Bronies: Living up to the stereotype · 6:26pm Mar 10th, 2015
This post is Not Safe for Jedi Master Ed.
...which probably just ensures he'll read it immediately. 
I left a post on the Trotcon forums a few weeks ago asking if anyone wanted to help run a writing panel. No responses yet.
I looked through the forums to find out what people were talking about. These were some of the messages that spawned the most discussion:
redcladhero
TrotCon Staff
Artist Acres ~After Dark~ Info and Q&AThis is a special event that will take place both nights (Friday and Saturday) of the convention from 10pm-2am, where artists who work in the adult side of the fandom will be able to sell their wares. This event will be strictly 18+, and a valid photo ID will be required to enter, no exceptions. The room will be separate from the standard AA, with a separate artist list.
Braeburned
Re: Artist Acres ~After Dark~Okay, this is a pretty weird question, but I suppose this is the best place to ask it.
Basically, I'm soon going to attempt molding a clay horsedick and making a silicone mold out of it for the sole purpose of making a bunch of little horsedicks in various materials, to sell. Kind of like bad-dragon's teenie-weenies!
Now, while I'll likely be able to make some in silicone/hard materials, I have a question. Would I be able to make chocolate horsedicks, or maybe sugar/lollipop ones, and sell them? Or, hell, even give them away? I'm just unsure of Trotcon's policy for selling food items. I know other conventions allow some candy/soap vendors, so I know it's not a stretch.
Astral Spectrum
Re: Artist Acres ~After Dark~
Unsure. I'll look into it and we'll let everyone know sometime down the line, Brae.Do want to thank you for your tutorial on drawing fluids of the ejaculatory nature while I'm here. Things fit together better once I actually saw the physical process. Had the physical constraints correct, but could see what I was doing wrong after watching your stream recordings.
Is it... is it really that bad?
EDIT: I think I cringed right through my chair.
>the year of Our Lord 2015
>still surprised by cloppers
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That's more than enough information.
I'm not sure who the customer base is for little horsedicks. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
I laugh because otherwise I'd probably end up in a folding chair outside the con hall cleaning a shotgun and muttering about how this is all Obama's fault.
Don't misunderstand my post. I've been to Trotcon once. It's a great convention, and I'd like to attend again. (Probably can't make it this year... probably?)
All that said, I can attest to BH's post. At least the year I went, they had panels running basically 24hrs, and thus at 3am they had a number of 18+ panels. I attended one, for science. There was a single panelist (luckily, his name escapes me) at the front of the room with a tablet and a projector. As the panel time starts, he drew a horse dingaling and a horse vagoo. He then looked up at the audience, as though just noticing us. He informed us all, "Like, I don't have any material prepared. I was just gonna sit here and draw porn, so if you guys have any questions, y'know, whatever."
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Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! Pick me! Oh! Pick meeeeeee! 
Wait were we talking about was it the chocolate or the horsecock or the writing...?
All of those are fine! Pick me! Pick me! Pick meeeeeee!
God dammit, nerds!
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MLFW bronies complain about programming they don't intend to attend:
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It's honestly sad that Trotcon has to card ponies to sell artwork now. I suspect its because somepony is trying to cause them grief.
2865536 Well, April Fools is coming up.
You may insert a post of your choice chortling about internet jadedness here.
People are wont to share what they like, whatever that may be. Personally I think the "Bronies are perverted sickos" stereotype to be much more acceptable than the "Bronies are mysoginistic fedora-toting dorks" one.
Ah, nothing like some diversity of subjective values to make life interesting.
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I'm less a fan of the 2014 After Dark thing because the past 2 years Trotcon was billing itself as family friendly! And this...well. I'm leery about, because 'clop vending hall' and 'all ages friendly' don't quite go hand in hand for me, even if one is carding for everything.
... isn't anybody going to mention the stream recordings? I thought that was the best part.
I knew a guy who went by RedCladHero in college. Wonder if it's the same guy.
Anyhow, I don't really see why this is cringe-worthy. The entire point of that part of the convention is for people with that peculiar interest to have a venue wherein they can talk about their collective interest candidly. The fact that they do so doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Besides, on the initial point, I wonder how you can spend more than a week on this site and still be surprised with the amount of attention we collectively seem to lavish on clop. I personally would find it harder to believe if it was something people weren't talking about—especially with the added rules limiting it at the con. It's understandable people would want to clarify things ahead of time. Especially if they were planning on selling merchandise there to turn a profit.
