A uni graduate attends her finishing gig and readies for the question; her answer isn't to everyone's liking.
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Comment as requested! So, I liked this. The buildup was brilliantly written, and more interesting than the viva itself - I really wanted to read the next chapter (to know why the professors (especially given the pacifist nature a lot of writers give pony society) have those views, and why Vine was so keen to challenge them, and then maybe to get more of the backstory to contextualise why Plum reacted like he did) and then realised there wasn't one! So, yeah, I like it, but it feels like a promising start to something deeper, or a side story, rather than a standalone one shot. But it's definitely good!
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Cheers, man, for the time and the comment. Interesting idea to extend this. Maybe I will. I haven't really thought about it, as it's just a little something I threw together this evening. Glad you liked it!
Ok, I’ll bite. The problem with vine is that she a pacifist to the point that she would refuse to kill anyone in any circumstance to save someone else, but the problem with her logic is that she assumes that the person who she is killing wants to live. What if the person is threatening to kill two people unless they are killed because they want to die? In real life, this manifests as “suicide by cop” and similar behaviors, usually because they are too afraid to do it themselves or have a religious or financial reasons to technically not commit suicide. All of a sudden, Vine’s greatest objection has been overcome, because the person you are killing to save two other people wants to die, so you would be filling their last wish while saving two other lives.
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Thanks for the comment, man, and for the time. Glad you chipped in on the issue as well. It's an interesting question. In the story, Vine does concede she would kill the pony should he wish to die. If I tweak your example a tad, it highlights that, by her logic, should a gunman who does not wish to die attempt to kill two people, she would still let him do it. She says the lawfulness or unlawfulness of the act isn't what she takes issue with, so that would mean that an act of justifiable homicide, e.g., shooting a spree killer about to shoot X number of others, would only be acceptable to her should the spree killer wish to die. With the example you gave, she implies in the story that she would take the life of the suicide-by-cop pony since he does wish to die. The problem is, in a real-life scenario, how would she tell? And she also makes the point that the circumstances, for her, do not influence the morality of the action, but we've just named a couple of circumstances that could influence her decision. And also, she does mention at the start that the manner in which the life would be taken could influence her decision, which, although her decision was 'no' in all her cases, still shows that she was willing to take into account circumstances despite also saying they do not matter. So she is inconsistent in that regard. She basically makes the case that murder is the taking of a life that does not wish to be taken. Which, again, would result, theoretically, in her inaction in an instance where a justifiable homicide would, presumably, be performed by most people. But would she actually stand and let a killer who does not wish to die kill people in front of her? That's the question.