A side story of the pony pov series. It was intended as a world building journal entry, but it became too big for that. This is the story of Venus, and her son, Cupid. Cupid was the foal of the Alicorn Venus, back between the age of the Three Tribes, and Discord's rampage. He was a messenger of love. Now he no longer exists, it's like he never existed at all. What happened to him? Venus at last tells her side of the story in this interview quoted directly from her.
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Thanks! :-) And thanks for the comment.
What was the name of the servant created from that mare´s own soul?
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I purposely left that ambiguous, something for the readers to decide on their own.
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You love doing that, don´t you?
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I want to give readers wiggle room on a few things.
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Well, is it at least a sort of angel, like Dark World Applebloom?
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That, or Venus' own version of the Wolf. Like I said, I wanted the readers to decide.
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Not messing with Love ever again, just in case.
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Wise choice.
Greetings and Well Met.
Or Queen Tiamat, and in this case it's hoARD.
Very well.
Special friend eh?
I see.
DeistineD. Also, Huh?
All right, I can wrap my head around that.
Indeed?
No worries, it makes perfect sense.
Or could comprehend.
Daaaw...
Sweetie Belle?
I personally think it may be helpful if you just get it off your chest, it was a hard thing for you, yes, I know, but, please.
Thank you.
Oh?
How noble of him.
I can imagine.
Oh?
Go on.
He sounds like a very noble pony.
I see.
Did he now? Not bad.
Venus, goddess of Love in Roman mythology and here, being interested by Mars, who true to his name, is no stranger to a fight. Go on.
Oh?
Makes sense.
I'd imagine that helped with him not suspecting anything.
A Knight in Shining Armor eh?
Good question.
How noble of him.
I suspect I know one draconequus who is interested in using him as the base of fairy tale heroes.
Yes, not the best of terms is, one way to put it.
I'm not surprised she did. Also, frying pans are the most versatile and effective of weapons.
I suspect that had he not fallen, he would have appreciated such a noble hero and how perfect he was to you, considering his portfolio.
True.
And cue the fangirls squeeing.
He did.
I really shouldn't. But I will. Can you feel, the love, tonight...
Aphorodite, Greek goddess of love, clever. Also, nice.
The Goddess and beauty part being an added bonus that he's not complaining about.
Daaaaw...
I see.
Nice.
Oh dear.
Poor you.
Oh dear...
Hear that Coffee Swirl?
I suspect she might have, yes.
Oh?
Reminds me a bit of Twilight in a sense.
Oh dear...
Yes, it wouldn't work that way.
Pity.
Sadly, she belongs to both categories.
Oh dear.
So he was a teen.
I'd imagine that invoking the wrath of Justice and Judgement would be a terrible idea.
Magic Star, didn't she and Abracadabra merge to form Trixie?
I see.
Oh dear.
Yes. I can imagine.
Yeah, must have been a fun time for him.
Oh no...
Uh-oh...
Had he, perhaps it would have spared him such a cruel fate.
Take whatever time you need. I can wait.
*lower head, removing hat, and plays funeral march*
Oh dear...
*winces*
Oh dear, this won't end well.
Currus, what did he embody again?
To stand in the way of an angry mother is to invite Mortis. No offense Mr Mortis.
And is going to pay.
Oh boy.
She's nuts.
I can understand that if she repented, she's still be punished, but good to know you'd have been willing to forgive.
That's even worse.
She should have known better though.
Yikes.
In canon yes, but thanks to Morning Star, Cupcakes! Pinkie got her hooves on the Concept Killing Knife.
Considering what she did, she doesn't deserve to to be known.
Yikes. Remind me never to anger Your Father.
Good riddance.
Agreed.
I'm listening.
Wow, I, wow.
Oh. Dark.
Wow, poor AJ...
I see.
A laptop, talk about impressive advances in technology...
Nice.
As much as I enjoyed the Wedding arc and am curious about Kifuko, that would have been interesting to see.
Huh, cool.
There is not a word in the English language to describe the hatred I feel for that mare.
I suspect that was the hardest blow to her.
Poor Venus.
Yep.
...
Yes, it's for the best.
I, don't know what to say here.
Aye.
Having one of your own kin erased from existence...
Not surprised.
I suppose it's something, no?
Yes, hard to be more empathetic than Empathy in physical form.