I did get a chuckle out of diminuizing "Braeburned" as "Brae," though
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Marelesters, marelesters everywhere!
A) What are the responsibilities for running a writing panel? Does require... ummm... geez, what's-that-word...?
Effort?
B) ...Y'know, I consider myself, on the whole, to be a pretty open-minded individual. But... chocolate mini-horsedicks? I honestly thought I'd heard it all. First off, what's "mini" about a horsedick? Have the words "miniature" and "horsedick" ever been used in the same sentence when pertaining to the size of the horsedick -- unless "not" was added to the statement? What do you think peoples' reactions would be if someone was walking down the street and they were shoving tiny chocolate dicks in their mouths?
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I certainly don't have anything against clopping and cloppers, and for a convention to have panels and such catering to that part of the fanbase is fine and all (and it is good that they are making sure it will be only available to 18+ year olds) but it is a bit disappointing if that is all the Trotcon forums are talking about.
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Rereading that last one to realize what you mean, and... you're horrible. The original writer is horrible. Everyone is horrible.
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Depending on what day/time you want to do it, I'd be willing to do a writer's panel.
Whether or not you want me giving advice is up to you.
2865932 See I hadn't even read the entirety of that last one until you said something.
2865554 I'm assuming you're talking about folks getting carded to go into the adult AA. That's not new. The laws state if you show pornography to a minor you can get in a ton of trouble.
Though if I'm misunderstanding your complaint please do correct me.
You realise of course that this post will now proceed to generate more discussion than anything you've ever said about literature?
I'd buy a shitton of chocolate animal dicks, hell now I wanna see if I can get bad dragon to mold one from tolberone chocolate of a xl chance flared.
Tolberone is fucking delicious, and Dicks are good joke shapes.
It's Braeburned tho :B
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Typically the manner in which this is done at conventions is to require minors to be issued a minor badge, and to bar sellers from exhibiting those things in front of minors. Each attendee has to sign when they reg that they will not allow any other attendee to use the badge, and the back of the badge contains the attendee's real name for which documentation can be demanded when necessary.
I've never seen a carded room at a convention before, except for room parties with alcohol since the age limit for that is different.
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I can't attest to how well their panels are run, I'll admit. Last year I attended a writing thing and it was an enormous fucking mess from lack of planning, which bothers me much more than an artist doing a drawing panel off-the-cuff.
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I can think of plenty of uses.
Size is overrated.
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Is saying that you'll be horrified not complaining?
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I'm of a mixed mind on this topic, having started and chaired a convention with a (not entirely deserved) bad rep for having sex panels and panels on topics people think should be adults-only that have nothing to do with sex. So I actually know a teensie bit about the subject.
I don't think it's appropriate for Trotcon to bill itself as super G-rated. I would prefer they be open about having the sex content they have. But it sounds like they're really open about having the content, so I don't know where they're doing the contradictory billing. I do agree with them that they can have a con with sex content and do it so that minors are not inadvertently exposed. Cons much larger than Trotcon do this all the time, and with fewer restrictions.
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Years ago, before Bad Dragon was big, I actually had a long and very fascinating conversation with one of their sculptors about how the whole thing worked and how they decided what to make and such. I have a lot of respect for those people in finding a market for themselves and making a gigantic pile of money doing something creative.
Plus they're an endless source of comedy.
On the downside, it means that I have to know that there is an enormous market for people who really like dragons. And they have totally unrealistic expectations.
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Honestly there is nothing sadder than going to Bronycon and seeing Braeburned there and not being able to buy anything, not even under the table or by order, because they won't let him bring any penis whatsoever, whether or not it's on display.
But it is somewhat amusing, at least.
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Anyway, jokes aside. I was one of probably a huge slew of peeps who sent in a long ramble about "you should probably make some marepussy and horsecock for bronies no srsly" shortly before they finally did that thing.
...and yet I still haven't bought any, either. It's one part "I keep forgetting because wolf brains are swiss cheese" and "I have less motivation because libido comes and goes thanks to the same narcotics that ruin my brain".
Luna alive, I certainly hope vibrating cybercheeks fixes my pain condition.
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I think you need to see oglaf dot com/lonelymountain/ immediately.
don't be sad like knives TD
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i can't
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Agreed. Neither is even true as a stereotype. "Perverted sickos" is a subjective phrase in the first place, based on the loose qualifier of "I think that's weird, why do they like it?" As for the latter, well. I'm oft heard on my opinions of third-wave feminism and the misandrist mud-slinging.
