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“What about Will?” Susan asked nervously, looking over to Sunset who had a deer caught in the headlights expression. She wasn’t sure what to tell the man as she didn’t want to upset Sunset, or break her confidence and trust.
“I have to tell you something that I believe Will was involved in this along with Cornelia and my daughter.” Tom sighed, giving a questioning look to Susan while flicking his eyes towards Sunset with the same look. “I’m not sure how much of my suspicions are true, but I have a strong feeling they are.”
“Don’t worry, Sunset knows everything.” Susan said, “A lot more than me actually.”
“So you both know about magic?” Tom asked, earning a nervous giggle from Sunset.
“What’s so funny?” Tom asked, turning his attention to the teen.
“I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to. I think with everything happening, it’s finally catching up. To ask if I know about magic though is like asking if a fish knows about water.” Sunset giggled again, trying to regain control of herself.
“I have a feeling I shouldn’t ask.” Tom groaned. “I guess I’ll just come out and say it, I think the girls got involved with this magic police force called the guardians and Will might be trapped in another world, or…”
“Dead?” Susan asked, letting out a long drawn out sigh. Just what was she supposed to say? Her friend deserved to know the truth, and while they weren’t as close as she was with Velvet’s family, he was the only other parent other than Hay Lin that kept in touch with her often.
“I hate to even suggest it, but if what I suspect is true, then it’s a very good possibility. My aunt died for the leaders of these guardians for no real reason.” Tom explained.
“Will’s gone and she isn’t coming back.” Sunset sighed, earning a shocked look from Tom and supportive glances from the other two women in the room.
“Are you from one of those other worlds?” Tom asked, a little hesitant as he was unsure if he was ready to meet beings from an actual other planet.
“I spent half of my life on another world after I guess was a wish I made in a past life that sent me back in time with a new body.” Sunset sighed, avoiding the look in his eyes. “I was originally born as Wilhelmina Vandom.”
“You’re Will?” Tom asked, taking a step towards her. “How? Why do you look so different?”
“I guess defeating Phobos and Cedric impressed the spirits enough to grant me a wish, I just wish they would talk to me now.” Sunset sighed, “It’s a long story.”
“But you really are Will?” Tom asked, Sunset hesitantly nodding, getting the man to hug her tight. “I was so worried about you, I felt like a failure when we couldn’t find you.”
“I’m so sorry, Tom. I should have told you, I just didn’t know you knew anything about magic.” Susan sighed, putting a hand on his shoulder as he stepped back from Sunset and wiped at his eyes.
“I understand, I’m just happy to know little Will is okay.” Tom said with a watery smile. “Anna will be thrilled, if it’s okay to tell her I guess.”
“Anna knows about magic?” Susan asked, a little shocked that yet another person knew about magic. Was she the last person to learn about this stuff and what her daughter once did?
“Yeah, but we never expected the girls to get involved with it. Especially at that age.” Tom grumped, crossing his arms.
“We didn’t exactly ask for it.” Cornelia sighed, “We didn’t really deserve the powers the way we acted when things got out of hand.”
“What do you mean?” Susan asked.
“It’s okay, Cornelia, it’s in the past so don’t worry about it.” Sunset said, moving to put a hand on the blonde’s shoulder who was fighting tears.
“Phobos kidnapped Elyon and I freaked out and blamed it on Will. The last time I saw her I said some horrible things that I would do anything to go back in time to take back.” Cornelia said, shaking a little as she fought from breaking down and crying. “It was my fault what happened to Will!”
“No it wasn’t, Cornelia.” Sunset consoled the girl, pulling the blonde into a full hug and rubbing circles in the girl’s back. “You can blame Phobos, or you can blame the people in charge of Kandrakar, but it wasn’t fair to expect a bunch of preteen girls to run around fighting monsters and sealing portals.”
“She’s right honey.” Susan said as she joined in on the hug, bringing both girls into her arms. “What was expected of you girls was unfair.”
“I guess I should get going then. But I do want updates on what we talked about earlier.” Tom said, giving a sad smile to the three women.
“Thanks, Tom. I’ll let you know.” Susan assured him.
“Good, because I will be helping with whatever you need. I intend to make sure all the girls are safe.” Tom said, nodding at them. “I hope you ladies have a good night, and a Merry Christmas.”
“You too, Tom.” Susan said.
“Thanks, Mr. Lair, you too.” Cornelia managed to get out between hiccups.
“You too. And tell Irma Merry Christmas from us.” Sunset said.
Tom wasn’t really sure what to think about what he learned, and he really wanted to find out more. It was Christmas Eve though and he could see that the girls were in pain and he didn’t want to add to it by dragging even more painful memories up. He could find out more later, but he did intend to do everything he could to help the three of them. Right now though, he had a daughter to grill.
