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Set roughly two years after Luna's return and redemption, Spike has begun to question whether or not non-ponies have protected rights in Equestria. When he raises his concerns to Twilight and Starlight, the Princess is offended by criticism of Celestia's system, while Starlight begins dreaming about her old ideals once more. Twilight sends their concerns to Celestia and Luna, but they soon develop very different views on how to handle the situation.

The entire time, the non-pony nations are increasingly agitated by the overwhelming influence of the pony city-states and the need for them to forsake their old cultures in favor of becoming more "civilized". An ancient prophecy foretells that a hero will emerge to unite the non-ponies and strike at their oppressors when they are at their weakest.

As the battle lines are drawn and diplomacy fails, two things are certain. The first is that no land or nation will be unscathed by the conflict; the other is that whomever succeeds will set the political precedent for the next thousand years...


Title is a reference to the MGS: Peace Walker song. This will eventually evolve into a Lunar Republic v. Solar Empire fic, but their creation will probably only be the end of this fic and the setup for a sequel. This is an AU set roughly two years after the beginning of the TV series, where the point of divergence is the Season 7 finale. There are some references to Equestria Girls and the comics, but since I haven't read very much of the comics, I'm mostly cherry-picking. There will also be a plot involving Spike as a sort of "chosen one" and the introduction of a third-party competitor in the form of an alliance between non-ponies. I'm not sure why I did it, but I thought it would be good to throw in something extra instead of just NLR fighting SE, since there's already a dozen of those out there.

Below are my three major warnings.

WARNING: This fic is political, though I'm trying to present each side as both an aggressor and as a defender rather than pick obvious "heroes" and "villains". That said, topics such as race form the initial crux of the fic, though in this context race means dragon/griffon/pony, etc., and the races don't have real-world racial equivalents, so please don't get worked up about it. Feel free to root for or condemn any side you want; I'll withhold my personal bias, since the point of MLP is building bridges, not walls.

WARNING 2: There will be fighting and possibly death. One of my mistakes with my last NLR/SE fics was the over-the-top dramatic flare of the war, and the introduction of modern weapons. These battles will be fought using technologies shown in the show: spears, arrows, magic, and Pinkie's Party Cannon (when she wills it).

WARNING 3: Getting sick of these, yet? There will be some shipping, and readers might not like the pairings. Some of them will only make sense in the context of this fic, with absolutely no precedent in the TV or comic series. I will do my best to keep the romance to a minimum so it doesn't distract from the overall plot.

Also, just a request for readers: if you dislike the fic, can you leave a review stating why you disliked it and if there's a way to improve it? If you're disliking it because you don't like the content - i.e., NLR vs. SE, then why are you reading this in the first place?

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garfan #1 · February 13th · · · 6 ·

if you think the point of the show is building bridges, and you're going to without political bias from this story, what even is the point of it?

Problem is, if you strike down the ponies nations, you doom the planet. The non pony nations ever think of that?

This is amazing and funny pls make more

A good start I'm liked it. I hope it's does will

8730983
The point is it's a fanfiction? Besides, the endgame I have in mind is supposed to be in the spirit of the show. I mean, MLP is also known for its conflicts, as much as its conflict resolution.

8730987
I'm operating under the assumption that enough time has passed the non-ponies consider most of the doomsday rumors to be overblown. Additionally, let's assume they haven't really thought that far ahead and figure that if/when they take the pony lands, they'll just occupy them. None of them intend extermination; in fact, no one in the plot has even considered war yet (aside from the camels). We'll see where the plot goes.

8731248
I'm glad you're enjoying it.

8731361
Me too. The like-dislike ratio is pretty bad, but I was expecting something like that.

“Tia,” Luna smirked, “if no pony has abused the oversight in a thousand years of your rule, then I’m sure one more week won’t hurt.”

And you jinxed it Luna. Murphy, do your thing. Whatever happens is Lunas fault.

8731605
If it wasn't for that law, we'd never have good stories :P

So Overlord of Light is that' what it means?

Man, the tension this story has so far. You've got me hooked my friend. I can't wait to see what comes from this story.

8732528
That's a very good idea. I was fiddling with "individuals", but that was way too long; beings is much better. Thank you :twilightsmile:

8732549
Well, that's one translation. I was going more for the "King of kings" or "Overlord of kings" angle; but the cool thing about those kinds of languages is the multiple meanings aren't necesarily exclusive.

8732607
Glad to hear it; I hope I don't disappoint :twilightsheepish:

8732765
Well, considering Captain America: Civil War is one of my fav. movies of all time, I think you're good. My fav. types of films that involve ideological debates are when you can see the validity in both sides. Forcing the viewer to act out the argument the characters are having on screen internally, thereby making them more invested. I've yet to see a Solar Empire v. Lunar Republic fic. that's done this, so good job there. I think your dialogue is really great, perhaps if you beef up the descriptions the tiniest bit and be sure to proofread so things make sense, you could have a VERY excellent story on your hands.

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Yeah, rereading some of the text, I realized I forgot to clean up a few things here and there. My best time to write also happens to be when I'm exhausted, and I seem to lack the proofreader talent. I'll probably go back and do some editing to correct these mistakes after I'm finished with the next chapter and before I upload it.

8732762
I saw the king translation but I thought it was redundant and I though light mean't showing them the light or ruling over Luna and Celestia but I like the Overlord of Overlords one.

