had.
“I agree with Pinkie Pie, start explaining. Twi had a level two break down the second that ceremony ended and she's been hyperventilating since.” Spike snapped.
“So's Fluttershy.” Rainbow Dash stated patting the lump on Rahs' back.
“Not to change the subject, but who is this?” Rarity asked looking up at the fourth figure in the room with the three Princesses.
“First things first.” Princess Luna stated, her horn lighting up to yank Fluttershy from under Rahs' coat before she gave the flailing pegasus to Cadence. Once that was done she then pulled Rahs into the air before her and held him there as she examined him.
Princess Celestia did the same for the now shrieking Twilight, and Spike found himself picked up by a unfamiliar blue dragon who was a little larger than Celestia.
“GAH!! Watch it with those claws lady, at least buy me dinner first!” Spike grumbled.
“Well?” Cadence asked, giving Fluttershy to Pinkie Pie. She paused a moment looking down at the pair before smiling and backing away from the death glare the pink pony gave her.
“The link is permeated with it. Though like you found with Shining it seems to be more faded that it should be.” Princess Celestia frowned looking over Twilight with out seeming to see her. “That will cause a few problems if it isn't purged from the link. But it isn't as bad as I thought.”
“Agreed.” The Dragoness, Bleu Scale, Goddess of the Storms, nodded turning Spike around in her claws gently as the little drake flailed. “He has some of the same build up and that will cause issues with how he grows, but it's as unpredictable as anything else Discord does. He should be fine.”
“This was as expected, while the traces are there, most of it has already cycled through his system. “ Luna offered.” We believed that were it not for the link the issue would have cleared itself from his system by now. So it is the link itself that is affected. Still most of it seems drawn down his connections, by design he is eating the chaotic energy.”
“Great so the one thing you do right, you do super right, despite the practice being banned.” Bleu rolled her eyes.
“THIS IS NOT EXPLAINING!! WHY IS THERE NO EXPLAINING!?!?!” Pinkie Pie bellowed lifting a hoof and pointing at Celestia and Luna. “Black list one month!”
Celestia raised an eyebrow noting the other Ponyville residents flinch. Luna simply seemed confused.
“Pinkie ah hate tah say it but ah don't think tha Princesses need to come to Ponyville fer their treats.” Applejack stated.
“Oh I know that silly, but recently I got most of Canterlot to agree with the idea. And all those caters at the Gala thought it was a great plan. So did the castle staff I talked to.” Pinkie Pie said cheerfully before turning her doom gaze back to Celestia. The effect was slightly lessened given that Fluttershy was clinging to the pink ponies back.
“Well.... Princesses might ah suggest you start explaining a'fore yah git it worse?” Applejack nodded. “ Tha Black list is not a joke.”
“Start with this.” Spike stated pointing at the Dragon holding him.
“Yes, well, now that I've checked you out I suppose introductions are in order. My Name is Bleu Scale, Goddess of the Dragons and the Storm. I'm here as sort of a back up plan in case you all failed against Discord as well as to check up on you little Prince.”
“Little what?!!” Rarity stammered.
“Hmm? Oh, by right of birth Spike here is pretty much a Prince of Dragons. Granted there's about thirty of those running around and Princesses too, so there's not much to it.” Bleu shrugged. “ But Celestia seemed to think it was important for some reason. Dragons don't care about status, heck even I have to kick the waiters flank before I get a good seat at a restaurant. And I'm their flipping god.”
“ Wait! You're the Dragon god! “ Spike waved his arms excitedly.” Do you actually know who my parents are?”
“I do in this case. Though I will save you the disappointment of further questioning. You are much better off with your pony parents. Dragons tend to be very very claws off when it comes to raising their young. We often have Clutch mothers who watch over a large batch of mixed eggs. Most dragons never meet their parents, nor do many really care. There are of course exceptions, usually when one has a powerful linage.” Bleu explained. “ You were sent here as an egg as you were a stubborn egg that would not hatch. It was thought that perhaps the god of ponies might be able to help you. Hatch... not become a paperweight.”
Bleu glared at Celestia who whistled innocently and Spike simply looked confused.
“In any case if you have any questions that arise about being a dragon I will tell you what is relevant. Just send them to Celestia, she knows how to contact me. Though don't do it too often as I am rather busy.” Bleu claimed getting a glare from both Celestia and Applejack at the obvious lie.
“As to what we are looking for, the Sparkles were touched by chaos, that tends to leave a lingering effects. Ones we can barely detect and that is intertwined with thine link.” Luna offered frowning as she noticed that Rahs was glaring angrily at her. “We do not expect there will be much trouble from this. The taint we can sense in the link is all being drawn to Rahs along with the excess magic he feeds upon. At best we think it will be gone in a month or so.”
“We probably wouldn't have noticed at all if that letter you sent Celestia hadn't exploded in her face when she finished reading it.” Cadence offered.
