"I"ll love you, even if they don't."
"Are you sure about this, Twilight?" Trixie looked nervous, looking up at Twilight with eyes of concern and fear. This was something only a certain alicorn saw. Nopony else saw anything but her confidence and ego. Twilight gave a small smile as she draped her wing across the unicorn's back, pulling her into a gentle embrace.
"I'm sure about this, Trix. I promise, it doesn't matter what happens, I'll always love you. I don't care what others think about us, so you shouldn't either. Besides, if my friends can't accept you, then they aren't accepting me either."
Twilight and Trixie had been dating for a solid two years, and they had managed to keep their relationship a secret from everypony, even Twilight's closest friends and family. However, Twilight had finally gotten tired of hiding her relationship from her friends, as she knew it was hurting Trixie mentally.
Nopony knew this, but Trixie was sensitive. Not physically, Twilight knew she was strong, but when it came to mental challenges, she was much more fragile. She was extremely afraid when it came to ponies judging her, and even more so when it came to being rejected. Twilight was her comfort from that. Twilight accepted her for who she was, what she liked, and forgave her for all she had done in the past. She held her at night when she couldn't sleep, she was her comfort when she was feeling down, and she was there for her when nopony else was. Twilight didn't know it, but she confessed her feelings to Trixie at just the right moment and had unknowingly saved the unicorn's life. Twilight was all she had.
"Well, okay...what if they don't accept us though? What if they try to break us up?"
Twilight only shook her head and gave an encouraging smile. She sat down in front of Trixie and pulled her into a hug, "I really doubt that's going to happen, Trixie. They forgave Starlight, and what she did was much worse than any evil deed you may have performed in the past. As for us, if they can forgive you for your past, which they have already I'm sure, then they have no reason to have anything against us dating," The young alicorn kept her wings wrapped around Trixie in an embrace, which she extended by pulling the unicorn into a light kiss. Trixie gladly accepted and returned.
When they pulled away, Twilight stood back on her hooves, releasing her marefriend from her grasp, "Now, let's do this," Twilight said before turning and walking toward her throne room, Trixie following nervously behind her. As they approached the door, Twilight's horn ignited, the door swiftly but smoothly opening with the help of her magic. Her seven closest friends: Spike, Starlight Glimmer, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, Applejack, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy all sitting around the Cutiemark Map, watching as the secret couple slowly entered the room, both now looking equally nervous, though the unicorn showing it slightly more. The first sentence spoken had Twilight's nervousness gone, however. That emotion being replaced with slight rage.
"What's Trixie doing here?" Rainbow asked, looking confused. However, her hooves being crossed indicated something else, another emotion that Twilight didn't want to guess. Twilight didn't reply yet, she only continued to her throne, where she sat down, her marefriend sitting next to her, silent as Twilight was. Looking around, the alicorn observed her friends expressions and thought about their beliefs and concerns. Most of her friends were straight, she realized. Applejack was extremely traditional and probably had a slight homophobic side to her. She always expressed the importance of a stallion and a mare being together when the subject of love was brought up. It wasn't that Applejack seemed to hate anypony that wasn't straight, Twilight just noticed the subject of it made her tense. It wasn't necessarily her fault, it just had to do with how she was raised.
Fluttershy was also straight, she had been dating Discord for almost two years as well, and everypony knew they would be getting married soon, possibly even having foals. Twilight remembered when Fluttershy and Discord first announced their relationship. It was a shock at first, but after thinking it over, it wasn't difficult to see how compatible the two were, even with their differences. The pegasus didn't seem like one to be against the LGBT Community, or against anypony, so long as they were happy.
Rarity was also straight and was just about as strong on her beliefs as Applejack was. She was known for her relationship with Fancypants. The unicorn didn't associate with the LGBT Community at all and even seemed to look down on it. Rainbow was the same way, despite her mane color. She was with Soarin and had been for nearly a year.
The more Twilight thought about it, the only friend of hers she knew to be in the LGBT Spectrum at all was Pinkie Pie. She was Pansexual. Her thoughts made Twilight more nervous that her friends weren't just going to reject her being with Trixie, but they were going to reject her for being not only a Lesbian but also being Asexual. That was something only Trixie and her sister-in-law, Cadence, knew. There were very few ponies Twilight knew that accepted her for being Lesbian, and even less that accepted her for disliking the more sexual activities.
