Friday Dec 23 d
“I don’t think I like the idea of you going to a whole different universe, what if something happens? How would I reach you?” Susan asked, hugging Sunset tightly in the middle of the lab while Twilight was at the other end holding several sensors to record whatever data they could glean from what was about to happen.
“Relax mom, Equestria is the safest place you could be. Nothing ever really happens there.” Sunset assured her.
In another world, Princess Twilight Sparkle looked up from the book she was studying in the Canterlot Forbidden Archives at the behest of Princess Celestia, the alicorn princess sneezing loudly. After blinking a few times she grumbled, “Somepony must be talking about me.”
Back in the lab Susan stepped back from her daughter, more than a little uneasy at the fact her daughter would be somewhere she couldn’t get to if something happened. She wouldn’t know if her daughter was hurt, or got into some kind of trouble. “I still don’t like this, but I’ll trust you. I do expect to be taken there sometime soon to see this place that you grew up in.” And to have a long talk with a certain pony.
“I think we would all like to go, but we understand that too many of us at the same time might be a bad idea.” Twilight said, “Anyways, I’m ready when you are.”
“I am too.” Martin confirmed from his side of the room.
“Well then, I’ll be back soon.” Sunset said, changing into her guardian form and once again creating a rift into Equestria. As she stepped through she was a little surprised to find herself in front of a large crystalline tower, one of the spires being the one she spotted last time letting her know she was in Ponyville. Closing the portal, Sunset flew over to the door and hovered there trying to decide what to do. The castle was pretty big, she figured the doors would actually look intimidating to most ponies, but to her they just looked slightly larger than normal. As she tried to decide on proper etiquette in this situation, the door swung open and a baby dragon stood there looking up at Sunset.
“You don’t see that everyday.” Spike said, earning a giggle from Sunset.
“Hey Spike, Twi around?” Sunset asked, earning a sad shake of the head from the dragon.
“I’m afraid not, Princess Celestia sent a message that sounded urgent earlier and she took the girls to see what was going on. She did leave this bag for you.” Spike explained, pulling a large bag for his size and offered it to her. “She said to give these to you She spent a large part of the morning enchanting the one in the smaller bag inside to your specifications to help out. The others are extras that she said to give you to experiment with in order to pay for the thing you gave her yesterday.”
“Thanks Spike.” Sunset sighed, feeling a little let down that she wouldn’t be able to visit her friend. She thought about just taking the smaller bag inside, but knew Twilight wouldn’t be too happy about that. Looking inside she saw a handful of large fire rubies that to the baby dragon would look humongous. Taking one of them she tossed it to the dragon that barely caught it.
“What’s this for?” Spike asked.
“You like fire rubies, don’t you?” Sunset smirked.
“Oh wow, thank you Sunset!” Spike cried out as he hugged Sunset’s leg. She reached down and patted his head and gave him a warm smile as he stepped back.
“Happy Hearth’s Warming little guy.” Sunset smiled.
“You too, or Merry Christmas, Sunset.” Spike said, waving goodbye as he ducked back inside, sucking on his ruby as he shut the door. With a giggle, Sunset flew back and reopened the portal to step through to the surprised looks of Twilight and Martin.
“Is there a time displacement or something? You were only gone for a few minutes.” Twilight asked, taking the bag from Sunset.
“Nope, Twilight got called away for something.” Sunset sighed.
“That’s going to get confusing pretty quick.” Martin laughed as he joined his girlfriend to inspect the gems. “These will be perfect, and we will have so many left over to study and experiment with. Too bad we couldn’t write a thesis on this, we would be famous.”
“Our friends are more important.” Twilight said, “Wow, never thought I’d say that.”
“Well, your friends appreciate the sentiment.” Sunset said, hugging Twilight. “I’m going to let mom know I’m back.”
Thankfully, they had all the gems that Martin suggested they add to the original design and most were already cut perfectly except for a couple. Twilight had said she knew somebody who could get them cut rather quickly in the morning before they came over, which Sunset was thankful for. Bidding them a goodnight, and after sharing a nice dinner with her mother, the two decided to turn into bed for the night after the exhausting day.
Luna was a little too anxious as she ate breakfast with her sister’s dinner. Celestia had been a little subdued all day, which worried Luna a little. But the solar princess had assured her that Sunset wasn’t somepony to worry about. Keeping her opinion on the matter to herself, they enjoyed a mostly quiet meal together before Celestia set the sun for the day and went to bed freeing Luna up to enact her plan she thought about all day.
After making sure the night sky was perfect, Luna returned to her quarters leaving explicit instructions that she was not to be bothered by anypony unless it was a true emergency. Getting settled in, she closed her eyes and let her body rest as she entered into the astral plane and navigated her way to Twilight’s castle where only Spike was at, already asleep in his bed holding a half eaten fire ruby. Traversing the large crystalline structure Luna quickly found what she was looking for, the journal that was the key to the human world. She didn’t really hate the species, but she despised any of them that aligned with Kandrakar. Their betrayal still hurt her deeply, his betrayal really. The one person who Luna once thought would be there for her through anything.
Using her magic, she synched up with the signature of the book and followed it to its match in the other world. It was something that was a little more draining than she anticipated, as she had to force her way through the link and not the portal itself. Thankfully it was just her astral form which was linked to the dream realm which actually connected multiple worlds and dimensions if you knew how to traverse it. If it was her physical form, she never would have been able to do something like this. She still didn’t understand how that girl was able to, as Equestria was still sealed off. Other than the portal, it would take the Elements of Harmony themselves to open a gateway.
Finding herself the closest dream gate, she entered it and found it was just the person she was looking for. Sunset Shimmer was dreaming about the human versions of the element bearers yelling at her in some hallway lined with lockers. They were telling her how they should never have trusted her and that she was never their friend. Despite her own mistrust of this girl, she couldn’t bring herself to let this go on. Using her magic, she was able to bend the dream away from them tormenting the poor girl to them laughing and enjoying donuts at Donut Joe’s. Luna couldn’t hide the smirk at seeing how weird it was to see the humans sitting at a table surrounded by ponies.
