In the early days of the nation of Equestria, there existed a group of heroes known as the Pillars of Equestria. By the modern day, they have mostly faded into myth, with many of the facts about them obscured if not lost.
But what is lost can be found if one knows where to look, and sometimes even by accident. Now Twilight Sparkle will, with aid from her friends, help bring to light the truth behind the Pillars of Old Equestria, their connection to the Elements of Harmony, and other secrets of Equestria's past and present that will shape its future.
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Featured on 6/28/2022 and 8/30/2022!
This story draws primarily from the Legends of Magic comic series, written by Jeremy Whitley and with art by Brenda Hickey, Tony Fleecs and Heather Breckel. Additional stories will be acknowledged across individual chapters.
Part of the Quiververse
Huzzah! New story from one of my fave authors!
Definitely looking forward to see where THIS one goes!
*sighs* But on ANOTHER note:
So Ivory Tower is a SMILE agent, rather than Deputy Chancellor of the EEA?
Yippee.
These guys are definitely getting on my nerves.
Can-NOT wait for them to get their well-deserved comeuppance.
Although the same could be said for the EEA, for obvious reasons.
Anyway, excellent first chapter, as always, Echo, and I look forward, with MUCH anticipation, to the next one.
Also, you plan on putting the usual links to the previous stories on the cover page of this, as well, I assume?
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Congrats on being the first to comment!
Ivory Tower is indeed an operative with SMILE...but she's also the Deputy Chancellor of the EEA. The former organization has operatives everywhere, sometimes in the least obvious places. It's a little something that I cribbed from another secretive organization in a different animated series - namely, the Illuminati in Gargoyles.
In any case, I can understand your dislike for both organizations. Be warned that both will have a role in this story.
As stated elsewhere, the second chapter is already complete and ready to go - I plan on releasing it the last week of July. With any luck, the third will be done by then, and released the last week of August.
11284141 Well, thank you!
It isn't often that that happens to me, so I'm happy (in a silly sort of way) about that.
A double-whammy, huh? Lovely.
Can't say as I'm surprised, though.
And that's cool.
Gargoyles is STILL one of my favorite cartoons.
Disney knew how to make good stuff like that back in the day.
Thanks for that, hun. I'll consider myself warned.
As you know, my dislike for SMILE comes from your own stories, and my dislike for the EEA is due to, of course, the business with Chancellor Neighsay in Season 8.
I still do not like that guy.
Again, thanks for the warning.
Okay, thanks for that, Echo.
Looking forward to them all.
Just out of curiosity, how many chapters do you have planned for this one?
As I said, just curious.
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Six or seven, plus one epilogue at minimum. This story's got a lot of ground to cover.
11284179 Okay, gotcha.
And given how many of the Pillars there are, that makes sense.
Well, I must say you're definitely not disappointing with the start to this story!
I like the little details about how you set things up. Quiver and Twilight researching together is sweet to see (in a purely platonic way, as I know they're both very happily taken and I don't mind in the least, as I ship both couples), as is Spike looking out for them both, and the detail of Silver Spoon mentioning the diagrams from her last visit and how she want to see what Twilight was studying is a nice callback to Scars of the Quill. (A certain catchphrase would apply here and on other moments in this chapter, but maybe I ought to refrain from using it seeing as I'm not its originator).
I confess I did worry Twilight might be telling a bit too much to Silver Spoon, but all things considered she didn't tell anything that couldn't be figured out with some thinking and logic, so I still call the amount of stuff she told her reasonable.
Seeing Zecora is nice also, and I like how she was the primary proverbial key to figuring out a clue to Meadowbrook's identity, even with Fluttershy and Silver Spoon to sort of corroborate it. It only makes sense, given the collection of masks has at her home, and considering the reference to the zebra colony in ancient Equestria, it's logical that mask-making would be shared between zebras and local ponies. And the reference to Zecora's homeland not being on maps in pony schools is a nice if rather sad callback to Tales from a Double Date. Hopefully that oversight will be corrected soon in-universe.
On a nicer front... I do like how at least the proper reinstation of Meadowbrook to her actual tribe, so to speak, at least seems to be set to get started, as well as the way that came about. A nice joining of the puzzle pieces that when put together just paints a clear enough picture of what the truth was for it not to be denied. I wonder just how delusional the scholars Luna mentions have to be to just dismiss her like that. Granted, in hindsight it's nice that they trust her enough not to fear her repercussions over not walking on eggshells around her, but still... does it hurt to be polite and respectful? Because 'rude' is a very weak word to describe their treatment of her.
That said, on another nice front, I like the detail over Sour Sweet so bitintly calling out the potentially deliberate replacement of Meadowbrook's pony race over the course of history. It shows it's not about race, but about specific individuals' characters. Granted, like it was pointed out, it could simply be an accidental mix-up, given what was said about Meadowbrook potentially getting conflated with genuine eastern unicorn wizards, and the potential fact that literacy rates were lower over a thousand years ago than they are in the present. Despite the complaints about deliberate edits to written works, the truth is that it's far easier for tales to be permanently altered and erased, whether accidentally or deliberately, if they're spread via sheer word of mouth.
Also, Meadowbrook's mask is glowing already? I certainly wasn't expecting that at all! Though mind you, I have no objections to it, and look forward to what may mean in a near or more distant future.
On a less nice front... I really don't like Ivory Tower. Don't get me wrong, she's a well done character so far, but even from the little we get of her, that mare is just... well, at first she seemed like just a pain in the neck over further revisions to history books (though there at least I understand why that would be a pain on more than one front), but after reading her ending scene, especially with her statement about Harmony being maintained (which I recognize as a far more disturbing callback to Tales from a Double Date)... I seriously worry about what kind of a mess she may cause. Hopefully she'll at least be caught and arrested in the end, assuming she doesn't make a mess so big that it blows up in her face with permanent results.
Moving on (or I guess back?) the flashbacks with Stygian were nice. I liked the general vibe there was to him here - I recognized the bare bones from both canon and the Legends of Magic comic, but I like your expansion and different spins on him, and if previous entries in the Quiververse are anything to go by, the odds of me liking them more than canon (even in points where I still like canon) are high. The introducion of Basso Profondo is intriguing, but certainly not unwelcome in the least, as I don't mind OCs in general, and he so far seems to be an intriguing one in his own right. I wonder if he'll have any relation to three certain non-kelpies in something other than species.
Whether he does or not, though, he certainly seems trouble. Hopefully Stygian can get help before Basso causes too much damage, especially of the permanent kind.