“Yeaaaaah chaos magic, that's it... we'll go with that.” Twilight muttered. “ All Discord's fault.....”
“That still doesn't explain the ceremony.” Rainbow Dash snapped.
“Agreed, while I am quite thrilled to be recognized for my part in this I am well aware the others are not.” Rarity frowned. ”We managed to come to an agreement that you were correct about Discord so while we are very annoyed that you sent us after your ex, we are not holding that against you Princess.......”
“Speak for yourself.” Spike growled.
“Most of us are not holding it against you. Provided of course that the crown aides in the repair of Ponyville. While much of the chaos went back to normal, having a river dropped in the middle of town washed a number of buildings off their foundations, caused a great deal of damage and flooded every pony's basements. Jynx is also requesting aid as her packs tunnels were flooded from the river. Thankfully most of the farms were outside the 'splash zone' as it were, but all of the business in town are at best in disarray and at worst, washed away. Including mine Princess.” Rarity finished coldly.
“Done.” Celestia stated simply setting Twilight down next to Pinkie Pie. She floated a pile of newspapers up from behind her and dropped them on the table. The papers seemed to come from all over Equestria and there were some from as far as Saddle Arabia, and the Minotaur islands. “This is why we had the ceremony.”
The group gathered around the Table, save Spike who continued to flail and try to get away from the Dragoness holding him and Rahs, who while back on his paws had not left from glaring at a now worried Luna.
“How in tha heck?” Applejack demanded looking over one of the papers.
The groups faces were plastered front page of every single paper. With captions declaring them as the bearers of the Elements of Harmony. Some of the papers went on about how they defeated Nightmare Moon, with several side issues connecting the Nightmare to the long lost Princess Luna. And all of them had photos of the defeat of Discord. All of the pictures were clearly taken either by Discord himself or something near him judging by the point of view shown in them.
“Oh dear. I thought I saw a shutterbug in that clearing, but I was too busy to look.” Fluttershy muttered.
“As a last ditch joke it seems Discord outed the Elements of Harmony.... as well as a large number of my personal journals, to the press across Equss.” Celestia sighed. “Hiding you is no longer an option. However I did plan ahead for something like this. First off the ceremony was to blind side every one who might potentially try to deny or seek to work these claims into their favor. With the crown openly accepting you so quickly it makes it significantly harder for any one else to try and claim a connection. Second the pay that I've been forced to mask in other things can now be brought out into the open and can easily be increased to match your status as heroes.”
“Princess I didn't even do anything this time my friends did all the work and I spent the whole event almost in an artificially created fugue.” Twilight sighed.
“Are you trying for hazard pay?” Celestia raised an eyebrow.
“What no.. it's just.... I didn't do anything...” Twilight pointed out.
“You wielded an Element of Harmony against a threat.“ Bleu chimed in.”We can hardly call that nothing.”
“ Honestly Darling relax, it was not as if we all didn't make some sort of mistake with this.....” Rarity, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash all winced.
[ Yesterday, Ponyville.]
“Hello? Is any one out there? This dumpster seems to be locked and it really, really stinks in here.”
There was banging on one of the lids of the dumpsters that had been washed up against the school house on the other side of Ponyville from where they started.
“Hello?” Fireball called out again, glad there was at least some cloud stuff in the dumpster with her so she wouldn't have to stand in the smelly mess.
“Why is all I can taste jelly foals? What's going on? MOOOOOOM!!!” Button Mash hollered from another dumpster.
“WAIT TIL MY DADDY HEARS ABOUT THIS!!!” Diamond Tiara screeched from the last dumpster.
[ Canterlot Castle]
“Yeah..... really glad Cheerilee went to check on the school, cause I completely forgot about them.” Rainbow Dash rubbed the back of her head.
“Moving on past that I have contingencies for all this. The Ponyville Guard Post will be getting more funding and become a larger post. The new building will be placed on the edge of town in order to be a buffer from the forest and the town itself. The Guard increase in town shall also necessitate the upgrading of a number of town facilities including a hospital and other government funded aide as need be. I will be speaking to the Mayor at a later time for a full list of what is needed.” Celestia listed.
“We have these to present to thee as well.” Luna smirked a little as she gave Applejack, Rahs, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, and oddly Fluttershy, each a rolled scroll.
“What's this?” Fluttershy asked quietly.
“That one is actually for Angel Bunny. They are hunting permits for paparazzi, nobles, and other ner-do -wells that might seek to cause trouble for thee now that thine presence is known. You cannot simply send the problems to Tartarus of course, but we expect that some property damage, equipment destruction, and mild injury to the offending parties will be easily accepted.” Luna explained. That these permits exist have been spread along with the information that the crown would prefer thou to be left alone.”
“I cannot believe I let you talk me into that.” Celestia sighed.
“Woof.” Rahs demanded simply. Luna's eyes widened and the others who could understand him whirled to look at the Moon Princess.
“We told you there are no such things as Witch....” Luna began.
“BORK!” Rahs snapped slapping his chest with a paw.
“Thou became one.......” Luna's eyes seemed to get even bigger.” That should not be possible..........”
“BARK.” Rahs explained.
“It would be kind of hard to miss all the teeth and claw marks on that statue we sent back.” Twilight frowned. “Discord turned Rahs into the very image of how the old legends described a Witch Wolf.”
“Given all the information we gathered before you came back, we know Witch Wolves existed. We've got hard evidence and even another name. Sik Imitaa.” Spike explained watching Luna wince at the name.
“With what we already know, in time we can probably find the whole story. Even if we have to track down another god and ask them.” Twilight threatened. “If you want to continue claiming to be Rahs' grand mother, we want answers before something else happens.”
Rahs simply glared at Luna an nodded.
The room was quite silent as all eyes fell on Luna. The night princess seemingly wilting in on herself.
“Ease up for now Sparkles.” Bleu Scale stated with a sigh, suddenly breaking the silence as she finally put Spike down. “It's not easy for one to explain their biggest failures in life. Doubly so for gods. Give her time and I'm sure she'll let you know.”
“We.....we.... thank you for that Bleu.” Luna muttered.
“Don't thank me yet, if you don't tell them what happened, I will. And my version of things does not paint you in a favorable light, Vulon Vol.” Bleu frowned as Luna winced again at a name.
Rahs frowned adding another name to the list of names he had heard Luna refereed to. He honestly didn't care what Luna had done, at least not without hearing about it first, but he wanted to know some way to be changed back to normal if he ever went that far again.
Unlike Spike, who was too dumb to recall what happened, and Twilight who was to apathetic to bother to pay attention to anything going on, he recalled his time as a Witch Wolf completely.
It was nothing but rage and hate. Overpoweringly so.
No. That wasn't quite it.
There was no real rage, there was no real hate either. Certainly he felt anger at discord, but it was secondary.
All he felt was joy.
Joy at wanton destruction. Joy at making some one suffer. Joy for causing pain and at trying to kill. Thankfully the Chaos god remained intact and active enough to hold his attention.
If he hadn't, and Rahs had gone into town in that state......
Rahs shuddered.
Things would have been much much worse than just a river washing through the town, had Discord managed to get away from him earlier. He almost wanted to thank the annoying god for that, whether he knew what he was doing or not.
Rahs glared at Luna again, the Goddess of the Night not meeting his gaze. He needed to know what might change him into that so he could avoid it at all costs, or destroy it so there would be no risk.
This made two things he had to hide from his siblings and friends. Rarity knew about what happened in the tunnels and the others seemed to have some idea of what he became. Spike and Twilight didn't and he wanted to keep it that way.
“Hey Cadence, what happened to my big brother? “ Twilight asked suddenly. “ Did he get changed by Discord due to the link too?”
The pink mare paled as the logic of it slapped her across the face.
“Gottagobye” Cadence stated tearing out of the room at a speed that made some of them think she finally learned to teleport.
“What was that about?” Spike asked.
[Canterlot Hospital]
Shining Armor shifted a bit in the body cast he was currently in. His nose itched something fierce and even with the pain killers the doctors gave him , he hurt all over.
He still had no clue what the heck had happened either.
[Canterlot Castle]
“As much as I would like to let you all go to rest there is something else that has come up that I wish to pass onto you.” Celestia sighed.
“So help me if it's another ex.” Rainbow Dash grumbled.
“It may be.. I'm not sure yet.” Celestia offered.
“THAT WAS A JOKE!” Dash screamed beating her head against a wall.
“Madness, Envy, Lust, Magic, Greed, and Pride, all with a fiery purple blue center.” Celestia stated the words drawing everyone's attention.
“ What's that supposed to mean?” Twilight asked.
“ It's a prophecy. And annoying one, but one that's starting to come to pass.” Bleu Scale offered.
Twilight considered.” The madness means Discord doesn't it?”
“That was what we concluded.” Celestia stated. “ Though that was the easy part. Envy, Lust, Magic, Greed, and Pride are all mysteries still. And aside from magic, they all seem like threats.”
“What about the last bit?” Spike asked.
“That I think we have figured out.” Bleu commented pointing a claw at Spike. “ Firey.” Then to Twilight.” Purple.” Then to Rahs.” Blue.”
“It means that you three are going to be at the center of this, and likely the other Element Bearers as well. Given who gave this prophecy, it will come to pass whether we fight it or not.” Celestia sighed. “ I really hate this cryptic nonsense.”
“Bork.” Rahs growled.
“She's not black Rahs... and neither is the kettle I smushed , that's more silvery.... though given her size I can see the kettle.” Pinkie Pie offered getting a glare from Celestia one that was countered with a rather creepy smile from Pinkie.
“At any rate that is all we have. All my cards are on the table with this now Twilight.” Celestia sighed. “ So what are you going to do?”
Next Chapter: Celestia discovers true horror, as she learns what it means to be blacklisted!
