• Published 12th Sep 2012
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Fluttershy Doesn't Have A Kitchen! - theRedBrony



My name's Fluttershy. And I don't have a kitchen. But um… everypony seems to think I do...

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Red's Rant aka Author's Notes

Let's take a good look at Fluttershy's cottage. We see it a lot, but never a kitchen, or even a 'food room' for that matter. Only the fireplace/hearth right by her front door, which has pots and pans around it. Why else would the pans be there unless she has no stove?

Why ponies get refrigerators (in fics) is also beyond me. Their technology is a little behind ours, with some exceptions. I'm not saying artificial refrigeration doesn't exist. As in our world, it existed for something like half a century before it was commonplace for an ordinary household to have an electric refrigerator. And of course magic messes up everything when it comes to pony tech. But we've only ever seen one 'refrigerator' in the show, mind you the word 'refrigerator' was also synonymous with 'icebox' before electric refrigerators became the norm. Anyway, the only food-cooling apparatus we've seen was in the library (conveniently placed when Spike needed a bottle of ketchup) and it looked suspiciously like an ice-powered icebox of old. In fact, go back and look at that, I think I spy a block of ice on the bottom shelf (why it's on the bottom is beyond me). Hence the whole 'ice service' thing, based on our past tech and the show's canon.

Also, one of the most important reasons for home refrigeration is to preserve meat. So obviously, refrigeration probably wouldn't be as big a deal to ponies then. But Rarity seems to think it's important that a pony's milk not turn into yogurt overnight.

We've seen stoves in the show, but then again the term 'stove' is broad and could also describe a wood or coal fueled stove. Even so, maybe Ponyville has gas piping to each home in town. Or maybe just electric stoves. Or each house has a propane tank. Or magic. *snort snort* But we don't know. And even electric and gas powered stoves were fairly common in homes way before electric refrigerators were. Anyway, the cottage is way out in the middle of bu-fu, so it's a little hard to say whether Fluttershy would have any utilities that houses in town might have. Assuming they even have electricity or gas. Or maybe they pipe magic into houses to power appliances. Who knows?

And I don't know much about the toy lines, maybe they've suggested that she has a kitchen of some sort. I'd like to point out that the toy people don't know jack. They think Applejack and Big Mac are MARRIED and their children are Applebloom and GRANNY SMITH. So the toys don't count.

Either way, she don't have a kitchen.

So… I rest my case.

:3

Comments ( 109 )

Inbefore featured

i feel the need to point out a scene in applebuck season where aj is getting soda. :unsuresweetie: i believe she's pulling it out of a fridge...i mean, unless i'm mistaken... :twilightblush:

though, all-in-all, i have to say that i enjoyed this, and agree that 'shy doesn't have a kitchen.

A rant fic that doesn't suck. Nice.

1264764
Sweet Apple Acres is a (family owned) business, and as such may have filed the kitchen as a business expense. Either way, the author is correct, at least in the fact that Fluttershy uses a wood stove. Anything else is up for debate.

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...um...i kinda edited my comment after i posted it...also, it was at sugar cube corner... :fluttershysad: ...i already said i agree with the author...

This sounds like a good one shot.

1264734 lol ty!
1264764 I remember that, didn't have a chance to double check it myself. Even so... icebox/fridge ambiguity :rainbowwild:
1264766 I try! :twilightsmile:
1264772 Yes. Yes I did.

Thanks guys! Glad you like it! :yay:

The TV Trope "Schizo Tech" is prevalent in MLP.

Not so sure about refrigerators, but we do know that there is electricity, video technology, and video games there.

Iron Will outta nowhere! Nice little one-shot here, and pretty plausible. I've wondered about this briefly before, but not really enough to make any conclusions, so I just kinda go with it when people give Fluttershy a kitchen. In Stare Master, we do see a doorway leading to another room I don't think we've ever seen inside of, but the pans over her fireplace do suggest she at least doesn't have a stove.

As for the refrigerators, the box AJ got the soda from in Applebuck Season does kinda look like it has a big block of ice in the bottom, so I'd go along with the icebox idea. In fact one of my bigger gripes about season two in general was that they suddenly threw in a bunch of bits of technology that seemed too advanced for what season one established. I usually just assume they're magic-powered or something, though. I much prefer rustic Equestria, so it annoys me when fics randomly give the ponies cell phones and television and such. Some people seem to want to make Equestria into a semi-replica of our own modern world.