Turning from the dream, Luna did something she rarely ever did as she considered it a huge invasion of privacy. The last time she had used it was before Nightmare Moon, back when she used the skill more often on nobles who she was sure were plotting things. Since dreams are a part of the subconscious, she was able to burrow a little deeper to access memories and actually view them and see the truth of someone’s character.
Luna floated around in something that seemed like space, little balls of light floating around which held memories of this girl’s past. Something worried Luna though as where all the orbs should be lit up, there were plenty that were dim with cracks and a few more that were just black with no light coming from them at all. It made Luna worry about the girl’s mental state as this was bad, very bad. It also made her wonder if maybe this girl was just another victim of that despicable piece of filth.
Floating over to one, she took it gently in her hooves and peered into it. She was careful not to damage the fragile orb as doing so could hurt a person’s psyche and Luna did not want that on her hooves. If it came down to it, she would confront the girl directly.
“Hello there, my little pony. Do you know who I am?” Princess Celestia asked, nuzzling a very young amber filly with a fiery mane.
“No, but you’re really pretty.” The filly said innocently, looking up in awe from the bed she was laying in. The room looked to be a private medical one that was from the castle.
“Thank you sweetie, you know you are very pretty yourself. My name is Princess Celestia, can you tell me what your name is?” Celestia asked, earning a wide eyes look from the filly as she looked awestruck.
“You’re really a princess?” The filly gasped out, almost falling back over from her now sitting position.
“Indeed I am, little one. We need to know your name so we can find your parents.” Celestia said, wincing when the filly eyes started filling with tears after sitting quietly for a few moments.
“I…I don’t know my name.” The filly sobbed out, “Where is my mommy?”
“What does your mommy look like?” Celestia asked kindly, ears folding back as the filly’s sobs grew louder.
“I DON’T KNOW!” The filly cried loudly burying her face in her forehooves.
“Shhh, it's okay my little pony.” Celestia soothed as she pulled the filly close to her with a wing. “Until we find your mommy, I will take care of you. You have very powerful magic, much more powerful than anything I’ve seen in a long time. What if I make you my student?”
“Does that mean you will be my mommy?” The filly asked, quieting down a little.
“In a way, I suppose it does.” Celestia said, her face clearly showing a nervous expression.
“But what about my name?” the filly sniffled.
“Well, you have a sun for a cutie mark and I found you during sunset.” Celestia mused, tapping a hoof to her chin, “The way your eyes are shimmering too, I think your name could be…Sunset Shimmer.”
“I like that name.” Sunset grinned, a look of confusion quickly taking its place. “What’s a cutie mark?”
Pulling back, Luna couldn’t deny the fact that Sunset was so sincere in the memory, and she couldn’t help thinking it was actually kind of sweet, if sad. This wasn’t a memory of an agent of Kandrakar or somebody who aligned themselves with that thing. No, this was an innocent filly that somehow lost her family. “Could we have been wrong about this girl?”
The more Luna thought about it the more something was bothering her. She was so wrapped up in her pain and anger that she kept overlooking something that didn’t make sense. Something that pointed to that man no longer being a part of Kandrakar which was making her wonder if maybe they finally looked past their noses and saw that monster for what he truly was and punished him for his sins? If he was still a part of Kandrakar, then Sunset would not have the Heart of Kandrakar.
Moving to another orb, she once again carefully peered into it. She couldn’t help feeling a little frustration for the poor filly who was clearly a little older as she sat dejected looking at the ground as Celestia stood tall over her keeping an eye on a couple mares not far away sending Sunset dirty looks.
“As my student, you must refrain from this type of boorish actions that get you in trouble. Do you know how long it is going to take that poor filly to regrow her mane?” Celestia scolded, the filly looking more and more dejected by the second.
“She’s the one who-” Sunset started, only to be cut off before she could get anything else out.
“Sunset, your actions reflect on me as a princess. You are held up to a higher standard than the rest of the nobles and commoners attending my school. A few words isn’t going to hurt you, but a fireball could have seriously hurt somepony more than just burning their mane off.” Celestia stiffly said.
“But Celestia-” Sunset once again tried to explain.
“Princess Celestia. Now go to your chambers and reflect on your actions. I won’t be teaching you anything more until you are allowed to return to classes.” Celestia said, turning around and stiffly trotted off.
“At least she’s keeping that little monster at hoof’s length.” One of the mares chuckled, glaring at the crying filly.
“I still don’t see how trash like that gets to be her student. Can you imagine if the princess actually adopted street trash like that?” The second mare snorted.
“My husband said if she gets much closer to the princess, something might happen to the little freak.” The first mare said, uncaring that Sunset could hear everything as she cried harder.
“You mean kill her? I doubt anypony would miss her and maybe then the princess would see just how special our children are. They deserve her attention more than her.” The second mare tittered.
Sunset couldn’t take anymore and ran all the way from the front hall of the school where the headmare called Celestia in to deal with what had happened. It was five bullies ganging up on her and were going to attack her, and no pony would listen to her. She was only defending herself and now all she felt was pain and betrayal from the pony she saw as a mother.
Luna wiped a tear from her eye as she moved away from the orb, she could feel every emotion from the filly. She was feeling so much pain from that, but at the same time so much confusion as she loved the princess so much and saw her as a mother. With a shuddering sigh she floated over to another orb, unsure if she wanted to see any more. She silently hoped that this one would show her sister in a better light.
“Denied!” Celestia barked out at one of the petitioners to the court, guards lined up both sides of the aisle as a noble had been begging for permission to buy out the parcel of land that he wanted to build a new mansion on. It held an orphanage on it though and Celestia wasn’t going to let these entitled nobles displace several orphans just to build a bigger mansion because his current one wasn’t good enough. Court had already gone on for an hour longer than it should have, and Celestia was at her wit’s end with this idiot.