The drive home didn’t take too long, which he was thankful for as his nerves were becoming rather frayed. He was happy that Will was back, though he was dying to know the whole story, but she was back which meant his wife and him could relax a little more and be relieved that she was safe. They both loved Will dearly as the girl had spent so many nights with them before disappearing during her short tenure in Heatherfield.
Parking the car and heading inside he found Chris playing video games in the living room, the boy not realizing he was there as he was too focused on his game. Shaking his head in slight amusement while wondering what would happen if it was an intruder instead, Tom headed into the kitchen where Irma and Anna were enjoying some sugar cookies and milk. He had to smile at the scene as Irma never got along with Anna until Will disappeared, then his daughter one day came crying to his wife saying how sorry she was for treating her badly. Irma had said she wanted a better relationship with her stepmother and the two had quickly become closer.
“Hey ladies.” Tom greeted them, leaning over to kiss his wife on the cheek and grab a cookie from the plate.
“Hi honey.” Anna relied, patting his cheek before he straightened up.
“Hi daddy, what did you want to talk about?” Irma asked nervously.
“There are so many things, honey. First, why didn’t you call me and tell me about what happened with Cornelia?” Tom asked, taking a seat next to Irma and giving her a stern, yet loving look.
“W-what do you mean?” Irma asked, looking down at the table. Tom reached over and gently placed a finger under her chin and tipped it up so they could look each other in the eyes.
“Sweetie, please don’t lie about anything. I already know it all from what Elizabeth did to Cornelia, to the whole guardian thing.” Tom sighed, seeing the tears start to well up in the girl’s eyes.
“Wait, that group you said your aunt was a member of?” Anna asked, worry entering her voice.
“Yeah, and apparently the idiots in charge dumped the responsibility onto five girls who were barely into their teens.” Tom growled out.
“What happened to Cornelia?” Anna asked.
“Her mom caught us hanging out with Sunset and Twilight today.” Irma said, licking her lips as she felt them dry all of a sudden. Her mouth felt so dry as well as she tried to figure out what to say. She was nervous of what her parents were going to say or think. “She…she beat up Cornelia.”
“I’m calling child services!” Anna snarled as she went to get up, stopped by Tom’s hand on her arm as he shook his head.
“It’s taken care of for now, honey.” Tom sighed, “I guess I understand why you kept it secret that you were a guardian, though I can’t help feeling a little hurt that you didn’t feel you could come to us. Or even to me.”
“I’m sorry dad, we were so excited at first. Or at least some of us were until the reality of it came crashing down. Some of us got scared, really scared, but we didn’t know what to do. As far as we knew magic wasn’t real, and all of a sudden we had it and yet we couldn’t tell our parents because of our supposed duty. I’m sorry dad, I’m sure you wouldn’t be happy when I was running out of the house and saying that I was going to save the world.” Irma explained softly.
“Irma, you need to understand something very important. I love you. You are my daughter, and I am very proud of the young woman you are becoming. I will be here for you for anything, please don’t ever hide something this important from me again, Okay?” Tom said, reaching out to put his hand over his daughter’s.
“Okay daddy.” Irma said, smiling a little realizing she had been a little foolish worrying about if her father would accept the magical side of her.
“Now, about Will.” Tom said, giving both his daughter and wife an encouraging smile. “I don’t know the whole story yet, I thought it best to leave Susan and the girls to deal with everything that has happened today. I know that somehow she got a wish and somehow became Sunset.”
“That girl you met at the mall?” Anna asked, a little shocked. “The one Susan took in?”
“Yeah, Will found her way back home.” Tom replied.
“Oh, thank god!” Anna choked out, covering her mouth as her eyes watered a little. She cared a lot for the somewhat shy spitfire that wormed her way into their hearts in such a short time.
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Well, mlp comics show some alternative universes (Mirror could be changed between different worlds before Starswirl made some speech about "not damaging balance of other worlds" (If you ask me , he probably had issue with Celestia and Luna using that mirror for adventures and blocking it from his personal use of throwing dangerous stuff into other worlds(And who is breaking balance between those three?
), and so he told them a white lie that Celestia later repeated to Twilight in first EQG movie)).
In one such world Sombra was good while Celestia and Luna were eeeeevvvvvuuuul (and had terrible designs in my opinion, too many spikes
) so a universe with nega-cadance is not out of question.