All in all, an absolutely great start to this story! As I said earlier, you did not disappoint in the least! I absolutely loved this, and am very much looking forward to the next chapters!
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I'm glad that you're liking how things are going with the story so far.
One thing that people are going to have to accept about me is that I love continuity and continuity nods...though I do try to be careful and avoid continuity lockout. And as for that catchphrase, well, if you're not gonna do it...
Anyway, I was very careful about what Twilight talked about here with Silver Spoon. In my mind, the fact that the Elements of Harmony were returned to the Tree of Harmony is something that they don't want the general public to know about, given it could lead to panic among the general population. Her telling Silver Spoon about the Tree itself is okay though.
Zecora's presence in the story is due to both me acknowledging her role in establishing Mage Meadowbrook in the series, as well as Twilight having the good sense to cast a wide net for information. Plus, as you acknowledged, there was some cultural exchange.
I think of the scholars less as being delusional or rude and more as being stubborn. There's a trend in academia that tends toward stagnation in particular beliefs, with new ideas challenging the old being very slow to catch on, and the longer that something's been entrenched, the harder it is to change. Couple that with their tendency to stay isolated among themselves - incidentally, the modern basis of the expression 'ivory tower' - and it takes a while for them to go with the times. That's a big reason why Luna sought out Cattail - her testimony alone would be ignored, but hers combined with the evidence he provided as well as a thorough scientific analysis of said evidence, and there's a better chance that they'd give it more than a passing thought.
Again, that's meant to be ambiguous. Meadowbrook being recorded in the history books as being an Eastern unicorn could've been a mistake that simply caught on and never got fixed, or it could've been a deliberate change. The characters will never know, and I'm not even entirely certain myself.
Meadowbrook's mask reacting to Fluttershy is a detail that will be elaborated upon later in the story.
Trust me, you aren't meant to like Ivory Tower. She's partly in the position that she is because I figure that Neighsay would want to surround himself with ponies sympathetic to his viewpoints (and thus with similar attitudes), and partly because a certain other organization wants to make sure they have someone in a position of influence within the EEA. Time will tell what her ultimate fate is.
Finally, the Stygian flashbacks. I love the little guy, and let's face it, he got a raw deal - the other Pillars faded into myth and legend, and he was outright forgotten. Time will tell how things go for him in the Quiververse. As for Basso Profundo, well, his inclusion was a deliberate change from the original comic...and again, time will tell what connection he has to certain other antagonists.
As stated elsewhere, the next chapter is slated for release at the end of July. I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll have the following chapter ready for release at the end of August - already got a start on it, so we'll see.
Great start to this story, and I will be definitely looking forward to seeing how things progress from here on out.
(I'd say more, but I feel a bit like most of that ground has already been well trodden by other commenters thus far.
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Glad that you've enjoyed the first chapter. And yeah, I think most of the good stuff has already been discussed, at least for this chapter.
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Well... if it helps, speaking for myself alone, I don't mind such appreciation for continuity in the least. In fact, I'd say you strike a better balance than me, as while I haven't gotten that far ahead, I just may be accidentally invoking a bit too much Continuity Lockout the way I have things planned (not necessarily just for works in the MLP fandom).
I see what you mean on what Twilight told Silver Spoon... and for what it's worth, I do feel you struck a good balance. And I do agree with you on the assessment of what would happen if it was known the Elements were returned, especially given that Discord is on the loose (granted, he's starting to reform, but as Applejack put it, 'he ain't that reformed', at least for now, and what he did to Quiver in Contemplating Chaos only reinforces that).
I see what you mean on the angle you're pushing regarding the scholars. That one is somewhat less incensing, if still wrong, but from the vibe Luna is conveying, they could still try to be more polite. And those are certainly good reasons for her to seek out Cattail. Also, I had no idea that 'ivory tower' was an expression until now. Thanks for letting me know.
I get you. Absolute certainty isn't needed in this case, and if I was trying to convey I thought so, I apologize. There's certainly nothing wrong with both scenarios being on the table.
As for Ivory Tower... well... I don't know what road you'll take Neighsay through in the Quiververse, but speaking for his canon self, Ivory Tower comes off as worse than him. At least with canon Neighsay, one could see where he was coming from, even if his actual approach is wrong and his prejudices also are. In the Quiververse, all I know so far is what he did in Scars of the Sun about putting segregation into place, which isn't yet enough to brand him as worse than his canon self for me.
I love Stygian too, and I agree on the raw deal he got. I guess at least it can be said everything turned out well enough for him in canon... but he still spent over a thousand years in Limbo possessed by the Pony of Shadows. Looking forward to seeing where you go with both Stygian and Basso Profondo (as well as the Pillars in general) and to the rest of Legends of Magic also.
As always, good luck on your writing, as well as on everything else in general. :)
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A good balance when it comes to continuity is definitely something to be careful about. Gets easier with practice, though.
You're not wrong. If a historian were to meet someone who lived in a different era, they'd want to ask them about how things were and what they were like, especially if there wasn't a language barrier. There's a reason why people who lived through major historical events still get interviewed about them. And they'd definitely want to consider what they say rather than simply dismiss them. Alas, as I said, people can be stubborn and narrow-minded, even if it's to their detriment.
In many ways, Ivory Tower is meant to be worse than Neighsay, for reasons that I hope are already becoming clear. And as for those segregation policies, well...wait and see there. What's in place for Indianapoloosa might not be the norm across all of Equestria.
Appreciated. Life's getting busy again, but we'll see what happens.
And it seems we are learning a bit more about the legends.
I will admit I got a bit surprised that Stygian got help from a dragon, but it is plausible that even back then some dragons were not basically adult versions of what Garble and his friends were (or at least seemed to be, although I acknowledge that the admittedly unforeshadowed - to use a mild term - Season 9 reveals regarding Garble's true nature may not take place in the Quiververse). One way or the other, good on Knuckerbocker for giving Stygian a ride, and I will confess I felt for him when he needed to be so conscientious of how ponies would react to his presence, even if it showed him as ultimately responsible. At least he could still help Stygian with the first part of his quest, though.
Speaking of help, it's nice that Twilight still has plenty of places where to look for it, even with so many of her friends having other obligations. It's a nice way of showing how in a sense friendship is becoming a bigger part of her life (which I suppose is fitting, but it's also just nice in general, as having good friends is nice). I will admit seeing the bridge realm and Sunset was unexpected, and seeing human!Vinyl even more so, but I enjoyed seeing them both, and I like how their presence allowed for exposition on the other Pillars' legends. Though I have to say, did I feel for Quiver when he pointed out what Bitterhoof's reaction to Somnambula's story would be. Poor chap...
