After Discord learns about the fate set for Equestria, he can't help but do something drastic. After all, Fate and Chaos are like water and oil; they'll never get along. Let's see what happens when an extra character is introduced at the beginning!
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Every update tastes so good. Can I have some more?
Always brightens my day when i see this story updated
Obviously the digging pony is a scottish dwarf... SO WAICISTS!
Awesome :D
That digger pony is a dwarf on four legs
Now we just need him, a barrel of ale, an axe, some goblins to bash heads with and we have a real dwarf, not counting the four legged part
Updates, yay!
Is it strange I read this for the story and not the clop?
Hmmm.....
1. Yay new chapter!
2. Wonder if the new canon reveled in the season finale about changelings will make it into the story here, or will the story carry on with more AU-ness and take us somewhere interesting.
7706100 Nah, he makes much better story than many. The clop only adds to it.
7706130 that's what I thought. The only story with more clop and equal storytelling is the clock tower society.
I think I finally figured out what has been bugging me about your dialogs.
The main character in your stories has at least twice as much dialog in any back and forth conversation as anyone else. Usually allot more. Sometimes the mc has 4 times as many lines as anyone else in any given conversation. He tends to have paragraphs, everyone else one or two sentence responses.
There is also a tendency of conversations only happening between your mc's and others ... not between other character's. Aka conversations have of tendency of being mostly MC -> Character A -> MC -> B ->MC ->A -> MC -> D -> MC -> A -> B -> MC -> MC -> D.
I'm amazed at how well this story would fit in with the Cannon....
Also love the story keep it up!
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First of all, thanks for replying in an intelligent manner (or in this case replying at all since the author doesn't seem to care that much). Here's the thing okay, the brain and the center of the spinal column do indeed have nerves without any myelin, but here's the problem: without the nerves WITH myelin, the brain and the spinal column wouldn't be able to "communicate" with the rest of the body. To put it in another percepective or a different point of view: what is more important, the brain or the heart? The answer is neither, both are equally important because if one fails or stops working properly, the other one will, without a doubt, have problems as well.
So, your argument here is that, since they are in a medieval era that it's acceptable for Max to make such a statement. If that is the case then I suppose if Max would've made a statement like this, that would've been okay to: Where I come from, we use a sun to heat up the water we use to bathe ourselves. Why is that statement okay? Because that's the closest thing Celestia and Luna have as a reference to a boiler room/heating system.
So much changeling science! Well not really but you get the point. I really like this story, including all of the talk based upon magical theory and common knowledge from good ole mother earth. I find this story's intrigue and development to be just awesome. I'd say it is equal in potentialas with your other story in which Nightmare uses one of the more annoying, but effective, pokemon moves around to replace herself with a human. You all know the title so I am not even going to bother stating it.
I would like to ask you if you intend to have outside enemy forces other then bandits and stupid nobles attempt to attack equestria after Maximus and the changelings have settled in for a bit. Also, I am very curious if you have considered asking the ponies if they know how to build mills, both water and wind versions, it could prove to be something useful for them if they could slightly industrialize their crops production. I do not remember if you ever mentioned any mills or similar structures in the earlier chapters so I am just going to take a shot here and ask.
PS: My own story got denies, apparently I haven't mentioned enough Equestria lore in it for it to be allowed to be posted, Kind of weird considering the story hasn't even entered chapter 3 yet and I am still developing the main character, a bit annoying really.
7706355 they have fire, they have the ability to produce light without a lot of heat (unicorn horns, whenever they get used), they have things other than the sun analogy to compare lightbulbs to. Fusion reactors are what you use a "tiny sun" analogy for, because the underlying physics is very similar.
For electricity, lightning is actually a very good descriptor to get started with, as both involve electrical potential. Using the smaller scale doornob shocks only works if you've got fuzzy carpets everywhere, and describing the full physics of it may be something he's not trained to do.
7706355 I'm honestly sick of people whining about Max trying to explain nerve signals with lightning as being wrong. We use the sun? No, we burn gas, or use lightning to heat metal that heats the water. Your generalization is absolutely ignorant. We can capture the sun, turning it into lightning, but we don't use the sun itself. The idea is not to lie to them, but to try to put it into terms the locals can understand. Your comment about our abilities would strike me as chest-thumping. Max is not trying to be pompous, he's trying to give them ideas, to direct them to discoveries humanity has already made.
