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Sep
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2017

Episode Discussion » S7E19 - It Isn't the Mane Thing About You · 4:10pm Sep 22nd, 2017

Synopsis

(Having a hard time finding one for this episode)

Apologies for the mega late post, I've been in Spain the past week.

Comments ( 73 )

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Majin Syeekoh
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I'd say late is a bit of an understatement lol

I saw all the fun you had on Twitter, though, and that's what counts.

Great episode, really fun.

Better late than never, I suppose. :applejackunsure:

Anyway, I'm surprised the topic of this episode wasn't tackled earlier in the series. You'd expect a show targeted at young girls to have a discussion on inner beauty at some point. But then I remember that Rarity, the fashionista of the group, defies so many common tropes associated with her character. We've seen that she already knows about inner beauty; she doesn't need a lesson on it.

However, there is a difference between sacrificing your beauty for someone else, and losing your beauty in a freak accident. Rarity losing her mane benefitted no one; it would make sense for her to have a conniption fit over it. And once she's reminded of what's important, she makes a cool style out of it.

Nothing revolutionary, but not too shabby. In fact, the most surprising thing is Starlight Glimmer of all ponies hesitant to fix the problem with magic. Maybe she's finally learning. :duck:

Kniggy, you should've skipped Episode 19 and gone right on to an early post for tomorrow.


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Punk Rarararararrock is way better.

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Look into my eyes darling. What do you see?

How was Spain? I hope you tried the food, that's always the best part of the holiday.

The episode: call me biased but I seem to have like every episode of this season so far, this episode just proves that rarity can make any style look great, the part with spooky eyes gave me a giggle and we get to see zecora again. Woo!:yay:


Also did anyone else notice applejack playing with pound cakes hair? Adorable.


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The top one is meant to be punk? He looks like a cross between a corporate CEO and a tattoo artist/canvas.

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If you see his TV personality, you will get why... He's a wrestler just to tell you that

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Look into my eyes darling. What do you see?

Nothing.

Pure.

Soulless.

Black.

All-encompassing.

Rar.

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Cult.

Of.

Personality.

Riripunk made this entire episode great for me. Sad that the style won’t be staying. :ajsleepy:

This was an episode that I actually, honestly liked. Not simply because Raripunk is such an awesome concept, but because the whole thing didn't feel ham-fisted. We even had Zecora make an important appearance and show that she's still very much relied on by others in need of help, which is always a big bonus.

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oh, that made me think of a scene in a weird movie called "battleship":

Two things:

1) Can someone explain wtf "Mare's Day" is supposed to be? Just a day to celebrate... mares? All in general? Because if so, that's kind of weird and somewhat pointless. Mares are quite clearly already the dominant group in Equestria, why need a whole day to celebrate them all? It's like if we IRL had a "Men's Day" in America. It'd be stupid.

Maybe I'm overthinking it. Mare power and all, but I feel like "social group" holidays are meant to highlight underappreciated or less recognized peoples and ideas, not something that's so broad and present everyday.

2) Haven't watched the episode beyond the beginning... I heard there's a timeskip at the end of the episode??? How long is it, and do any of the characters give any comment about it or explanation?

Great episode!
But just because I know somebody will complain about it:

It makes sense, that they couldnt use magic to regrow Rarities mane.

Zecora(!) wasnt sure, wether Rarities mane could grow back AT ALL, or if the potion had already damaged her hairroots beyond repair.
So using Growth-magic like the mustache-spell from season 1 would put even more strain on it, and could potentially destroy what chances she had. And we know its not the spells fault, as they were able to grow hair on EVERYTHING besides Rarities head.

Thats why they chose to conjure a mane from auxiliary matter.

As for why that didnt work:
A mane consists of hundreds of individual hairs, each of which has to be created individually, to make it look realistic.
Creating or transfiguring a single object is easy, as even trixie can make a teacup.
Creating something made up of multiple parts is more difficult, as seen in Twilights Starburst-fantasy from S7e1, where they had to use a potion to boost the transfiguration, to make a complex object, like a clock.
Sure it was a fantasy, but since it came from twilights mind, it should be fairly accurate.

It is theoretically possible, to make a mane out of magic, (basically hard light, like holodeck matter, or the bodies of gems from steven universe). However, the only being in equestria, confirmed to be able to do that, is discord (as the flying pigs from the season 6 finale)

So, that should do it.