On a lighter note, though, I liked the tie-in to one of the Vignettes that was seen in this chapter! Like a certain hippogriff would say (and promising I won't make a habit out of this):
Still on both continuity and help, I liked the callback to Lyra's experiences and Moondancer's makeover from A Mad Pony in a Box, as well as how Twilight sought them out for hel. It's also nice to see that Sunrunner and Sour Sweet will help as well (although the touch of paranoia in Twilight's question to Sunrunner was kind of sad, in the sense it's sad it was even needed in the first place). As far as help goes, though... I confess I'm surprised that Sunburst is being called for help. Granted, it may not be for this specific subject, but whether he's being asked to help with this or something else, I confess I'm currently not seeing why, or what it could be in the latter case. That said, I admit that maybe I'm currently not remembering some sort of detail from A Mad Pony in a Box (which if memory serves me right was Sunburst's debut in the Quiververse) that could be tied to both his first appearance and to the request for his assistance, other than possibly the prowess he showed when he helped Shining Armor.
If it helps, though, I have no objections to his presence. I like Sunburst, and I'm sure it will be nice to see him in this story, whatever exactly he ends up doing.
Speaking of doing, though... I wonder what our temporary pony quarter will do in the past to deal with the very big group of very angry wild animals. I did double check on how it was done in the original comic, but I accept it may be different here, and if so, I am curious to see what route you will choose to follow.
All in all, a great continuation! Still loving this story, and still looking forward to the next chapters!
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I admit to slightly selfish reasons for bringing Knuckerbocker into the story - he was there mostly to accelerate the plot. Stygian would've realistically spent weeks, maybe months, traversing the distance between his village and Rockhoof's, and flying on the back of a dragon sped things up significantly.
Twilight's learned the value of seeking out help, if only to get a perspective that's outside the box. It certainly doesn't hurt that Moondancer is as competent a researcher as she is, or that Lyra's been proven right here and there. As for poor Quiver, he might be out of his father's sight, but Bitterhoof's shadow looms large, and will for some time.
The paranoia might be sad, but Sunrunner's gonna be the last to disapprove of it. As for Sunburst's inclusion, that will become clearer in the next chapter.
Again, you'll have to wait for the next chapter. Glad that you're continuing to enjoy the ride, and hopefully, the next chapter will be out by the end of August.
If it helps, I get what you mean. Fast travel mechanics are something I'm trying to figure out for my own fics, when I'm not just figuring out how to readapt a given story so that it realistically takes place over the days or weeks it should take to travel such distances rather than the hours at most that it seems to last in canon.
Valid points on Twilight and Quiver both. Hopefully regarding the latter, Bitterhoof's shadow will grow smaller and dimmer over time.
While I do get that Sunrunner doesn't begrudge Twilight her paranoia, it's still sad that it needs to happen... but at the same time, good on Sunrunner for understanding. And looking forward to seeing what Sunburst's purpose will be.
Good luck regarding the next chapter, and as always, good luck on everything else too. :)
Wait, that means that Sunburst is Sunrunner's cousin as well. Why didn't she know him, or at least about him? Does it have anything to do with the apparent falling out between Sunset's mother and Sunrunner's alluded to in previous stories, or something else?
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My thinking is that where Sunrunner is Sunset's maternal cousin, Sunburst is her paternal cousin. And I intend to elaborate on why Sunset didn't bring up the connection in later installments.
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Ah. Okay then. Though with that in mind, and considering Sunset's past, it wouldn't surprise me if the reason Sunset never said anything about Sunburst is that she didn't know about him.
Well... it seems the learning from last chapter is still going on, not only in the past but in the present. And both remain very well portrayed, although I will confess that I find the one in the past slightly less peasant, considering we are already beginning to witness the sentiment that lead to Stygian looking for a warm welcome in a place where he really shouldn't have and becoming something he was not meant to be.
Sunburst's presence certainly makes sense now, and indeed, it looks like a vital role to be had in a mission like this. And the way you portrayed his relationship with Twilight (or I guess the lack of it would be a more apt description) makes sense given both the circumstances and Twilight's general indifference towards most ponies at the time, and was well done also. And while their interactions have been brief, it's good to see them developing something of a bond. Hopefully that will lead to something similar to what they shared in canon at a later point.
Less sweet was seeing what I already mentioned of Stygian starting to feel left out. While it made sense in context and you still portrayed it well in that they're not actively shunning him, it's still sad to see. I feel for him already, and probably will feel even more once his fall fully hits the bottom, so to speak.
And on the present day, it's also sad - albeit less so on an 'absolute level', so to speak - to see more details about Sunburst's ordeal once he went to Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns. While things did turn out relatively alright for him in the end, and at least both his parents still alive (not all Sunbursts across fanfics are that lucky) it still clearly wasn't a pleasant experience to go through, especially when also factoring in his regret at his ultimately ended friendship with Starlight.
That said, meaning this in the best way, kudos to both you and him for both acknowledging that he made a mistake and showing that he does care about Starlight and does miss her. I felt that was a bit of a failing in canon, especially earlier on after his reunion with Starlight, because while she was very clearly shown to miss him, he seemed rather apathetic and indifferent for her supposed best friend earlier on. Of course, none of that excuses what Starlight did in canon, as well as what she already did in the Quiververse going by one of the Vignettes, but all the same, kudos to you for portraying that friendship as more two-sided and showing he does miss her also.
On a nicer front, it's nice that him and Sunrunner found out they're family. I look forward to seeing the bond both of them will build, as well as to any future interactions either of them have with Sunset, whether that happens in this story or not. And on a bit of a side note, I confess the fact both of them unwittingly borrowed one of Rainbow Dash's catchprhrases got a few chuckles out of me. Wonder how she would have reacted if she had been there to hear them.
Still on the term of nice fronts, it's good that the conflict with the dragons was solved without any spilled blood and with a good outcome for both sides. Apparently Stygian getting help from Knockerbocker was a good thing indeed. Hopefully nothing much in the way of trouble will get in the soon to be Pillars' way in future chapters... although from what I remember of the comics, hoping for such a thing is a long shot.