As for not exploring powers fully, meh it happens. It's not like there are no precedences in other media or even in mythology, of unexplored powers or godly domains (Case and point Hera and Artemis, first is the goddess of marriage that stucks to Zeus no matter how many times he breaks his vows (and later attacking children but that is another issue) and so making a mockery out of the entire concept of marriage. The second one is among other domains patron of childbirth ... while being a femi-nazi with vows of chastity so how exactly she can have access to that domain while not embracing it ?
)
Wouldn't The Tree of Harmony be a better candidate for the Heart of Equestria
? Considering it is sentient(If somewhat alien on a level of sleeping old one in its behavior/manifestation) and also there is fact that it might predate Discord.
I agree that the origin of the tree that is in the cartoon is not ... satisfying, so at least I support it with comic canon to create another personal headcanon:
According to comics there is more than one tree of harmony beyond the borders of Equestria, five in particular that are named as trees of :
-History(Located in zebra homeland)
-Family(Located deep underground in Diamond Dog territory)
-Purpose(Located in Abbysynia capital (that cat from the movie was Abyssinian))
-Love(Located in mountainous Ornithia , origin place of those parrot sky pirates from the same movie)
-Patriotism (That one was in villains territory, Cunabula, an island nation)
It changes the cartoon canon from Pillars of Equestria planting trees to (Headcanon from this point) planting crystals in a tree that later become elements (And makes Starswirl into an arrogant plothole that gives himself too much credit and let's be honest he needs to be kicked more pegs down in addition to what saving stygian already knocked loose
), and since there are more trees and the main tree of harmony has a vast network of crystal roots that is seen in cartoons underneath friendship school, here comes the theory: those trees of harmony are not in fact trees ... but branches of colossal planet spanning construct/magical organism , sorta like Pandora from Avatar movies , making planet Equis(As far as I know its fanon name for pony planet) alive in similar way.
But of course, that is headcanon.
And so Tom the Police Man is on board of this magical ship with his wife , now we need Teranne and Hay Lin parents on board and we have full set
... kinda since Harold might be ... undisposed in future even if Susan and Anna don't ... discipline him severly
.
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I mean the prick just used the EG world as a trash can which is crazy. I can see him getting jealous and grumpy and lying about the mirror that he coldn't treat as an easy experiment disposal while Celestia and Luna actually had fun with it and in reality probably didn't even risk damaging anything. Shame of Celestia not figuring it out and spreadin the misinformation to Twily.
I haven't seen as much of the comics for MLP that I would like, but I do remember seeing something about that. Wasn't Celestia actually dating the good Sombra of that world? Yeah, if anyone was damaging the balance of other worlds, it was Starswirl.
Yeah, Spike is ok, but I can see where too many of him would be a bad thing.
Oooohhhh, those spikes! I love spikes, but too many of anything can be bad. Ooo, nega-Cadence, I love that! I really want to see that now lol.
That is true, and I knew there was a reason I never liked Hera, this just makes it worse if she was attacking children. As for Artemis, that seems kind of weird for her to be like that given what her domain is. How could she really know her domain without embracing and experiencing it? That's just a little odd for a goddess.
I never thought of the tree of Harmony, and didn't know about the other trees, but I was kind of thinking all the Heart bearers in this universe is going to be people like Elyon is for Meridian and Lillian is for Earth. I was thinking along the lines his predecessor created the rainbow locket, or whatever it was called and buried it creating the Tree of Harmony. I was kind f thinking of making Discord being more playfully annoying than actual evil, though having a grudge with Luna and Celestia. I kind of figured Lillian could probably do a lot of what Discord does if she wanted to pretty much fit the bill. Then again, I could change it.
I still don't know how much I like what they did with the pillars, I think I would rather of had them as previous bearers of the elements. Though I do like your theory of them being connected like that and being one large magical organism. And the Starswirl in the cartoon really does need knocked down a peg or two, or even a hundred
as I really do not like him there. I like the thought of him being eccentric that eventually went off the deep end, maybe after a fight with the sisters and him.
Yep, and Anna will be thrilled to know Will is back as I want them to have been kind of close in the story. I can see hay Lin's family easily accepting magic, the only one I'm unsure of is Taranee's. Her dad might be a little bit easier to introduce it to, but from what I remember of her mother (which may be memories from fanfictions so this might night be accurate) she is very strict and a bit of a control freak. She isn't mean like Elizabeth, just strict and does love her children. Harold, he really needs to get locked in a room with Susan and Anna so they can have a nice long talk. Just might want to restock the first-aid kit first and maybe add another one or two.
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I mean kinda? I think that situation with Celestia and alt!Sombra was more of a crush than love but that is my opinion.