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1. It might be Mothers day, or something. They were giving flowers to their girlfriends (filthy rich for spoiled rich, Bonbon for Lyra)
2. A couple of months. "Are we sure, everything is back at status quo?" "For the hundreth time: yes! its been months."
Basically the same thing as baby cakes (birth > monthaversary) or Daring dont (skipt forward to the books release which was originally said to two months away)
you get the idea.

knighty
Site Owner

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Salou, and yes very much so.

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1) None of that was ever said or clearly implied... they simply called it "Mare's Day". Also, they already have a day for girlfirends. It's called Hearts and Hooves Day.

I'm open to ideas, but that one seems highly unlikely.

2) Gotcha, makes some sense, though with an interesting piece of leaked footage recently (no spoilers), I'm surprised they'd do a timeskip.

Another great episode. I liked almost everything about it:

  • All Rarity scenes. I dig her punk mane as well.
  • We got to see the Cake twins! Sure, it would be nice to see them a bit more grown up, but that's nitpicking.
  • Pinkie avoiding the baking. Procrastination is a thing in Equestria as well!
  • Some good jokes here and there.
  • Good ideas by AJ, RD and Flutters on the new manes.

Maybe the ending is too nice with her winning. Maybe they didn't have to mention it all. Maybe Pinkie could be the winner for the sake of comedy - there were many options. However, the one the authors used worked as well.

I dunno how to feel about the Starlight/Twilight moment: "Time travelling for ordinary ponies? Lolnope!"

Zecora

Zecora can fix loss of voice and broken teeth in no time. She can bond laws of physics with her mind, not using magic. (I'm exaggerating a bit, but you got the point.) She thought of a way to beat Trixie having alicorn amulet. But she can't, even with all the potions she has, fix a regular mane? This can only mean, that manes of ponies are much more magical, powerful, and complicated, than we can imagine. Maybe it has to do with something, when the ponykind found/claimed Equestria. (wink wink, writers.)

I have to say, I missed our fellow zebra very much. The last Zecora's appearance was 26 episodes ago during the Gabby's song. The last time we heard her speak was in the Season 5 Finale. (45 episodes ago) Here comes the hope that we'll see her more in the series!

Shining from the inside out.

Note: Doesn't work when you have poor social skills. (Source: Real life)

Outside the episode

You may find it unnecessary, but it needs to be said:

The lack of Spike in the series is incredible. This season, he actively (background doesn't count) appeared in the premiere. And after that? In one episode. You hear it right - ONE! SINGLE! EPISODE!

I'm confident to say, if the 3rd episode of this season was about Spike leaving Ponyville for any of these reasons:

  • To get an experience in the world.
  • To get an insight on the dragon culture. (my favourite in this list)
  • To bond with characters outside the Ponyville.
  • To assist Thorax. Twilight doesn't need his help at this point. Thorax on the other hand...
  • To help the royal princesses with some duties.
  • Something - anything - else, that excludes him from the episodes for a reason.

For me, it ruins the season, that is otherwise great. I'm upset and disappointed because of that.

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Just saying. The only thing we know about the holiday, is that most ponies buy flowers. Filthy bought some for Spoiled, but not for Tiara. We dont know who bonbons were for. So... Mothers day seems to be the most likely answer. (Also Sugarbelle was with mac. Could be just a callback, or because of the holiday.)

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Indeed, a decent plot, good humor. All in all, an okay episode.

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I think, Rarities mane was so difficult to fix, because of the removal potion. They were able to grow hair everywhere else, just not on rarities head.

And, while an explanation for spikes absence would be nice, they did make some excuses like that during earlier seasons (like during the sleepover episode)

Was a decent episode and the punk style hair was kinda nice, but still didn't do too much for me.

Punk Rarity's theme.

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Rarity Punk, of course.

Let's just say what almost everyone is thinking.... Rarity's new mane was awesome !!! I really wish that it had stayed for a few episodes, but hey, a several month time skip works too.

Surpisingly I don't think Zecora is at fault for this the hair, if I know anything about a prescriptions it's use as directed and Rarity must have ignored the focus on the cleaning part.

It's a bit weird but a lot of fuck ups in magic seem to happen when you forget to read the fine print. And not just on this show. Friendship might be Magic but it not the magic you use to cure stupid.

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Wasn't it a classic case of swapped magical potions, though? Pinkie got Rarity's shampoo, and Rarity got Pinkie's "magical removal potion". I think Zecora should have labeled those, they looked pretty identical from the start. Pretty sure Rarity already picked up the wrong one just after Zecora explained which was which. Then they nearly fell to the floor which further muddled which was which. :derpyderp1:

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"You must send me back in time so I can prevent loosing my mane!"
"Nope."

