But your dogs!
Your dogs!
What's fun about those?
The tat on your neck and the ring through your nose
The weed, the junk food, the violent pornography
Don't think you want to be just a little more like me?
Dash has a very serious question that only Lyra can answer. Fortunately, she doesn't get her first.
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Gonna ask my furry friend if any of this is legit.
i don't get it.
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shit man, neither do I.
I get it. Pretty on point. Lol. My only complaint is that Secret of NIMH is a don bluth production... so, ah, continuity error?
Hahaha, this was a lot of fun.
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ITS WHAT?
I mean, not to typecast here, but...you just sort of assume it'd be Lyra because...well...Lyra.
Speaking as someone who doesn't consider himself a furry, but has nonetheless crossed paths with members of the furry community in some shape or form fairly regularly (being a brony helps--lots of overlap in the community apparently), this is really pretty much all it is. You're only a furry if you specifically want to be one. And even then, what entails as "furry" is sort of open to personal interpretation--not all furries "furry" in the same way as the other.
But obviously that's not specific enough for Rainbow.
You know, liking either of those films isn't necessarily proof of furryism, and I've crossed paths with lots of people who like both of those films that aren't furries and who'd take great offense at the implication of otherwise.
And I can verify that as my dad loves Disney's Robin Hood, and I can guarantee you he is NOT a furry. 
I rather like it too, and as already mentioned, I do not consider myself a furry.
As for Secret of NIMH (not a Disney movie BTW), that can go get thrown out the window--the book it's based off of is so much better.
Actually, you did. Secret of NIMH, remember?
Anyway, this was an amusing enough read, I suppose, though I'm not totally sure on just what we're getting out of it in the end...I suppose, either way, Rainbow seems to have made a new friend, and friendship is magic, so...there's at least that.
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I'm glad it's not just me.
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Well, If multiple people tell me my story doesnt make sense, that ain't their fault, its mine.
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I think it's more a case of it doesn't definitively answer RD's question that starts it all off, in the sense that it leaves it open as to which it really is, but doesn't explicitly say as such.
I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing though, because like I was saying before, this is a subject that isn't necessarily clear cut, so leaving it at least a little nebulous actually feels kinda fitting.
And even then, it was still a humorous read either way, so it's got that going for it.
I like the understated, subtle ending.
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No, it's obviously their fault. They read the wrong kind of story. They should have known better.
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He used to work at Disney, If I remember that documentary right.
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And Walt Disney used to work at Warner Bros, but we don't call any of the animation he later came to produce as Warner Bros films, now do we?
No the fuck it's not!
Good suits are thousands.
"Killer Queen, Daisen no Bakuden, Bites Za Dusto"
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Yeah, whilst I'm not a member of the community I'm sympathetic to it. Considering how the internet and general media turrned it into an acceptable target. They devolved the idea (which like all hobbies has millions of permutations) into "Your a sex obsessed loser in an animal suit". Which is fucking sad.
It's the same in any fandom, furries just get singled out because the fursuits are a bit more bizarre then usual cosplay and it's easier to accuse the hobbyists of bestiality.
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Have you ever heard about the legend of rainforrest, young pandawan.
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Silly rabbit, you must of misread my post.
I make it abundantly that hobbies have millions of permutations, both extreme and mundane. So some on the extreme end fucked up? Who cares? There's Nazi bronies, murderous Soccer hooligans and predatory actors. Doesn't mean we tarnish everyone with the same brush.
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if he died after a few films that didn't match the success of the other company, I have no doubt that we would have people confusing his work with Warner Bros. Especially years after it was news.
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Still doesn't mean it's accurate to call his films Disney films, considering Disney otherwise had nothing to do with their production.
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But have bronies fucked up real life event enough to get shadow ban from hotels first try?
That's the first impression they showed to the world. Too many 'bad people' and not enough 'good guys' in their community for them to stay civilized.
Bronies can do if(somewhat?) Comiccon can do it. Anime weebs can do it. Even the tumblr crowds can do it. So why can't the furries?
You had me at the reference to a Vylet Pony song. And as someone who was a furry (or at least close with people who were), I can say that this is pretty accurate for a lot of people.
Dash got fur-pilled.
MLP:FiM design criticism after my own heart.
