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E/H some good ending ect
8368280 that's still count as one
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/755095/stories-important-news
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E or I
H or E
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E or G
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I'm seeing lots of E's so far, come on now vote!!!!
F
Whichever one doesn't involve jumping to conclusions (but I don't want A or B)
I am going to have to vote for E.
E/H
Aaaand... yeah. I think I'm gonna drop this story. A protagonist that goes this far becomes unlikeable to read, and any form of redemption feels forced.
You're going that f****** far just for a stolen book and breaking entering? What will raping the purple horse will solve? But feed the insane that lead to this.
8368917 you haven't read the last few chapters
One yay your alive two E or h.
He is releasing his anger at Cadence (and technically Celestia and Luna) towards Twilight, who at most deserves a punch or two for breaking and entering , theft, and destruction of his property. That's like punishing a kid for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar by breaking his leg.
What Cadence did to him was enough to ruin his relationship and friendship with her; what he did to Twilight is enough to ruin her friendship with him, her friends/family's friendship with him, the town's approval of him, and spend a lot of time in jail.
His only real excuse is that Sombra (what I'm assuming the voice in his head is) might be influencing his rage to areas far past normal.
The roofie and shock collars are good reasons for him to be angry, but if he was mad about that why did he wait until he saw his house. In fact, he was ok with what Cadence did until he realized that she nearly killed him, then he just flipped out and became angry about everything that happened.
He's acting irrationally and very angrily, without taking any time to think about things and how he's going to react. He's basically acting like an angry drunk.
Flunitrazepam (the roofie) has paradox effects of: anxiety,
aggressiveness, agitation, confusion, disinhibition, loss of impulse control, talkativeness, violent behavior, and even convulsions. Which makes what he's doing make much more sense, but you can't expect the audience to check the side effects of a drug you might have just made up.
Oh and B -> E -> F -> G* is where I think he would logically be heading if he doesn't change his behavior. (A seems very out of his character even if it was Cadence instead of Twilight)
Keep doing what your doing, despite the criticism I do enjoy the story.
*(If you do have him break up with them, he does have a reason to break up with Luna (supporting if not helping Cadence roofie him) whereas he doesn't have much of a reason to break up with Celestia; who at most didn't stop Cadence, but did heavily disapprove of it. So you might have to figure something out.)
E/H
I vote for E as it seems the most likely to happens as the news of him beating Twilight spreads.
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My bad on that, I skim through haft of that.
How about the rest of the 6 silently are behind them and he now goes on a fully detailed angry rant about what happened to him. Everyone hears, full disclosure, more people mad at sisters and disgust for their actions. Maybe a sitdown with spike and aj while the rest get TS some medical attention. Also something something sombra influence legal defense.
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I won't answer, since I know none of it will have a good conclusion.
E
Honestly forgot about this, surprised to see it continuing
C of course or A. Hey, headless rainbow makes some great stuff. Do not make this into a sappy story about the main 6 showing up and spitting this up!
Well, this desicion of brutally attacking twilight is a turning point, regardless of what happen, right now his action makes him automatically a criminal, it doesnt matter if he was controlled by some evil forces like sombra, or if he wasnt in a healthy mental condition due to being rape, here is already a goner, this will have consecuences, he now must be exiled or imprisoned, and go into trial to have a sentence, he cant have a relationship with the sisters anymore, he lost that privilege the moment he gave the first punch, so the sisters will have to break up with him, royalty cant date criminals, specially when they are guilty, twilight have family and friends that will press charges, so the best he could do now is take what he can of his belongings and go hide and run with chrysalys, he will still be a wanted criminal thought, or just stay and get captured, regardless of what he does, he is screwd, so this fic has changed now to dark
8372791I know and had read almost all of his stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kHNcV0py-c&t=105s
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That's a quite a nice song you got there especially the female vocals. Have any more?
You're definitely not the only one to have read all of headless rainbow stories. I'm probably one of the only
sick bastardperson with unique tastes that actually enjoy the way darker side of the fandom.8373074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQNy3JSSD0
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Thanks, that guy makes some good stuff.