As for Celestia not figuring it out, well there is a simple reason for that: we can bash Starswirl's character all we want
but he was Equestria's foremost expert on matters of space & time magics, the dimensional mirror was his creation, adding to this fact that he was a mentor to Celestia and Luna and suddenly no one questions what he says
. And there is an argument that he was sorta right about imbalance since after the portal was cracked in Friendship Games a number of magical issues suddenly grew. It's a weak and circumstantial argument but it exists.
Well, we can't judge what people of the ancient world thought about their gods since they are sort-of long dead, and it is by the standards of modern society that we judge those myths as weird and gods and heroes of those as pricks. It is the only explanation, not justification, I still think that the greek pantheon is full of *Litanny of insults best left unwritten
* and the only gods that can't be accused of crimes against mankind are Hestia, Hephaestus, and Hades (at least from the main ones, there are too many minor gods to check everyone).
Ahh, so heart keepers only as sentient and mobile inhabitants ... fair and understandable point.
As for playful and misunderstood Discord ..., that still can be dangerous
. Don't get me wrong, I am all for it but it still doesn't change the fact that he could be accidentally dangerous in past.
Lilian had her accident with mind control in school and it ended well but it could have also gone so much worse...
Hypothetical scenario: Discord finds a pony settlement in the swamps. As an annoying joke, he changes for 24 hours all inhabitants into big insects and then leaves the town to annoy Celestia&Luna.
During his absence, some of the inhabitants were having panic attacks caused by phobias of insects. Some of them suffered mental issues, some of them suffer or cause accidents because of lack of control over strange new bodies, and there is one case where phobia triggered a "fly or fight" response and the victim started attacking others with lethal intentions. The next day, the transformation is undone, and the joke is over ... but there is property damage, psychic scars, and even wounded and casualties.
That is just an example that more absentminded or playful Discord is no less dangerous than one that means to do so.
... or a dimensional phone number to Discord ...and suddenly I want exactly that cataclysm to unfold.
You can even make the argument that this version is even more dangerous since all of that was accidental and so truly unpredictable. So one thing worse than a despot with phenomenal cosmic power is a jokester with the same might.
And you are right Lilian could go Discord on earth ... better not give her ideas
Pillars of old Equestria weren't bad per se but rather unnecessary.
). So my feelings are also mixed.
It was a nice element that members of Mane six have their own mythical idols, and scavenging hunt for artifacts was an experience, but after all that struggle with Stygian, Pillars sorta disappeared into civilian life since modern Equestria doesn't need monster slayers as much(They could help a little with Storm King if you ask me...) and that kinda made that entire struggle a little pointless (Except officially canonizing EQG universe as part of the main show since the banishment of sirens happened in the flashback inside those two episodes
If those two get Harold, I don't think a first-aid kit will be enough
... or Mass Effect Medi-Gel...or Ratchet&Clank nanites... or Armstrong "Nanomachines Son!" ... maybe it's better to skip those and ask Twilight if she has some necromancy spell? I don't think Equestria has true resurrection magic and Nerissa's variation seemed to be tied to Guardian transformation and I don't think Harold has ... or wants guardian membership, it is sorta ... exclusive
... and requires double X in the genome
...
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I didn't really know for sure, I just kind of remembered they were involved some how so a crush might be what I was thinking of.
Ok, that's definitely a fair point. I don't really like Starswirl, but I guess you do have to give him credit for his accomplishments...even if he is a prick. Wasn't thinking about that either, so that makes a lot of sense why they believed him. I guess the argument does exist, though I do have to wonder what would have happened if EG kept going on as more things could have happened. I haven't seen a lot of the shorts, but I really loved the specials and saw so much potential there for stories.
Well, that's true, as is your thoughts on the pantheon lol. I love the myths though and do love seeing them used in other things with a much better back story even if some of those were weird if somehow kind of good. *looks at Disney's Hercules).
Yep, for the story. There is only one Heart that doesn't seem to be a person, but there is reasons for it.
Ok, you have an excellent point about Discord and...kind of making me see him more as Joker at the moment.
I can see one of his pranks backfiring like this and causing so much damage on all spctrums, physical, emotional and enviromental. This version might actually be a lot worse, so I think I'll leave Discord alone as he is and maybe make Twilight the Heart, or someone else. Though...I do kinda want to see that cataclysm to happen too. 
I will kind of give it that it was nice for the Mane Six to have their own mythical idols, but yeah, them blending into the background was kind of sad if they were going to be around. Helping with the Storm King would have been nice. I will say yay
to canonizing EG though. 
Yeah, those might not even come close to saving Harold's butt, though that makes me want to lock him in a smaller room now with the two and see new paintjob on the walls. A nice red sounds nice and a trophy hanging on the wall of the Pest hanging there. And I don't mean John L. (No way I'm even going to try and spell his last name as I know I would butcher it.
I have several questions: