The End, The Beginning, The End, The Beginning, The End, The Beginning
I awake again, I'm not in my bed, and it isn't time to raise the sun. But I didn't expect it to be. Not anymore. I've long since stopped hoping that this time would be the end of it. Even to return to Elysium and sit again among the Cosmic Council is a hope that has long since died in me.
I am Princess Celestia of Equestria, and I am about to be executed. Again. You know the old joke among criminals? 'Wouldn't want to be executed twice!' If that joke was ever funny before, it isn't funny now.
I have been executed twice, thrice, so many times that I have at last lost count.
I awaken already condemned. And I am executed. And I awaken again and the cycle continues.
Why don't I escape? Why don't I learn how my captor think and play them like puppets to enable my escape within seconds of my awakening? Why do I not simply train my magic in the infinitely at my disposal and obliterate my prison and flee?
This is not some foals' game where you memorize the patterns of the mindless game characters and you have infinite chances to win. Every time is different: who is there, their temperaments, where I am, when it is, how I am being held, my physical state... how my life is ended.
Everything is different, and yet everything is the same.
Sometimes I was apparently always evil incarnate behind a pretty face. Other times I was a mad pony driven insane by the weight of centuries. Other times I was a paranoid creature who thought those who were different would ultimately corrupt or destroy my ponies. Other times it was seemingly part of some twisted scheme to increase Equestria's numbers and then conquer Equus. Other times I was apparently deluded and thought I was doing a great service to those I was wronging. In a few of the bit more 'forgiving' ones I was apparently under the corruption of Tirek's power. And there was that one where I woke up in Queen Chrysalis' body and saw myself with my sister condemning me to death for replacing 'Celestia' and engaging in this scheme.
Sometimes it is a trial. Sometimes it is simply an angry mob of ponies, griffins, humans, or other creatures eager to claim my head for the unspeakable evils I'd apparently done.
'Tis a jest truly' as Lulu would say. I remember all those times Luna insisted that I didn't meddle enough with my ponies, that I was too willing to let them trip then pick themselves up. I'd retort to my sister that our ponies had to learn to take care of themselves or they never would. Now I was executed, over, and over, and over again, for violating the lives and destiny of countless innocent creatures. 'The genocidal, tyrant rapist' is a common combination of words thrown at me between my awakening and my death.
It is madness. But it happens anyway. Then it happens again, and again, and again.
Oh. And I apparently never raised the sun, apparently that was all a lie. Wish somepony had bothered to tell me so, coaxing that giant ball of flames, (that which was much a part of me as I was a part of it), up and down from the horizon was a lot harder than it looks. On some rare occasion, Luna has apparently taken over my duties as I had done for her for a 1000 years when madness took her.
Oh right, what am I being executed for? That least is somewhat consistent. And in a way, that is what sickens me the most. Well, it did sicken me, now there is only a numbness as I hear it thrown at me, sometimes with frothing rage, other times with professional indifference, sometimes with a mix of revulsion and pity, and countless other variances.
Apparently Equus' reality had crashed with Earth, well, a DIFFERENT Earth from the one my students Twilight Sparkle and Sunset Shimmer had gone to. Nor the one the legendary hero visit our world with the aid of the rainbow bridge. The end result was Equestria being forcibly transplanted to their world.
Except it wasn't a clash, apparently it had been part of my Evil Plan from the beginning to leave an entire world where I'd spent centuries building alliances, forming friendships, and where the entire world needed my sister and I to keep the cycle of life moving with the raising and lowering of the sun and moon. Sentencing Equus to a slow death with us gone, and the chaos and destruction that would result from Equestria vanishing and an ocean taking its place.
And then the was where our patch of reality met the native universe we'd found ourselves in. Except it wasn't where the two patches of existence met after all. Apparently it was a magic forcefield more powerful than anything Shining Armor or myself had ever been able to create, and one we apparently had the power to expand (opposed to the invasive reality we'd ridded on bleeding into their universe).
And apparently ponies could enter and exit this force field without trouble (no mention was made of the other hooved beings who existed in Equestria), but humans would be killed by it (rather than to us in the native universe beyond, which made no sense anyway with the legendary hero and Firefly The First visiting each other's worlds), along with any of their achievements being erased as well.