Wise advice. Enjoy the art, skip trying to join the community. Either join it or don't.
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One of the reasons I got involved in the pony fandom and not the furry community was that there were a number of early bronies who doubled down and embraced the reputation of being horse molesters. The furries who are concerned with their fandom's reputation seem like a no fun zone to me.
Very economic use of titling. Sometimes I’ll end my own summary blurbs with a leading question, but you went whole hog by making the leading question the name, and the presumed retort in the chapter name. It’s a strong hook for any passing reader.
Onto the fic itself, the second sentence specifically mentions a “closed fist”. This clues in the reader that this scene of ‘get[ting] the door’ takes place in the EqG universe. The tags do too of course, but no one on this website ever reads those. Still, its important to establish this is not taking place in baseline Equestria, so the fic’s premise of Rainbow Dash fretting about zoologically-oriented kinks makes sense.
Knowing all of the above, there’s no tension in wondering who is pounding on the door. Its obviously Rainbow Dash looking to get advice from archetypal sex weirdo Lyra. However, we do have tangible tension in knowing that Lyra isn’t present. Dash will be speaking to Bon Bon instead, who is a complete wild card.
Oh thank Glob, a cartoon reference I actually recognize. Chalk one up for Casket.
This fic’s snappy delivery of info doesn’t let up. Bon Bon’s status flips from “wild card” to “openly contemptuous”, upping tension further with Dash’s inevitably asking her for advice instead of Lyra. And with reader expectations now built to full fever pitch, Dash blurts out the fic’s premise. Its comically blunt, and its only leadup is Dash crowing that Bon Bon knows her by reputation and Bon Bon in turn needling Dash for having no tact whatsoever. In other words, its supremely efficient in that it furthers ongoing character establishment while also pushing the plot along.
Then comes our curveball that Bon Bon is the one better equipped to advise Dash on the Furry conundrum. This expedites the plot pleasantly; at this point the reader would expect Bon Bon having to stall Dash until Lyra showed up to move things forward. But instead we get Bon Bon’s tightlipped affirmation that she’ll be our deuteragonist. With the present tension thoroughly resolved, the scene hard cuts to the talk the readers clicked on the fic for.
And here we get the clear lead-in to Dash pondering her ‘furry’ status. Rather than the mundane real-life method of unchecked internet exposure during one’s formal years, EqG Rainbow Dash feels the possible allure of furry-ness due to understandable in-universe forces. Explicitly, the Ponying-Up phenomenon.
When writing a fic that has a really good lore hook, the easiest trap to fall into is just turning the participating characters into talking heads that do nothing but dispense exposition. Quips like these keep the convo colorful while maintaining Bon Bon and Rainbow Dash’s personalities.
Anyway, with Dash’s cards all on the table, tempo shifts to Bon Bon. She seems to have mellowed out compared to earlier, and she even toys with Dash’s heightened investment in the topic by stringing the latter along the ‘quiz’ tangent. She doesn drop the wise-ass routine once Dash expresses frustration though, showing good social awareness and at least an attempt at tact (which is more than Rainbow Dash has ever attempted in her entire adult life).
Bon Bon pivots to a sincere, pseudo-monologue about the artificial weight people tend to assign their hobbies when it comes to forming a sense of identity. Dash of course isn’t interested in such heady nuance, so Bon Bon pivots back to her annoyed persona from the beginning of the fic. Its an insightful character moment, hinting that Dash hurt her feelings, but on a functional level it leads us into the new driving tension for the fic’s remaining runtime. We get our Goal (evaluating Dash’s furry status), our Stakes (Dash’s self worth is on the line), and our Urgency (the evaluation will last until the end of the day). I personally think Bon Bon’s crude use of sex terms like a personal trianer or drill sergeant is a bit mean-spirited, but I can accept it in the context of this fic being expressly about niche kink exploration. I reckon this doubles as confirmation that she’s… (trying to avoid being explicit here)… the ‘man’ in her relationship with Lyra.
We move onto our montage of Bon Bon playing the role of Mister Miyagi, minus the hidden agenda. Maybe. Amid the humorous moments of weightlifting and thumb wrestling, there’s the understanding that Bon Bon is making this up as she goes. And because Dash is too self-centered to pick up on this, a detached intrigue begins building. How will this story end? At the moment, the only unfired Chekov’s Gun is Lyra, busy attending driving school. But even that has no clear path for payoff.