8733119
It's partly a reference to several historical titles. The Persian Emperors were called Shahanshah which means "king of kings" (since shah is roughly equivalent to king). Genghis Khan was known as the Khagan or "khan of khans" (or chief of chiefs). And, of course, one of the Biblical titles for Jesus is "King of Kings". I like the messianic and conqueror undertones such a title would suggest.

I'm shipping Luna and Big Mac now

8735750
I'll keep that in mind :raritywink:

Hmmmmm, interesting. Will Starlight join the NLR, or will be getting a third side in this upcoming war?? The uncertainty is both frustrating, yet so compelling. And maybe this is because I’m learning about it in school, but Spike’s “committee” idea sounds remarkably similar to the NAACP. Just calling it How I see it.

8736457
Huh, I actually didn't think of the parallel, but yeah, I guess it would be the MLP equivalent, lol. Good catch.

8736513
If Spike’s new group ends up calling itself the NAANP (National Association for the Advancement Of Non-Ponies), I’ll lose it.

8736540
*Tapping chin*
HMMMMMMM....

Wash #30 · February 15th · · · 2 ·

“Not that silly republic idea of yours, again?” her older sister arched an eyebrow.

All hail the New Lunar Republic

Discord's brothers are the Chaos gods from Warhammer aren't they and if so which universe fantasy or 40k

8748937
Lol, good catch. I like to pretend the realm the Dark Gods live in is actually tied to both the fantasy and 40k universes simultaneously, like a sandwich where Chaos is the meat in the middle. Seems plausible that the denizens of the Warp could interact with both realms at the same "time" since time and space have no meaning there. Just my personal fanon, though.

“I had to work my flank off for years to become a Wonderbolt, and that’s just the beginning. Still, I earned it,” Rainbow explained, “For me to succeed, a dozen other pegasi had to lose. It’s not fair, but it ensures the Wonderbolts are the best, and it rewards those who put the effort in. Rarity agrees, but obviously he ideas are about fashion and business.”

I have numerous things to say about this that any of the mane 5 can point out; 1. No, Dash, you didn't work hard. You napped or goofed off through a large majority of seasons 1 and 2 Twilight even mentions this two lines down. 2. Season 1 you literally saved the Wonderbolts because they were incompetent in saving your friend who was falling. You got in because of nepotism. 3. Bulk Biceps got in the Wonderbolts... Bulk Biceps. The pegasus who could barley hover off the ground. I highly doubt he's one of "the best". and 4. The Wonderbolts attempted cheating and under handed tactics because they wanted to win gold medals in a sports event. Not only is that extremely petty and unprofessional, it also shows that they most likely didn't bother working to get their positions.

Alright, that's my rant. Good story, I can see everything turning out fine if they sit and talk things out more often.

8749312
Rainbow's argument is based on conversations I've had with several friends. Coincidentally, their arguments had the same holes, lol.

8749268
Cool and I kind of want a story of them going to equestria and discord being the sane and humane one of the 5 making sure they don't fuck something up(slaanesh literally)

8749312
I also like to say the wonderbolts are based on the blue angels which is meant to just fly fancy and show off not fight or anything else

8749701
Maybe someday. Actually, you could try writing it; I'd give it a read.

8749911
I'm not a good writer I could never do this story justice

8750143
I'd do it, but last time I tried to blend cartoons aimed at kids with the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, it didn't end well :P

In the show, Luna's old-fashioned, jealous, and patronizing. The comics add 'carelessly violent'. If she was supporting democracy it'd be because she was punishing herself. :facehoof: Or maybe because she was sick of ruling and wanted to be a wealthy layabout. She would never be in charge of anything in a democracy and she knows it.

8750399
(Spoiler) True. I'll try and add some dialogue when they get to Canterlot that should help explain Luna's desire for democracy. And her limited understanding of it.

It was at this point I realized most races in the Warcraft Hoard were non-human like
Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, and Goblins stick out most. Forsaken maybe... only human like Hoard race I can think of are the Blood Elves.
huh... never noticed that

I was honestly thinking that Celestia was going to join the anti-pony group, seeing how much she disagreed with/faught against the ponies of the "friendship" group

8758066
She hasn't heard of it yet, lol. I am a little excited to write her response to the news, though; it's gonna be fun :pinkiehappy:

8757966
Technically the Forsaken were human. Once. If there was an undead pony faction in MLP, I would have them join the non-ponies as a blatant reference to Warcraft (as well as the fact the ponies probably wouldn't get along too well with dead members of their species).

Hey, I'm alright with a bit of ship teases now and again. FLuttercord and Spikelight are nice enough pairings, and Trixlight is interesting to possibly see happen. Honestly, I'm just waiting until this all goes to tartarus and we've got the SE vs. NLR.

8758329
hasn't heard of it? Weren't they basically shouting it before/as they were leaning the "friendship" group?
From Chapter 4:

“Come on, Thorax!” Ember snapped as she moved to join a furious Prince Rutherford in his departure, “We don’t need to stand for this! You two, too! These pony jerks don’t deserve our friendship. We’ll just form our own Summit!”

8758765
I meant hasn't heard in the sense that she didn't think they'd really do it - or that they'd form a military pact. I misspoke when I said that, whoops.

war ha.
I like this story.

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