Sombra? Chrysalis? Discord? Tirek? They... seemed to almost never exist. No mention of them taking advantage of the chaos resulting from such things, playing two sides against each other as is their nature, no striking when two sides had exhausted each other... they just... seemed to have been removed. They sometimes appeared... but... aside from the time I mentioned with Chrysalis, they seemed there almost as an afterthought.
Oh yes... I haven't gotten to the meat of things. The heart of my Evil Plan. Apparently I had the unspeakable, unforgivable, unholy, nightmarishly wicked, truly despicable scheme of delivering the most horrible, horrible fate upon innocent humans... turning them into ponies.
I sincerely can't decide what is more racist, that being a pony is such a 'deplorable fate' that death is seen as better, or thinking that I and/or my ponies are such delusional zealots that we think anything alive must be the same as us.
Oh... and in spite of no species transformation spell in the history of magic actually doing such a thing, the humans transformed by this magic suffered at best their original personality being killed and replaced with a pony who thought they were them with their memories, or at worst a soulless, spineless, devoid-of-identity parody of a pony that 'was better off dead.'
I have had nightmares on how much destruction I could bring down on the world if I stopped restraining my power. But this... this felt like some vicious parody of those fears.
Oh, and it gets better. Sometimes, there are aliens who trapped little girls in a cycle of hope and despair to starve off the heat-death of the universe who condemn me as the ultimate evil, giant evil robot space squids who melt down populations into metal goo condemning me as the ultimate evil, and then the genocidal octopi in salt-shaker tanks who condemn me as the ultimate evil, and then the human's version of Tirek shows up and condemns me as the WORSE ultimate evil, and then a genocidal murder happy lunatic who condemns me as the ultimate evil... the list goes on. If I was watching this affair from the outside, I think I'd be laughing my head off the insane level of egocentric hypocrisy. It's a different story when you're living it.
So the humans did what any civilization does when faced the obliteration of their culture, and face being turned into mindless zombie slaves, they forget how much they hate each other and instead hate the new enemy they can all focus on. And... of course, Equestria constantly loses, badly.
Royal Guard march forward to be mowed down by machine gun fire like sheep. Unicorns seemed to forget how their telekinesis work as they are slaughtered. Pegasi are ... if it was a comedy... I'd ALMOST be laughing at the easy that they're blown to pieces, gunned down into mince meat. Seeing competent, highly trained flyers be obliterated and showing no ability to learn that 'pointy stick goes boom and kills you.' The complete and total LACK OF INTELLIGENCE on the part of everypony I learned of in the brief time between my awaken and my execution was astounding.
I think of my wicked self on the other side of the mirror, thinking how she and her sister would have reduced the planet to a wasteland before letting the barrier sweep over the corpses if their goal was truly not to rule, but simply to obliterated everything.
I am fully aware of the population difference, but tell me, how many ponies, and all the other creatures, do you think live in Equestria? How big, do you think Equestria actually is? I didn't think you knew the answer.
I am also fully aware of the centuries these civilization have had of warfare... how many times, do you think ponies have been seen as easy prey for enslavement or extermination, we've had to face? And how many eons of experience, do you think I and my sister have?
I am also VERY aware of the differences in firepower... of the tools of war they developed without magic. And that suits of armor and a spear are worthless again such weapons ... And I can't remember the last time I used my solar flare spell, and I never want to. There's a reason ponies fight with pies these days.
I know it would be a brutal and long and horrific war... one you think a broker for peace would be possible when neither side had the option of simply obliterating the other... or if it might come down to that, and both sides destroyed each other at the same time.. ugh. I do not like to think about it.
The point is, my ponies apparently showed no ability to learn, no ability to evolve, no ability to develop new tactics, no ability to abandon old ones, no ability to develop new magics or new equipment, the list goes on. While the humans learn, adapt, and basically show all the traits ponies themselves had to have in order to not become griffin food.
Oh, and apparently that was completely and totally my fault as well, keeping my ponies frozen in the middle ages with no progress what so ever. I didn't think the middle ages had movie theaters or radio.