“Mom! I did it! I mastered teleportation!” Sunset cried excitedly as she popped in from nowhere, the spell obviously depositing the filly in front of the already agitated princess. The noble glared hatefully at the filly while several guards facehoofed.
“Sunset, I told you not to call me that!” Celestia snapped out, her glare switching from the filly back to the noble. “I’ve told you no several times already! If you bring this before me again I will dump you in the middle of the badlands with no provisions! Am I clear?”
“Very!” The noble squeaked out before running for his life.
“Sunset, I felt bad after last time so I let you call me mom in private.” Celestia scolded the now crying filly. “In. Private. Not in the middle of court like you just did.”
“But court was over an hour ago...” Sunset whined.
“Sunset.” Celestia sighed, taking a deep breath. “I’m sorry, I should have never let you call me mother in the first place. You are old enough to understand I am not your mother, and I can never be your mother. I am your teacher, and yes your guardian while you are here. I can not be a mother to you and it is about time you learned that lesson.”
“I’m sorry!’ Sunset wailed, and for a moment it looked like Celestia was going to go comfort her before looking at her gathered guards.
“I’m sorry, Sunset. That is final, lessons are canceled for today, so go try and make a few friends.” Celestia sighed.
“That’s all you ever say to do! You never even listen when I tell you they all hate me! The nobles look down on me and the rest just want to get close to you!” Sunset screamed in frustration.
“Don’t take that tone with me, I am trying my best with you!” Celestia snapped, “You know what, lessons are canceled for the rest of the week! Until you act your age and your status, you can rely on your classes at the school.”
“Fine!” Sunset snapped out, teleporting away leaving a few sparkles in the air that were her tears falling to the ground.
Sunset wasn’t the only one frustrated, Luna’s own was growing very much so herself. She loved her sister dearly, but even she could see Sunset was acting beyond her age in that memory. Floating over to another, she took it in her hooves and hoped beyond hope for some better memories.
“Hi, my name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza, but you can call me Cadence. What’s yours?” A pink pony asked happily, if shyly as she shifted nervously in front of Sunset. Apparently Sunset was to meet Celestia here for their lessons today, she wasn’t expecting another pony to be there. Much less a princess.
“I’m Sunset Shimmer, I’m sorry but this room is reserved this afternoon for my lessons with the Princess.” Sunset said, trying to be at least polite as the pony didn’t seem shifty or hateful at all, unlike the rest of the nobles.
“That’s weird, Auntie Celestia told me to meet her here.” Cadence said, shocking Sunset a little.
“You don’t want to call her that, she says she can’t have any family.” Sunset sighed sadly.
“Greetings my little ponies, I’m happy to see you both getting along.” Celestia said as she came into the room.
“Hi, Auntie Celestia.” Cadence chirped, obviously happy to see Celestia.
“I hope you are getting settled in, dear.” Celestia said, giving the pink alicorn a large smile.
“Wait, she gets to call you Auntie?” Sunset asked, eyes narrowing.
“Of course, she is my niece.” Celestia said, giving Sunset a shocked look.
“You said you can’t have a family!” Sunset snapped out, giving a death glare to the new alicorn.
“Now Sunset, settle down.” Celestia said, her tone becoming stern.
“Settle down?” Sunset laughed bitterly, “I have every right to be upset! So this pink menace comes in and after one day gets to call you Auntie while I’ve been here for years and I get scolded because I called you mom?”
“Sunset, it isn’t like that! And I demand that you stop acting like this and apologize to Cadence!” Celestia said, becoming demanding by the end.
“I’m going back to my room, you can play house with that pink thief all you want!” Sunset sobbed out as she teleported away.
Luna couldn’t believe how much hope Sunset seemed to exude when she first met Cadence only for it to be crushed and replaced by anger and resentment. Luna had a bad feeling that this is where Sunset started down a path of darkness much like the lunar princess once did. The thought bothered Luna very much as she realized those feelings were what she was feeling in overwhelming amounts all that time ago. Still, she pressed on and sought out another orb.
“I showed you the mirror in hopes of curbing your growing negative attitude, Sunset.” Celestia snapped as she glared at Sunset who lay on the floor with several books and a candle in the restricted section of the archives. “You have gone too far this time!
“This book says you could have helped me become an alicorn!” Sunset screamed as she threw the open book at Celestia, who deflected it with a little magic.
“If you accepted Harmony, then someday you could have been on the path to earn your wings.” Celestia sighed heavily.
“You just didn’t want to help me, admit it! You never even really wanted me, after all the princess couldn’t be bothered loving a street rat!” Sunset screamed.
“Who ever said I didn’t love you?” Celestia asked softly, realization flashing through her eyes.
“If you attack the princess brat, I’ll personally toss you out of the castle!” One of the guards said, a mare that actually sounded like the princes a little bit. It was the last words Sunset focused on though, words that to the filly sounded as if they came from Celestia’s own mouth.
“Who would want trash like me when they could have Cadence, huh?” Sunset sobbed before teleporting to her room where she grabbed a few things and stuffed them into her saddlebag. While for most ponies it would be impossible to teleport in restricted rooms in the castle thanks to the warding spells, Sunset was a prodigy and had the raw power to overpower such minor inconveniences. With a pop, she appeared before the mirror where she stopped for a moment seeing Celestia’s reflection on the surface as the princess stood behind her.
“Sunset, wait!” Celestia pleaded.
“I’ll find a way to prove that I’m worthy of being a princess! That I’m worthy of love!” Sunset promised before jumping through the mirror just as it closed.
