Episode Discussion » S7E9 - Honest Apple · 9:56am May 14th, 2017
Synopsis
When Rarity asks Applejack to be a judge in a fashion show, Applejack learns that an opinion, however honest, can still be hurtful.
Synopsis
When Rarity asks Applejack to be a judge in a fashion show, Applejack learns that an opinion, however honest, can still be hurtful.
I'm not looking forward to this. I can remember a Bobby's World that had the other idiot characters act like it was World War Three because the four year old boy thought 'tact' was the past tense of the verb 'to tack' and am not looking forward to Applejack being hit over the head with a moral lesson most of the audience already know. They might as well have had Rainbow Dash water ski over a damned shark.
Has it aired already? - This is a message that needed to be sent to Rex Reed based on his quote about Melissa McCarthy.
4532067 I...really don't see the similarity here
This moral lesson has been a long time coming. I've been wondering when they'd cover this since season two.
4532067 It wasn't fair that more users despised you for your opinion. After this episode comes and goes, it won't change anything on this site, that's for sure. Honest opinions online still continue to bear nasty results to this day.
i.ytimg.com/vi/zxI2pvSZCno/hqdefault.jpg
They had a Franklin episode with practically the exact same lesson, "Franklin's Homemade Cookies". Things worked out in that episode. Sounds to me like no one's expecting anything to work out here.
Not looking forward to this episode, not because of the blatantly obvious moral, but because I know there'll be some shoehorned Rarijack moments, and their shippers will be out in full force.
4532067 does this count?encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmgvuYofGLpw7XwU9Y-3xyRseYgoYZDWo6KBXruXfvnxfsj_Sc
4532151 >no water skis
>no Rainbow Dash
I’d say we’re in the clear, boys.
4532130 velvetchainsaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Attendee2.0.jpg
One episode having a early air date the day after another episode does the exact same thing? Hmm, something's fishy here...
4532174
Blame Canada.
4532190
Always blame Canada.
4532192 Blame canada, you say?
4532190 4532192
Freakin' Canadians and their early air dates. This is getting ridiculous.
YOU'RE TOO NICE FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!
[youtube=bOR38552MJA]
Well, that was a fun episode.
It's always nice seeing new ponies introduced and old favorites coming back... but I feel like literally nothing interesting happened happened.
Not watching until it airs in the States. But I sincerely hope the writers realize that there's nothing wrong about a negative opinion as long as it's kind and constructive. If not, then this episode's doomed.
Uhm... I'm not really feeling this one. Rarity and AJ felt like they had their common sense and tact tuned too far down to manufacture the conflict.
But on another note... Rarity's a closet rock guitarist. Commence the fanfics!
I liked the basic moral of this, the new ponies, and Rarity shredding on a guitar. The setup for the conflict makes no sense in universe and obvious exists purely for that sake of the episode having conflict. That aside, not bad. Liked it a bit more than yesterday's Canadian episode since it didn't rely on cringe comedy.
Not enough Rarijacking.
No 2p Rarity vs Maud Guitar Heroing.
Opinions are buttholes.
Strawberry is best pony and must now be shipped with Applejack to one-up each other on getting the other to love their favorite fruits by munching on each other's fruity offerings.
Goth pony is my waifu of the week.
Dat construction pony got some nice kharma plus got one-upped by AJ's super strength. Woot.
Ending just creating a whole new generation of safe-space, self-entitled, snowflakers who'll now proceed to demand all buttholes that don't fit their own be censored to protect their feelings because everyone wins at life unless your butthole doesn't fit their tastes.
Now let the shipping wars begin a new.
Forgot to mention Stalker Spike confirmed. Spike totally not a creeper.
The ending left me with the distinct impression that Rarity chose AJ BECAUSE she'd be unable to decide after she got softened up. If so, Miss Fabulous pulled off a Xanatos Gambit.
Congratulations, Spike - you're now the show's official Peeping Tom. Rarity plush no longer enough to satisfy him.
What was that guitar moment? That was so unnecessary. Like that was jarringly unnecessary.
az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/10/23/636128581578683509-738293217_Facts%20bruh.jpg
I find the comparison made in this episode unfair.
Applejack calls something ridiculous, and otherwise gives her honest opinion from a utilitarian standpoint, but is then later equated to that Strawberry lass actually insulting apples in front of Applejack. Had it simply been "I don't like apples", that woulda been the end of it, and she would've been on the same page as AJ, but she went beyond that... Could've at least tried to make it on the same level.
4532322 @Them reds.
This wasn't a good episode for me. Applejack came off as way too harsh and tactless. It was cool how Rarity shredded on that guitar though. And it was nice to see Photo Finish and Hoity Toity again.
4532412 when you make a statement in a realm of ignorance though, is another story.
applejaack did just that. a statement in the realm of ignorance. she does not undesrtand fashion or its point. she grew to respect it, yes, and learn more by the end, but she still does not understand it. but she learned about it.
of course in equestria it can be said that art is more alive there than our world. her points would be on the spot in our world XD. here though is about the expressive aspects of fashion. that is honestly a major emphasis that kinda sets the whole fashion girl girl stuff in the show apart. while aesthetics are emphasized, rarity is all about expressing the beauty of an individual, what makes them themselves, rather than to follow the crowd.