Of course... I THINK that's the case.. perhaps I AM getting too full of myself. I don't remember any of it. I don't magically get memories of how things went this time when I awake. I have to piece it together in the time I have. And wars are infinitely complex affairs, and each one in each cycle is different somehow in what way humans utterly crush us.
Sometimes my ponies win, followed by an overwhelming force of nowhere appearing and bringing down swift brutal justice upon us.
Whatever the result, engaging in an insane war no sane pony would have ever started, Equestria is of course defeated without any real resistance or my ponies being so laughably easily conquered, you'd be left wonder how the world they'd actually not been conquered centuries ago.
Sorry. It's one of the few things left that can still raise my temper... showing my ponies as weaklings, as idiots, not as a people who had pushed back genocidal conquerer after genocidal conquerer, but as blind fools who were so insanely lucky that the universe itself would implode from the unlikelihood.
Not that any of it even remotely matters. Not in the least. This is just the backdrop. Things that had already happened before I awake. Things that had happened because they must have happened for things to have come to this to begin with. Things I can't change, or even argue against, because they've already happened, and are set in stone.
... At first I thought this was just a normal nightmare, and that sooner or later, Luna would come and save me. I lie, at first I thought this was all just some grand practical joke by my sister. I remember laughing out loud when I heard the charges the first time, I remember wiping a tear from my eye as saying what a huge joke it was. No one else laughed.
And no... no 'plead of insanity' has ever worked... Because if that happened, I wouldn't be executed as the monster I apparently am.
Truth be told, I do have some precedence, like the nightmare where Equestria thought I was madly in love with tea instead of cake, and I couldn't stand the taste. And when I said as much, my sister, and Twilight, her friends, and her brother, all thought I was Chrysalis in disguise and attacked me all at once, then thought I had been corrupted by Discord and made relive every moment I'd tasted tea all at once to 'cure' me.
Lulu had given me a dream of visiting Puppy Land as therapy after that one.
Even if this was to end (and it never will), I doubt I could ever function as the Princess all of Equestria knew and loved ever again.
Then, I spent several times thinking this was some sick of game of Discord's taken way too far in his demented definition of 'helping' me somehow.
After that, I thought I was trapped in one of Chrysalis' cocoons, having the love drained out of me as I experienced this nightmare over and over.
Or this is Sombra somehow back from the dead, and inflicting all my worst fears bundle into one.
I've long since realized that it could be none of them. Because none of them could bear NOT to have gloated to my face right now and not let me know it was them who had condemned me to this eternal suffering. None of their massive egos could have allowed them to have doomed me so and not rubbed it in my face.
I sincerely wonder what other sadistic creature this thirsty to quince their hatred could have spawned such torment as this. Though to call it torment doesn't even fit anymore. I've given up trying to reason with those around me, let alone fight or try to escape. I'm just another cog in the machine of this endless cycle. For me to be condemned as the most vile creature in the history of creation, and then my life to be snuffed out in any number of ways.
I have no friends here. My sister despises me. She is like a horrid stranger to me. It reminds me too much of Nightmare Moon. I suppose I can't blame her, I might feel exactly the same way to her if these sins were on her back... though I hope I'd help her try to find salvation before the end. My student Twilight, for she is always my student, she is never a Princess... it is like everything that happened since she became a Princess never happened. Let alone Discord being freed and reformed by Fluttershy. And let alone King Sombra, and the Crystal Empire's whose barrier had held back the chaotic might of Discord himself. And as I said, only for that one time, it is like the changelings never existed.
There is no sign of Flurry Heart, not that I am surprised given all else. Let alone any sign of the mirror that led to the other human world. Or even as sign of Sunset Shimmer, mostly, the few times she has been mentioned at all, it was only in a dismissive way referring to her death long ago. My little sun, I am so sorry.
Twilight, she either is 'still' blindly devoted to 'my cause' that is a a parody of the desire she's always had to please me and see me happy, or she has 'woke up to my true nature' and hates me with the same black fire as my sister, or is chillingly indifferent. The other Elements of Harmony are much the same. Some had joined 'the resistance' of ponies who had apparently risen up against my tyranny, or had been left a broken mess against humanity's supreme unquestionable might, such as the one where Shining Armor had lost his legs.