Pulling herself out of her thoughts, Twilight took a deep breath. She had called her friends here for a reason, and she wasn't going to back down. If she wasn't going to do this for herself, she was going to do this for Trixie, who in retrospect, needed this far more than she did, and who knew, she could be wrong, her friends could be completely accepting of her and her romantic interest. Either way, she would stick by Trixie's side, "Well, girls... there are a few things that I...that Trixie and I, need to tell you."
"What's that?" Fluttershy asked, her voice innocent and meek, but curious and clearly intrigued.
"Well, to package a load of information into one sentence...Trixie and I...we're...we are..." Twilight paused and glanced over at her marefriend, who looked at her with a nervous expression that hinted with fear. Twilight took another deep breath, before expressing herself in one action and sentence. She draped her wing around Trixie as she stated, "Trixie and I are in a relationship."
The room went silent. All eyes were on the couple, some mouths agape in shock and all eyes wide in surprise. It was dead silent for a good few minutes, though Applejack was the first to speak, "Ya mean that...you and Trixie...are dating?"
"Yes, we are," Twilight replied, frank and firm.
"How long?" Pinkie asked. She was the only one in the room still smiling.
"Two years today," Twilight said, smiling again for a moment.
"That's great! Well, I'm happy for you two!" Twilight gave a nod of gratitude, and Trixie gave a tiny smile as well.
"Yes...well, why didn't you tell us sooner? Not only have you been dating her for the past two years, but you're also...what? Lesbian? Bisexual?" Rarity asked.
"I'm a Lesbian, yes. Trixie is Pansexual," Twilight informed, her wing still around Trixie, though her grasp was a little more firm, more protective.
"Hey! Trixie and I are twins!" Pinkie giggled, though Twilight and Trixie were the only ones who seemed to hear her. However, the next thing said, turned the atmosphere from neutral to a warzone.
"Well, that makes sense," Rarity said, her tone cold and expression unforgiving.
"Excuse me?" Twilight asked, turning to the pale unicorn.
"Well, aren't 'Pansexuals,' okay with dating anypony? No matter the gender or whatever?"
"Yes..." Twilight's eyes narrowed, and Pinkie and Trixie were both staring at Rarity, confused and a bit concerned.
"It just seems a little desperate to me to associate yourself with such a title. It seems like that kind of pony would love anypony that walks if they don't care what gender they are. Unfortunately for them, however, not everypony is that way. Pinkie is living proof of that considering she's single."
Twilight's cheeks turned pink with rage, Trixie's ears went against her head, and tears filled Pinkie's eyes. Twilight stood from her seat and slammed her hoof on the table in front of her, "For your information, I asked her out, not the other way around; and just because you clearly disagree with my choice in dating, does not mean that you can not only insult my marefriend, but the sexuality all together! You also had absolutely no reason to call out Pinkie like that. If she's single, then that is proof that Pansexuals do NOT 'love everypony that walks,' it just means she hasn't found the right pony for her yet! If you have such a problem with that, then you don't have to be here!" The room was completely silent. Rarity stared at Twilight in shock, as did the rest of the ponies and dragon in the room. Nopony was sure what to say or what to do, so Twilight continued speaking, "Today is a special day for Trixie and myself, and we finally got the courage to tell you all. Coming out as a Lesbian and Pansexual and revealing our two-year strong relationship is not easy, and it seems the only mare who can understand that here is Pinkie!"
For a moment, it was silent, before a new voice spoke up, "I understand Twilight..." Looking to see who spoke, the alicorn saw it had been Fluttershy, "Revealing my relationship with Discord was really hard for me as well. I wasn't sure if you guys would accept us because of how different he is from the rest of us. I guess luck was on my side though, as you all did accept us, and were happy for Discord and me," Twilight gave a soft smile to the pegasus, who returned with a smile as well, "For the record, I think you two are a lovely couple, and there's nothing wrong with loving who you want to, no matter what gender."
"Thank you, Fluttershy..." Trixie said, finally gathering enough courage to speak up. Smiling still, Fluttershy stood from her seat and walked over, giving the newly announced couple a hug, before turning to Pinkie and giving her one as well.
"Don't listen to Rarity..." Fluttershy whispered to Pinkie, who nodded with a meek smile as she wiped a few stray tears away.
"Fluttershy are you really being serious right-" Rarity began, before being cut off by Fluttershy, who was now glaring in the unicorn's direction, her entire demeanor changing in a split second.