Well, obviously, the sensible thing to do would have been to go back in time, say, two months, then live out these two months somewhere else! Then, by the time the appointment rolled back around, her mane would've grown back. Easy-peasy, and completely without any temporal pair-of-socks, too! :derpytongue2:

This entire episode reminds me of when I was back in middle school when I was obsessed with my hair.

I once had this really amazing mohawk and it took the rest of the 7th grade school year for me to grow it and make it perfect. I had so much fun flaunting it in 8th grade like the virile and horny teenager I am.

I could've kept it but when I became a freshman in high school and JROTC was my first period, I had to get rid of my mohawk. Three years later, I've finally grown my mohawk back to the way I want.

Now I'm trying to lose some god damned weight and get back in shape because I'm not young and sexy anymore like I used to.

Despite the rest of the episode giving me flashbacks of my teenage years, I totally loved Rarity’s new hairstyle. It's actually a bit disappointing she didn't keep it because it really looked great on her.

I'm not a fan of the Punk movement, authestic or idology, apart from individualism. I'm not fashion minded either, I wear what I like, and my hair is often unklempt.

Still, a good Rarity episode.

I'm not a Rarity fan, though I respect her, I would say as a character, but since Fame and Misfortune...

It's her creativity and problem solving is the part I enjoy, as an aspiring storyteller and a FanFic writer who prefers to work with the canon and sort out the problems presented by it to make my story work.

And I can relate sometime wallowing in self pity at a precieved unsolvable problem, although not the tons of iceam and shunning of light.

The trouble with only managing to watch this episode almost a week late than most is I got spoiled the solution of Punk Rarity, still the reason for it were entertaining, and I did like seeing Zecora again in the show after so long, I included her in a subplot of The EK.

4675498 Actually, the episode clearly states that Rarity got the shampoo and remover potion mixed up. Zecora probably should have labeled them if they looked identical and were in identical shaped and colored vials.

4675453 Yeah, that's becoming a thing that's bothering me, especially when "Triple Threat" was another episode about him screwing up and having to fix a problem he caused, and episodes like this and "Fame and Misfortune" where he deserved a contributing role, he's inexplicably absent. And of course the mane six still treat him poorly, whether it be through ignoring him, roping him into things, or making comments about how he's not scary when they know he's not around. It's even more insulting when you consider the previous season had him finally stop being a butt monkey.

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Mother's Day???

I guess it's a bit more possible, but I'm still unsure.

I'll admit, I didn't exactly have high hopes for this episode when I first heard about it. I thought it was going to be a typical "bad hair day" episode, with Zecora's return being the major selling point.

But it turned out to be a far better story than I imagined. Rarity's plight was very well written, and there were lots of fun moments and continuity nods. And Rarity's new look was really great. It's just too bad it didn't last longer.

This episode made me think of all those with Cancer - especially when Rarity tried to hide herself from every one

Synopsis

(my version)

Rarity accidentally uses remover potion on her head and half her main and tail fall out right before a big photo shoot

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I think Sunset Shimmer has a prior claim here. :moustache:

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--arcum42

Berry Punch spoke

best episode 1000/10




Oh, and there was something about Rarity in it I guess

I'm the one who named Davenport.

We also discovered that part of Twilight's castle is actually constructed from wood, rather than pure crystal.

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Fine then, guess we'll go with the other Joan Jett song for her. (And yes, I know it was a Runaways song first, but Joan Jett was part of that group.)

Hope you had fun in Spain Knighty.

This was one of the best Rarity episodes ever, and that's coming from someone who considers Rarity to be the worst of the Mane 6 and has been losing confidence in the show itself for months.

Twilight's and Starlight's magic are both powerful, especially when time traveling and creating fake mustaches for Spike, yet they cannot make a simple wig for Rari

Wait, why am I complaining? If they did that, this wouldn't exist:

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Okie doke, I'm shutting up right now.

The lighter, loonier episodes aren't typically my favorites, but I like the idea that Rarity was being ignored because of her lack of confidence and wish to conceal her look, rather than the look itself, and that she didn't need the townsponies to tell her as such to understand that.

It's annoying that "work with what you've got" didn't come to her earlier

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Mare's Day is semantically indistinguishable from Women's Day, and I will cleave to that if only so I can imagine a pony Theresa Malkiel running around.

One of the better entries in season 7 thus far. Little to complain about except the pacing and that weird epilogue set a month later.

Plus Punk Rarity is super cute :raritywink:

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