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good chapter, love how the dragon god is there but sad she did tell spike he one of her children, though I have feeling during the dragon migration he learn that.
also good job pinkie pie on expand the black list to the castle and cantalot, I bet close to half of the nobles will be on it within a week.
Mithril stands no chance against angry pink pones
This was a great arc, and I really enjoyed the alternate takes. Some of my favorite episodes are in season two, so I can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Cheers!
Madness - Discord
Envy - Nightmare moon
Greed - Trixie (?) or Sombra
Magic - Starlight Glimmer or Tirek
Lust - Changelings (?)
Pride -Gilda (?)
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Madness: Discord
Envy: Changelings. They want what Equestria has, mainly not-starving. Also Envy from Full Metal Alchemist was a shapeshifter.
Lust: Sombra's lust for power
Magic: Twilicorn
Greed: Spikezilla
Pride: gonna guess Rahs for this one since the other two siblings slot in
She is a member of the Pie family who treats rocks as snacks
Oh ho ho
There are hunting permits for that
... You're impossible to trust
Now don't get wrong i know they're not malicious or anything like that, but Celestia and Luna are trying to be something like family to the Sparkles while at the same time keeping secrets from them that that concerns the three of them, and then there is the manipulating of their lives and constantly having the Sparkles deal with the problems they themselves created
Had you two been acting like their rulers instead of trying to act like family to them it might have been okay, but your not, so it dosen't work.
In short: Had you been acting as rulers towards them you would be dancing on the knife's edge of being trustable or not. But since you're trying to be a part of their family, trusting you has become near impossible
Madness: Discord
Envy: Chrysalis
Lust: Sombra
Magic: Trixie (Alicorn Amulet) or Twilight (Assentation) or Sunset Shimmer (EQG)
Greed: Tirek
Pride: Starlight Glimmer
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Madness: Discord
Envy: Changelings.
Lust: Sombra
Magic: Trixie and the Alicorn Amulet
Greed: Tirek, he takes all magic for himself
Pride: Starlight Glimmer, she believes she is always right.
Unless Pride is referring to a villain from season 8 (I haven't finished it yet, but it could apply), or the movie, in which case Tirek is magic and Starlight is greed for stealing all the cutie marks.
Btw, new Starlight origin if you're interested: she was a student at Celestia's school who coveted being Celestia's personal student, and feels Twilight and her cutie mark stole what was rightfully hers.
Those permits are going to be used and exploited. Maliciously. And repeatedly. And I am going to enjoy every second of it.
Envy was cute at times, Lust was... she had a good rack of extra-crispy chicken, Magic...???, Greed is #besthomonculus, and Pride was scary...
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magic could be for sunset shimmer
Envy: Lots are saying changelings, but I think Trixie would be more likely. Not really sure just how true to canon chronological they will be.
Lust: I personally think Changelings, at least Chrysalis fit here more than Sombra.
Magic: Twilight's ascension? Though as this is a variant on his other works, the 'gods' work a bit different.
Greed: Could be Tirek, could be Sombra, could be Chrysalis really...
Pride: Definitely sounds like Starlight, but it could just as easily be the Storm King or some other 'god' yet to be named.
I think the idea that this is going to closely follow canon is a trap.
Aww...now your just teasing us by not showing the letter. You had it explode and everything so it must have been a good one. Also I'm pretty sure they aren't going to be happy about being the center of a prophecy. I know I wouldn't be happy about that.
Season 1 is dogs.
Season 2 is cats.
Is season 3 bird?
The ponk is stronk
Edit: removed an 'a' for rhyming purposes.
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You are all sooooooooooooo close.
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it did indeed come up the first time in season one. But Celestia thought she could ignore it and it would go away. Then Discord.
Prophecies are of two types. Gonna happen no matter what. And Self Fulfilling.
With the latter type the more you try to fix it or make it not happen the more likely it is to happen. So Celestia opted to ignore it and hope it was the latter type.
It was not.
I tend to have a lot of things i brought up a long time ago pop up again.
Prince Spike, The Velkorn Prophecy, what the Buffalo called Witch Wolves and Luna. Hints that Bleu and the sisters were at war at one point and Bleu isn't fond of them and that all the gods of Equss are watching Luna like hawks waiting for a relapse.
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Was trying to think of Moon Puns for that one. Maybe dragon ones
I'll figure it out when i get there
Maybe don't have the explanation be on luna's first halloween equivalent. I can't remember if it's in season two or not. It's been ages since I actually watched the cartoon.
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The key for the clue to magic is "Fiery, Purple, and Blue." Those 3 words describe Starlight's Cutie Mark.
Madness = Discord (self explanatory).
Envy = Stygian a.k.a. The Pony of Shadows (he had a sad/resentful covetousness towards the traits of the Pillars of Equestria).
Lust = Chrysalis/Thorax (Changelings literally feed on love).
