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She should have braught a silenced M4 set to Semi Auto
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M4s aren't a thing yet. Think WWII and gangster firearm tech. I won't give any spoilers, but I can say that some more exotic firearms are going to be showing up later on too, but nothing that you'd see on a "modern" battlefield.
Gadget Steelmare, subverting the "tragic backstory, tragic character" trope one story at a time!
I enjoy giving some of my characters really horrible backstories and upbringings, then making them turn out pretty decent and well-adjusted. Parents abandoned you when you were a foal? Eh, it happens. No sense making it define your life. Better to just move on and focus on more important things.
Stealth, Speed, Secrecy. gotcha.
yay more!~<33
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She SHOULD have brought a small shrouded mirror.
Should've brought a mirror.
Hey I'm just wondering, what voice does Twilight have in your head when you're writing for her?
It's something that I've noticed with M-rated stories, I can't hear Twilight's voice when I'm reading it. It's difficult with the rest of the mane six too.
Anyone else got this?
As to the chapter Shit got fucked up, I didn't see that coming.
And Gadget fucking with Twilight, again she definitely knows her secret
Great craic as always.
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Twilight sounds like Twilight in my head. Her voice just has that more snarky, cynical tone most of the time. Take some of the exuberance and cheery demeanor out of it and you'll have an idea of how she sounds in my head.
All this talk about her weapon choice reminds me, in an earlier chapter Twilight mentioned not being able to put a silencer on her revolver, but she could on her automatic. My question is why? I have little knowledge of guns but surely putting a silencer on a revolver would be as simple as threading the barrel and screwing it on, right? Automatics can have rotating or non-fised barrels that would make that harder. This seems backward to me, I would have thought revolvers would have had silencers before automatics.
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The kick of a revolver made silencers nigh-impossible back then, though they did have the Nagant. That didn't have a silencer on it so much as the gun itself was pseudo-silenced by design through a gas-seal chamber. As far as I know, that's the only 'classic' revolver that ever did that. More modern revolvers have the capacity to do so of course, but most of the modern ones I've seen, you have to replace the entire barrel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagant_M1895
Pretty much all automatics use a lower caliber bullet, and were designed with the idea of putting a suppressor on them in order to reduce the noise they make when fired. Revolvers weren't. They were designed with stopping power in mind.
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The problem with revolvers is that they have a cylinder gap between the rotating magazine (cylinder) and the actual barrel itself. If you were to stick a suppressor on a revolver, it would still go bang because the gasses would be able to vent out that little gap. There isn't a complete seal to cause all the gasses to go directly up the barrel.
The Nagant that Fire Soul linked is a gun that has the ability to be suppressed due to an odd design that rocks the cylinder forwards and presses it up against the barrel when the trigger is pulled, creating a seal. They weren't designed like this with suppressors in mind, but this makes them possible. However, they're known to be very unreliable guns in spite of this interesting feature.
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Also, I'm sorry to say, but kick has nothing to do with it. You can suppress anything from a pistol to a shotgun or .50 sniper rifle, so long as there's a proper seal to funnel all the gasses from the explosion up the barrel and into the suppressor.
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Ah I see. I think I like the cylinder gap theory the most as I can't see how kick would be an issue. attaching a silencer to a revolver in a way that the kick won't break it off should be easy, and I doubt the kick would damage the silencer itself. So that just leaves cylinder gap. The idea of pressing the cylinder to the barrel sounds good, but I'm sure it's difficult to get right. It would be best to enclose the entire cylinder in a compartment that is sealed to the barrel but that would make reloading slower. It's quite the problem, I wonder how modern revolvers do it, if they do it at all.
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Like I said before, recoil has nothing to do with it. Fire Soul was mistaken. As for enclosing the entire cylinder, that's out of the question. You'd be venting the hot gasses and sparks right into the other bullets, which could cause them to "cook off," which means they'd fire prematurely. Modern revolvers don't bother with trying to be suppressed. There's no need to make them overly complicated to do that. If you need a suppressed pistol, there's plenty of other options.
None of what I'm saying is "theory," by the way. I know what I'm talking about. And as much as I love Fire Soul, I kinda have to say that he has no idea what he's talking about here.
Bottom line is it's impossible to make a suppressed revolver without an overly complicated system. Here is an excellent video showing off the Nagant revolver. It does a much better job of explaining it than I can.
7121819 Yeah, after I posted that I realised that enclosing the cylinder could result in a chain reaction of all the bullets going off, which I'm guessing would be really bad.
Also yeah, I thought the recoil thing sounded off when I heard it. I have almost no knowledge of guns but you certainly seem to know your stuff so thanks for that.
Neat, I caught back up with the story after letting seven chapters build up and it was definitely worth it, the setting is really enjoyable so far and you've made it quite believable (though the Nightmare Moon arc still feels out of place ).
Loved the aftermath chapter with Celestia and Luna, cockney Octavia was fantastic as well as her relationship with Vinyl, and I enjoyed your explanations for a soviet Russian city existing in what is basically North America going by the map of Equestria.
Twilight needs to learn the art of savestating considering how difficult it is to do stealth missions on the first go without ever getting caught. I hope Twi figures a way through here and hopefully her backup doesn't betray her.
A really fun series of chapters and I'm quite happy with where it's going .
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I'm glad you like it so far! I'm working towards a time when I can let things die down a little, let the characters kick back and breathe for a moment. That'll give us more of an opportunity to meet more characters and introduce some people you probably won't expect.
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I'm no expert, but I do my research. This is the sort of thing that can happen when something goes wrong with a revolver.
leverguns.com/articles/taylor/blowup_images/blowup.jpg
iris.nyit.edu/~bithead/anaconda/DSC00053.jpg
4.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SwSlV2FiKHI/AAAAAAAALCs/1KnNOpGnwZc/s1600/explodedrevolver4.jpg
And here's a good image of the gas that escapes from the cylinder gap. It's a pretty powerful blast.
blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cgblast-copy.jpg
7126773 Yeah, I've seen images of the gas escaping the cylinder gap before, but holy shit those guns are messed up. I'd hate to see pitures of the people who were holding them.
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Yeah, that's the stuff of nightmares. Now you know why Twilight was so quick to discard them when she and Nightmare began to have a magic-wrestle over control of them. You don't exactly want something like that happening to your guns while you're anywhere near them.
Reminds me of how I play the Hitman series. Try to be all badass and stealthy, but if shit hits the fan, oh well, TIME TO KILL EVERYBODY!!!
Fillies and gentlecolts, this is why adventurers carry around a little silvered mirror in their belt pouches. The mirror gets angled around the corner slowly so you can see just the very edge of objects and then re-positioned to allow a better view while allowing the absolute minimum of a silhouette or anything out of the ordinary. It can also be retracted immediately, and offer nothing more than a flick of movement at ground level, and at most a little flash of light.
Unicorns could even cheat more, and levitate it up toward the ceiling, above sight-lines and the downward-facing angle of security cameras.
Then again, stories wouldn't be quite so interesting without making very poor life decisions from time to time.
I was getting Payday 2 vibes with all the stealth, almost expected her to answer one too many pagers! XD
Wait this has just crossed my mind, wasn't Gadget's name mentioned at the beginning of the story?
Twilight, Twilight, sneaking in through a door and being quiet isn't stealthy. See, people can still learn who was there and what was done. True stealth is to do what you need to do then nuke the site from orbit to ensure no witnesses or data survives. It's the only way to be sure.
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Except she wanted the building and data intact. Taking over and all that jazz