One being erased from existence, amazing how much of a difference that can make.
I can imagine.
Puerelis is Joy, Laughter, Happiness, emotions often associated with love, not surprised.
Traveler. One L. Also, I cans see why the would consider it her fault, as she IS Magic and the Concept Killing Spear was created from Tirek's Chariot of Midnight which I think is magical.
Aye.
Especially considering their role in your union with Mars.
Agreed.
Who is Eremo again? Knowledge?
Probably not.
Hm.
At least it's something. Who IS Turris again though?
*smiles a bit*
Agreed.
Aye, poor guy.
Ah, so Discord has already fallen. Considering Strife is conflict and Natural Selection, I'm not surprised that her domain is so dangerous. Also, guess even Havoc and Entropy thought it was too dangerous, which is why they created Rancor to safely incorporate Destruction's power without the trouble either of them had with it.
Hm, this was after his fall, right?
Nor would anyone.
Considering she's Passion, Violence and stuff, not surprised.
In her dark realm, Entropy sneezed.
I, see.
Well, it's something.
Hm.
This was the Love Poison Incident, isn't it?
: Oh come on! One time! One time!
Aye.
...
Ah yes, cause and effect, that annoying thing we deal with on a regular basis.
Gaia, as in, that Gaia?
It probably helps her more than you realize.
Yeah, definitely THAT Gaia. Not that I have a problem with that.
Heh, that's a very nice touch.
This makes me wonder, if Fluttershy's ascended to full Alicorn status, has Fluttercruel ascended to full draconequus? And how would that work if they even could? Would Fluttershy explode twice like Amiticia did?
This is really nice, easy to forget that Friendship and Love are very similar, and one can lead to the other, besides, she is ALL love, not just romantic love, there's also familial and platonic love between friends as she said here, this is a very nice touch.
(This was a bit of a sad fic, but I've always been curious as to what the exact circumstances led to Cupid being killed and Venus being THAT pissed. Also, like you said, she was very close to going Nightmare, and I am morbidly curious to what her Nightmare would be, I admit. Not to mention her body shape, mane and tail in the cover image reminds me of Nightmare Moon. You'd expect Venus to have more pink, then again, we have enough pink with another certain pretty pink pony Princess. Cadence. In anycase, I have to write up my play by plays for your latest 4th Wall variety show, wow you pump those out fast, practically faster than I can keep up, as well as the latest chapter of Season 8, in the meantime, this is ShadowLDrago, signing off.)
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DeistineD. Also, Huh?
Didn't you ever Watch My Little Pony Tales, or read 7 Dreams/Nightmares?
"Sweetie Belle?"
G3 Sweetie, who then became G4 Sweetie. Who Chrysalis felt was a kindred spirit for them both being Cadenza's 'cast off' bits.
"I suspect that had he not fallen, he would have appreciated such a noble hero and how perfect he was to you, considering his portfolio."
Logical.
"Can you feel, the love, tonight…"
Venus, "I'm touching him, so of course he can."
"The Goddess and beauty part being an added bonus that he's not complaining about."
HEH!
"Poor you."
Venus, "You thought godhood didn't have a price?"
"Magic Star, didn't she and Abracadabra merge to form Trixie?"
Yes. Her SHADOW OF EXISTENCE did in the G3 timeline.
"Had he, perhaps it would have spared him such a cruel fate."
Yes.
Currus, what did he embody again?
The chariot tarot.
"Good riddance."
I just hope she come across as a cliche Diamond Tiara flanderized.
"Having one of your own kin erased from existence…"
Of course, Entropy put down her own son for completely different reasons and motives.
"One being erased from existence, amazing how much of a difference that can make."
And Cupid was a demi-god.
"Who is Eremo again? Knowledge?"
More or less. He is the Hermit Tarot.
"At least it's something. Who IS Turris again though?"
Tower Tarot.
"Hm, this was after his fall, right?"
Yes.
This was the Love Poison Incident, isn't it?
: Oh come on! One time! One time!
Heh.
"This makes me wonder, if Fluttershy's ascended to full Alicorn status, has Fluttercruel ascended to full draconequus? And how would that work if they even could? Would Fluttershy explode twice like Amiticia did?"
They have one vessel, not one soul.
Thanks for the play by play and indepth comment!
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Eenope to both.
I figured as much.
Indeed.