I don't.....I don't even know anymore. I don't know what happened to the author, but everything after the three clop chapters has made me want to pull my eyes out. I won't explain the problems with this chapter; others have done that for me. Not only that, but if you were able to write this and not realize all the things wrong with it, then I doubt any scathing review from me will change anything.
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I'll give you that one....partially. It would've been difficult for him to resist Cadance physically, but he didn't need to use physical force; all he would've had to do is tell her to stop, which he could do as he's shown speaking fluently several times in the chapter.
As for the current chapter, you've more or less written yourself into a corner with Isaiah. The only way out that I can see would be blaming it all on Sombra essentially.
As an honest question, are you the orignial author of this fic, the one that wrote the chapters back in 2014? The difference in writing is just that extreme.....
8419090 No, OldManJebediah was the original who gave it to SonicBlitz18, sonic didn't did anything with it for the next few years. Sonic then put it up for adoption when he was cleaning out his works.. I was the only to take up the offer and brought it back to life, taking right after Oldman's last chapter which was the Cadance scene.
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Well, I won't lie to you. There's an enormous difference in quality between the Cadance clop chapter and what you've written.
8419521 I know... no matter well I write, I would never surpass Oldman's. It would always be compared but I'm just trying to continue it so it could have a proper ending. I'm sure there are plenty of readers saying that Oldman should never left and that the story was better when he was behind it. I'm not Oldman nor I try to be, he stared it and I plan to see it done.
Please don't say that I need a editor... don't ask.
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Well, I won't say you need an editor because that's not the biggest issue. It's the extreme leaps of logic you're making that's drawing the ire of so many readers, such as saying Cadance raped Isaiah or having Isaiah go psycho on Twilight. I can all but guarantee you that it's decisons like those that caused so many readers to criticize your fic.
8419605 Most of the criticizing I gotten thus far were from Oldman's chapters, the earlier ones specifically. you would think that my half would get the most, but it's chapters like 7 or 10 etc, but that isn't saying that my half doesn't get some now and then.
I do remember those chapters being more than a little irritating, but I elected to ignore the issues I had with them in favor of just enjoying the story. Your chapters are just much harder to ignore because they're not just some small detail or over-reaction that won't affect much and can be overlooked. The way you've written these past few chapters will undoubtedly have a massive impact on future chapters. After all, the strain you've put on Isaiah's relationship with the princesses can't just be written away at this point or resolved in just a few paragraphs.
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He showed extreme reluctance to engage in such activities with Cadence prior to their "date", to the point where he only agreed to go on it after they assured him there would be no sex involved.
Then they drugged him and refused to let him speak out without shocking him.
And no, it wasn't just a physical resistance he was being prevented from using. By the time she let him get two words in, they were already into the meat of it, and the drugs were still in his system, dulling his will to resist even further.
Oh, and lets not forget his fear of electrocution.
He explicitly said that he didn't want to engage in sex prior to the date. They assured him that it was fine, and that there would be no sex. But not only did they lie, they drugged him, and placed him in a situation where any attempt to protest on his part resulted in a painful electric shock -something he has a phobia of, mind you- the intensity of which increased every time it was applied. There is no "extreme leap of logic" here. This was rape. Just because he eventually got into it due to his drugged and sexed up state of mind, that doesn't change what it was.
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Most of your argument seems to be centered around whether or not Isaiah was raped or not, so I'll focus on that. From my point of view, the drug had weakened enough during Cadance and Isaiah's lovemaking that he could be considered of sound mind, shown by his relatively clear speech and thinking. However, I'll go with the assumption that he was stoned off his rocker throughout the entire lovemaking and any evidence to the contrary can be ignored.
During the morning AFTER their lovemaking, it's a fairly safe bet that the drug had run its course and Isaiah was back to normal, shown by his clear speech steady walking. With that in mind, Isaiah was perfectly friendly with Cadance and the other princesses at breakfast. That doesn't seem like the actions of someone who thought they were raped, and before you say something along the lines of Isaiah not having time to fully comprehend what had happened, Isaiah is shown openly discussing what had happened easily and without any signs of trouble. There was even a time gap of at least an hour with thirty of those minutes having Isaiah by himself(when he searched for the dildo) for him to think on what had happened. Finally, he even asked if they'd be doing similar activities in the future, shown in this excert.