Magic = Starlight and/or Cozy Glow (Do either of these two really need to be explained? Furthermore, after the season 8 finale, Cozy Glow fits the bill a little better since her views on the magic of Friendship is a complete and total perversion of what it actually is).
Greed = Spike/Tirek (Spike = Greed Growth. Tirek wanted all of the magic in Equestria for himself.)
Pride = Sunset Shimmer (EQG 1 she was dangerously selfish, put her own desires/urges/wants/whims before the welfare of others, and considered herself above her fellow equines and either on par or above Equestrian Divinity a.k.a. Princess Celestia).
Out of the MLP Villains, King Sombra is an outlier. In the show, he literally has no character and is portrayed as a terrifying force of nature more than anything else. In the comics, his fall from grace is fueled by an intense desire for revenge against those who had left him to suffer for years and would have let him die by withholding the very truth of what he is from him. He doesn't really fit any of the elements presented on this list.
Now… what is interesting about this list is that at most 6/6 of them (depending on who Magic, Greed, and Lust end up being) all end up being redeemed in canon. And all of them before the Storm King invades Canterlot. Very interesting indeed.
So Pinkie managed to spread the blacklist network to Canterlot? That is some serious stuff there. Also she actually did blacklist the Princesess? Dang that is pretty intense. Hopefully the castle bakers are on wage rather than commission given the probable cake bill of Celestia.
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I think greed fits Sombra because all he want is crystals
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Stygian wasn't envious. Starswirl only thought he was. This was probably Nightmare Moon, they just haven't realized it.
Why would you include Thorax for Lust? He was the opposite of lustful. Chrysalis, though, is a shoe in.
Magic would probably be Tirek, as that's what he was stealing.
Greed would be Sombra, as he saw the crystal ponies as his property.
Pride would probably be Starlight, as it was her wounded pride that led her to try to ruin Twilight's life.
Cozy Glow is way too new and we don't know if EQG is canon in this, so Sunset might not even exist here.
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I don't know if I am right or not. But is it possible that one or some of the keywords has nothing to do with the canon? This is a fanfiction after all, and the author already introduced many variations to the story so far.
In my opinion, after reading this far, at least 'Lust' does not actually match anything in the canon since you cannot show anything that might remotely consider 'Lust' on the Kids Show.
So I think 'Lust' might point to Saturnia who is plotting to take Rahs as her breeding stallion. And as we know, anything involving Changelings' operation tend to be a big deal of event.
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You're not thinking this through enough. Remember, in Equestria friendship is literally magic. Twilight is not the princess of magic, she is the princess of friendship even though her cutie mark represents magic. This is one of the keys to unlocking who is which element.
The second key to unlock who is which element is Discord, the Element of Madness, himself. Why because Discord was redeemed. And that narrows our list of possible suspects to a very short list.
This is factually incorrect. The Pillars of Equestria thought Stygian was jealous of their abilities. Not envious. There is a big difference between the two.
Even then they were using the word jealous wrong.
Envy is a very selfish emotion. It occurs when a person lacks another's superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it. Envy is a feeling which is derived from someone else having something which you consider to be superior to what you have. One is envious of others.
Jealousy is, believe it or not, a very fearful emotion. Its driving force is to protect what one has. This most commonly shows up with lovers and one becoming over protective/controlling of the other because the other is spending time with someone who isn't them.
The two emotions are often interlinked with one leading directly into the other. Which in turn causes them to be used interchangeable in everyday speech.
However a prime example of ency leading directly to jealousy can be found in part two of Shadow Play. Where Stygian outright states his motives.
Envy was his driving force to steal the artifacts of the pillars and try to make copies of them. He was trying to gain what they had which he did not. When he gained his own dark powers, he became stronger than any of them. However he was terrified of the pillars taking his power away, and jealously guarded it.
Stygian is the poster child for Envy and he was redeemed. Really can't get better than that.
As for why it can't be Princess Luna/Nightmare Moon… the prophecy happened after she came back. It's pointless and impossible to prophesy the past.
Every single solitary changeling, including Thorax, were beings who were enslaved to Lust. What makes Thorax stand out is that he is the first one to overcome it. Which is why he became the king of the redeemed changelings. It is that redemption which makes him more interesting than Chrysalis for the element.
You're forgetting that Friendship is Magic. This not figurative. This is literal. Friendship is the strongest, most potent force in Equestria. Used correctly, it is harmless. Used incorrectly, the damage is catastrophic and almost irreversible.
The two people who pervert what friendship is the most are Starlight Glimmer and Cozy Glow.
Starlight sees friendship as something which can only exist between two people who are exactly the same. In personality and in ability. Starlight enforced this worldview of hers by first and foremost removing everyone's cutie marks. This removes what makes everyone unique from one another. This in turn removes part of what makes friendships magical. Life is boring if you are only friends with people who are just like you.