Looks like Maud isn't the only one who can shred on guitar like nopony else.
We need a riff-off like the one in Scott Pilgrim.
I can't seem to find this episode anywhere on Youtube. Weird. I guess I'll just have to wait until it airs in the US.
Here's my 'honest' review of the episode: I thought it was good. A moral we can all relate to, and great use of characters we haven't seen for a while along with the new additions.
I was a tad confused at the ending, though: Why is Rarity making out it's all AJ's fault when she was only being what she was hired to do (be truthful) and had already confessed to a naivety of the fashion world above the practical?
The fact she couldn't decide which contestant to declare the winner at the end adds weight to that criticism... what's the point in organising a competition when everypony ends up with a participation award? It might make all the entries feel better, but it hardly inspires much enthusiasm when the big show ends in a dead heat.
Children need to learn at some point, believe it or not, that there are always winners and losers in life. When I was younger I was forced to take part in a game of musical chairs, where none of the chairs were taken away between rounds so as to not hurt any kid's feelings. We might have all gone home with a prize, but my guess is we all felt bored and unfulfilled after twenty wasted minutes, not enthused.
Anyway, just thought I'd share that all with ya.
4532463
I actually haven't seen the episode yet. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen any of season 7. I guess I'm waiting for it to finish so I can binge watch.
4532510 We have seen that lesson many times before already. Way back in season 1 twilight sparkle won sixth place in that running of the leaves. The cmc did not win that talent show. Also the brotherhood social....... yeah XD.
Here they decided it was just a tie overall. And considering rarity's primary motivation was to introduce these ponies to the fashion world to begin with, it makes sense.
4532504 Youtube is like, literally, the worst. Like, pbtpbtpbt, bleh, blah, I can't EVEN!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5m8ug8
4532533 "Hey there, I want to apply for your job as head designer!"
"Great! What are your qualifications?"
"I finished first place alongside two others in a contest run by the famous fashionista Rarity!"
"Brilliant! So how many entrants were there?"
"Hmm... t-three..."
"Next."
I haven't seen episode 9 yet, but judging by the comments here, I don't expect to enjoy it much.
Everybody knows something--but nobody knows everything. It would be as foolish to demand an opinion on clothing fashion from Applejack as it would be to demand an opinion from Rarity on which variety of apple tree to plant, to have fruit ready for a highly competitive market several years in the future.
(Different varieties of apples go in and out of fashion too, and there are thousands of varieties.)
4532610 My point is that Applejack judged the outfits at the end not on their appearance, but on the amount of effort expended in their manufacture. As she repeatedly stressed throughout the episode, she's very ill-suited to judging fashion, which makes her deciding that everything should end in a tie a bit galling to the competitors, due to her obvious inexperience in the area.
4532197
That and you forget that Dan proves they are all half bears. Oh ... and what 4532215 said as well.
4532661 Meh. I was just linking it to one of my previous experiences of feeling unsatisfied after a contest. I know I would have unimpressed if I'd put a lot of hard graft into a project, only for it to be declared 'first place' with all of the other competitors. The situation with Aj would only add to my irritation.
Anyway, everypony seemed happy enough at the end... so who am I to complain?
Do you think Applejack's behavior in this episode might result in an accusation fic of some sort?
4532707
Will you give it a break already?
Accusation fics are 99% terrible anyway.
Love the Rarity fashion episodes. Just something about them that makes sense.
4532751 Oh sorry.
4532412 There's a difference between opinion and fact...
4532707
It shouldn't because accusation fics are awful. I've yet to see one that is anything more than just the author bitching about something while using another character as their mouthpiece.
4532890 So those accusation fics are all because of someone's complaining, whining and moaning, huh?
4532536
Thank you for the link! And now that I've watched the episode I actually get your comment.
I feel like Lily Lace is just about every girl in the later part of Generation Z (basically anyone born after 2000). My apologies to any of you Gen Z-ers that aren't like that, but I feel like that's essentially how you've been portrayed by what I've seen in my States-ly travels, and that honestly (heh) bugs the heck out of me. Great nod to the Princess Bride that AJ pulled with Lily, though. Inigo would be proud.
In terms of the episode itself (and I guess now the season as a whole), I feel like the writers are jumping back down to the show's original demographic with most of these episodes. I think it's been bumped down to essentially just learning a lesson by the end of the episodes with not much other depth to them aside from maybe learning a tiny bit more about another character. The season beginning without a big bang (though it did give us some insight to some things, I guess) should've been a clue. I feel like it's basically down to the style of season 1 sans the letters at the end, without Lauren's better instincts. It seems that the writers are finally done catering to the older crowd and have just said, "Wasn't this show supposed to be for a younger age group? We should stick to that." Now people writing fics with newer material are probably only going to be able to use what little they're being given, and that would kinda suck for them.
But hey, I could be totally wrong here, and if that's the case, I would be thrilled.
Inky Rose is so my spirit animal.