If the guy who commented to you was right about you meaning we use nuclear reactors, I'm even more confused. We don't use that to heat our water, we use that to create lightning, to create potential energy which we then use for things like water heaters and microwaves. No sane person would bath in water heated by a reactor. That's how you get cancer. And death.
7706116 As I've said to amethyst, I've never watched an episode. I've seen what the changelings ended up as, but it honestly scared me. Conversion Bureau anyone?
7706179 I did something similar with Cost of Asylum. If you like this and are interested on a different take on the Fall of Equestria topic, give it a looksee.
7706251 If your life is on the line, you can be very clinical. If the alicorns decided he was dangerous, if he put off Luna or wasn't careful about how he approached her, he stood a very good chance of dying in prison. Even if they didn't kill him. There was no time to, ha, fuck around.
7706269 I've never really thought about it, but one of the main reasons for that is because I tend to do conversations from the perspective of the speaker. I've had Celestia lead, I've had Luna lead, Max just draws a lot of questions. He's alien, in every sense of the word. Even his thought processes are strange.
Besides, I know I don't catch everything that people say when I'm focused on another or thinking, so I don't see it being too far-fetched that someone else would miss things.
7706458 I've had several stories denied. Don't let that stop you. Go back, find out what needs to be done to make it an actual pony fic, then do what you can to follow the rules. I still haven't looked at it(been kind of bleah for the last week or two) but I'll try to take a look and see what may be catching you.
7707123 Thank you for your take on his complaint, it confused me a bit.
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Just think of it as the adult stage of the changeling lifecycle (they ARE kinda insect like), and it should be a lot less creepy. Personally I think that excessive bright, clashing colors+shiny chitin=eyesore, but I don't find it creepy.
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I was talking about this story and The Substitute Demon. Also, yes, I do expect the main character in a first person story to have more lines of dialog total (He is around to join in in every conversation after all). It's just that I've noticed that every other character tends to have concise dialog while your OC main characters have a tendency to ramble.
You have been getting better at not doing it as much, but in some of your earlier work.... yeah. Now it only happens occasionally.
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(1) then do something about it, because I can guarantee that whining about how people whine isn't going to solve anything.
(2) lightning produces 5 billion joules of electricity, the heart consumes around 8-12 joules of electricity per hour. It would take a maximum of 625,000,000 hours for 8 joules consume the electricity of a lightning and a minimum of 416,666,666.666 hours for the heart to consume 5 billion joules of electricity. There are 8,760 hours in a year. With the electric consumption of 8 joules per hour, within the year the heart would consume around 70,000 joules. With the electric consumption of 12 joules per hour, within the year the heart would consume around 105,000 joules. It would take 71,428 years maximum for the heart to consume completely the electricity of a lightning strike (8 joules per hour) and a minimum of 47,619 years to consume completely the electricity of a lightning strike (12 joules per hour) do some research before pointing a finger will you.
(3) yes, we do use the sun. The use of solar panels produce around 315,000 megawatts per year. In fact, if we put solar panels in .3% of the Saharan desert (27,600 km2)those panels alone can produce enough electricity to sustain the European Union (4.325 million km2). And what about electric water heaters? Don't they exist as well? Or are they a figment of our imagination?
(4) can you please tell me which country uses lightning to heat up water? Because I am pretty sure that there are thousands, if not millions of better ways to use that amount of energy/electricity.
(5) not as much as your argument
(6) in other words, we humans have the technology to "capture" a mass of plasma who's diameter is (using google so I don't look like an idiot) 1,319,400 km (or 820,012.4 miles) Citation if you will. I mean, the earths diameter is around (checking Google again) 13,462 km (or 8,366.7 miles). Learn to logic.
(7)could you elaborate please? It sounds fascinating how we can transform uv rays into one of the most deadliest forces that Mother Nature has not offer. It must be a fascinating explanation with, of course, scientific prove and evidence as to how the procedure happens.
(8) on that, I can somewhat agree. We don't use the sun, but we do use what the sun radiates. If not, this entire lanes would be frozen solid and devoid of life.