She further enforces these ideas of hers through literal brain washing and torture. Her entire village is built on the idea of everyone being exactly the same, everyone being happy about this, having no choice in this, or else face the consequences. Friends aren't friends because they are forced to be. Friends are friends because they choose to be. This is something which Starlight did not understand.
Furthermore, Starlight's Cutie Mark, like Twilight's, represents her special talent with magic. You literally cannot get more on the nose with the second element of magic being Starlight. What's interesting about Starlight being the second element of magic is that she too was redeemed.
Now for Cozy Glow, she may be new to the franchise, however she also deeply misunderstands what friendship is. To Cozy, friendship is power but not in the literal sense. We'll get to literal power in a minute.
The type of power that Cozy sees in Friendship is political or influential power. The more friends she has, the more people she can influence, the more she can make her desires come true, the less people will be able to object to her desires because they are outnumbered in their opinions against her, therefore the more power she has.
To her, friendship is nothing more than a means to manipulate people. There is no magic to it. Which is why she tried to remove all of it from Equestria. Without magic, true friendships don't exist. People are only together for political convenience.
This is another perversion of Friendship. No one is better at manipulating people than Cozy Glow.
While Sombra seeing the Crystal Ponies as his property is correct, that does not make him the embodiment of greed. Mind you he is still an evil force of nature (he's not a character because, again, he was presented as a force of nature in the show and stereotypical despot with what limited backstory we got on him.
To understand why the embodiment of greed is either Spike or Tirek, we must actually look at what the word means. Greed, or avarice, is an inordinate or insatiable longing for material gain, be it food, money, status, or power.
To Tirek, magic is nothing more than power. Literally. Every single time we saw him steal someone else's magic, his power skyrocketed. But the key point where he is greed is because he wanted all of that power for himself. No one else could have it. Not his brother. Not Discord. No one. It is his, and his alone.
That is greed and it is Tirek's main driving force.
As for why Spike could also be Greed, please watch the episode "Secret of My Excess," which perfectly illustrates how greed is an inherent part of what makes a dragon a dragon. The interesting part is that he overcame his greed and redeemed himself, which is something that Tirek either could not or would not do.
Incorrect. Starlight tried to destroy Twilight's life because the Princess of Friendship and her friends figuratively destroyed Our Town. Our Town was the literal representation of Starlight's views on Friendship. The key tenant of which, which I pointed out above, is that you can only be friends with someone who is exactly like you. In "destroying" Our Town, Twilight proved that Starlight's ideas on friendship are fundamentally wrong. Because of Starlight's history with Sunburst, Twilight's actions in proving what true friendship is open up very old scars. These old scars were turned into deeper wounds when Starlight lost all of her "friends" in Our Town.
In short: Twilight hurt Starlight by doing the right thing.
Starlight isn't motivated by pride when she tried to ruin Twilight's life. She is motivated by revenge. Twilight took away Starlight's friends. In return, Starlight is going to take away Twilight's friends.
Starlight states this point blank in the season 5 finale.
Pride isn't driving Starlight. Revenge is. That is the significant reason as to why she can't be pride.
I'll address this now since I already addressed Cozy Glow above. First of all, EQG is 100% MLP: FiM compliant. Whether it is going to be in this scenario or not is completely up to TDR and what his thoughts are regarding that branch of the franchise.
What makes pride difficult to categorize is that the word has two equal and valid meanings.
The first one is a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired. This is all positive. Being prideful of ones accomplishments is fuel for a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance (a.k.a. ego).
The second definition is where Pride falls onto the list. This definition of Pride is a dangerously corrupt selfishness, the putting of one's own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of people. It is also known as hubris/arrogance, and is where the phrase "the pride commeth before the fall" is derived from.
Pride in this context means you are taking the deep pleasure or satisfaction from your own achievements and cranking it up to 11. You're not just satisfied with your achievements, you feel like you deserve something. Like you've taken steps A. B, and C to learn how to fly an airplane and feel like you're more than ready to fly it without going through steps D – Z. It could also be because you've completed steps A. B, and C to learn how to fly an airplane faster than anyone else in the class, you feel as though you are better than them and they are beneath you.
Or worse yet, that you know more about this subject than the teacher.
Celestia states that Sunset cruel and dishonest because she did not get what she wanted as quickly as she liked. Celestia knew Sunset was brilliant. Sunset knew she was brilliant too. Sunset also thought she deserved to have something before Celestia thought she was ready for it.
Celestia also speculates that Sunset did not think very highly of Twilight when trying to reason out her motives for placing a fake crown in place of the real element of harmony. This hinted towards Sunset thinking of herself as above everyone else.
This thought process of Sunset's was confirmed in this little exchange between Sunset, Fluttershy, and Princess Twilight.
Sunset considers herself the ruler of Canterlot High School. This is her pride on full display. Her pride is her main driving force. Her reason to be. There are plenty of other examples within the film which further illustrate this point. But in the end, she too was redeemed.
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Oh wow this got...... Just a hint people ive never seen the equestrian girls stuff the movie or past season 5 so im not even sure what half this discussion is.