Luna couldn’t hold in her own tears, she felt the immense pain Sunset was in. In hopes of finding something to show good memories, Luna found very little of those. There were good times Celestia shared with the poor filly, but the longer Sunset stayed under the princess’s care the fewer they became. She finally found some happiness weeks after what happened at that fall formal event. It was small things at first, but finally the battle of the bands happened and Sunset finally felt as if she had found love. A family.
She also regained the Heart of Kandrakar meaning that at one point in time Sunset was once one of them. Questions were how and when? The earliest memories Sunset had was meeting Celestia which meant the cracked and blacked out memories were the when. Something must have destroyed or sealed those memories as Luna couldn’t see into any of those orbs.
As for the happiness found, Anon-A-Miss tore it all a part and Sunset once again lost her family. Luna couldn’t believe how much pain the poor girl went through during it and how those other children could be so cruel to her. The same way Luna was so tempted to be cruel to her because of her association with a place she obviously knew so little about. At least the girl was now in a happier place after being reunited with Susan and Luna finally came to the part of what happened. It made Luna fume as she always knew Kandrakar used young people to do their dirty work, but this was unacceptable to her.
“I thought I sensed a filthy barnyard beast here.” A male voice snarled before Luna’s world erupted in pain.
“You!” Luna panted, seeing the monster she hated more than anything before her. Even with the shadows cloaking him and hiding his identity to the point of looking like a grim reaper, she knew him.
“I guess I should thank you as I couldn’t find this filthy little thing’s dreamscape without you.” The man laughed darkly, “So much pain in her life, I won’t even have to do much to push her over the edge and into my control.”
“Don’t you even dare lay a finger on this child!” Luna growled out, her wings splaying wide in an aggressive stance.
“With how beautiful you looked when we were together, I never dreamed you would be this disgusting when I learned of your true nature.” The man said in disgust, “To think I actually kissed you, proposed to you.”
“I wish I saw your true nature when we first met, you monster!” Luna snarled.
“Me, the monster? No my dear pony princess. You are the one who masqueraded as a human during the summit of worlds.” The man snarled.
“I’m not the one who was behind destroying a whole world of ponies!” Luna growled, tears forming at remembering one of Equestria’s sister worlds being destroyed. Luna knew this man was behind it, but she had no proof for the council of Kandrakar. In fact, she would have died, her powers sealed like all other delegates while on Kandrakar for safety precautions at the time, if not for Celestia storming in and stopping this man’s brutal assault on Luna. It was then that Celestia sealed off all equine worlds from Kandrakar before any other shared the same fate as that poor world did.
“Oh, are you still hung up on that? You know I was actually trying to get your world?” The man chuckled before Luna shot a powerful beam from her horn and blasted the man from Sunset’s dreamscape. A small whimper started Luna, turning around she couldn’t believe what she was looking at. It was a filly, yet different from Sunset, or at least partly so. The left side of the body had a peach colored coat matching that of a caucasian human while the right had the regular amber coat of Sunset Shimmer. The left side of the body though had a mane and tail that matched Sunset’s while the amber colored side had a pure red tail with the half of mane being much shorter. Finally, the left eye was cyan while the right was hazel.
“Who are you?” Sunset asked, the filly shaking a little in fright. Luna pulled the filly close with her wings and cuddled with her, calming her down.
“I’m Luna, a friend.” Luna said, earning a smile from the filly. She intended to shore up this girl’s dream world defenses to make sure that man couldn’t get back here too easily. Something told her that it wouldn’t need much as it felt like there was something blocking him from getting here normally, and something he said made her realize the only way he got in was because of her leading the way. She would need to have a long talk with her sister though as Luna did not like what she saw, not one bit. She would also have to decide what to do with that man as he didn’t seem to belong to Kandrakar anymore seeing that Sunset was in possession of the Heart, but she couldn’t be sure.
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Looks like even good groups can have rotten eggs and Luna should only hold a grudge against the guilty one. As far she knows it sounds like they were trying to be fair and wanted more proof. I hope she has a word with Celestia about how she treated sunset. Sunset might not want to admit to herself but she is afraid of being alone and unloved forever. Anon a miss took away the people she thought were family and now she is afraid to open up fully with those who hurt her.
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, depression is troublesome. Good luck with suplexing this issue.
Yikes
Mithril sounds like a good idea ... on paper at least. The problem lies with the rarity of this material, it is abundant in worlds with high magic levels or where there is an elven or fey population (Middle Earth, Nirn, Azeroth, Faerun, or Terriaria are most notable worlds with this ore). Chances for Meridian to have access to this ore are slim to none, as for Equestria... well for naturally occurring it's like fifty-fifty, and for synthetic one Luna is the best point of contact ... if there is good will present for such transmutation. Besides, I don't think Martin has access to the tools necessary to smelt or forge mithril.
Against all appearances, gold is not good material for magical jewelry. Of course, it is a symbol of power and wealth but it is also known for its lack of reactivity, and lack of magnetic properties making it in fantasy a counterpart to silver items as much as Orichalcum (strong anti-magic metal) is a counterpart to Mithril. It's more of a resistor instead of an amplifier ( And here comes the theory that Sky sisters have their everyday items made from their personal materials: Moon's Silver and Sun's gold which empowers Luna and seals Celestia's power to manageable levels respectively).
This is a nice example of how hard the process to make mithril can be:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/21160/18/hooves-plush-and-magic-the-untold-tales/nightmares-gem-of-a-plan
Well, maybe not hard but time and energy-consuming.
I mean fire ruby is very good if the bracelet would be set to shoot a fire blast. I personally would go for energy blast or force blast since those ignore most magical resistances and considering that Susan was attacked by elementals, having a non-elemental magical attack is nice type coverage. Shame I don't know what kind of natural gem could be connected to the concept of force... well maybe alexandrine but that is more strength than force...