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I think it's more that if the title splash said "Trotcon, fun for all bronies!: CLOPPING AFTER DARK!" then half of everyone who planned on going would quit. There's still social stigma even in the brony community against openly admitting to enjoying the R34 side of the fandom (love that acceptance level), and going anywhere that says they cater to it even in part can get some heavy flak shifted on people. Peer pressure alone would squeeze most of those worried about it out.
Speak my name and I appear.
I don't know a lot about horses but I hang with folks who do--as in, folks with Master's degrees in Animal Science who've been getting up before dawn to feed horses and muck out stalls for over half their lives. Which translates to: before some of you were even born.
What I've learned from them is that horse sex is terrifying.
And I don't mean in a nudge-nudge-wink-wink-PENIS -SIZE way. I mean that while simply going through the process of procreating, both animals can injure themselves and each other so horribly that they have to be euthanized.
I mean, you're reading this "heartwarming story of horse and rider" that some nice middle-aged lady has posted to your Facebbok feed and you come across the phrase "broke three legs in a breeding accident."
Your first impulse is to make some kind of stupid joke ("Well you shouldn't have given them 'dirigible' for a safeword, then!'). But that's just to cover up the image of an animal that has loved and trusted you since it was born, now brought to this place to do what comes naturally, suddenly ending up screaming and thrashing in a welter of broken limbs and bodily fluids.
So of course we make jokes about Fifty Shades of Neigh. Because that's a horrible image to have in your mind.
I do hope it doesn't occur to you next time you try to jerk it to ponies.
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Bronycon has a very strong focus on keeping things family friendly, with maybe a single 18+ panel per year, usually zero. A lot of the family-friendly focus has to do with maintaining a strong & close connection with Hasbro. I don't see how encouraging under-the-table smut sales would help them stay in Hasbro's good graces. For Bronycon specifically, the discussion is a non-starter.
Your points for Trotcon stand, though. It seems like they've, historically, been a lot more tolerant of 18+ content, so in their case, the "family friendly!" messaging does seem contradictory. It might be more straightforward if Trotcon switched systems like you're proposing, just to keep from confusing everyone.
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I'm not saying Bronycon should change! I did not mean to send that impression. Bronycon is a G-only con for good reason.
However, there should be merch for adults at most other pony cons, because the attendees are, by and large, adults, and can be accommodated.
2866581 I suspect this results from the common practice of isolating stallions before they're a year old, so that they're never socialized to other horses.
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Well, I don't think "not putting clop on main page" = "billing self as family-friendly", exactly.
As for bronies, I actually think that when some bronies say "cloppers", they don't mean people who masturbate to cartoon ponies. They mean people who masturbate, period. Because they're 15 years old, raised religious, and still deny masturbating (both to self and others). And while that's certainly not the bulk of the fandom, I'm willing to wager it's a surprisingly large (but shrinking) slice of the pie chart.
2866581 Oh Ed. Ed, Ed, Ed.
This is the age of Reddit and 4Chan.
And the prior generation was weaned on Somethingawful.com
Nothing stops masturbation, Ed. Nothing.
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People who confuse real horse things for pony fantasy are confused.
That's not to say I can't have sympathy with people who are... um... "into ponies". Although it is not for me personally "interesting" enough to ever broach the subject with my friends who live on farms. This is fortunate for my dignity, which does not exist. But human X pony is notoriously less violent, and if anypony dies, it's the human. Which is probably for the best (and the human would likely agree, but not once they're dead, because it's much more difficult to get conclusive agreement at that point unless you use them as a puppet and skulls are not as hollow like you'd think they're full of meat and you can't even find a hole in there I mean srsly it's crazy, like, the neck has this big spiny thing in the way and I forget the conversation I was having).
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According to the Sagas, one of the sports among rich families of Settlement-age Iceland was stallion-fighting. You know, because cockfighting and dogfighting were too tame.
It's like high-stakes gambling and animal cruelty all rolled into one. Nice folks!
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[EDIT: so what is the difference between jerking it to MLP and jerking it to, say, "Bob's Burgers?"]
Well it's like this:
If you say you jerk it to bicycles, I'll probably just roll my eyes.
If you say you jerk it to bicycles with training wheels and pink streamers on the handlebars...I will try to look anywhere but at you while still keeping track of you with my peripheral vision.