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Eh, what can I say. I like to think things through when speculating and there are characters (specifically villains (both reformed and otherwise)) who fit your missing vices to a T. :)
There is good stuff in seasons 6, 7, & 8 of the show which you might find fun to play with. Same with Equestria Girls… to a lesser extent (and all of it after the first movie).
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Well I just means you missed all the good stuff
Wow. I never thought Cadance would turn physical abusive towards Shining. Looks like she needs counsoling.
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She only hit him once.... the other mares.... a few more than that.
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Err Body Cast? Looks like more than a few hits from the others.
Something tells me that Angel Bunny is going to have FAR too much fun with his permit to maim those reporters!
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Nonsense.
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Fluttershy will after her little brother comes Gold digging.
Gotta say after catching back up again....between the first story and this one, your version of Pinkie is particularly unlikable. I mean, I'm not a fan of Pinkie at the best of time, but here she's getting to be a little tyrant.
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She was a bit nuts in the series but i've also been expanding on something i noticed in the first season. More on that later.
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Wouldn’t that make Starlight a shoe-in for pride? Every time she complained about Twilight’s interference it was always how she ruined ‘her’ work. “They think they can come into ‘MY’ village and disrupt ‘MY’ life?” “’MY’ village was a sanctuary of equality where nopony’s cutie mark could make them feel superior.” Also consider the implication of that last line; ‘cutie marks making one feel superior’. At the height of Starligh’s false equality was the fact that she wouldn’t join her peers in the ruse she’d crafted because of a need to be in control. Said need is Starlight’s central character flaw, her loss of control always bringing out the worst in her post-reformation. Before her reformation it was something that always manifested itself in ways that match up perfectly with this definition of pride that you’ve pointed out.
Heh. Yeah, Celestia has always been wrong for manipulating them, but she also had a reason. Not a great one, but a reason no less. The best way Celestia could've dealt with Twilight's temper is throw everything Celestia worries about in her face. Basically what she did this chapter. Good on her.
And a good finish to things, very oringal and playing well from what had been set up, and the humor was freaking amazing. Just, yeah really great take on this. Was half expecting Discord to end up just telling them to stone him already to get Rahs to stop beating him up. Speaking of, though not made explicit why, it actually does make sense that Rahs would so easily be able to eat Discord's magic, while having trouble with Tia. He was literally made to do so. Luna made the Moon Dogs to help fix the dream realm following Discord's magic messing it up, so of course they'd be able to deal with that magic.
Really, the only things I didn't really enjoy were (aside from continued points from the last one) were, again, some character motivation stuff. Mostly the end. I am still totally lost on what Celestia did the least bit wrong here to justify everypony treating it like Twilight is fully justified in being a prissy little twat about everything. The ceremony I get, but that just raises more questions on why the buck she did it that way, rather then tell them what was going on before-hoof so they knew going in. I get being pissed at that, but not doing that is just, so pointlessly stupid. Why did they all go through with it without asking why first? The main plot though? That she had to even resort to anything above "Threat to all of existence as you know it is lose, you six are the only ones able to stop it, please do so." says way more about these Mane 6 then anything else.
Regenerating cake monsters that have to be eaten....... See this I can 100% see as something Discord would do to try to get back into Tia's good graces, and that might actually work if not for all the other stuff he pulls.
Ahem, that ending of the prologue, I can only say this. "Chicken BOOOOOOOOOO!"
I really doubt Rarity is the oldest one of the Mane six, if anything I'd put her more towards the middle. We have few age markers, but most fit that. For one, the only concrete one we know is that Fluttershy is a year older then Pinkie, and when they all got their marks, Fluttershy looked older then the rest of them, though admittedly that could have just been her hitting a growth spurt sooner. But, we also know that AJ was the last in her class to get her Cutie Mark, implying she was on the far end of the "Cutie Mark Age of Getting" Bell Curve. (With RD getting it first, and being on the other end). So while you can work around that to explain it, AJ got back after Rarity got her mark, Rarity was in a different class, etc... Does seem to be implying that AJ is older then Rarity. I'd put AJ and Fluttershy as the oldest, then Rarity and Twilight, then RD and Pinkie.
And Discord stuck running with the Mane 6 and just bickering with them... seriously, I do freaking love the way this turned around and played out. Totally saw that "We don't have to outrun Rahs, just you." moment coming and it was glorious.
Yeah AJ, Discord is actually pretty honest-ish. Little outright lying, more, telling things in just the right way to mislead you without outright lying. Really, why should he lie? When playing games is so much more fun.
So, new Ponyville, fog and siren. Silent Hill?
I do like keeping things just, so peaceful and, well Pony. The biggest criminal case being a very mild slap fight over a stallion.
Yak Ambassador's.... 1. I freaking Love how Luna is interpreting things. 2. Eh can just chalk it up to changes due to this 'verse's cosmology and all that, since in show nopony had had contact in a loooong time. at least that they knew of. Still, I so want to see this Luna dealing with Rutherford. They shall either become the best of friends, or she'll kill him.