Sometimes I am beheaded, sometimes I am thrown into a black hole. Sometimes I am simply shot with a revolver to the head (I like to think I am made of sterner stuff than that, but I don't have a say in the matter). Blood letting. Impalement. Poison gas. Electrocution. Lethal injection. Drawn and quartered. Hanging. Dismembered. Disemboweled. The list goes on.
I don't even respond when they speak anymore. I don't even bother to identify who is there, who is not there, who is looking at me in hatred, who is looking at me in pity, others in revulsion, because it doesn't matter. I die. I awake. I die. I awake. An endless cycle. Quite the joke on the cycle of day and night my sister and I once shared.
Hmmmm. This time, I am drained of all magic, reduced to a withered old nag as the centuries suddenly catch up with me. And I am pushed over a cliff, my wings somehow useless. I fall, hitting jagged rocks, and crash into the bottom of the ravine, my brittle bones shattering to pieces, and I slowly bleed out.
I awaken back in my cell, this time my horn and wings start out cut off, my face muzzled, and heavy weight chains on my withered and weak legs. My hateful sister comes again.
"It is time," she said with a voice like ice like she always does, or it's a guard, or my student, or a human I don't know, or it is spoken over a speaker or no message is given at all and they simply come and dragged me away like a show pony to be spat upon and have rotten fruit thrown at.
And I am executed. And I awake. And I am executed. And I awake. And I am executed. And I awake. And I am executed.
And so it goes on.
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Tut, tut, Princess, you forgot to mention the scenarios where Discord was the one trying to save everyone... despite literally all evidence saying otherwise.
I never knew this was her true nature... the first thousand times the loop repeated. But by the 1,001st time, I was convinced of it!!!
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Another badly written piece on the pile ofI hate being thrown back and forth between the two extremes?
"I never knew this was her true nature... the first thousand times the loop repeated. But by the 1,001st time, I was convinced of it!!!"
I just keep seeing OOC Celestia be killed over and over and over in different works. And I thought, how to express what I FEEL reading those? To note, this is IC Celestia experiencing all this. Celestia isn't the type to deal with 'potential' threats, if anything, she's TOO SOFT in her preventive measures!
I don't read or even like TCB fics generally, but I've never heard of this one. Which is it, and is that one any good at all?
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Oh no, no, I understood all that. Also why the spoiler tag stuff was there.
To be perfectly honest, yeah, the trope's aged like a glass of milk left out in the middle of the summer for a month. Tyrantlestia this, Molestia that, combining the two... Sick of it. I get this is supposed to be IC Celestia mind-swapped into the OOC-verses to experience her execution as nightmares (essentially), but I wind up seeing her internal monologue as, to be frank, taking the piss out of every single one of those fics.
I just couldn't resist the opportunity to be a sarcastic idiot for a few seconds in my comment. Why else would the Death Eater Celestia be so prevalent--it's a meme that got where it is now through mindless repetition and regurgitation.
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The ponies were their normal fanon level of incompetence when it came to armed conflict.
An unapologetic little smack down to some of the more, extreme fanon portrayals Celestia got saddled with unfortunately.
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Thank you.
Geez, you're almost as bad as DC's live action movie department. When's the last time you wrote something intentionally funny? I mean I get it, your tastes, your account, you do whatever you want, but geez, lighten up.
Well then. Seems like a version of Nightmare Eclipse hopped on the Tyrantlestia bandwagon. Seriously, screw TCB. It's designed, almost on purpose, to prevent any other ending but this. Hopefully Amicitia will get to this one someday soon, or earlier or....grammar for those outside of time is weird
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Oh I agree. Totally and utterly. And it's actually in-character-Celestia being subjected to all this. Thank you for the comment!
Hopefully this isn't a reflection of anything going on irl with you. If so, you're in my prayers(aside from the usual thanking God that I found your works).
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Interesting. This helps me dispel feelings that I don't feel better for feeling. Thank you, have a like
7105959 Dude i get you want a comedy, but he not going to be a comedy mood 24/7 especially for a story meant to be taken seriously.
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Yes, I get that, I just can't remember the last time he wrote something happy.
Alex for my health please give me a warning before adding fics like these to Protect Celestia. I would rather not have a panic attack when I wake up in the morning.