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Well there is two options for that:
a) Crystals. They can be programmed/grown with any affinity or properties desired at the moment but are weaker;
b)Gems, More powerful of the two but their properties and affinities are more or less set in stone
Heh, writing that ranch owner I was inspired by a truly legendary character of Old Man Henderson, a legend that is beyond Discord on so many levels that is not funny, and his name became a scale of plot derailments. Some of his more notable achievements:
)?
) and eromancy (Seriously, who came up with THAT BRANCH of magic arts?!
)
-Slaughtering Hastur cults across a very big terrain;
-Taking a page of Necronomicon, making a blunt with it, and then smoking it ;
-Killing Hastur PERNAMENTLY with the use of C4;
-Cheating death and Crawling Chaos Nyarlathotep in one deal;
-Reincarnating himself and Hastur (Heather) and then escaping into the wide multiverse;
Eyup Sirens had a meeting with him and then first-row seats to see his brand of mayhem.
I mean who is better to operate a ranch with nearby eldritch anomaly than a descendant of that mad-lad?
At first unicorn transformation was supposed to be a side-effect of Threbe Star activation ... but then I thought why it should be only a one-time occurrence (besides there is not many stories with Sunset!Unicorn going to CHS like it's no big deal, and those that exist are canceled
I had a laugh imagining a Flash Sentry that is confused about what to feel about the true form of his ex.
Don't worry, I am not a mind reader ... and that is good since I kinda despise mental arts (too easy to abuse and too hard to restrict) together with chronomancy (Me and Time have a strict policy of no-touchie
I'm glad that omakes brought at least momentary joy.
As for potential therapists ... well you mentioned some good options,
I mentioned Thorax for his empathy...
Well, Trixie was a counselor in a school of friendship at one point ... it kinda counts?
(The therapist needs to be impartial dammit)...
I don't think Cheerlee counts ...
Granny Smith could be one therapist that cannot be accused of being chummy with Celestia
Zecora is a shaman/herbalist, those are spiritual guides, so that's a maybe?
Treehugger? So long as she doesn't stone her patients more than Discord ever was ...
... There is still an option to find a normal human therapist OC and force-feed him with "Magic exists" through demonstration.
... she didn't scream 
... so someone giving therapy to a bunch of empowered teens, a demi-god, mother of said demi-god and past-parental-figure goddess is not beyond sanity ... but it may be beyond wallet content.
In "Lucifer" series there was that therapist lady that took the existence of a fallen angel as patient quite nicely
Yeah, Ponyville. There is nothing abnormal in this city.
Monster attacks? Apocalypse twice a week? That is normal...
And so Luna reasons are known ... and even if breaking the best princess's heart after manipulation deserves prompt annihilation of the culprit, genociding a world for reason: xenophobia; might also be worth noting.
Villan confirmed as male and also a dream/astral walker...
I don't want to point fingers at baldies but ...
And we have another example of how the limelight can make you blind to the most obvious things ... and how millennial living can skewer your understanding of others together with perceptions... but it seems that it's just history going full circle.
I mean, this happens again ... even if unknowingly once more.
After all balance/harmony as a concept likes to be a wheel , it turns and turns...
Welp Luna experiences this particular sword edge
: delving so deep into dreamscape is like a mini-melding of consciousness and can easily lead to emotional compromising (after all feeling someone suffering as your own can seriously make you symphatetic to their plight ... as it should in such cases).
Welp that happened
... It can't be exactly lied on Luna hoofs since she didn't knew about potential enemy combatant scrying and leading him to accidental discovery ... but some mithril in apology would be nice in addition to shoring up dreamscape fortress.
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Yep, though even when they were trying to set up something good more than a few bad apples ruined it. The next part will have Luna talking with Celestia with a few more in on the conversation, but I'm not sure if I did as good of a job as I hoped. I sent it to be preread and should be posted the same time tomorrow as usual. She is very afraid of that, and she will have to face that sooner or later (sooner actually) if she wants to or not. As for Luna, there is still one more piece to the puzzle as to why she hates the man with a passion and hopefully the chapter turned out okay as I learned I'm not very good at actually writing scenes like that even if I try very hard.
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It is.
He probably doesn't, but at least Luna can make what they want with it and after their meeting I'm sure Luna will be more than happy to help with not only creating it for them, but shaping it how they want.
I actually didn't know that about gold, but I can see both their regalia being made out of those. With Celestia's sun being volatile, or at least as volatile as a giant ball of burning gas can be, I can see her needing limiters to negate flares of magic much like solar flares. As for Luna, more magic power can only be good for the bestest princess!
That seemed to take a long time, and now I have a new story to read as soon as I can!
You do have a very good point, with the elementals attacking Susan it would be a lot better to go with an energy or force blast as fire would be useless against Ember unless it was on the scale of what Sunset can produce as her's has effects other than just heat. I'll probably go with gems as with the large bag Sunset got, there is plenty in there.
I never heard of that before but I'll have to see if I can find anything as Old Man Henderson sounds pretty funny. I do have to wonder what the Sirens thought with a front row seat.
I'm actually glad you made it a more than one time thing as it was pretty funny, and aww inducing imagining some of CHS's reactions. Especially Flash's as it was pretty funny, the evil guy in the story though was a bit similar though more dramatic and a very opposite reaction.
I can see why you would have an aversion to those arts, but eromancy? Is that really a thing and is it what I think it is? If so, then ewwwwww.
They do, I love them!
Out of those, several I do like, but I think my favorites listed here are Thorax, Granny and Treehugger. Not sure what one I'll use, though I do like Zecora too, but I'd never be able to write a large scene with her as I would never be able to write her dialouge and I have a feeling Sunset would want to strangle her before any real help could be provided.
That was a good series, and I actually thought of a story with him in it. Instead of ending up on Chloe's world, he ended up on EG world and after the Fall Formal takes Sunset in as he realizes she has some divine blood and he pays for the school's repairs. I did like the therapist there, Linda I think, and that could make it easy for some of it, but I want to drag the ponies int some of the sessions so it might have to be Equestria, or even both.
lol I had Twilight wonder if somebody was talking about her since she seems to be the center of all the trouble going on.