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Of course my argument was focused on that, it was the only part of your statement that I really took issue with.
Regardless, I believe you missed the last sentence of my comment.
The important part isn't the ending, which you seem to be inordinately focused on. It's the beginning of the events, how it all started, that determines whether it counts as rape or not. Technically speaking, and judging from the modern definition of the terms as recognized by US law (and don't give me that bullshit about Equestrian law being different, therefore it's OK), this was rape.
If this were taken to a US court, it would be an open and shut case resulting in Cadence being convicted of rape via DFSA, with Celestia and Luna being convicted of either the same, or at the very least accessory to it.
Next time, do some research before you post comments on such a heavy topic.
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I apologize for taking so long to respond. I hadn't realized you'd answered.
You're right, if Isaiah hadn't given consent, then as far as human courts would be concerned, it would be rape if brought to trial, regardless of how it ended. Your misconception is that Isaiah did, in fact, give consent, if in a slightly indirect manner. Going into the date and events leading up to it, it was made very clear to him why they wanted him to take them on those dates and what they wanted those dates to conclude in, including Cadance's. He could've called off the dates and/or the activities following at any time. If you need evidence that he did, in fact, give verbal consent, then take a look at this excerpt from chapter 29.
Yes, he was uncomfortable with the idea of having sex with Cadance, but he knowingly decided to do so anyway. If you entered a rape trial with these facts also, you'd find a rape case much harder to win as the only thing he didn't give explicit consent for was the type of sex being had, something which he could've have called off if he truly wanted to.
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Two points. Firstly, that was days beforehand, a lot can change in the span of several days. Secondly, mere paragraphs after the part that you quoted, there was this:
And chapters 31 & 32 retconned his "consent" further, while simultaneously implying that the princesses didn't actually care if he consented or not:
And chapter 32 itself confirms the premeditated use of the date-rape drug Flunitrazepam, the effects of which usually last around 8 hours for a single "roofie" (the "safe" dosage of which they would have no idea of, due to his alien biology), and are known to be amplified exponentially when combined with alcohol.
Also, it implies that while Celestia may feel guilty about it, she's done this before, and with some regularity.
And even if he did say yes; in that situation, with all of the different factors at play... Just... Read this, okay?
https://www.bustle.com/articles/67926-is-it-rape-if-you-say-yes-5-types-of-sexual-coercion-explained
Even without the drugs, this scenario contains elements of all five forms of sexual coercion mentioned in that article to some degree, some of which are taken to extremes. Even if by some fucked up sense of logic this wasn't considered rape, it would still be close enough to fuck someone up and destroy their trust.
...I'm so done with this conversation.
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This conversation is tiresome for me also. The chances of either of us changing the other's mind are dim at best, so I'm perfectly content to leave this conversation.
Before leaving this conversation, however, I would like to note that the 'retcon' you say occurred is dubious at best. Cadance didn't lie or change her mind. Isaiah could've said 'no' when he regained consciousness. Before you say he was drugged, the fact that he came to leads me to the belief that Isaiah actually underdosed as, upon researching it, flunitrazepam leaves the user either unconscious or severely inebriated for several hours, neither of which Isaiah appears to be when regaining consciousness.
As far as the sexual coercion goes, no form of coercion appears strongly enough to be of any consequence(such as threatening). In fact, the only one you might be able to make a case for is sexual coercion through use of alcohol. The thing with that one, though, is that the alcohol had very little to do with it as the drugs knocked him out within moments of drinking. The drink of choice could have just as easily been switched with grape juice and been just as effective. Yes, the drug would have been slightly less effective, but from Isaiah's actions following his return to consciousness, it leads to the belief that he didn't drink enough to hinder him in any meaningful way.
As I said, neither of us is likely to convince the other. You're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. I won't respond after this comment as this conversation has become tiresome for me also.
B, E, F or G