Ok I'm all for poking fun at all the tropes and memes you referenced, but yesh... some could say you hate Celestia but constantly torturing her in a manner far worse than physical pain.
7105733 As Alex said, standard incompetence. Which is SAD given the concept of it being Chrysalis who instigated the CB conflict to her own ends has TONS of potential as a story, but was wasted on yet another tired Take That at the CB premise.
Honestly? I think the problem with TCB was the writer's poor execution, and the premise itself has potential if handled by a good writer who can make it clear it's considered a tragedy by both sides and turning humanity into ponies really IS a last resort neither the Equestrians nor humanity wanted, but have run out of every other option.
But no, instead everyone else just writes the same, tired deconstruction fics instead of an actual, well written Fix Fic to address and fix the problems with the original stories.
Ok look, I get the sentiment, I hate seeing Celestia pointlessly bashed, I hate seeing humans being portrayed as unstoppable badasses, I hate Equestria being portrayed as weaker than it could possibly be and I hate the Conversion Bureau. Believe me I understand how frustrating it is to see these stupid clichés thrown out over and over again and I understand how frustrating it is that no one else seems to realise how stupid they are and in fact actually praise them. Believe me I get it. But this isn't a story it's a rant. There is little to nothing of Celestia's character and no real plot. It would have been more effective to show us ponies acting weak and stupid, people calling Celestia evil no matter what she does etc etc. The idea of the real Celestia having to live through all the different evil Celestia's bodies is an interesting idea and I'm not to upset that it's just a rant when the opposite side is so prevalent but I still think this isn't as good as it could be.
7105718 You can't say she's soft with her punishments though. Discord was apparently conscious while he was in stone, sent her sister to the moon for 1000 years, turned King Sombrero into a literal shadow, and in the comics, Chrysalis got those holes from Celestia.
Sealed Evil in a Can quadrupled.
I agree, ponies are not as weak as some people portray them as, some authors also go overboard as far as how powerful humans are and they are are a bit paranoid about how sinister most conversion bureau stories really are.
But that doesn't mean I think all conversion bureau stories are right though, one of the more popular authors of those type of stories has a very negative view of humanity as a whole, coloring the whole view of any story created in that universe, one bad apple ruins the bunch as they say.
That's not a discussion for here though, so I apologize.
Rarity Learns to Mind Her Own Business 2: Celestia Learns as well.
To be fair, a lot of those TCB fics were written before the S5 finale. Why is that so important? Because that episode gave us the Sombra Timeline. You know, the one where Equestria faced armed conflict from an enemy army (that was not a surprise attack) for the first time on the show. And what did we see? Equestria as an advanced industrial society shifting to war-time production. With factories and assembly lines cranking out the supplies needed to keep a massive war-effort going. Ponies creating new technology (like RD's awesome prosthetic battle-wing), ponies learning and adapting their own magic to give them an edge on the battlefield (Pinkie and Maud crushing those boulders.) Against possibly the greatest dark wizard who ever lived, who seems to be adding to his ranks with magical mind control of downed soldiers and possibly using the Crystal Heart to psy-ops attack the morale of Equestria. Clearly Equestria can learn, and Equestria can fight.
The only thing I would argue with is Celestia having a "solar-flare" spell. There were plenty of excuses for Celestia to have secret overwhelming power that she held back in her fight against Chrysalis, back in season 2. And maybe I buy that she was still in her palace so was holding back again against the chaos vines in season 4. And she couldn't beat Tirek, he was teamed up with Discord. But we saw 5 different timelines where Celestia got beaten by pretty much every villain, one of another. We even got to see Celestia lead an attack, and choose to fight in the center of the battlefield, wielding her shield and blasting with her horn. What did we not see? Any magic more powerful than that. Then let's not forget the S6 opener, where Celestia is trying to drive away incredibly thick cloud cover over the Crystal Empire, and fails. If she'd had overwhelming sun magic to blast those clouds as the city was being evacuated, that would have been the time to do it. But she didn't, and any reasonable analysis at this point is going to have to conclude its because she couldn't.
Let's face the facts, Celestia doesn't have any more powerful magic than we actually see her wield, shields and horn-blasts. A single absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but absence of Celestia wielding powerful magic when it could have saved the day on 9 separate occasions with widely differing circumstances? Yeah, that is pretty conclusive evidence of absence, as in Celestia's super solar flare/ability to obliterate a city with her magic just doesn't exist.