Most of her reasons, there is still one more very important one that will be revealed in the next part tomorrow night, He does deserve annihilation for what he's done, but time will tell what will happen because of...spoilers.
Yep, it is a male and he has done some very horrible things.
Hopefully coming events will finally snap Celestia out of it. I've seen the video on Youtube but never actually watched this one until now. I really wish I watched it sooner.
Eyup, though even if it wasn't like a mini-melding I don't think she would be able to ignore the pain Sunset is really in despite her not wanting to admit it out loud. And that is very true, it wasn't Luna's fault but that would be a nice apology gift.
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Items made from mithril are often pricy and rarely found in human forges while being abundant in dwarven and elven ones, from there comes my logic that it either requires superhuman abilities to forge or specialistic tools and techniques. But that is considering only the fantasy part of the equation, Martin and Twilight are more scientific so finding another way to shape metal via physics or technology is not beyond their skills ... might be beyond tools present in the lab, some furnaces used in ironworks look kinda sci-fi to me ... and are colossal.
Yeah, pure gold (and platinum is even less magnetic/reactive in pure form) is a kinda strange metal if you ask me, I learned about some of it's properties when I was watching a cartoon in primary school, where they trapped magnet user in old pharaoh sarcophagus made from pure gold exploiting that said magnet user was a wimp without power. This information kinda stuck with me.
That theory with enhancing/limiting regalia is not my own, but I liked the explanation for how sisters can be equal in power with such a big difference in skills and raw power. I would give a link to the spacebattles forum where it was written ... but I kinda forgot in which forum thread that was.
There is also an option to use electrum (a naturally occurring alloy of gold and silver, with trace amounts of copper and other metals) but I don't know what kind of properties it could have. a mix of original metals, or something new?
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Most of my knowledge about legendary old man comes from "an acquaintance" who was interested in H.P Lovecraft stuff and also from:
TVTROPES
1D4Chan
This small wiki
As for sirens reactions ... it was probably something along the line of:
"We're gonna die, we're gonna die..."
"It's all Adagio's fault ..."
"Fishy man go boom ... And here comes Dagon ... And he goes boom, shame he was such nice a guy..."
Tiaaa, eromancy is exactly what you think it is, I was introduced first through a "Gamer" fanfiction to that ... branch and later in Pathfinder and various other media, most notable users if not practitioners that I remember are:
- succubi (and partially slaaneshi daemons and cultists);
- Cleopatra from Dante's Inferno game;
-Melisandre from Game of Thrones;
- Willow from Buffy: Vampire Slayer;
-Tyvara from Trudi Canavan Books (Had a lovely technique called "Lovers' Death"
There are some ... people who are saying that Eromancy and Amokinesis (Love Magic/Manipulation) are one and the same and so:
- Lily Potter;
- Harry Potter;
-Amora the Enchantress from Marvel;
-Princess Cadance;
- Piper McLean from Percy Jackson books ;
Saying that those characters are eromancers ... is kinda moronic since the first branch is based on lust and body and second on love and affection. Besides can you imagine prude, cowardly and "all not-understanded magic is evil and forbidden" british magicals from HP, learning Patronus if it was from that branch?
Techniques from it are varied and divided into three tiers:
Low-tier: "Allure" and it's aura version ,"Enhancing" experience and simple "stimulations" (Nothing evil there, what someone does behind closed doors so long as they do no harm or attack someone's free will is their issue
Mid-tier: Body modifications. preventing/guaranteeing a child (Including different races), life force manipulation/creation
(More ambiguous applications but it is still a grey zone with intentions, hell giving parents from different races a chance to have a child is good in my book)
High-tier (AND THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THIS BRANCH
Soul manipulations, enslavement, and mind domination/twisting that make what SAURON and Talion from Shadow of Mordor were doing with The One Ring/It's counterpart look like a cheap Jedi Mind Trick performed by a youngling! Blackest of black arts if you ask me, especially considering that participant(victim) willingness is ... too vile to consider
There is also one other pony that could be a therapist: Princess Luna herself.
Ignoring that she has an extensive CV with centuries of experience, she has personal investment and insight into the entire case, and enough time to be very accessible during the day/afternoon time ( There is also an option to make dream therapy sessions but with villain prowling I don't think she would risk it), and with Heart of Kandrakar, meeting place can be wherever and whenever you want in the multiverse.
As for the choice of a therapist ... well you can either roll the dice ...or just make someone the main therapist and the rest are assistants that jump in whenever the main one is not accessible.
Lucifer/EQG crossover?
YES PLEASE!
What could be worse than a world genocide or personal manipulation with the breaking of a heart (which was probably one of the reasons for Nightmare Moon in this timeline)?
... oohhhhh craperoni there is a list of things
...
Eyup "Lullaby for a Princess" is a piece of art worthy of Luwre, and much more than some modern paintings ( I will be first to admit that I don't understand art at all but since when an empty canvas with one black vertical line is art worth 1 million
? Especially when you compare it to some things that different fandoms produce in drawing, music, animation, etc...)
I just had a realization
: since events are derailed there is a big chance that earth Spike will stay a normal if nice doggo unless...
*LIGHTBULB*
Lilian, did you know that with enough belief some animals can learn how to talk? So be a nice girl and believe enough that Twilight can teach Spike how to be sentient...
COME ON AND BELIEVE HARDER, WE NEED A MASCOT!
(A soft whimper woke Luna, and she turned and couldn't believe what she was looking at. It was a filly, but different from Sunset, or at least in part. The left side of the body had a peach-colored coat that matched that of a Caucasian human , while the right side had Sunset Shimmer's normal amber coat, however, the left side of the body had a mane and tail to match Sunsets, while the amber side had a pure red tail with half the mane much shorter Finally, the left eye was cyan while the right one was hazel."Who are you?" Sunset asked, the filly trembling a little with fear. Luna pulled the filly towards her with her wings and snuggled up to calm her.)