And as far as families go... while learning about Flash Magnus' family ties with Flash Sentry was, for lack of a better term, relatively expected - even if welcome to see, as I do like the idea - learning that Magnus has similar ties with Rainbow Dash was quite more of a surprise. Wondering again about Rainbow Dash's reaction to something, I can only imagine how she will react when she learns that particular fact. Probably say that her family tree just got something like 220% cooler, if I had to guess (because I doubt a mere 20% is enough to convey how cool she'd find being related to her favorite hero).
Learning about Celestia and Luna's family was interesting as well, and unexpected on some levels too. I wouldn't have imagined they had so many siblings, but it does make sense given the 'analogous time period', as people and ponies had more children then, and it's true that Blueblood's claim as their nephew had to come from somewhere. And on the other side of the family, him also being a descendant of Princess Platinum both makes sense and is a nice idea (I will admit I have seen it elsewhere, but I do think it's a nice idea, and have no objections to its use). That said, I confess my biggest point of curiosity regarding this chapter is the mention of the 'other oldest brother' that is specifically named here, as I recognize that name as a deleted character from the movie. I can only imagine that referencing him will have ramifications later on...
On a more immediate level, though, I'm also curious about what exactly will be shown in the Restricted Section, as well as to how the unveiling of Lyra's repressed memories will go and the effect that it will have. And as far as the past goes, I'm also curious on what other surprises await Stygian and his group, both current members and those that will still join.
All in all, another great chapter! I'm still loving this story, and am still very much looking forward to what's to come!
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I honestly felt that it made perfect sense to bring Sunburst into this, both because it felt unfair to totally strip him of his part in researching the Pillars and because he seemed like exactly the sort of pony to be interested in such a project. Also, I like Sunburst, and I felt like this was a perfectly sensible interpretation of things from his perspective regarding him losing touch with Starlight and his time at the SfGU. You're right, though - Starlight doesn't have a good excuse for what she's done, in canon or in my stuff. Even if she does think that she's done something good.
And one note of clarification - Sunburst is related to Sunset Shimmer, but he isn't related to Sunrunner. In my mind, Sunburst is Sunset's cousin on her father's side of the family, whereas Sunrunner is Sunset's maternal cousin. No guarantee that Sunset even knows about Sunburst, though, and that's something I'll elaborate on later. And honestly, I don't think Rainbow Dash has exclusive rights to that phrase.
As for Stygian? Yes, the poor guy is feeling more and more left out as the Pillars assemble, and sadly, his fall will still come...but as events will show, perhaps it might be delayed for a time. A big part of Stygian's fall was, from my perspective, due to him not feeling as valued as the main group of Pillars despite his contributions, and how Star Swirl handled things did little to discourage that feeling. Pay close attention, and you might see signs of how things went a little differently in the Quiververse. And his meeting Knuckerbocker did indeed have some knock-on effects that have clearly helped beyond speeding things up.
Admittedly, making Flash Magnus a potential ancestor of Rainbow Dash is an embellishment on my part. I'm looking forward to her finding out about the possibility, however, as she'll definitely be thrilled. And where Celestia and Luna's family tree is concerned, you're right to suspect that Cosmos being mentioned will come up later, though don't expect me to follow those initial ideas perfectly. And don't forget, Celestia and Luna do have other known living relatives.
Everything with the Restricted Section was initially intended to be part of this chapter, but as it was running long, I've opted to move it to the next one. Regardless, it's written, and I've no doubt it will give you stuff to think about once Chapter Four is released. And hopefully, I'll have that out by the end of the month.
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I get what you mean. And as I said, I do agree it makes sense.
Thanks for the clarifcation on Sunburst, Sunset and Sunrunner. I'd say that Sunburst and Sunrunner could still technically be cousins by marriage of sorts, but I do also get how that would be reaching, so to speak. And I do know she doesn't have exclusive rights to that phrase, but I couldn't help but notice the similarity and 'imagine the humor', so to speak.
Thanks for the heads-up about Stygian as well. I'll be doing my best to pay attention to the differences from canon.
I look forward to seeing how Rainbow Dash will react to that, as well as to learning how Cosmos will come up again. I confess I wasn't thinking of Celestia and Luna having other living relatives (other than Blueblood, and I guess Cadence would also count) but it does make sense (and I will plead guilty to potentially not recalling some crucial element of the Quiververse at the moment, although I do remember at least some of the occasions where they discussed the potential extent of their surviving progeny, so to speak).
I look forward to seeing that section and the rest of Chapter Four once they come out. :) Wishing you the best of lucks, both with writing it and with everything else.
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Much appreciated. Fingers crossed that I'll be able to get at least a little bit done for it by the end of this week.
Glad to have finally caught up to this chapter. Apologies for the delay; I'd have gotten to it sooner, but I had a nasty cold last week and I wasn't in the best state for focusing on reading and reviewing.
This was good! I really enjoyed seeing the various characters show up throughout the chapter's portions in the present (did not expect to see EG Vinyl Scratch pop up, but hey, not at all complaining ^_^), and the flashbacks with Stygian and Rockhoof were quite enjoyable as well.
Looking forward to catching up on the next chapter, I can assure you of that.
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I understand. Glad that you're feeling better.
I'll be the first to admit, EG Vinyl showing up was a random choice, but I wanted to have her come back, if only to help set up some stuff for further down the road. Plus she made for a fun Watson. And I can't take credit for the content of the flashbacks - I just adapted what was in the original comics.
Looking forward to your thoughts on the third chapter.
All right, there was a lot of learning going on in this chapter, but I enjoyed myself throughout. It was fun seeing the assembly of characters in the present-day sections of this installment (didn't expect the revelations regarding some of the lineage/family trees, but not complaining either), and as before, I enjoyed the material in the flashback sections as well.
Glad to have finally caught up with this story. Definitely looking forward to seeing where the plot progresses next!
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Glad that you enjoyed it. I'm just glad that no one's objecting to the fanon that I've implemented here.
I'm looking forward to where the plot progresses next as well, and not just because I'm writing it. Hopefully, I'll be able to meet my deadline.
Glad to have read this. I definitely enjoyed a lot of the material at work with the Canterlot Library (I got a kick out of the reference to "Point of No Return" XD) and, as always, the flashbacks were a lot of fun too.
And, as before, that concluding piece with Ivory Tower definitely holds ominous connotations. These guys are seriously creepy with that catchphrase of theirs. o_0
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They're meant to be creepy. And trust me, it's just gonna get worse.
Well... it seems that both the present and the past threads of the storyline keep unraveling... and I have to say, both are being very enjoyable to read.