Firstly: great story, the running gag is nice and the consept is cute.
Secondly: Very well observed, Fluttershy appears to lack a kitchen. It makes me wonder where she prepares the food for the animals.
Then again: it's just a show, we should probably not be over-analizing it to this extend.


Oh, and thirdly: awesome image of confused fluttershy is awesome

I like to think that electricity powers the town.

If you recall in The Mysterious Mare Do Well episode ponyville apparently has a hydroelectric dam... powered by TESLA TECH! So most appliances should have electricity.

i.imgur.com/VZi30.jpg

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i have to agree with you, there. :twilightsmile: besides, some of our technology isn't really suited for pony use. :derpytongue2:

"What if the technology is given to a single pony, and for comedic purposes? Also, what about when Vinyl Scratch was using her turntables during 'Suited For Success'?"

I'm pretty sure yoghurt doesn't come from expired milk, or at least directly.

Also, I see your point. This makes our other story a bit more realistic

1265448 But, magic.

Those could be towers with arcane circles suspended around them that look a lot like Tesla whatnots, and were made by a Unicorn named Tesla(insert pony pun here).

Haha, I totally agree. I dislike how some authors are incapable of going beyond the trappings of modern day life. Just putting refrigerators and whatnot in there because they cannot imagine any other kind of life than their modern, first world one.

1265557 Holy buck for you to review the author should feel honored. 1265706 And I completely agree with that, I mean sure it's strange for use to not have cell phones or cars but then again they have hooves, so unless they were unicorns it would be very hard for them to use them...plus very odd to see a pony driving a car...unless that creature was Spike....which when then be bad ass.

Bottom line is that you got my respect dear friend for thinking of somethnig a lot of us may have not even noticed, also...please caplize the t in your pen namme....um, if that's ok with you:fluttershyouch:

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The point's isn't technology. Ponies would use stuff like how they already use stuff. Drive a car? It's not impossible to rearrange the gas pedals and stuff to make it relatively easy to use for a pony physique.

The point is the lack of imagination. Our ancestors weren't stupid (not any more than we are in general), they just didn't have access to stuff we have (like, say, infrastructure and knowledge to make cheap electronics). They didn't have toasters, so they made toast with the fireplace. They didn't have cell phones, so they just talked face-to-face almost all the time (and thus word-of-mouth became a surprisingly fast information system). They didn't have TV or even radios, so they entertained each other. These all seem inanely obvious, but surprisingly many people have a hard time imagining what this actually meant.

The world the ponies inhabit is a fantasy world. This should not mean a super-magical version of a medieval world. It means that how the world works is made up as the stories in it are told and what rules is made is entirely up to the storyteller. It should not mean that we are stuck to ripping off Tolkien.

1265021 So clooooooose!!! :twilightangry2:
1265308 I went and looked at that... and it did look a lot like a modern refrigerator... but... big block of ice in the bottom? Even so, if anyone were to own an electric refrigerator during a time when ice is prevalent, a bakery would certainly be a good candidate. idk :trixieshiftleft:
1265312 Thank you! And how would one define over-analyzing for a show that has spawned so many fanfictions, that the fanfictions have fanfictions...? lol food for thought. Get it? FOOD? For thought? Oh, c'mon! :unsuresweetie:
1265448 Good point. Did you know that Hoover Damn was opened in 1936? Think back, how many houses had electric refrigerators in '36? Maybe a few.
1265557 Apparently I'm to be honored by your commenting here. I'll be checking out your page :yay:
1265560 Oh Rarity's just benig a drama queen!
1265587 Magic does interfere with everything. Who knows? Could be a hydroelectic dam, or a hydroarcane dam. lol
1265706 My point exactly, kind sir and/or madam. Hence this fic. :pinkiehappy:
1265940 Thank you! I try. Sometimes even I don't know what's going on inside my head. And um... does the lower case t bother you that much? I made it that way on purpose... not sure why. Also funny you should note that it's my pen name, because that's exactly what it is. Not my usual internet alias, not that I'm hiding or anything. I'm ashamed of nothing! My car has a cutie mark for chrissakes.
1265999 Ooooooo kay then. That was probably all a response, but hey I think mlp is perfect the way it is. I'm just sticking to canon as best as I can. 'course it doesn't help that it has a few dif writers lol. Probably where the inconsistencies come from.

1266492
...um...i don't know if you'd like what i have to offer... :twilightblush:

"He's still not sure he deserves the attention for his story, dude. Oh, and he tends to not comment on many stories. Like, only on three, total, not including his own."