Equestria has been kept safe and free not by Celestia personally beating the crap out of any army that appears, but by the brave, adaptive and prepared EUP. (That and the natural borders of two oceans. And the ultimate deterrent to any rational being that if Celestia is taken out, the sun will stop moving. Those 3 reasons.)
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That is your opinion.
And to be frank? If Celestia had used more raw power against Chrysalis, she'd have killed the ponies inside.
I don't consider the nonsense with the deer's vines canon. The plumder vines were made by DISCORD.
And Celestia's refusal to kill is what holds her back. And why Luna is a better war time leader than her.
7108025 How many spells have we seen cast by Twilight, Trixie and Starlight that are both pretty dang powerful and have no collateral damage? Imagine an infant Chrysalis from an age spell, or a Chrysalis trapped in a crystal, etc. Apparently Celestia couldn't imagine that.
Deer vines aren't canon because comics aren't canon when they are contradicted by the series, and we've already seen in the show deer are not sapient. Sure, the Plunder vines were made by Discord, so that could make them more powerful than an alicorn. In some ways, you could argue they are the Chaos' counterpart to the Elements of Harmony or Rainbow Power. But Ponyville itself was able to hold of the plunder vines a lot longer than Celestia or Luna (who also couldn't drive back the clouds, let's not forget, but is still always able to beat her sister both times when she turns evil).
I agree, Celestia doesn't kill (I would argue that things like binding someone in shadow and throwing them in a frozen crevasse for a thousand years is actually a far crueler punishment than death, but that's a different argument). But that means you're saying she knows no magic other than basic horn blasts, a personal shield, and terrible lethal magic like some kind of solar blast. And really, there's no way to use a solar flare spell in any way that is not totally lethal, even with intense planning over a multi-year conflict with Sombra? No melting glaciers to cause floods and disrupt supply lines of the Crystal Empire? Sombra was flying wildly around the battlefield, why didn't Celestia ever go and confront him personally? I suspect it's because she realized he had a plausible chance at beating her in a one-on-one fight.
I actually thought we were going to see a solar blast in the S6 premiere. They had already evacuated the Crystal Empire's population to the train station at the very edge of town. The remaining ponies were in the heavily fortified palace, with the three best shield-makers in Equestria inside. Celestia flies up to the top of the frozen thick clouds and manages to briefly break through to the sunny skies above. If she'd had the solar flare, this would be the perfect time to use it, burning away the clouds while at the same time not burning all the way through to the ground below, it would be the perfect set of circumstances all lined up so Celestia could use her fanon-dreamed secret powerful magic without collateral damage and no one getting hurt. But she didn't, even as she and Luna were collapsing and unsure if the civilian population was going to be able to evacuate after all, Celestia didn't try and use her "solar blast," and neither did Luna even suggest it.
Honestly, I'm not even sure how powerful a solar flare would be from the Equestrian sun. It's the size of the moon, so it's ability to emit heat and radiation has to be proportionally scaled down from the real sun.
I agree about Luna being the better fighter and the "war-leader," though. At least in the comics, she goes out at night and fights manticores, but calls in her own guard for backup when she fights an owlbear. Personally, I think Celestia could take a manticore in a fight as well.
Alright,
Well written, even as an avid TCB reader, I enjoyed this fine work.
However,
I can't help but realise that this is a rant against TCB stories in the form of a story. Without taking into consideration the plain and simple fact that their headcanons are different from yours, you can contest this, but I really don't care too much.
As I said, very well written, better that anything I've tried to write, but still just a rant under the guise of a fimfiction story.
Have a nice day,
Lesser Grammar
Yeah, sometimes i think those people must be missing half of their brain to write such stupid fics.
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Not so much stupid, as simply thinking that nice and sweet Celestia being evil, misguided, etc, is a 'shocking' twist somehow, or see it as a necessary part of this fanon... which really now has nothing to do with humans becoming ponies, and everything to do with ponies getting their butts kicked by humans.
This story is weird, a bit blunt and I like it. Good work Alex Warlorn.