Will's Astral Twin+Luna hilfe= Wills retung!
W.I.T.C.H.: Season 2, Episode 8 - Will's Astral Twin so she could be back!
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... Wouldn't that be a "new" twin instead of an old one reborn?
... There was an old twin in this timeline, or it didn't happen since the timeline was kicked out off line by Will "reincarnating"?
I mean this would be nice, Sunset could have a sister, but all of this has complicated implications ... and might cause Sunset's paranoia to spike since she would start asking herself when they will abandon her again ...
It's ... not easy dilema to consider ...
That's true, but based on what Luna found, it's possible !
1This assumes that Luna pulls out the foal with the help of Sunsets !
2 and nothing goes wrong !!!!
3 If you can create copies of hearts and golems then you should be able to split souls!
4 Nerissa has brought back the dead! Will out of Sunset and revive it! Of course only if Sunset accepted!
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True, Martin and Twilight could easily find away through technology to shape mithril through science, or maybe become students of Luna to learn how, or even make a hybrid way. There is deffinately no way they would be able to create a forge comparable to Dwarves or elves, most being way too big. So there choices might be limited as in asking Luna for help until they figure out exactly how to.
That sounds kind of genuis for whoever did that, it was an easy way to take out a trouble maker like that.
It's an awesome theory, I really like it and it honestly makes a lot of sense really. It's ok, it's still cool hearing about it as it makes a lot of sense.
Eletrum is a possibility, though I'm unsure what kind of benefits it could provide. I have to cross gold off the list as even if it is just a cover, I think covers that can naturally provide a naturally beneficial side effect would be much better.
I have never heard about him before and really happy you introduced me to him. It sounds freaking hilarious!
I can see the sirens acting like that too, especially Sonata.
That whole eromancy thing sounds creepy at first thought, but explained like that it does seem to have some benefits and seem t be inherently natural to some creatures. I never thought of it, but yeah Cadence does seem to fit the bill of an eromancer. Not sure rather to be creeped out at that though lol.
True, Luna could be a good therapist and might make for a good introductory one at least. And with her personal investment and insight, it might be a little easier for her to get things rolling. I think I might just go with Luna to begin with though maybe have another to help or give second opinions.
I might do the crossover in a few months, I have to finish this part of the story first as I promised a part a day until this part is finished which I would like to do by the end of the month as I may or may not be able to keep that promise come March 1 as somebody will be having surgery and I have to be there and possibly won't be able to work on anything for a couple days. It is part of the reason I am cutting a few of the things I had planned and moving them to the next part of the story/the sequel which won't be a part a day. After this part though I plan to try and change the style I'm doing the stories and I will be working on a Beetleborg crossover between working on sequels, spinoffs and oneshots of this universe and possibly the Lucifer one when the Beetleborg one is done.
Other than the genocide, there is something personal to Luna which pisses her off more than anything else that he did to her.
I never understood art like that, a line on a canvas being considered art is insane and yet it happens so much. To me good art does range, but I think somebody needs to go to a good doctor when they look at something like that and come up with a whole load of bs as to what the line must mean. It's a freaking line somebody drew to make millions of dollars from gullible people like that lol. No offense to people who actually like that kind of art, sorry.
As for Spike, I do have plans and it involves a certain cat too.
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I actually intended to not bring Will back at all, but I have had a few ideas come up for that scenario if I go with it though I'm unsure if I will. If you and enough people really would like to see her return I might do it as it really would be nice to give Sunset a sister.
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There would be complications, especially Sunset's paranoia to consider. I do have scenarios I've thought about though I originally intended not to bring Will back. I have nothing against doing so if enough people would like to see it happen as I wouldn't have to change much in the first part as it would happen near the end of this part though. The bigger changes would come from the next part.
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This could actually make it happen much sooner than the end of this part if Nerissa helps. Would anyone else like to see this happen?
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I dunno if Luna can even teach Martin and Twilight about that...
How to make Mithril? Yes
How to enchant items? Yes
How to use magic? Also yes
How to forge items? I don't think Luna sits in the forge on the anvil as a hobby so that's a no...
Well as for "Will's revival" ... After some thinking I'm gonna go with no.
Mostly because Will is not dead so there is no one to revive, all "material" that was Will Vandom has gone into Sunset Shimmer.
A potential scenario with an astral drop clone/incarnation of Will at worst can be considered a copy or a shard, at best a new and awkward sister that is Will the same way that Nightmare Moon is Luna.
Well yeah, eromancy can be considered a natural creature occurrence/ability... if you consider demons a natural thing ...
Well, veelas have natural allure but it is such a small part of their skillset that it's not worth counting...
Also that's the point, Cadance is NOT an eromancer (I edited sentence in last coment since it could be unclear) but an amokinetic user, those two arts, are polar opposites like the light/darkness elements or yin/yang for better comparison. They can work in tandem and both can be used for good/neutral/evil purposes but whatever evil you can generate with love magic (which is rather hard to achieve) is negligible in comparison to what eromancers can do using more vile skills ... that are better off erased and forgotten ...
In conclusion as far as I am concerned saying that those two branches of magic are the same is like saying that Flesh Golem and Stone golem are one and the same... There is colleration between two and that's about it.
Sorry for ranting, it's a touchy subject.
And you are right, it's creepy like necromancy
I must say that I never heard about beetleborg... but maybe I will use that oncoming crossover to discover it?
Also if you need to take a break from writing, that is no issue since private life always has priority.
Oh right, Napoleon is precedence in this universe for talking animals... kinda forgot about him ...