Sea Ponies, you added Sea Ponies..... YOU MONSTER!
Ad worse.... sea pony Oompah Loompahs! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
And you made Dr. Choppy even more amazing!
To be fair Luna, it's likely everypony already has at least one or two of the Celestia wigs sitting around their house at this point. The axe is new. Also, I want one! Gimme Dr. Choppy figure!
No... NO!, No story, just no. I will not buy this utter travesty of reason and rightness. I know you take some liberties with canon, but some things are just beyond the pale. I know Equestria is not a full on paradise, but there is no way I can POSSIBLY accept it is so far from it, that it does not contain Wolpertingers!
Sea Pony Lyra...... Why is this so popular?
Hmmm, not sure of just being a dummy really fits as the opposite of Spike, he's quick witted sure, but I would really call that his core defining trait. Though, I honestly can't think of anything else either that would fit.
...... Spikette.... Spikeette...... Discord you insane, horrible genius you.
Yeah, there can be so many things wrong with just how much Scoots knows about RD.
"We lift the Moon every night and thine weight is giving us a hernia!"
Eh, sorry Discord, but nothing you make can be as chaotic as the real CMC.
Glad to see that if I don't get smarmy, dickish Blueblood, and least Zephyr remains a living avatar of douchyness.
And glad at least one of them noticed they weren't really the CMC.
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"This would be immensely boring if it wasn't so painful"
Ohhh very nice wording.
Pickle Barrel level deity...... is it sad I can tell if that's just Discord being Discord or not?
See, even insane engine of destruction Rahs is till nice and helpful to his itchy chewtoy.
Snarf helmet.... Snarf........Okat, the chaos is going too far!
Mecha Lyra...... I take that back, keep the epic insanity coming!
So, that means Angel waits to make sure they really deserve it before beating the foal up?
Knoked into next Tuesday........ Seriously, this Angel is just so damn awesome!
Two options, either Discord realized nothing is more chaotic then Angel, or unlike with Rahs, Discord knew better then to mess with him.
Of course being near books would get some reaction.
"Now, observe as our animal caretaker tries to set up a safe nest for the sick Equestrian Book Horse."
....... Go Dr. Choppy, put that degree to work!
The whole tunnel sequence is too insane not to love.
Do like the Tai-Blob was just Discord's work. And, well... I can't really blame Tia here, there really isn't anything she can do at this point. Not like this Twilight thought to send her things that could be sent back to serve as reminders of who she really is.
Loose canine...... Story,you should feel bad about that pun! And I should feel bad about enjoying it so much.
.... And now Gameloft game, Discord really is turning the town into hell!
Well, do prefer the canon way she snapped out of it, much more emotional, but the rubber snake works and is freaking hilarious.
Well... Rahs puking up chaos god limbs........
Ohhhh, and I really love how things worked out and the explanation. It needed not just Rahs' pesonlity being flipped, but also the super charge of chaos magic to make him a witch wolf, and Twilight was able to vent that magic..... damn.. I do love the stuff about how the siblings interact like this.
Poor, poor Shining Armor.....
Well, you can't argue with that point. Discord's voice is certainly godly.
FOR PONY!
ALL! MY! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shy has got a mean streak buried under all that repression.
"I prepared exploding runes this morning."
And the nont-CMC.... that was glorious.
Hunting license,for Angel....... this can only go very, very, very well. For us watching it at any rate.
So, that gives a reason for Twilight and Spike, but then why didn't Shining Armor remember what was going on?
Also, why did it take till now for Cadance to realize what had happened with him, given they just talked about they had examined him already and found the traces of chaos magic lingering there?
Though, aside from two parts that didn't make sense, good wrap up for a really interesting take on things. And yeah, aside from still being totaly lost on why Tia is so in the wrong here while doing nothing wrong, great take on things that was just, so damn fun.
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Mostly because it was one of her ex's and she has a bit of a history giving the run around. The mane 6, specialy the Sparkles hate when she chess masters it and thus far it all seems to be going towards that. Also Discord probably wouldn't have been an issue for a while as his ire was on Tia and he only went after the mane 6 due to Tia bringing them.
I know you probably ship button and sweetie, but why?
Pot calling the kettle black
So did Twilight kick Celestias ass so it woobeld for days?
Damn... Pinkie is someone not to mess with... Celestia is a god but Miss Pie is Pinker than Pink...
Sombra is pride I don’t know who is what yet but I will figure it out.
So isn’t there a counterpart to the Rainbow of Light/Elements of Harmony?
DT deserved it and more...
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Ye but that was in uh...G1 I think??? this is G4 and anyway Tirek was the one who had that and he sure as shit didn't have that in cannon...or the fic if I remember right.
Back when I read it the first time:
"Nice"
Re-reading it currently:
"You have no idea!"