Stygian's concern over his village, while sad in that it's unfortunate he needs to be concerned, was nice to read, and even if the Pillars later on do end up more or less casting him aside (before actively shunning him later on) it's still heartwarming - not for the first time - how so far they're all so willing to help him with no strings attached and out of genuine concern for his plight. While certainly none of them can be called perfect (at least given what we know of how they act in the future), so far they're all very much worthy of the title of 'hero', and I have no doubt that Mistmane will be too (Star Swirl is still a bit of a toss up, I have to say). I couldn't help but be sad at Somnambula keeping so much hope here when later on Stygian, according to her canon words, ends up dashing even her hope of saving him. Hopefully the Quiververse will at least end as well as canon did on that front.
In the present day, it was nice to see that Lyra and Twilight are getting quite a bit more light shed on Equestria's history and government, as well as Lyra's predicament. I like the way you portrayed Equestria's shift to a constitutional diarchy as per Celestia's story, most particularly the nod to Daybreaker, who twisted and megalomaniac as she was, was definitely an impressive villain for the brief screentime she got. The explanation of what happened to a certain memory-wiping artifact was unexpected, but it made sense, and it's nice to at least have Sunset spared from this particular spot of future trouble in the Quiververse, although I wonder what sort of impact this will have (and maybe already had) on Wallflower and her predicament. Hopefully she will be shown some other way that she's also important in the Quiververse (though for the record, while I will admit I like Wallflower even as I don't feel her approach was the right one, my hopes are by no means intended to convey suggestions, much less anything more extreme, and I will respect your decision to do or not do anything with her regardless of what it turns out to be).
The extra bonding between Sunrunner and Sunburst was nice to read as well, and Sunburst genuinely wanting to meet Sunset was quite a heartwarming element. I admit I can relate to him there, as I only met several of my more distant family members in my twenties (and I have to admit, I feel more distant from them than Sunburst seems to feel from Sunset despite never meeting her). Hopefully Sunburst and Sunset will get along if he agrees to the meeting Sunrunner intends to set up.
Less nice was reading about the ordeal Celestia and Luna went through in the past (even as I knew of it from reading the comics), as well as Celestia's admission that she was a bully. While I applaud her for owning up to it and working to become a better pony (even if the effort was not entirely successful), I can still see why those would be unpleasant memories for more than one reason. That said, at least things are better now, and they seem set to stay that way as far as they are concerned.
All that said... the least nice part of the chapter as far as pleasantness goes (though it's as well written as the rest) is Ivory Tower's meeting with a certain stallion who, if I'm connecting the dots right, was already seen in Tales from a Double Date. At least it's nice to put a name to the face, even if none of the ponies in this chapter's interaction or the one that took place in that story is (or was) nice in the least. Seriously... they're unsettling.
Still, the unsettling vibe is not only clearly intended, but greatly conveyed, and they're certainly shaping up to be not only very well executed but very unsettling villains. While I worry for the heroes and want them to prevail, they've so far definitely given me reason to think the heroes are in danger. I only hope they'll get through it as alright as possible. And while I know it's still a long ways off, I look forward to Ivory Tower and most ponies of her group (the only exception so far being Twist's aunt and a certain pair of unicorn twins) all being taught a very clear lesson, especially if Pinkie learns that not only they're part of an organization that gives one of her favorite words a very bad name, but also that they place Pinkie herself in another organization that labels her as part of one of her least favorite words. Seriously, given how she'll likely be feeling, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them begged to be banished to the Moon.
All in all, yet another great chapter! Still loving this story, and still looking forward to how it will keep unfolding!
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Glad to know that you're continuing to enjoy the story.
Time will tell how things go for the Quiververse so far as Stygian's break from the Pillars. I will say this for now, however - it took a much longer time to happen compared to canon. Canon suggested that Stygian's fall was fairly early into Celestia and Luna's reign, though here, the final break came much later, and came with a number of mitigating factors.
As the old saying goes, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Celestia knew this, and the move towards a constitutional diarchy made perfect sense in that regard. She still has some power within the government, of course, but she is (theoretically) kept in balance by two other branches, not unlike the President of the United States...though as I said, theoretically. And as for Wallflower, well, let's just say I plan on addressing her in the future.
Again, time will tell if Sunburst ever meets Sunset Shimmer. Odds are good that it will happen, but the timing is still very much up in the air.
One thing that I wanted to prevent that we saw in the series when the focus was on Celestia and Luna was them harshly bickering and fighting among themselves. Yes, siblings bicker and fight and argue (at least, the lucky ones do), but they both know the worst-case scenario of the pair failing to work out their interpersonal issues. Hence, them communicating more. Wouldn't surprise me if they're seeing a therapist either...though Celestia might be missing more than a few appointments.
You're correct - Sterling Aide is the same member of SMILE who appeared at the end in TfaDD. And you're right that they're meant to be unsettling, for reasons that will become clearer as time goes on, along with a great many things involving the organization and its machinations. As for what will happen, well, anyone who knows my preferences knows that I don't approve of what SMILE's up to. It's not a matter of if the organization will be exposed and put down with extreme prejudice, it's a matter of when. I'll remain mum, however, beyond the certainty that there is a plan in place.
Here's hoping that you enjoy what's yet to come. We're about halfway through the story at this point, and what comes next is something I've been looking forward to for some time.
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Looking forward to seeing the full details of Stygian's fall (and hopefully, of his reascension as well).
On that saying, I will admit I don't necessarily hold it as being an absolute truth, but I do certainly agree with the likelihood of it, and even if it isn't true in Celestia's case, I don't fault her for implementing such a system, and there is nothing wrong with giving the citizens an actual voice, so to speak. That said, governments seem to have a tendency to be an eternal struggle between choosing the right system and choosing the right people to run it, because while it's true that some systems legitimately shouldn't be used, period, twisted and self-centered people can bend any system to their ends. That said, I don't think your Celestia or Luna (or Cadence, for that matter) have done anything that could be considered unforgivable and revealing of an inherently evil nature, even if they have made mistakes.
Looking forward to seeing what you do with Wallflower, as well as with Sunset and Sunburst, whether they meet or not.
I'll admit I'm not the best person to talk about sibling relationships (I'm not an only child in the strictest sense, but my sister and I only share our mother and have a large gap, so maybe my relationship with her isn't a good example of a conventional one) but I like to think that at least some can just get along genuinely well no strings attached, although I understand why conflict could happen, and at least Celestia and Luna seem to be dealing with theirs well overall these days.
Thanks for confirming that I got Sterling Aide's identity right. :) And if it helps, I don't fault you for your view of SMILE. I have yet to get my hands on the actual books, but from the synopses on the wiki I already get your sentiments on them and agree with them.
