Spoiled Rich - why does she act like she does? Maybe there is a reason why she is so harsh about how one should behave.
Takes place during the episode "Crusaders of the Lost Mark".
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PostNinja
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You said English isn't your first language?! Wow, this is great! I didn't see any mistakes. I really enjoyed it. Great job! ^^
I didn't notice that English wasn't your first language, you did a good job with grammer and spelling. I liked this stroy, it makes sense why she acts the way she does. Also, I am curious what she found out that made her so suprised. Overall, good stroy.
I feel that Spoiled Rich means well for the best for her daughter but like Starlight Glimmer though with less emphasis on removing cutie marks, she was just demanding and very controlling.
I like it. There's ALWAYS a reason someone acts the ways they do. I love reading stories about the root of the cause of them... And I love writing about the subject, too. Keep on typing your stories... When you get a break from throwing shruikens around, of course...
I like this story but I feel like it sort of just ended abruptly. Maybe you could have found away to end it better like say she saw the cutie marks or something.
6645049 Do you think a situation like would count for Discord, Sombra (we've seen it in the comics), and Chrysalis' case?
Oh and Post Ninja, I believe it was Spoiled Rich who blasted you with that one dislike.
6649598 Or maybe someone just dislikes her so much that even seeing her face causes immediate hatred. I think some people didn't like her at all when they first saw her in the episode.
And thank you for your comments, everyone! I do realize now that the ending should probably have been done a bit differently. When I wrote this right after the episode aired, it didn't occur to me that many of the people who would read this wouldn't actually have seen the episode itself. For them, the ending doesn't make much sense, since they don't know about the parade at the end of the episode.
Oh well, a lesson learned. Don't assume everyone have seen an episode of the show just because you watched it six times in a row.
Nice to give her a freakin' MOTIVE for unwittingly being an emotionally abusive parent.
And here we go..... Was only a matter of time until someone would write a fanfiction to victimize Spoiled Rich and sugarcoat her actions. *sigh*
It happened for Diamond Tiara and now it happens for Spoiled Rich again.....
The way Spoiled Rich acts can't be justfied by anything. Even if what you wrote here would be true for her, this wouldn't excuse to abuse Diamond Tiara like that by dictating her how she has to live, by turning her into a bullying monster with no empathy for her victims and by inflicting verbal and probably also physical abuse on her.
What you mean is that your story gives an explanation for why she acts that way, not a justification. Her actions can't be justified.
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She is a villain. One of the worst sort even.
She is not supposed to be liked, like Diamond Tiara was not supposed to be liked before we found out that she was forced to act that way.
If you hate Spoiled Rich, you're doing it right, because you show that your sense of moral is exactly how it should be, by condemning the actions of a mother who abuses her daughter.
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Please don't tell me you really believe that she is not aware of what she causes to Diamond and that she is an abusive mother by accident.
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Just saying it's nice to see her be more than just taking over her daughter's role as hate sink.
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I was actually referring to it that you called her a "unwittingly" abusive mother. Which means the same as "unintentional abuse".
I understand what you were trying to accomplish and this is well-written, but I still don't think this justifies her actions.
Sooo, really she wanted to not let her daughter get teased like she did but it ended up with DT being a bully!
Fairly interesting and somewhat believeable, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. But I think Spoiled crossed the line at some point from just being overconcerned to being emotionally abusive.
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Way to be a judgemental prick.
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What, please? Are you kidding me? She abused a filly, her own daughter, in order to make her successful so that she can feel good herself, for having such a successful, talented daughter and getting all the praise and compliments for her in which she can bask then at the expense of DIamond Tiara, and ruined a significant portion of her foalhood with that.
Not to mention the things she did when Diamond Tiara didn't succeed and didn't fulfill her expectations and demands.....
If you think I'm a prick for this, then you really need to get your priorities straight.
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1. Antagonist and villain are not the same thing.
2. Of course we're not supposed to like her, but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to. And Diamond wasn't forced to do anything.
3. You actually judge people by their taste in fictional characters? Wow. Just wow. You do know that most people don't apply the same standards to fictional characters that they do to real people right? Besides, the only characters worth hating are unlikable ones that we're supposed to like.
7659518 I was referring to your bad attitude towards people who like a character that you don't.
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1. Manipulating someone for your personal gain is something a villain would do. That's far beyond antagonistic.