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The forging part, nope, but I'm really considering Twilight and Martin becoming Luna's students when the complete a project I have planned for the. Depending on the end of the story though, Twilight may be the only one of the two with potential to use magic right away because of circumstances. Of course, if something happens at the end of this part I'm debating about, then Martin may very well develop the potential. As for the forging part, would it be possible to use magic to shape it like Presea did to craft weapons in Magik Knight Rayearth?
I had no intention to bring Will back, but it was an option which had me come up with a few scenarios when I thought about it. Most of them being a reward for Sunset's service at the end, though your argument against makes a lot of sense and is mostly why I had no intentions to do so from the beginning as Sunset is Will, just memories locked away or destroyed and a new body. If Will did come back it would actually bring up a few complications that I don't think anyone else has mentioned yet. I guess as it doesn't really spoil anything so one of the big complications would be how would Sunset fit in with the Vandoms? Sure she could be considered Susan's daughter, but at the same time she is Will's legacy which could make her be considered Will's daughter in a way. Which would in turn make her Susan's grand daughter. It would be really weird to have a mother your age though. I'm not sure if I'm thinking about that logically or not, or if I'm overthinking things as the whole situation is kind of weird.
I actually do kind of consider demons natural depending on what series you are looking at or what belief system you are looking at. Or at least supernatural.
All kidding aside, if you are looking at demons as a species that has inherent traits or abilities like a succubus/incubus, would that be considered natural to them then or still no? Then again demons could not be a species at all, just the manifestation of dark or negative emotions taking form to create creatures that feed of said emotions like a succubus/incubus. Eromancers though, if it's what I think I'm beginning to understand them to be, are still creepy in my book lol.
Don't be sorry for ranting, learning a little bit even if some of it is creepy. *Glares at eromancers* The necromancy thing sounds a little like Yuna in Final Fantasy 10, and how you described it necromancy isn't really evil and has a very good purpose.
I won't make it as goofy as they show as I plan to make it a bit more serious. Also, there will be a lot of changes to some of the characters and finally it will be EG only, no other worlds mixed in like in my SITCH-verse.
Thanks, I kind of want to wrap this part of the story up by then but I'm not sure I will be able to.
Yep, though this time around there is going to be more than just him. If I do it like I'm planning to, I hope it doesn't upset anybody and I hope I don't make it look too overboard to what I have happen. I have problems sometimes deciding if something is overboard or not.
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Shaping weapon with magic?
The simple answer is yes.
Complicated answer: Depends on circumstances, such as available materials, methods of shaping (transmutation, heat, something more esoteric), and the most important is a smithing knowledge of the caster (making a weapon is not as simple to flatten a hunk of metal into a blade, it must go through many procedures and sharpening unless someone gets a blunt piece of metal in the shape of buster blade). With enough power and imagination, those circumstances can be mitigated but never bypassed. And yes that is a good and possible method but Presea is a blacksmith by occupation so she has knowledge of how to make a sword instead of a mace in the shape of a sword.
And I have no idea how one would go to make an evolving weapon without making it alive.
(I needed to check who presea was and how she worked, my anime knowledge appears to be poor. And the blue sword looks the best out of the three escudo weapons.)
Luna being a teacher to Martin and Sci-Twi...
, and Sci-Twi even matches Luna nicely after being jaded ...
like a Luna!Mini-Me with moon-motif robes and highly advanced staff with the same motif, while Martin surpasses Matt on a warrior path by becoming either a Paladin or Arcane Warrior...
It sounds sooo good
And now I have an image of Sci-Twi speakin' ye olde dialect
*Images of Martin in a tuxedo casting a spell to transform in over the top sequence that tuxedo into technologically advanced plate armor with a glowing twilight symbol on the chest-plate, a tower shield with Luna cutie mark, a dark detachable cape (capes are cool but also a danger like "Incredibles" teach), a purple lightsaber, a helmet that resembles a combo between nightmare moon helmer and iron man helmet.
Said Martin shouts that he will punish all evil in the name of Twilight, while in the background Matt cries in impotent rage that the school nerd not only surpassed him on a warrior path, has a better teacher than Caleb, and also looks in this armor awesome enough to convert some straight man into bi.*
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Yes, succubi and incubi (plural forms) can be considered natural eromancers.
As for if a demon is natural ... well that is my opinion :
Basically, unless it is otherwise specified or explained within the confines of the universe I consider angels, devils, and demons as synthetic life forms that were created by their patron divine/entity as servitors/biological-weapon/emissaries/something else and after eons, they gained semi-autonomy.
In short, they are ancient Geths made by gods as far as I am concerned, so a synthetic life form ergo not natural on the material plane.
So bettleborg are sudo-power rangers without zords ...
I'm listening ...
As for the serious part ... WHY SO SERIOUS?
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The Lucifer character was Dr. Linda Martin. And the Goddess was the Goddess Of All Creation. Her husband was God. Lucifer was her son, as was Amenadiel and the rest. Her grandson is Charlie Martin. Half-Angel and Half-Human. A nephilim.
Lucifer showed her his devil face once, and his wings twice.
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? Same deal for Amenadiel?
*Blink* Ok that is much information that I hadn't known about
With that lineage, shouldn't Lucifer be a full-fledged god, not an angel
... isn't the term for half-angel, half-human: cambion/aasimar?
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And for half-devil/demon, half-human: cambion/tiefling?
(Cambion as a neutral term for the child of higher plane being and mortal)
And Nephilim for half-angel, half-demon?
(If I mixed it, sorry
As for what I wrote in the last comment:
Bunch of empowered teens: Rainbooms and I.T.C.H
Demi-god: Sunset of "A Past Returned" Universe
Mother of said demigod: Susan Vandom of the same universe
Past-parental-figure goddess: Celestia of the same universe
I understand that the previous comment could be unclear since I have a tendency to overwrite so I hope it clarifies
... unless I mistook why you have written about Lucifer's lineage and I just made myself look stupid and English-inept
... In that case nothing new and sorry for the headache
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