"-Yes! I am being extremely serious! To be honest, Twilight and Trixie's confession got me thinking, and they've given me the courage to reveal that...well...I'm Bisexual."
It was finally Twilight and Trixie's turn to be surprised, "You're what?" Twilight asked, looking at her friend with genuine surprise.
"It's true, sure I turned out to be with Discord, but I have a little attraction to mares as well. I kept it a secret because I was afraid of reactions like Rarity's and I wouldn't have anypony to help me through it. I thought about coming out when Pinkie did, but I was more Bi-Curious at the time..."
"Hmph...wow Fluttershy, I can't believe this! Does Discord know about it?" Rarity asked, her gaze still cold.
"Yes, actually. He was the first creature to know! Honestly, Rarity! If this all offends you so much, why don't you just leave?!"
"Yes, I think I will," Rarity snapped, before turning on her hooves and storming out of the castle. The room remained kind of quiet for a moment before Pinkie spoke to lighten the mood.
"Well, congratulations, Fluttershy, we're proud of you!" Pinkie said with a giggle as she pulled her friend into a warm hug.
"That was certainly, unexpected," Starlight finally said, "Personally, I only feel attractions to stallions, but I'm not against anything you guys identify with. I am a school counselor, after all, I've been brought problems very similar to these on multiple occasions."
"What do you tell them?" Twilight asked, intrigued.
"Well, when a couple in hiding comes to me, I just tell them that they need to talk it through together to decide what they should do about telling their friends or parents. Usually, I'll step out of the room and allow them to discuss it there without fear of any creature overhearing them. If it's one pony or creature coming to me about sexuality problems, I talk to them about what specifically they're struggling with. If it's coming out, I give them support on their choice and let them know that any true friend will accept them as they are. I forwarn them that parents may have a harder time accepting them, and some creatures will need time to think about it before completely accepting them, and that there will be those who hate and criticize. However, it's vital that they remain true to themselves because you have no reason to hide who you are." Twilight had a huge smile on her face hearing her ex-student speak.
"Wow, Starlight, I'm so proud of you! I'm so glad I chose you to my school's counselor. You clearly have the right, open mind when it comes to all situations, don't you?"
"Well, for the most part, I suppose so," Starlight laughed, blushing a little bit.
"Well, we seem to have a little bit of acceptance going on around here, what about the rest of you? You've been pretty quiet," Twilight said, looking at Rainbow Dash, Applejack, and Spike.
"I'm okay with it. It's all a little surprising and I'll need time to get used to it, but you have my support!" Spike said with a smile as he hugged Twilight's leg. Smiling, the alicorn wrapped her free hoof around the young dragon.
"I'm not against you, but I'll definitely need time to think about it as Starlight said..." Applejack said, "I don't...agree with it, but I don't think anypony should insult you for your choices."
"Thanks, Applejack. That means a lot," Twilight replied.
"I'm with AJ on this one, I have to think about it. Totally uncool how Rarity acted though," Rainbow said, glaring at the door the unicorn stormed out of.
"I'm sure once she thinks about it, she'll realize she was being unreasonable, and she'll come to talk to us. I really don't think she wants to lose all of her friends over something like this," Twilight said, also giving the door a quick glance.
"I hope so!" Pinkie exclaimed, "She acted like a true Canterlot-Born mare! I think spending so much time there with Fancypants has had a bad influence on her!"
"That's possible as well," Twilight replied, "Either way, I'm glad that you guys support our choices at least a little, it means more to us then you'll ever understand."
"We're glad!" Starlight said with a smile.
The girls and Spike all joined in a small group hug, before heading to Sugarcube Corner for a small "Coming Out Party."
That evening, Twilight laid in her bed, staring at the unicorn next to her. Twilight's wings were gently wrapped around her for warmth and her hooves around her for protection. She gave a gentle sigh as she looked at her. Trixie gave a small smile in return, "Everything okay?"
"Yeah, yeah everything's fine. Today was quite the adventure though, don't you think?" Trixie laughed at that.
"Most definitely! I wasn't expecting such a good outcome."
"What were you expecting?"
"I was...expecting everypony to hate us being together, and for them to try to force us to break up because I'm not good enough for you..." Twilight stared in shock at her marefriend for a moment, before giving a small smile and nuzzling her cheek.