To ACB lovers out there: If people want to masturbate that humanity "fuck yeah" is awesome, great! I like humanity. Go us! Doing it in a crude way? No one is stopping you (fucking hypocrites circle jerk brigand other people's work can fuck off and grow up) and no one is making you read other people's work. Neat? Neat.
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My main problem with many if not all of the
AntiAlternate Conversion Bureau stories here is that they never get finished. Like the original one done by Blaze... never finished. Cannon, fannon and out of character I can work with. No ending bothers me. Maybe I'm wrong and there are some other finished stories other the Rated Ponystar's so-so work on it. Sorry. My life and time is too short to bother at this point swimming though these unfinished messes.7105733 7106809
Pardon me for being late to the party. Here are three writers that did The Conversion Bureau well: Chatoyance, Krass McWriter, Windchaser
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I have nothing against humanity being badass. I hate don't like it at the expense of others. The irony is that as much as seeing ponies get slaughtered by their own ineptitude and humanity being simply superior in every possible way, I DON'T mind strangely when the yokai in Yu Yu Hakisho and Inuyasha gets their arrogant butts handed to them.
7448090 Know of stories which a few human and ponies team up to kick ass and take names. Was wonder this: Do you know any stories in which the whole of humanity and ponity (and those other talking, thinking races on their world) team up to be awesome? Like Star Trek or... really can't think of any good examples.
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Imagine if they finally did a crossover proper with Equestria Girls.
7448616 O h s n a p . . .
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Abort, Retry, Fail?
Retry
Oh snap, that would be something wonderful or awful! My imagination is not always my friend. Still, not a bad thing to hope or wish for. Wonder who yo would have to ask? The producers, directors and writers of MLP:FIM would be the ones? Do not envy them then.
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I get they want to keep the shows separate. But a crossover isn't going to ruin the cartoon.
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I hate Anti-CB. It's been done to death. We'd had plenty of deconstruction. Where's the reconstruction already? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Reconstruction
This to me just proves that TCB shouldn't exist period.
The whole concept is vile, as is the vitriol it provokes.
7680991
I think it would have been fun with former humans dealing with loss of old and gaining new instincts. And if the barrier was purely a natural disaster, and there was no evil scheme.
7681092 ...Nope.
7681092 I don't.
Extinction is extinction, period.
TCB is a vile concept; as bad as the backlash it created...and misanthropy it encouraged.
(I will reiterate that Chatoyance CREATED the idea of Equestria coming to Earth ON PURPOSE, and portrayed the brain-altering if humanity and ponies burning books to erase huamnity's history and technology as a GOOD THING.
Humans not having souls? Also her idea.)
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-_-
7761934 What? Those are the facts.
7761937
I know you hate it. That is a fact.
But calling it 'vile' is an OPINION!
7761957 I disagree. I hold that it is OBJECTIVELY vile.
A = A.
Really, the whole premise is, at its core, "Being Human is a Death Sentence".
How is that NOT vile?
7761965
You make me wonder how the apes felt when these freaky hairless mutants began popping up.
7761997 ...Seriously? What does that even mean?
7761997 Just...explain what you mean by that.
This is also plagued almost all fics that set in 'future'. No matter how much time passed - Equestria always stays the same. Hundred, two hundred of five hundred years? Nothing changed. Ponies simply too stupid to create something new. Up to a one fic that happens to be twenty thousand years after canon... And ponies biggest achievement there? They create TV and cell phones. Tried to argue with an author that it just ridiculous but... "They just not as smart as humans".
8148853
Reminds me sadly of Breath of the Wild where 10,000 years after developing the divine beasts, Hyrule is STILL in medieval stasis even BEFORE Calamity Ganon hit!
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Sometime I think that writers (professional and fanfiction one) simply unable to grasp just how big this massive time periods is.
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Also, it's pretty clear ponies just advance in DIFFERENT WAYS! Considering the recent invention of the steam engine.
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Well, I'm fairly sure that they also have some sort of compact combustion or electric engines that they used on carts in "The Cart Before the Ponies". Because IMO they clearly not muscule-powered.
And hell! Two-thirds of their entire population lack any means of precise item manipulation and they still able to create machine civilisation. That alone in my opinion worthy of respect.