Looking forward to seeing your plan in action, as well as to what's to come next in this story. :)
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Hopefully, your wait won't be very long. As previously said, Chapter Five is outlined, and all I need is the time to sit down and write it. And with that commission knocked out, I have one less thing slowing me down.
That was a good story goodluck with the rest of it. Those SMILE ponies sound more and more like a crazy cult instead of rogue government officials with every appearance.
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Thanks. And you're not too far off the mark.
A most excellent chapter, as always, Echo.
Loved it!
Now to business:
Aaaand one of my least favorite ponies from FiM enters the picture. Wonderful.
And he certainly didn't do anything to change my initial opinion of him from back then, either.
Stiffnecked jerk.
*sighs* You would think that when you've got two ponies who lived through that back then that the idiots would shut their arrogant, ignorant yaps and defer to the ones who know just what the bloody hell that they're talking about!!!
Sheeesh!
*takes a deep breath*
*ahem!*
Sorry 'bout that, folks.
Ivory Tower, Neighsay; etc.; are NOT doing a whole heck of a lot to raise my already low opinions of them.
And likely won't, either.
Still, I'm looking forward to the lot of them getting their well-deserved comeuppances when the time comes, and I know that you'll make it a doozy, Echo.
And on THAT note:
very much looking forward to it, and to see what happens next!
Awesome, and looking forward to it!
Indeed.
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Yeah, Neighsay has hardly endeared himself to anyone, has he? And I fear that his introduction into the Quiververse isn't too far away from his appearance in canon. Then again, canon showed that as bad as he was, there were ponies who were far worse. And the Quiververse is no different. Time will tell indeed regarding how he fares, but I can assure you right now that before this story is finished, Neighsay will find himself facing an argument against his policies and beliefs that he can't really argue against. Part of it, in fact, is already written. Suffice it to say, Neighsay should take great comfort in the fact that he hasn't crossed paths with Quiver Quill yet.
As for Ivory Tower...well, like I said, there are worse ponies out there than Neighsay.
11404110 No, he definitely hasn't.
*nods*
That it did, and that is true. (Kinda why I've never liked him.)
Which is cool, and why I like the Quiververse so much.
Oooooo, color me intrigued, good to hear, and I can't wait to read it!
Yes. Yes, he should... mainly because if I know Quiver like I think I do, he'd have ripped the guy a new one.
Still might, if they ever DO meet at some point in the QV.
Oooo.
You said "yet".
I'm sensing that they will at some point along the way.
Yeah, you did, and yes, there definitely are.
Sadly enough.
That was a good chapter goodluck with the next one.
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Thanks. I'm happy to say that work has already started on the next chapter. Got my fingers crossed that more will be done before the end of the day.
Glad to have settled in and caught up on this.
I really enjoyed this as always. Particular standouts included the opening sequence with Sunset Shimmer; the visit to Canterlot (I got a guilty laugh out of the quick aversion of "Secrets and Pies" - I love that episode, so even if it'll never come to pass here, the acknowledgement of it made me smile); the breakfast at Canterlot... and even the bit finally introducing the beloved Chancellor himself. What a card, that guy.
I also enjoyed the final scene involving Echo and Sterling Silver. It's a little touch but I enjoyed the reference to Silver Spoon in their conversation prior to the plot-important bit... I always thought Silver's background had interesting potential to contrast against Diamond Tiara's. (My own headcanon was that I saw her father as being in banking, and her mother as a jeweler or somesuch.) But I like the idea presented for the Quiververse, for sure.
As always, solid work, and looking forward to seeing where things go from here.
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I personally don't hate the episode in question, but it does have a plot that could've been readily solved if everyone involved had just said something. It's a silly cartoon plot that's been done repeatedly, and while that's not a bad thing, it wasn't one that I wanted to repeat.
And yes, Chancellor Neighsay has rather endeared himself, hasn't he? As much as I've tried to stay true to his character, I think I've succeeded a little too well. All the better for what's to come, I suppose.
I'm personally rather fond of the idea of a person of wealth running a small business where he finds items of good quality and resells them. You don't become rich without recognizing the value in something, or someone. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if he's got at least one banker in the family, and if you don't mind, I'm happy to borrow that idea for Silver's mom.
Fingers crossed that you don't have too long to wait and that you enjoy what's coming next.
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Yeah, that's quite fair, and I understand that. No criticisms here. ^^
As I said before, I look forward to seeing what's to come. Even where it concerns Neighsay.
Sounds like a solid idea to me. And I have no issue with you borrowing my headcanon for Silver Spoon's mom.
Yep.
Although while I know you've got Vignette #20 up, I don't think #19 is yet.
Can't wait to read that one when it goes up.
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I haven't even written it yet, unfortunately. Looking forward to doing so, however, as well to getting it out there.
11405057 Yeah, that'd be why.
Cool to know, m' friend.
No hurry, though; take your time.
As I've often said, your stories are WELL worth waiting for.
Interesting developments all around.
I have to admit, I was a bit surprised to see Sunset and the other Rainbooms, but I certainly have no objections to that surprise, as I like them all and am happy to know what they're up to. And that was an interesting detail about the 'disassociation', so to speak, between Basso Profundo and certain three familiar faces who ended up having two different origins in the comics, the second of which retconned the first. I was wondering how you would handle those three faces, and I have to say, I like the answer. :) I do confess I prefer the second backstory, but I still like the solution you found so you could follow the first one, and have no actual objections to the first backstory either, much less to you or any other fan liking the first backstory better. Now the only questions I have left are exactly how different Basso is from Star Swirl's second siren foes, and whether in the Quiververse he sent them forward in time (like the first comic hinted) or they are actually centuries old despite looking like teenagers (like a significant amount of fans believes).
Another surprise was the encounter between Rainbow Dash and Indigo Zap, but it was definitely a welcome one too, as I liked their interaction. I kind of worry about what kind of relationship Indigo Zap and Lightning Dust have, though, if Indigo Zap will so readily and openly admit that her sister had it coming. I'm not saying she didn't, mind you... but it was still a touch surprising. And on a similar front, I wonder how dear old grandpa feels considering his recommendation was a huge waste at best and made him look bad at worst, and by extent, how both Lightning Dust and Indigo Zap will feel if Rarity Investigates occurs in a comparable way in the Quiververse.