"I would never leave you because of something my friends want. I love you because I know the real you. They may only know your ego and over-confidence right now, but the more they choose to hang around you, the more they'll see the side of you that I fell in love with. You showed Starlight your friendly side and even a little of your sensitivity, and now you two are close friends. You showed me your sensitivity, your compassion, and your caring side. Now we've been together for six entire months, and I don't plan on ever leaving you. One day, I want us to get married, and to be together forever." Trixie smiled, and snuggled up to her, laying her head on Twilight's chest.
"I'm glad, considering you gave up immortality for me, I think I can believe you love me." Twilight blushed at that, remembering when she went to Princess Celestia, who was reluctant at first until she explained just how much she loved Trixie, and that she couldn't stand to lose her one day. Trixie had cried a lot that day, and so had Twilight. It had been her one-year anniversary present to Trixie, and she had definitely not been expecting it, "I still can't believe you did that for me."
"Well, you're worth it, to say the least." Twilight giggled.
"Oh really?" Trixie laughed, "I would never have guessed. By the way, when are you gonna tell your friends that?"
"Our friends and I don't know, but as long as you're with me, I don't think I'll have any trouble telling them."
"What about being Asexual?"
"Okay now! Let's not get ahead of ourselves! That is gonna take more than a little strand of courage to announce and you know it. Remember how I was when I told Cadence I was Ace?"
"How could I forget? You cried the whole train ride there and kept trying to teleport out of the train!" Trixie giggled, making Twilight glare at her with a sad expression. Trixie stopped laughing almost immediately and smiled encouragingly, "I laugh because there was nothing for you be worried about! You should know Cadence of all ponies would accept you! She's the Princess of Love! Besides, there's nothing wrong with being Ace, you aren't broken, and you are completely normal! Love without sex exists, just like love with sex exists."
"I know, I know..." Twilight giggled nervously, "I'll tell them about both things soon. I promise. I think I'll let them process all we told them today first though."
"Fair enough," Trixie said with a smile, before looking up at the alicorn next to her and sharing a sweet, gentle kiss with her. Once they parted, Trixie placed her head back on Twilight's chest. The two both yawned in sync and began to close their eyes. However, before letting sleep take over her, Twilight managed to say one last thing.
"You're the best thing that ever happened to me, Trixie Lulamoon, and no matter what happens, I'll love you, even if they don't."
Trixie smiled, as did Twilight, and the two fell asleep together, falling into a blissful sea of dreams.
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Very sweet. Rarity in this fic is such a homophobe.
Yeah... no. This story had potential, but as soon as Rarity became homophobic, you completely ruined the story. No, misunderstanding but accepting after a talk -an onscreen talk- might have worked, but as soon as you completely ruined Rarity -one of the most supportive and kind ponies in the show- any actual potential this story had was sorta overshadowed by that.
Nice idea, but I must agree with other posters about the whole homophobia bit.
9671506
The same would apply no matter who was the homophbic blight on Equestria's existence honestly.
Then Twilight wakes up to thankfully find out it was a nightmare. xD
9671540
Sadly, it's just more pronounced and a lot more unforgivable when it's one of the main characters we've grown to love instead of just say some... straw backgrounder who barely has a character.
Well, the Twixie is what really drew me in, as since Starlight became a thing people really don't post much of it anymore, but then you had to go and pollute it with all this LGBT shit, like damn i don't need to know everyone's sexuality and stuff, i just wanna see Twilight and Trixie telling their friends that they're together.
9671506
I understand it's hard to see Rarity act that way, but one of the characters was gonna be this way when I wrote it. This was for Pride Month, yes, but this was also vent writing for me hinting at what I went through when I came out as a Lesbian. Sorry if you don't like Rarity acting that way, but she acted similar to a girl who was extremely homophobic to me when I came out. That girl reminds me of Rarity so that's who I used.
9671564
Well, I wrote this for Pride Month, so of COURSE, it has LGBT things in it. If the ship it was drew you to the story, you shouldn't have a problem with it considering they're obviously in the LBGT community.
9671571
Does being gay necessarily put you in the BLT community? I always assumed it was a, y'know, community. As in a group of people with a common characteristic coming to together, but not everyone who has that characteristic is with them. That's why when you see the thousands of lesbo stories on this site, most people don't say "Hey goys this is a LGBT story." Cause just cause your gay don't make you BFG.
9671567
Vent writing is for blog posts, nowhere else. And the fact is, if you were going to have a bigot in the story, you might as well have made it some background character. It doesn't work with Rarity.