1266492 Honestly...yes, I guess it because when it comes to proper grammer and spelling English I have to nicpick everything and people writing amazing stories but not having the first letter of their pen name really annoys me for some reason...just wish I knew why. Also brohoof for the cutie mark...what kind?

1266661 It's a red Chrysler LeBaron convertible, with Big Mac's apple on both quarter panels. Simple magnets I had printed and cut out the shape. I figured red = Big Mac. Funny you should mention that, my car's name and in inside joke spawned my pen name. Pic of my car

I feel you on the nitpicking part (it's niTpick btw, while we're at it :raritywink: ). Not about my name lol, but I see where you're coming from, everything else is perfect, yet there's just one tiny little blemish. Glad to know you value my work so highly. Have you read any of my others?

1266720 DDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN....that's a really sick car and the Big Mac cutie mark makes it 20% more bad ass.

And makes sense.

Damn, talk about an epic fail :rainbowlaugh: my bad. But you make a vaild point :ajsmug: and I believe so, otherwise how would I not know you published a new story:rainbowhuh: :yay: I'm hoping if you ever have the chance you will take a look at my own work I have published, I have respect for you my brother, keep writing, I'll be watching and reviewing, always.

As far as modern convenience, she DOES have lamps and a radiator...

1267554 Never said she didn't :raritywink:

1268694 Washing technology would probably develop slowly in a society where nudity is normal :rainbowlaugh:

It's an interesting premise to be sure. But I believe at the very least she has a kitchenette. Here's why.

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Off to the left of her fireplace/stove is a door we have seen in two episodes, Stare Master and Putting your hoof down. In putting your hoof down she manages to cut and arrange a special salad for Angel Bunny. This argues for several things. She has a refrigerator. At the start of that episode she gives him a normal salad that is not wilted. She does this in a matter of moments which tells me she did not travel to the market or go to her garden to get the ingredients. She has to have knives and a cutting board, which likely means a counter. Now while she likely does make her soups in the stove in the living room, she could in fact have an oven in the kitchenette which I have more or less just shown you has to exist for these facts to make sense. But let's say she does not bake. At the very least she needs a place to store utensils and a place to keep a refrigerator to avoid her vegetables wilting. Good story though.

1272356 At least you're thinking about this like I am! I still doubt electric refrigerators are common, or that she has one. And I did give her a 'food room' with a sink, counter, and cabinets. I see your point about the salad being refrigerated, but who knows? Then again, the show's writers take a lot of liberties with (what they would undoubtedly consider) mundane things like these. Even the house itself. I don't know where you got that drawing of her house, but if you pay attention in the show you'll notice the room doesn't follow that diagram 100%. There are scenes that show the hearth being next to the seating instead of against the adjacent wall like in this diagram, etc.

We're all probably overthinking things here, but my main point was that a lot of writers simply don't think about these things as deeply as we are right now, like this guy said -> 1265706

Anyway, I'm glad you liked the story, I might disagree with you, but like I said, at least you're putting as much thought into it as I am! :yay:

1272700 Well that brings us to another problem with the show sadly, consistency. :rainbowlaugh: The library has been shown to have numerous layout changes and just things that are flat out wrong. As for the drawing its an artist's floor plan on dA done from viewing various parts of her home. You're correct, that door does disappear at times, but the one over by her stairs does not. For myself, when I write out a scene I study the environs of the location pretty thoroughly. I do in fact have Shy going off to the kitchen to brew tea. I believe that she at the least has a hotplate that she uses for small things like that. I will agree with you that no scene in Shy's cottage takes place in a kitchen, but I would argue that the accumulated evidence for something to prepare food in outweighs the lack of evidence. But that's actually the beauty of fanfiction. That which is not expressly canon can be made up without risking the ire of the readers. We have set characterization of certain characters, and ready made locations that readers are familiar with, but whatever is off camera can be made up as needed.

1272777 "but I would argue that the accumulated evidence for something to prepare food in outweighs the lack of evidence."

^ Like I said, a food room. lol. Pretty sure she'd have a tea kettle stashed somewhere. But very well said sir. :raritywink:

A note on technology: what a lot of bronies make in terms of a mistake, is that technological development is not linear. As long as a few key inventions are made, new inventions are mostly spurred by need and the invention having a marked desire. For example, in a world where there are plenty of alternatives to a candle (including ones that do not ignite flammable gas), few are interested in the light-bulb or flashlight.