Appropriately, the evaluations become more clearly linked to furrydom as the montage continues. Bon Bon’s thought process clams up during these scenes, presumably to not tip her hand too much before she gives her final judgement. The only insight we get is the “bigger tits” request, suggesting that (if nothing else), Bon Bon got a free addition to her personal spank bank catalog from all of this.
An aside: “Burgz” was my most listened to song on Spotify last year. By a considerable margin, too.
Bon Bon also takes another opportunity in this scene to make Dash do her chores. A hint that she’s well and truly wasting Dash’s time, or a red herring meant to show she’s trying to play off how much genuine fun she’s having sharing her hobby with a new friend? We can’t be sure.
Aside from Ken Ashcorp, the references to the music and comics(?) were generally lost on me. But there are two reasons this is okay. First, I’m clearly not the target audience of this fic. And second, they mark the end of the montage.
You chump. You buffoon. Every brony worth their salt knows that Dash’s middle name is Jennifer. (Says the Cosetta Glasgow guy).
When it comes time for the final judgment, the narrative POV returns to Bon Bon. We see her unspoken, sincerity-driven thought process she’s kept beneath her cold-shouldered demeanor. We see her seriously weigh the Hard Truth vs Comforting Lie conundrum that has stumped philosophers for ages. We see her distract herself with the cosmic absurdity of Dash’s conundrum before snapping back to the understanding that Dash’s feelings do still matter. While I’ve yet to see Everything Everywhere All At Once, I suspect some influence is at play here.
Bon Bon sums up her chaotic train of thought in four spoken words, and Dash’s chipper reaction grants permission to the reader to feel relief. We have resolved our tension and seen our protagonist’s contentment with the outcome. Bon Bon’s invitation to the rave even carries the classic MLP aspect of a new friendship being incidentally formed.
We leave on one final character moment: the reveal that Bon Bon lied to Dash. This doesn’t reflect poorly on Bon Bon, since the ‘test’ was bupkis anyway, and Bon Bon didn’t withhold the info out of selfishness. More of a firsthand understanding that if its meant to be, Rainbow Dash will come to the personal realization without external help.
Guess I’m obligated to end with some Lonely Avenue lyrics of my own here.
And out they pour the hits and the misses…
This one was a hit. Good on you for it.
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Rainbow Responsibility Danger Jennifer Dash, thus making her the most middle-named character behind Steven Universe.
If its possible to screw a story up in the last four sentences, i just might have. Let me adjust my scholar glasses to your level- the intent of the ending returns to Bon Bons talk about how none of this stuff is predestined, and if you dont like the idea of having a hobby, then it probably isnt your hobby. So she tells Dash shes free, because she knows a dismayed reaction to a revelation like that will only drive her further away from something she clearly seems to enjoy, albeit something she enjoyed in the vein of Competition, being Dash and all. Then she extends her hand to join her in something smaller, and more open to outsiders to ease Dash into enjoying herself.
Of course, I didn't trust my readers, and went overboard with an extra unnecessary final sentence that explains the one before it- and then I STILL have people in this comments section confused about the ending.
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Well, if you wanted to walk your readers through the conclusion, I guess Lyra could have arrived back from driving school after Dash left so a final conversation could exposit the moral of the story.
I have to concede that the audience confusion here may be a repeat of the old Cozy’s Glowpinions situation where they’re searching for meaning in a fic whose main purpose was to just provide cheap laughs via a creative premise. Any moral statements that the readers pull from it might just be the result of their own overthinking.
I don’t think so though. A key line from Bon Bon that some other commenters have picked up on is her initial retort to the Am I a Furry question: Do you want to be? Personal fulfillment is what the story asserts is most important, and although the story ends with Dash oblivious to that wisdom, it also ends with the assurance she’ll “realize eventually.”
Have your burger however you like. I don’t mind, no I don’t mind.
I’m just lookin’ for the right one for me. Don’t care how long it takes to find.
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Oh no- being too hands holdy is the problem I want to AVOID.
If you say i did well, i did well. Its damn hard to measure the efficiency of a message when you're the one who's preaching it.