Mind you, as I said, if you had to have used Rarity, make her misunderstanding at first, then accepting via an onscreen -if you will- talk with her friends.
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Why would I write a story that is vent writing just for a blog post? If I'm gonna vent write, I'm gonna make a story out of it. That's how my mind works. Sorry, you didn't like it, I can't help that. Vent writing can be in many forms, not just blog posts.
I just don't understand any of this crap. Pride month? LGBT? What the hell are these things? I was raised by a family that just respected the choices people made. I really have nothing against gay couples. Honestly I just don't even bring it up. I just think of people as people and live my life as such. Why do people have to make things so difficult when there is no need for it? I mean you identify yourself as? What the hell is that even? Maybe its the time I have since spent on this earth has been longer than most of you has allowed me to really experience quite a few things.
I wont give it a downvote since I didnt read the whole fic but you lost me with the LGBT crap.
I mean no ill towards you author. I have nothing against how a person so chooses to live their life so long as its not something with ill intent or evil. Most people don't care about what you sex life is about because thing's of that nature are almost always kept behind closed doors. And rightly so. PDA's are perfectly fine, but when you move past that, that's when you need to keep it private. Nobody wants to know your sex life. And if someone is bitching about who you are or what you prefer then ignore them. A fire with no fuel to burn quickly burns itself out.
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This kind of reminds me of how everyone is ok all the gay pride parades, but when one person arranges for one straight pride parade in Boston, everyone gets offended.
I'm like, hypocrisy much? It's apparently ok to take pride in being gay, but not ok to take pride in being straight.
9672012
I don't even see why there needs to be any parades for what your sexual preference is.
9672017
I would also prefer that there be no parades.
9671567
I'm not going to deny that happened, but there are 100% better places to vent write than make it part of a story. If Equestria was shown to have that problem, then it would fit in fine.
You dont owe any of these people anything. Let them downvote your story. Their just ignorant that their favorite character is being used in a negative light, to which I say is ignorant in itself.
9671571
You celebrate pride month by having Rarity crap on the LGBT community!? Bull-shit dude.
9672249
Thank you. This made my night. :)
So! Hi there. Name's Kodeake. I don't usually read... well, anything except Twidash, but I stumbled across this and, after reading over the comments and looking at the like/dislike ratio, I became curious. After reading, I felt the need to leave my thoughts. Though perhaps I should a leave a thing here about taking anything I say with a grain of salt; I've written a fic that deals with these issues. Well... I started a fic that was going to, but ended up neglecting it for years. Point is, I've attempted to tackle this version of Equestria, and I know how difficult a task it is, so I may be overly-lenient with the author.
Here are my thoughts;
I felt the handeling of the homophobia issue was hamfisted and clumsy, and though ultimately coming from a good place, the delivery was botched. It is... such a fine balancing act; these are characters that people love and connect with. To portray them in this way, which is totally antithetical to the message of the show, is going to attract hate. But... I cannot say it is totally unwarranted. At the same time, I feel it is not the hate crime many have made it out to be.
If I were to recommend doing anything, it'd be this; we don't need to know the sexuality of everypony present. It felt like you were beating us over the head with it, rather than allowing the characters to merely be who they are, which is the point of the story, is it not? Frankly, I didn't need to know Pinkie was Pan; could you not have had her react negatively to Rarity's comments, and merely implied that she was? I... actually don't have a problem with Fluttershy coming out in a show of support for her friends; that part's fine by me. Taken into account with everything else, though, it add yet another layer onto something that was stacked far to high to begin with.
Subtly is your friend when dealing with these kinds of issues. Although, perhaps a lot of this all comes down to show don't tell. You spent a lot of words telling us all how all the girls were straight and about Fluttershy's relationship and just... exposition that didn't need to be there. This genuinely could have been a good fic had you allowed these things to be revealed organically through the conversation. You didn't need to tell us about Fluttershy's relationship until she mentioned that her dating Discard could be seen as strange.
I felt Rarity was pretty far out of character. And not because you made her homophobic; I did the same. As far as I'm concerned, because the show makes no actual statements on the subject there is no such thing as arguing about this kind of thing going against her character. However, how she handles it is the important part. She is a dignified lady, but when she breaks down, she breaks down. You had her cold and emotionless, which simply doesn't fit her. She blows her problems out of proportion but carries herself with grace and poise right up until her breaking point. And while I confess Rarity is not a character I am intimately familiar with, I like to think I have a solid enough grasp on her.