But I'm getting ahead of myself. What matters now is that the two of them are getting along well, that Rainbow Dash aced her test, and also that she and Pinkie came to an understanding over the whole series of pie incidents. Good on Pinkie for being so kind and understanding, though, and on Rainbow Dash for still coming clear about it relatively fast, even if she did need Indigo Zap to intercept the pie in order for that to happen. I confess I didn't particularly mind the original episode as it happened in canon, but I'm also ambivalent on it no longer happening in the Quiververse. Hopefully from here on Rainbow Dash will simply enjoy the cakes Pinkie will make for her, not to mention that the hamster of Cheerilee's class and Tank should have considerably less stomach crises.
Though speaking of indispositions... I hope that despite of Luna's comment, neither she nor anyone else actually get sick over Neighsay's visit. I don't know how things went when she returned, but judging from Luna's reaction to his visit, they didn't exactly hit it off, which is a valid portrayal, considering Neighsay can be rather closed-minded. That said, he easily wins when compared to Ivory Tower, given how he ultimately did relent when Twilight explained herself (even if rather stiffly and in a way that conveyed he's not willing to 'fully give', so to speak) and did convey actual gratitude to her and her friends for their efforts in saving Equestria, which is more than a lot of ponies do, in canon or in the Quiververse. That does make sense, considering that in canon he did see the light in School Raze, and even in School Daze one could sort of see where he was coming from, given that at least some of the students were of races known to have been hostile to ponies recently, and most of the leaders didn't exactly help their case by wanting to start wars over the missing students without hearing out the ponies (and ironically, the only one who wanted diplomacy was also from the most openly hostile race to Equestria in recent history). I'm not saying that makes it right, or justified, but it does explain the matter... and while he is confirmed to have gone a bit farther here with his politics in Scars of the Sun, I still don't think he crossed the Moral Event Horizon. Not yet, at least, and I do hope he won't.
Going back (to the past)... I have to confess I wasn't expecting that both Mistmane and Star Swirl would be found in such quick succession, but there's nothing wrong with it by any means, and it's certainly good that the group is already all together, even if Star Swirl is coming across as considerably grumpier than I remembered him being from the show or from Reflections - Quiververse Edition. I can only imagine the fact Celestia and Luna are still young and at odds gets on his nerves more... but still, he could have been more polite, and poor Stygian, even if he's happy that he can actually start to stop Basso Profundo, clearly got a very sad surprise when he learned from personal experience the issues with meeting one's heroes.
I have to say, though, as far as surprises go... the biggest one would have to be in the ending. I did figure we'd see Quiver's find in the Quiververse at some point, but I had absolutely no idea that it would be this soon! I'm certainly not complaining, mind you. If anything, I'm even more hyped, not only for what it looks like may happen soon, but also for what other differences there may be from canon, especially once other familiar faces start popping up.
All in all, yet another great chapter! I'd even go as far as to rate this chapter my favorite one of Legends of Magic so far! Very much looking forward to the next.
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That little segment with Sunset and the Rainbooms at the start was one part timeline establishment, one part clarification regarding the Dazzlings, and one part setup for stuff later in the story. The setup for later will get paid off by the end of this one, don't worry. And as for the Dazzlings themselves, I won't be elaborating too much for now, but I can assure you that all will eventually be revealed where they're concerned. There is a plan!
I've been planning for a long time to have Rainbow Dash meet Indigo Zap, though I'd initially planned on it happening much later. Circumstances, however, conspired that led to them meeting now, which allowed me to finally indulge in a small dig at my own tendency towards familial connections. In case you hadn't noticed, I've had several occasions where Dashie's found out that one pony or another ended up being a cousin of some sort to somepony else that she knows (Pinkie Pie to Applejack, Sunrunner to Sunset Shimmer, Sour Sweet to Quiver Quill), and that ignores the ones she doesn't know about just yet. Her finding out that Indigo is Lightning Dust's sister is as much a surprise about them being related as it is about how. As for all the crazy family stuff, well, that will be covered eventually...as well the Quiververse's version of the events of Rarity Investigates.
But yes, Rainbow Dash and Indigo Zap have gotten off on the right hoof, which is a good thing for a number of reasons (some of which are a ways down the road). And as for averting Secrets and Pies, I didn't hate the episode either, but it seems unlikely that something like this hadn't occurred sooner...and honestly, if it hadn't been Indigo Zap, it would've been Quiver Quill or Sunrunner.
Luna claiming that she had lost her appetite was really more a polite way of getting out of the room before she decided to do something unpleasant to Neighsay. Let's not forget that, a thousand years previous, somepony making comments like Neighsay's would find themselves in rather dire straights, and that's if they were lucky. She's already expressed a low opinion of academics, given how dismissive they've been regarding not only her views but also her very existence right up until her return, and Neighsay is a rather prominent figurehead for all of that. Neighsay, for his part, doesn't quite see how he's done wrong, and as Sunny Flare's admitted, he is operating with incomplete information. But as canon showed, he can be encouraged to change his viewpoints, given the right circumstances. Whether those circumstances will come by the end of this story is something you'll have to wait and see on.
I think part of it is not being used to youthful exuberance and having to put up with such great quantities of it that's prompted Star Swirl to be somewhat grumpy. You are right, however, that Stygian's going to have a poor time of it, though things are different from canon and will be different going forward.
And speaking of differences in canon...Quiver being the one to find Star Swirl's journal rather than Sunburst is very much a deliberate change on my part. Don't get me wrong, I love Sunburst and he's still playing a role in all of this, but Quiver was just in the right place and the right time. And don't be too surprised if he ends up taking on the role of somepony else's part in all of this.
I'm looking forward to the next as well, and very much eager to resume work on the next chapter. My fingers are tightly crossed that said work will continue very soon, though alas, work's decided to throw me a curveball and shift things around again. Still, I'm confident that I'll make my planned release date.
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Well, if I may say so, I never doubted there was a plan. ;) That only makes me more eager to see it, though.
Rainbow Dash meeting Indigo Zap certainly worked out very well here. Looking forward to see what comes of it, and of the Quiververse's version of Rarity Investigates, especially if Rainbow Dash learns of Indigo Zap's and Lightning Dust's family connection before then.
Yes, I get what you mean. Even considering that the show took place over less time than its duration in real life (although perhaps not that much less if the amount of Hearth's Warming Eves is anything to go by) that's a bit long for Rainbow Dash disposing of Pinkie's pies not to have been noticed. And for what it's worth, while I don't object to Indigo Zap having been the one stopping it, I have no doubt that Quiver or Sunrunner would have done a good job, both at the pie interception and at being the voice of reason.