(9) what "abilities" are you speaking of? I have never made any mention about any "human" ability (whatever that means)
(10) well, I find most of the problems in your statement "finger-throbbing" and your confusion between the difference between "lightning" and "electricity" "cheek-pinching"
(11) of course not, he's being who you want him to be (which is why I pity him)
(1) nuclear fission produces around 11% of the electricity that's consumed in the civilised world, we use that energy to do a shitload of things. Learn to logic.
(2) care to explain how we transform radioactive water vapour to create 5 billion joules of electricity that travels at the speed of light.
(3) nuclear fission produces a tremendous amount of energy, and even if you use "lightning" as a comparison (a shotty one at that), when you can "produce" lightning/thunder that has around 5,000,000,000 joules of electricity as "potential energy", that makes me wonder what you would consider "dangerous/unstable energy"
(4) wrong, that's a way to get cancer, which has less to do with cancer and more to do with your genetic information inside your cells being torn apart by radioactive energy that will kill you from the inside out.
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I'm. . . a plothole, well, at least I'm not an ass-hole (badum psst)
Corrections offered without malice.
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Other than deleting your comments I cant really do much about it besides trying to refute them. I find my analogy to be perfectly logical in spite of your issues with it. It's like explaining photosynthesis by saying plants eat sunlight. Is it scientifically accurate? No. Would it make sense to a someone who has no background in biology? I think so. It's also irritating when people prove that rule of the internet true. "All of your well-thought out arguments can be ignored."
2: So you take issue with the scale, but not the science? That makes it even more confusing. It's normal for scientists to try to replicate things at smaller scales to better understand what's going on, isn't it?
3: I'm not giving you this one. That was a completely different line of science than you argued at first, and I DID say we used solar power. But we don't use the sun directly. We can't. We need to convert that energy to electricity, to lightning before we can use it in most appliances.
4:Alright, im starting to think you're trolling. Not in the matter of messing around, but that you're looking for a fight.
All of the countries. I have no idea why you keep getting caught up on the scale differences between electric power and lightning. Both are electrical currents. One is merely much larger and more uncontrolled.
5: sick burn bro, haven't heard a 'no, you are' comment in a while.
6: How else would you describe solar panels to a lay man? That's what it does, it catches the power of the sun and converts it into electricity.
7: Again, getting caught up on the scale. Lightning IS electricity, if you do any exploration into the topic you will see the power measured in the same units as electricity is. And here's a solar panel.
9: The human races ability to use electricity as well as we do? Don't try saying we can't, that we don't have powers, because there are multiple ways to judge ability. In this case, I'm not speaking of physical abilities like speed or toughness. Our ability to harness electricity, as both of us are currently doing for this discussion, is something we are taught, not something we are born with. The human race as a whole has the ability to harness these powers of nature, given the proper knowledge and tools.
10: This is about as logical as a soup sandwich. Are you saying my 'confusion' (which was, in fact, an analogy) is cute?
11: okay, this makes less sense. He's being who I want him to be so you pity him. He, the main character of my story, is being who I, the writer, want him to be. What else would he be? No, seriously. I need an answer. What would a character be without an author?
An idea. An idea that would soon be lost to other ideas and never exposed to the light of day.
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1: Ah but we don't use the sun, as you said above. That's the issue that you've been hitting me for, isn't it? You seem, to me at least, to be nitpicking when you choose to be literal and when you use examples. Nuclear power is to the sun as electricity is to lightning.
2:again, nitpicking. You allow for the power of the sun = fusion analogy but you refuse to accept the lightning = electricity analogy. Why? Better yet, how would you explain to someone with no grounding in science how their body works? Yes, you could say it's magic, but then you haven't really taught them anything, have you? Have you even considered the fact that saying "The brain sends the signal to the muscles in the arm." wouldn't make sense to them? What's a signal? How does the muscle see the smoke or flag that the brain is using?