I'm not sure if that was a joke, or if you're missing mine.
It's true isn't it?
No, no, I'm well aware it does, as a general rule, all things tend to have a price. Again, as a general rule.
Right, gotcha.
Thought so.
Not what I meant, what I meant is what does he embody, like Venus embodies Love or Amiticia Magic.
She did. I did have the similar kind of loathing to her as I do to Diamond Tiara in general, with the notable exceptions being this one due to all the stuff she's had to put up with, Time Loops DT who's a fairly nice pony, and generally, Diamond Tiaras whom have grown up, as such.
True.
Yeah, and since he's part of Love, literally, or, was, rather, it' gotta be even wore for poor Venus.
More or less works for me.
Riiight.
Figures. If memory serves, before his fall, he was a fairly decent pony, a bit arrogant, but not to the point where it would be annoying, right?
Happy to get a chuckle out of you.
Fair enough. I can imagine if they keep sharing a body, between Cruelty/Fluttercruel's ability to rearrange matter, and Gaia's ability to truly Create, they make a good team, add to that that they know each other very well so can work in tandem as a sort of Yin and Yang dynamic, might prove to be an interesting possible future.
Didn't I say I'd do this for Pony POV in general no matter how much I may regret it at times? Off topic, you'll be glad to know, I'm, roughly a quarter way through my play by play for your latest update of Season 8.
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Coffee Swirl: "Hearing it and believing it are two very different things."
(And yes, I have the right to do that; Coffee Swirl is my character.)
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Really? Cool. Also, you're a stubborn pony, Coffee Swirl.
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Coffee Swirl: So's Applejack.
(Yeah, I never expected him to become as liked as he is; he just existed to voice my complaints with the Gaia Arc of the POV series.)
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Yes, but she's a silly pony.
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I just hope she come across as a cliche Diamond Tiara flanderized.
She did. I did have the similar kind of loathing to her as I do to Diamond Tiara in general, with the notable exceptions being this one due to all the stuff she's had to put up with
GOD! 0-0 I MEANT I HOPED SHE DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!
And again, do NOT mention that fanfic to me.
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OH, sorry, sorry, I misunderstood, my point being, I hate her as a character due to the atrocities she's comitted, Diamond Tiara, as bad as she is, would never do something like that.
And very well.
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The PROBLEM with hate sinks, is that since they're programmed just to be hated by the audience, are programmed to have NOTHING that they won't stoop to, regardless of their actual upbringing, social status, or how much sense it even remotely makes.
The ONLY TIME I've seen this not done, and it left me bewildered when it did, was a power rangers episode where the high school prissy girl was swoon by an ancient egyptian monster, but backed off when she saw he intended to actually hurt people.
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I see. I think that that Diamond and Silver were just annoying, it's only in Flight to the Finish that the fandom started to really hate them.
Good story.
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Thanks.
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During Discord's second rampage, he turned an innocent filly, Archer, into a mockery of my Cupid. Already skilled with the bow, Discord gave her wings and twisted her mind so in parody of my son's duty she began to shoot any pony she laid her eyes on, including her own family. After she was freed of Discord's violation, she nearly forsook her cutie mark in remorse, until Veritas, excuse me, Applejack, spoke with her not to let Discord damage what made her proud.
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I'm afraid I don't see how this is related to what I said.
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I'm sharing with you what I added to the story.
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Ah. I suspect Venus didn't take that well at all.
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What mother WOULD take it well seeing a send-up to her deceased son?
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Touche.
5672680 Something you added was a mistake! for now anyways. Namely:
I can't remember every secret and detail, but I don't ever remember a Applejack accending, nor a Concept named that ever being mentioned. Since it's a 'secret not revealed yet/before she ascended' Shouldn't one of, if not both, names be
Crossed out, or disfigured/censored and such? Like Rancor's was till she 'came into being' in the timeline?5856930
The spirit world is timeless. If Applejack will someday ascend . . .
5857181 True, but if we readers, or the person she is talking too, doesn't know that yet, or it hasn't happened yet in the timeline, for us, then when she talks about them it's blooped out. Like in Season 8, when Rainbow is talking with Scoots in her dream in the newest chapter. When Rainbow talks about Discord and Tiara, it's
Crossedout, because it's 'spoilers' that isn't known yet. It's the same when Twilight had to go back to the beginning of time and fight Cadance. She knew there was an event there. It HAD to happen, but until she actually went there following her own personal 'timeline' Everything about the event was Censored both from her and from us.5857710
Logical.