2. Rewatch "Crusaders of the Lost Mark". Diamond Tiara clearly expressed that she wasn't actually okay with doing all these things and that she only did it because her mother forced her to do it.
3. You underestimate this and you don't understand how the human mind works. If someone has sympathies for a child abuser and cuts him or her slack, then they will have the same sympathies for a character in a TV show who abuses a child.
People always relate to characters in TV shows if they are either like them or similar to them or if they know someone who is like them and who they sympathize with. Or they don't relate to the characters and hate them if they met people like them that they hated too.
I hated Diamond Tiara for the things she did to Applebloom, Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle, because I was heavily bullied myself and know how it feels. I could suddenly relate to her after it turned out that she has an abusive mother who forced her to do all these things and began to feel for her and like her, because I had an abusive mother too. And I immediately started to hate Spoiled Rich, because of my own experiences with my abusive mother.
In that same way, our author here relates to Spoiled Rich and sympathizes with her.
So, in the best case, PostNinja knows an abusive mother/parent who plays the victim role for abusing his/her child.
In the worst case, he is on the path to become an abusive parent as well (or already one).
People see themselves or people they know in characters and that is how it depends on if they like these characters or not.
That's how it always was and always will be.
7659589 You can never know why somebody likes a character without them telling you. Liking a character is not the same thing as condoning their actions. By that logic, every single person who enjoys a villain in any way is a terrible person. You also apparently fail to grasp is that real life and fiction ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Fiction is an art form, and art is SUBJECTIVE. Nobody has any right to judge people for their taste in art. That includes you.
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There is a difference between enjoying a villain, for bringing action or suspense into the show or for creating challenges for the characters by creating conflicts between them, and glorifying what a villain does.
In other words, saying "I like Spoiled Rich's role in the show because she is a good villain and has potential for further dramatic episodes" is perfectly okay, and nothing I criticize anywhere.
Saying "I like Spoiled Rich because she is a child abuser and I can relate to her" or saying "I like Spoiled Rich, she has reasons for what she does and can't be blamed for having had a hard life and therefore can't be blamed for her abuse of Diamond Tiara" isn't, and the latter of these two things is what PostNinja does here, he glorifies a character who is a child abuser and expresses in his fic that child abusers are just poor people with issues who can't help it to abuse their children.
This is wrong by every moral standard and if it isn't wrong for you, then you simply have no moral standard, because spreading stuff like this about child abusers with the purpose to portray them in a good light, even if it's just in a fictional story, is downplaying their actions and if you do that, you show themselves supporting of them.
>>> Trying to justify child abuse = Supportive of it, intentionally or not.
7659756 How do you know PostNinja isn't simply misusing the word "justification"? After all, English isn't his first language. And making a bad character multidimensional is NOT the same thing as condoning their actions. I shouldn't even have to say that.
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Oh boy, I didn't see this one coming.
In short, the word "justification" was a mistake like Osakayumu said, I should had used "explain" instead. English isn't my native language, so I sometimes get the context of words wrong. It wasn't my intention to justify her actions, only to explain why she is the way she is. Doing bad things is bad no matter why you do them, but usually when people do bad things they have some sort of reason for it that makes sense to them at least if no one else.
That being said, I don't like people putting words in my mouth either. I haven't said anywhere that I relate to Spoiled Rich or that child abuse is okay, or even that I like her as a villain. Accusing someone of supporting child abuse because they wrote a story about a fictional cartoon pony in a show aimed for little girls strikes me just a tad silly anyway.
Just to make absolutely clear, I wrote this story because I found Spoiled Rich to be a boring, cliché stereotype. I think that villains who are evil just for the sake of being evil are boring, and they cheapen the struggle of the heroes against them. Good characters have motives and depth, this applies to both protagonists and antagonists.
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I take you word for it.
Child abuse is a serious topic one should be careful about and writing such stories can easily give a wrong impression, especially if you speak about justification like you did. I just go at that with the philosophy I go at everything:
Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
And for villains, it makes them unrealistic as f
k, because many bad people who do bad things just do it because they enjoy it to let others suffer.
At least as long as all villains are written with that assumption.
Motive is always nice to flesh out for a character, good exploratory writing.
Why has nobody done a Christmas Carol parody with Spoiled Rich yet? She's perfect for it.
Nice to see that there are some people willing to give her a more detailed background just like before with DT.
Hope to see more of these fics.
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