3:once again nitpicking on my use of lightning/electricity. As for unstable/dangerous energy, there isn't one. There is only energy that we're not properly equipped or scientifically advanced enough to understand and utilize. Science fiction often becomes science fact because people look at those ideas and ask "Can we do that?" For that reason, I don't think we're really that far off from lightning farms, where we can catch lightning as it strikes the ground and use it to power our cities or maybe, oh, hydrogen batteries. According to this article by the Institute of Physics, a single hydrogen fuel cell cost over a thousand dollars for a single kW of power eight to ten years ago. By 2011, that was down to about $61. Checking a current retailer of those cells, they're now down to about $20. This is hydrogen we're talking about here, the same thing that chemistry teachers explode to get the attention of their students. It's a volatile gas to be sure, but it's all about how you use it.
4:
Once again you come across as sounding like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing. You say I'm wrong, then go ahead and say that I was correct, citing the reasons for why someone who bathed in radioactive water would get cancer. I find it difficult to see what you're arguing against here, aside from maybe arguing that I'm saying this is the only way to get cancer.
Glass was not exactly plentiful back in history. Yeah it's made of sand, but not any kind of sand. Glass stuff were expensive as heck for a long time. For storing stuff, pottery was more common. Just thought I'd mention it.
7709777 jesus fuck this is too much
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Other than (1)deleting your comments(1) I cant really do much about it besides (2)trying to refute them(2). I find (3)my analogy to be perfectly logical(3) in spite of your issues with it. It's like explaining photosynthesis by saying plants eat sunlight. Is it scientifically accurate? No. (4)Would it make sense to a someone who has no background in biology? I think so(4)It's also irritating when people prove that (5)rule of the internet true(5). "All of your well-thought out arguments can be ignored."
(1) in other words, you're either in denial or you simply can't take my criticism.
(2) you are doing a shitty job refuting me
(3) that's what a person in denial would say. "I am right and you are wrong, you idiot, get a life and accept that what I am saying is right"
(4) I agree, normally I wouldn't ask a biologist how plants work, I would ask a botanist. They aren't the same you know.
(5) I use google because it's a search engine that allows me to search what I am looking for, and I find this point of yours ironic because you are going to use the Internet to do research later on this same discussion. Hypocrite much?
2: So you(1) take issue with the scale(1), (2)but not the science?(2) That makes it even more confusing. It's normal for scientists to try to (3)replicate things at smaller scales to better understand what's going on(3) isn't it?
(1) I don't have a problem with the scale of my dick, or of lightning
(2) there is a science to practically everything you know, even of how to kiss ass, which you are doing a wonderful job btw (this comment is purely satire in case you feel your safe space being threatened by me)
(3) so if a scientist wants to know how a black hole works, is the scientist going to create a black hole? How about the effects of Agent Orange of people? Is the scientist going to "expose in a small scale" people to Agent Orange?
3: I'm not giving you this one. That was a completely different line of science than you argued at first, (1)and I DID say we used solar power(1). But we don't use the sun directly. We can't. We need to convert that energy to electricity, to lightning before we can use it in most appliances.
(1) oh really? Then who wrote this?
because it wasn't me.
4:Alright, im starting to think (1, 2)you're trolling(1, 2) Not in the matter of messing around, but that you're looking for a fight.
(1) I do admit, I am a bit of a troll every now and then, but the thing is this you munchkin, the more attention anyone pays a troll the worse things are going to get
(2) you think I want to fight you? Please, I have higher standards than that. I like having a verbal debate with those who can take a hit and not whine about it by deleting what they don't like.
(1)All of the countries(1). I have no idea why you keep getting caught up on the scale differences between electric power and lightning. Both are electrical currents. One is merely much larger and more uncontrolled.
(1) 57% of Africa doe at have electricity, 5% of Latin America doesn't have electricity, 8% of the Middle East doesn't have electricity p, 17% of Asia doesn't have electricity. That's about 1,300,000,000 people without electricity. Remove your head from your ass and start to see that the world isn't how you think it is.
5: sick burn bro, haven't heard a 'no, you are' comment in a while.
6: How else would you (1)describe solar panels to a lay man(1)? That's what it does, it catches the power of the sun and converts it into electricity.
(1) layman: nonordained member of a church
Layman: a person without a professional or specialised knowledge in a particular subject.