5857791 Plus I thought part of the 'rules' too. After all, as you said before the 'Spirit World' is timeless, and the 'gods' can go to any time they want. But would still be spoilers and bad if someone who shouldn't know about a being from the future knew that being exists, even if that being takes part in events in the past.
Like I said, I am pretty sure I remember it being done with Twilight, Trixie, and Rancor till the 'timeline' caught up to them actually ascending. As you said as well "If Applejack will someday ascend . . ." She might, but it hasn't happened yet.
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This wasn't being shown to AJ. Or any of the little ponies.
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And a lot of what I've written was just to be contrary to stuff I didn't like. And . . . I'm actually kinda shocked to hear that honestly. But the truth is that he isn't just that anymore. He's his own character.
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Okay, he 'technically' existed before, but only as a generic ponysona. I got his name from one of those lists where you get assigned two names based on the first letters of your first and last names. Coffee Swirl was the name that my two corresponded with; he didn't really see much use outside of a ten minute RP (where he ended up 5 miles tall... don't ask), but I had him stored away in the back of my mind. So I used him to vent in that first story of his... then made the second story to justify his viewpoints... then made the third to give him some closure... and it just kept going.
And now... well, I still say he's the only Mary Sue the Blank Wolf won't hunt.
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THre IS a middle ground between Sue and Useless ya know.
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And it's reserved for characters that aren't baristas who fight mad gods in their spare time.
5649004 What would Venus' version of the Wolf DO, exactly? It wouldn't exactly go around eating/deleting anyone who tried to break up sweethearts...right?
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No comment! Never sad it would be her erasure.
6214073 Just a guess; you DID say "her version of the Wolf". I just went with the exact words.
How did Gaia come back if she got turned back into Fluttershy?
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(-: She didn't. She was sealed back into her form as Fluttershy, and she sealed her power away into a Butterfly until she's mature enough to handle it (not having had Twilight's training and upbringing). It's NIGHTMARE WHISPER that's gone for good.
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Thank you for this play by play.
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...........Jeez..........
..........This was very sad and tragic.
This unknown pegasus filly...........I did not realize the extent of the damage she has made until I read this fic. She not only murdered an innocent pony in cold blood and with no remorse, she has changed history and condemned billions of lives to oblivion, and they will NEVER be seen again...........and many accomplishments that occurred became undone and wasted.............and the worst part is, when the filly was shown what her actions caused, she. had. no. regrets. or guilt......................I'm with Rancor on this one. I congratulate Venus on her thorough execution of her revenge against this filly. This criminal deserved the fate she now endures.
But there is one sad reality this fic has taught me and one we have no choice but to face. No matter how thorough the punishment is inflicted on the wicked or satisfying and sweet revenge tastes.............it never brings back the people we have lost, especially in this case where many of the innocents have been condemned to non-existence and will never be again...........and
Out of all the sad things Venus recounted, you know which part hit me the most in the feels:
That. Really. Fcking. Sucks. You have no idea how painful it was read something so wonderful and enjoyable as a married couple, whose love was greatly built and very selfless and endearing...............to all of a sudden be undone, like if it never happened (which is literal in this case)...........that part really hurt to read.
*deep breath* All the same, great writing on your part.
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I'll admit, I got a BIIIIIG and BRUTAL comment during the chapter Twilight talks directly to Fauna Luster during her ascension, (that was supported by many), that shouted, "KILL ALL THE CONCEPTS!" As the only way mortals will know true freedom, and LZ was going, "YES YES! Someone who finally gets it!" in response. While Cupid had already met his end in the narrative long ago by that point, I supposed WRITING this, and SHOWING this, is a DECONSTRUCTION of that sympathy.
7316750 Why do you think so many of them thought that was a good idea?
Wow, there are no words to describe this.
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You'd have to ask them. I think it's because they think the existence of God inherently makes their lives meaningless. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/50139/60/pony-pov-series-season-six-dark-world-shining-armor/episode-119-dark-world-alicorn-rising-welcome-home#comment/3038204
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It was a deconstruction of a short I saw where a little girl kills Cupid. Remembering that Cupid's parents are Venus and Mars.