1273748 Very true, and I touched on that in the rant chapter. Pony needs are different (necessity is the mother of invention!) Plus they have magic so that just screws everything up!

..Fluttershy does have a kitchen.

With the power of magic. :fluttershysad:

You know, its fics like this that spark indepth discussion and debate on something mundane in a fantasy world that makes me really like this fandom and the internet as a whole.:twilightsmile:
If I hadn't graduated from my undergrad and was a bit more ballsy, then I would totally do an academic paper on MLP character analysis.:twilightsmile::rainbowlaugh:

1320565 *snort snort*
1347609 lol :yay:
1521387 Hey I do what I can. I like to think more goes on in her head than 'eep!'
1582389 Implying something are we? :rainbowlaugh:
1619547 Hehe, yea. I mean this fic in itself was only to address one tiny miniscule aspect of the show. Pretty neat how that works out, eh?

1619594
Gotta love how it works out.:twilightsmile:

I've occasionally given this some thought, but... Not this much.

Now that I think about it...

Yeah. I think only one or two of the fics I've read that take place in Fluttershy's cottage actually recognise the fact Fluttershy probably doesn't have a stove, much less a kitchen.

Although I'm willing to bet the only reason Fluttershy's kitchen exists In 75% of the fics it does is so that Fluttershy and the writer's OC can bang like rabbits in it.

Am I right?

1686668 Yes you are :rainbowwild:
1735199 Sorry, my olde english is a little rusty lol. I may change that... some day. But really, the only reason I wrote Luna in old equestrian was for fun. Her lines were supposed to be a little out there. Thanks for the tip though!
1818682 Hey, when I make an argument, I have evidence. Red don't mess around. :pinkiehappy:

1819056
MYAAAAAAH. YOU BASTARD.
I was almost asleep. Then the notification sound played on full blast and scared me shitless.
It took me forever to figure out what it was.

...I'm scared. :fluttershyouch:

1819170 TROLOLOL :trollestia:

1961890 IKR! I was thinking one day, 'Fluttershy doens't have a kitchen, I should write a fic about it.' And hell, it actually worked! I think it turned out alright. :twilightsmile:

We've seen stoves in the show, but then again the term 'stove' is broad and could also describe a wood or coal fueled stove.

In one of the episodes in the Apple's kitchen, there's clearly a bellows on the stove, so it's got to be wood or coal (and I'd think bellows would be more useful on a wood stove). They might be far enough in the country to not have gas service (or whatever), though.

Also, an aside: gas lighting (and probably gas stoves) are far more old tech than most people realize--gaslights have been used since the late 1700s, maybe earlier in China. Streetlights date back to at least 1417 (London, presumably oil lamps or candles).

2481893 I know right?!

Hope you liked the story! :twilightsmile:

Finally got around to reading this. Good stuff. Heh, guess Luna still has to adjust to modern salesponysminotaurs and their tricky ways.

I would like to say (because you mentioned them) that I have used a wood burning kitchen stove before. It's really neat, though it takes some time to heat up, and is really heavy, being made mostly from iron or steel. It pretty much has no differences between a modern gas or electric stove. It has an oven for baking and a metal surface on top for pots and pans. And you adjust the temperature by moving what your cooking away from or closer to the wood burning chamber, and by pulling or pushing a handle that changes the flow of heated air from the fire.

Keeping enough wood chopped and dry to use a wood stove though… Meh. Although, you can use coal for the stove I had used. Assuming you know where to get coal. The kitchen stove doubles as a heating unit for the house if you want.

Err… Seems like a good place to stop. I might be a little off topic, but I think you already covered everything.

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but I think you already covered everything.

Glad someone thinks so! Shit. I did try to cover everything.

And yea, wood burning stoves. Applejack has one. I mean, unless you need a bellows to work a gas stove. :raritywink:

It just never ceases to amaze me how so many people simply can't think their way around not having a modern gas/electric stove. You know what I mean? You can imagine a world with colorful, magic, talking ponies, but you can't wrap your head around the absence of a modern kitchen in said world?? Some writers, man... some writers.

2481893
Street lighting is believed to date back to the Greek or Roman civilizations, mostly so people wouldn't trip at night and to deter theives. Street lights with a sort of automatic ignition system have been found to have existed throuout the Arab empire (Damascus, Cordoba...) for similar reasons.
The first kerosene lamps were actualy from Austria in the late 1800's.

This has been a random historical note by someone with a name shamelessly ripped off from fantasy as old as Tolkein.

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