I could ask an engineer who isn't specialised in solar panels how solar panels work. I could as a botanist the similarities plants and solar panels have. Neither of those two know anything specific about solar panels, but that doesn't mean they don't know how they work, as you yourself stated: "it catches the power of the sun and converts it into electricity". Now that I think of it, you're a layman and yet you explained what solar panels do.
7: Again, getting caught up on the scale. (1)Lightning IS electricity(1), if you do any exploration into the topic you will see the power measured in the same units as electricity is.
(1) all lightnings are electricity, not all electricity is lightning. A different argument with the same credibility would be: rivers are oceans and all oceans are rivers because they have water.
9: The (1)human races ability to use electricity as well as we do(1)? Don't try saying we can't, that we (2)don't have powers(2), because there are (3)multiple ways to judge ability(3). In this case, I'm not speaking of physical abilities like speed or toughness. Our ability to harness electricity, as both of us are currently doing for this discussion, is something we are taught, not something we are born with. The human race as a whole has the ability to (4)harness these powers of nature(4) given the proper knowledge and tools.
(1) we don't control electricity, we can't. The machines that conduct electricity control electricity, we (by ourselves) can't control electricity, and those who aren't specialised in fields of study regarding the production and distribution of electricity can't do it either, even if they had all the resources to do so. It would be like having a farmer trying to build a solar panel. Even if we give the farmer everything required to build the solar panel, since he doesn't know how to make it, it becomes pointless.
(2) you are right, we don't. And the fact that you are saying this like a preacher to the choir only proves that you are denial and you can't face the fact that we, without our precious technology aren't that of a powerful being.
(3)you are right, there are countless ways to judge an ability, just like we can judge the ability of a fish to climb a tree. But there is a difference between "power" and "ability"
power: ability to do something or act in a particular way, especially as a faculty or quality. The capacity/ability to direct/influence the behaviour of others or the course of events
Ability: possession of the skills or means to do something. Talent, skill or proficiency in a particular area.
(4) we can't harness shit about nature. In fact, the main (if not only) reason we as a specie managed to become so powerful is because we can alter our natural surroudings to whatever we please. We force our surroundings to change by terraforming them into something we require for our development.
10: This is about as logical as a soup sandwich. Are you saying my 'confusion' (which was, in fact, an analogy) is cute?
11: okay, this makes less sense. He's being who I want him to be so you pity him. He, the main character of my story, is being who I, the writer, want him to be. What else would he be? No, seriously. (1) Ineed an answer(1). ;2)What would a character be without an author(2)?
(1) so you can delete my comment again?
(2) nothing, if we remove the concept and everything the character has from the authors brain and conscious, the character would seize to exist.
(3)An idea. An idea that would soon be lost to other ideas and never exposed to the light of day(3).
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(3) ideas can evolve and change, I can make an idea that I have into a character, as long as the core of a character remains, the character wouldn't seize to be.
1: Ah but we don't use the sun, as you said above. That's the issue that you've been hitting me for, isn't it? You seem, to me at least, to be nitpicking when you choose to be literal and when you use examples. Nuclear power is to the sun as electricity is to lightning.
2:again, nitpicking. You allow for the power of the (1)sun = fusion(1) analogy but you refuse to accept the lightning = electricity analogy. Why? Better yet, how would you explain to someone with no (1)grounding in science how their body works(1)? Yes, you could say it's magic, but then (2)you haven't really taught them anything, have you(2)? Have you even considered the fact that saying "The brain sends the signal to the muscles in the arm." wouldn't make sense to them? What's a signal? How does the muscle see the smoke or flag that the brain is using?
(1) I've never written the word fusion, I wrote fission and they are abysmally different. It seems that you can't even read what I wrote.
(2) and what do you think I'm doing to you? I am trying to educate you, but you seem to be you blindly ignorant that you can't seems to understand what I am trying to say, or you are so deep in denial that you are incapable of facing some else's opinion without freaking out.