I see what you mean about the reason's for Luna's opinion on Neighsay, and that makes perfect sense. And it's true what you and Sunny Flare said that he doesn't know everything. Hopefully he'll change his views at some point in the Quiververse too, even if not at the end of this story.
I see what you mean on the reasons for Star Swirl's grumpiness too. Even if one is used to youthful exuberance, it can be draining if it's too much or if it's the wrong kind (as in, actual malicious treatment towards caretakers by youths who supposedly should nevertheless be old enough to know right from wrong), so for one who isn't used to it, it could be even worse. I feel sorry for Stygian, though. Hopefully things will look up for him eventually.
Don't worry, I didn't think you had anything against Sunburst when you made Quiver the one finding the journal instead, and I don't think I will feel so either when he ends up taking the role of somepony else in an upcoming event.
And well... I know I say this a lot, but know I mean it as always: fingers crossed for you, on writing and all other fronts. Take care. :)
As always, solid work with this chapter.
I know I said this elsewhere, but I got a kick out of Quiver Quill getting to put Neighsay in his place for a bit. I'm sure he spoke for quite a few audience members (in-universe and out) in that moment. :raritytwink: (Forgot to say so earlier, but I liked the little reference to Neighsay's "zero tolerance program" and its test run in Indianappaloosa. I immediately thought that Quiver and Sunrunner would have words for him about that, so good foreshadowing there! XD)
Speaking a little more seriously, I liked the flashback scenes - which I know are based from the comic telling - but I liked this chapter's particularly for the look into Stygian's thoughts, especially in the scene where Starswirl puts him on the spot about what to do regarding Basso Profundo.
Believe me when I say that I will definitely be looking forward to the next chapter, and seeing how everything comes together therein.
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And as I said elsewhere, Quiver crossing paths with Neighsay is something that I had been long looking forward to depicting. And as I have also said elsewhere, Quiver's going to elaborate on his thoughts in the next chapter, and Neighsay's gonna get a lot to think about, both in regards to the zero tolerance program and in regards to some of his own thoughts and beliefs.
Stygian, unfortunately, has got the short end of the stick here. He's traveled across Equestria, and while he's faced a slightly easier time of it here than he did in the comics, he's still faced a number of trials and dangers, even as the group has grown. And despite succeeding with all of that, he's finally met Star Swirl, a personal idol...and the stallion is outright dismissive of him. Sure, his village stands a good chance of being saved, but a little bit of acknowledgement or recognition would be welcome. And even if it's going to take much longer to happen than it did in canon, the poor guy's still going to become the Pony of Shadows. While he still fell to temptation, at least part of Stygian's fall is Star Swirl's responsibility.
Glad that you're looking forward to it. I'm hoping to have it done by Christmas, but I know full well how dangerous such a statement can be.
Well... this story has been great so far, but if I ever were to pick a favorite chapter when it's done, this will definitely be a contender!
The beginning with Pixie Dust arriving at Golden Oak Library to talk to those already there is the perfect mix of low-key and the build-up to something greater, and I like both how Pixie Dust introduces the subject that the Pony of Shadows is real (fitting, considering where she was born) and how Quiver shows up with his very recent purchase for Twilight to check. Everypony including him is certainly very heartwarming to read, and both a contrast and a parallel to how we see Stygian being treated in the flashbacks (because while it's true the other Pillars seem to hold him in higher regard than in the series, Star Swirl is very much dismissive of him, even if strangely he seems to not be quite as much as in the series proper).
I have to say I don't fault Twilight's friends for the Neighsay roast they deliver, so to speak... and that's especially the case after he brings up his zero tolerance policy from all the way back Scars of the Quill.
Honestly, why Neighsay considers that the pilot program in Indianapoloosa showed some clear merit is beyond me, because neither Scars of the Quill nor Scars of the Sun showed it being good for anything but get those who defended themselves punished while the real troublemakers and bullies were free to get away with even more. Either there were plenty of legitimate success stories in schools we didn't get to see, or Neighsay is even more short-sighted than I worry he is (considering his demeaning of Luna, it seems likely to be the latter).
One way or the other, was it enjoyable to have Quiver calling him out! Very good on him for having the backbone to do so, especially when he's fully aware of who Neighsay is. I will admit I'm not sure I would have been as brave if I was in his hoofshoes, but that's entirely to my demerit, not as a criticism of his bravery. Also, strange as it may sound, some credit to Neighsay for not threatening consequences or anything (even if he'd be REALLY dumb to do so in the presence of three princesses), as well as for actually expediting the discovery of the truth once he's confronted with clear enough evidence. Had Ivory Tower been there, I don't doubt she would have put in even more barriers, not to mention done far worse damage with the information about the Elements. (Though then again, considering she wants to 'maintain Harmony', maybe and just maybe she'd make an exception there.)
Back in the past... seeing Star Swirl being so cold to Stygian was harsh. The way he just called Stygian 'nothing special'... he really does have poor social skills. He may mean well, but he has poor social skills. Good thing the others defended Stygian and pointed out how remarkable what he did was even if he has no remarkable physical of magical talents. At least he's aware enough to keep Celestia and Luna away from a threat, though I confess part of me can't help but think it seems to be for entirely utilitarian purposes rather than out of genuine care (which I suppose would make sense considering how he was later said to not understand friendship, and given what happened in Reflections - Quiververse Edition, he does seem to have come around a bit later on).
Also, perhaps I'm a bit too cynical myself, but I will confess I can't help but think they're all being either a touch naive or sticking their heads in the sand by not being willing to use the 'terminal solution' to the problem of Basso, considering the official series does have a history of showing what happens when dangerous villains are simply let go or even merely spared. That said, I will also acknowledge that not only the characters don't have knowledge that I have from this side of the fourth wall, but also that (my apologies for semi-paraphrasing an argument I used in one of my stories) terminal solutions are permanent and shouldn't be dished out unless one is really sure that it has to be done. And it is a bit of a pity that the Pillars don't try the diplomatic solution first, because maybe that could have worked (as long a shot as might have been). Now the question is whether their battle plan will survive contact with the enemy.
Whether it does or not, though, this was a great chapter! I loved both the build-up to the present-day climax and the revelations of the past, and am looking forward to more of both. Also, as a more general comment, interesting convergence between the origins of the Tree of Harmony that we eventually got in the animated series and what I know of it from both A Tale of Two Sisters and previous entries in the Quiververse.
All in all, still greatly enjoying this story, and still greatly looking forward to more of it!