Yeesh this is getting long. Okay, tl;dr
I felt that, while the execution was clumsy at best, there is nothing inherently wrong with what you tried to do here. You beat us over the head with the LGBT stuff, going over everyone's sexuality and relationships in a boring block of exposition, and Rarity's reaction is out of character for her. Mind, not her views, merely how she handled the situation.
In the end, I can safely say you don't deserve the hate you've received. But then, I can say that about most of the downvote-bombed stories I've read. People are... opinionated. I'm sorry you've had to suffer the worst of it I've seen in a while. I'd like to tell you to just ignore it and keep doing what you do, but... well, I've been there. I know that's easier said than done. It is important to take criticism, though, and I hope to have shed some light on the more visceral reactions you've seen.
9671596
okay what
9671597
I have two questions:
What exactly is you adversion to vent writing? Y'know, besides that "It bad! You bad! Shame!"
And is your hardon for Rarity really so potent that one unflattering portrayal in a fanfic force you bust out this... Lets be kind and call it scathing review of said fanfic?
9672017
9672012
There's a reason for all this. Pride isn't just a 'yay, we're gay' thing. It's meant to commemorate the Stonewall riots and combat anti-LGBT prejudice with a celebration. For many people in the community, it's one of the few times where they can meet people like them in that regard and celebrate themselves. Even companies and organizations that sponsor the events have the purpose of showing an LGBT person which places near them might be friendly in the sense of equal chances for employment and less tolerant of discrimination. Politicians who support protections for LGBT people will also often make an appearance. It's really not about 'oh, I'd fuck a dude/woman/both/none/etc.' kind of thing, because if any LGBT movements had ever just been about sex, there really wouldn't have been as much heart behind the movements. It's both for practical reasons, supporting the community, celebrating progress, and y'know 'love is love'. Some of the subcultures present at pride are also very LGBT centered, like that of drag queens, even if they aren't inherently so. Pride parades aren't perfect as they are, but for some people that's all they have. LGBT people in other countries don't usually get the chance to celebrate either. (Like in Russia. Shit's pretty bad there, where even just showing the rainbow flag is illegal and gay pogroms still occur.)
Straight pride parades being scorned aren't hypocrisy, either. The straight pride parades weren't someone honestly wanting a way to celebrate that they're straight, it was a passive-aggressive way to insult LGBT pride and just be a dick. There also was already a few variations of the straight flag, including the ally ones. Pride is a way to spit in the face of discrimination (and for some people, maybe just food and a parade in their city) without having it being somber and forceful. Transgender people like myself, for example, are still murdered just for being trans. In some places, I could be fired or evicted for being trans too. Not everyone has to live with this kind of knowledge or reality, and pride is a break from that, but can also bring awareness to people who can and want to help. It's also one step in an effort to unravel myths about LGBT people, like that of it being just a preference too. I'm not saying you're wrong for using that word, it's just that there's no real option to be LGB, T, or other things in the community, just like there wasn't any choice for someone to be straight. I would've chosen to be a cisgender person in a heartbeat if I knew what kind of a life I was going to live for being transgender. In the present day, no one is persecuted (except, y'know, by tumblr) for being heterosexual. That doesn't mean there's no problems for heterosexual people, or that there haven't been historically, it's just that they don't stem from you being heterosexual.
9671596
The story description makes it clear that it was going to be about more realistic struggles with sexual orientation with this line: What happens when they finally decide to tell their friends about their relationship and sexualities? You also apparently missed that there was an author's note in the front of the story a few hundred words long detailing the contents and reasons for those contents further. That's on you. Now, I do agree that the author didn't do the best job introducing the sexual orientations of the mane six and discussing their relationships all that well. Many improvements could be made on this piece, but it's not the point where I would personally downvote it. But that's just me, and you can vote on it how you want. It's another thing to be a bit of an asshat by going on a story with non-offensive content you don't like (keyword there is non-offensive) and advertises that it has this content and then be like 'well I hated X story for being obviously about X when it said it did include X and X is stupid'. LGBT people often write about LGBT topics beyond just Y character being Y and getting together with Z who is Z. If you mind the descriptions, groups, and such you don't have to find the content you don't want. I could understand if the author never alluded to it at all and just threw it in.