3:once again nitpicking on my use of lightning/electricity. As for (1)unstable/dangerous energy, there isn't one(1)There is only energy that we're not properly equipped or (2)scientifically advanced enough to understand and utilize(2). (3)Science fiction often becomes science fact(3) because people look at those ideas and ask "Can we do that?" For that reason, I don't think we're really that far off from lightning farms, where we can catch lightning as it strikes the ground and use it to power our cities or maybe, oh, hydrogen batteries. According to this article by the Institute of Physics, a single hydrogen fuel cell cost over a thousand dollars for a single kW of power eight to ten years ago. By 2011, that was down to about $61. Checking a current retailer of those cells, they're now down to about $20. This is hydrogen we're talking about here, the same thing that chemistry teachers explode to get the attention of their students. It's a volatile gas to be sure, but it's all about how you use it.
(1) in other words, you're saying that nuclear energy is completely 100% safe with no chance in hell of something bad happening? So Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and Fukishima Daiichi reactor meltdown accidents with nuclear reactors are made up and not real?
(2) true, but if we can "farm lightnings" as you want so badly to happen, I believe we can do everything we want, we just have to use enough "lightning power"
Once again you come across as sounding like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing. (1)You say I'm wrong, then go ahead and say that I was correct(1) (2)citing the reasons for why someone who bathed in radioactive water would get cancer(2) I find it difficult to (3)see what you're arguing against here(3) aside from maybe arguing that I'm saying this is the only way to get cancer.
(1) I have never, in this discussion of ours agreed with anything you've said so far. Don't put me in your level of ignorance or denail
(2) when did I ever said anything like that. According to the amount of people that die from radiation induced cancer, they only make around 10%, and guess what you munchkin, it's mainly cancer induced by radiation that has little to do with nuclear materials.
(3) then you haven't paid attention at all regarding what I've written a and what I am trying to say to you, you munchkin.
7709777 lol chill it's just an overgeneralization made cuz both lightning and nerve endings use electricity.
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Lightning is electricity, nerves use electricity.
7716134 I have no idea how you can say that now after gnashing your teeth so much on my use of that same principle.
7714629 Looks to me like you're either getting sloppy or angry. No quotes this time?
1: I'm in denial? I don't have 4/6 comments on my user-page deleted. Hell, I've never deleted someone's comment, though the prospect is tempting. I also actually try to work out what someone's issue with my stories are, either for myself or for the person expressing confusion/anger. It keeps me logical and helps me make sure I'm on the same page as my readers. There comes a time when it doesn't matter what I say though. You're not here to argue the story, you're hear to B&M because no one will listen to you otherwise. You need to attack someone to provoke any kind of reaction. It's kind of sad, actually. I bet I'm one of the longest running conversations you've had in a while, aren't I? And you spend half of it attacking both my story and myself.
2: Maybe you're doing a shitty job of expressing what you find issue with? I still don't know how you take issue with the nerve signals being explained with the only kind of electricity the locals will have ever seen.
3: Says the person who starts swearing at me when I manage to refute most of their points. Obviously denial.
4: Again with nitpicking when it suits you. Are you telling me that a biologist wouldn't be able to tell you how plants work? I mean, I learned that in high school. I'm fairly certain that someone who works with cell-structure on a daily basis would know how plants work on a cellular level.
5: It's not hypocrisy to use a public tool, nor have I just started using it. I use it to double-check any statement I make, I used it the first time I refuted you, and I shall continue to use it. That's quite literally the reason it's there. To allow people to fact-check almost instantly.
Second statement- I can't even comment on this, you've devolved into a child. Every one of these is an insult or comment about how much of a big boy you are.
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1: I stand by that, because directly after that, the part that you cut off, I said we use solar panels to convert the sun into electricity which we can then use. We are not capable of walking/floating/flying to the sun, plugging an outlet into it, and using the sun directly.
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That doesn't look like high standards to me...
Fifth-
Bitching at me for using google? There's no way you know this off the top of your head, and this still doesn't refute me. Aside from maybe a few minor countries that no one in a first world country could name in Africa, all of these places have access to electricity. Even those have access, even if they can't afford it or it's not practical for them.
Sixth - wut? Did you really just copy-paste me? After saying you had higher standards?
Seventh-
1:The difference between all these people that you're listing and the individuals Max is working with, which you seem unable to understand, is that all of your examples have basic understanding of microbiology and electrical science, which the ponies haven't developed yet.