9671780
You might be on the wrong site, then? Or pursing the wrong medium in general, considering fanfiction in general has a majority of same sex content for most fandoms.
9672453 makes a very good point here. Close friends can often turn out to be cruel in these kinds of situations and expresses prejudices that no one would've thought they held before because they had no reason to show it. But I have to second that you wrote Rarity wrong with how she shows it. Rarity is dramatics, theatrics, and emotions! She has a fainting couch at hoof! Fluttery dramatic eyelashes and fainting spells! If anypony is going to have an emotional reaction, she would. Also there's no reason to think that country pony culture has the homophobic parallel to human ones when Twilight thinks about AJ. Thinking that AJ could be because she just never talks about same-sex relationships, never gives her thoughts on the matters, and loves traditional family arrangements could make Twi suspect that could be an indication, but it's no way to know for sure, y'know?
Another thing that you could've considered to make your story more tasteful and reasonably in character was to have Rarity be casually homophobic instead of massively so. This guide doesn't contain the best examples, but having her speak in a way that highlights casual/soft homophobia could work better. She might ask who the 'stallion' and 'mare' in the relationship is if they're both mares, treat Twilight's relationship as different from a m/f for unrealistic reason, or show that she has expectations like that and maybe ask some uncomfortable questions. She could make cliche assumptions that fall under casual homophobia if expressed with a certain intent, like assuming all lesbian relationships have a butch/femme dynamic or that Twilight should've at least 'tried' to date a stallion first. She could ask Twilight about what became of a stallion crush, one that was mistaken affection from Twilight's perspective but Rarity took as a sign of straightness. She might ask if Twilight ever thought of any of her friends 'that way' in a meaner, underhanded kind of way.
9672453
To be honest, I can totally agree with what you've said. I wrote this in less than a day and I only gave it a brief read-over. I'll probably go back and re-write it eventually, but for now, I'm just kind of watching the comment section. It doesn't really bother me that people are hating like they are. I wrote it specifically for a select few people, all of which loved it, and that's all that matters to me. I really just wanted to get my thoughts out in a quick story that could help me sort out what I was feeling at the time, it's not my problem if someone hates it.
9672747
nope ya know what fuck it was going to post a comment cant be fucking assed to do it now not worth the hassle.
9672747
Oh not at all I dont mind gays and lesbian shippings at all nor do I mind them in real life. I just dont like real world crap to break my immersion such as religion or politics in a pony story or identity politics. I read these stories for the innocence and fluff they so often have to just turn off the shitty world we live in atm and seeing the LGBT tag just makes me assume its going to be one of "those" stories
9672825
Yeah, that makes much more sense. Though, I personally like seeing people put care into ponifying religious pantheons for the world and some political situations, there's stories when there's nothing very clever in them at all to execute that. This story is one of the ones that didn't deliver the real-world connections very well.
I have zero idea what 'identity politics' is even supposed to refer to any more because of how it has been used, though.
Though, if you don't want to see the kind of themes in this story, I'd just check to see if anything is in the LGBT, Trans, and Homophobia theme group. Anything in those groups generally has some discussion like this.
9672808
I'm not sure why you feel the need to respond with a comment saying you were going to post a comment, and that posting a comment wasn't worth it, but you still did.
Isn't it a bit self-defeating?
9672870
meh not really i did post it but then i replaced it because i couldnt be bothered dealing the hassle of uppity LGBT community members looking to start shit from it (why did i not just delete it and leave it at that, simple i hate seeing delete comments i always wonder what was said)
9672879
If you wanted to find an uppity LGBT person, you've got the wrong guy. I'm not sure what gripe you have with someone explaining the basic facts behind why pride parades happen in response to people actually talking about the parades, and also about the numerous flaws in the story's execution.
So, I guess you're taking issue with someone, for the most part, agreeing with the general discussion on the comment section.
9672747
The world we live in today... Sometimes I wish could just turn back the clock and not deal with all this nonsense.
9672757
Next leave the political bullshit out of your story into pony land. You will be much better off.
9673092
I'm really not sure what part of the reply you're aiming your comment at, with the grand stuff about "nonsense" and "turning back time". The part where a story about cartoon horses had content you didn't like, but read it anyway even though it said that was there? The part where the flaws of the story are discussed and it's suggested the execution be improved? How the straight pride stuff was organized because someone wanted an adult version of playground taunting? Pride parades existing because of history?
9672495
I see nothing wrong with that sentence.