Eighth - Constantly misinterpreting my statements gets old, you know. Besides, you couldn't even hold your statement to one item. rivers and oceans are both composed of water, yes. Electricity and lightning are both composed of...electricity? amps or watts? Try to maintain a line of thought long enough to be coherent please. The best you could manage with that statement would be saying that I'm calling nerve-signals lightning, which I said was merely an anology. If you can't figure out the difference between someone making a scientific blunder and an analogy, I can't help you.
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1: We do control electricity. Not directly, but by keeping a close tab on it and making certain that it's natural tendency to follow the path of least resistance makes it take the path we want it to take. We do the same thing with water and fire. It can be controlled, even if we can't directly impose our will on it.
2: What the heck are you even saying here? I said we Do control electricity, but in a different way from what you are implying.
3: Once more you can't fault my logic so you attack my wording, trying to twist it. Are you really that desperate for gratification? No matter which definition you use, we can control electricity. We direct it.
4:
Um, isn't that harnessing nature? Do we not have hydro-electric damns, wind turbines and geothermal plants? All used to turn nature's resources and energy into forms of energy we can use? You said we alter our surroundings, that doesn't mean we destroy nature in the process. Nature doesn't just stop existing if humans have been in an area. Hell, I'll give you a more direct way people harness nature. Poison dart frogs are used by tribesmen to poison their arrows. They're harnessing the animal's defense mechanism in order to aid in their hunts.
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1: Deleted your comemnts? When? Where? I don't think I've ever done that, even when someone was getting nasty.
2: so if you know this, why do you pity someone for existing?
Twelfth -
1: The sun's energy is mostly produced by fusion. If you're going to say you were talking about fission, than you're saying you were wrong in the first place. if not, you're wrong now. Which is it?
2: trying to educate me? No, you're complaining about an analogy not being correct, then going on to attack me and my story because I don't roll over and submit to your obviously superior intellect, just like those other idiots on your user-page didn't. You still haven't answered my question, either. How would you explain electrical impulses from the brain to the muscles? The word signal means a completely different thing to pre-space or even pre-industrial civilizations.
Thirteenth -
1: how do you go from "There is only energy that we're not properly equipped or scientifically educated to utilize" to inferring my denial of nuclear disasters? All of these disasters were because something broke, something went wrong. Something happened that we weren't prepared for.
From Chernobyl Gallery.com,
They did several tests and all failed. In spite of this they went ahead and used the method that was proven to be faulty during a live test. In fact according to this article, they didn't warn the local government agency about it because they didn't want the agency to shut down the test, one that had already failed during cold-tests, before they tried it on a hot-test, one with the reactors active. This is human error. This is someone trying to shortcut the system, not paying attention to what could happen, not taking the proper preventative measures.
Three mile island also could have been stopped or at least reduced in impact, but due to human error and lack of training,
From the 3Mile Island Wiki
Again, human error. In fact, reading through Wikipedia's article on the event, there were several issues that compounded to make the even such a disaster and allowed it to proceed in spite of so many safeties.
The third was caused by a tsunami/earthquake that damaged the cooling capabilities. Like the Chernobyl incident, though:
From the Fukishima Daiichi Wiki
They were warned of the danger's, looked at the data themselves, and went ahead with what they had. It was a gamble. They gambled that the damage wouldn't occur, putting the health and safety of everyone in the area up as collateral.
Fire itself is a dangerous thing, so are blades. Yet I find myself comfortable using my car, or cutting up chicken with a butchers knife because I know the risks and how to offset them. In all of these cases, issues were ignored and damage was incurred as a consequence. I am and will continue to be firm in my belief that the risk lies in ignoring the possible dangers around us, not our failing to label everything as dangerous. If we did so, paper would have warnings about paper cuts.
2: a scientist actually pulled a group together to discuss the possibility, but it wasn't feasible. At the moment, at least. He had no way to prompt the lightning to hit the receiver with any consistency and the power that was harvested wasn't worth the set-up. Too much energy was lost between the energy's trip from the cloud layer to the receiver.
Posting and starting a new comment.
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Never mind,it seems that you don't want to listen to a different opinion about stuff regarding the difference of the electrical intensity of lightning and how the brain uses micro volts to make the entire body work.
If you still want to believe that you are right, go ahead, I wouldn't care less. You can now have you little parade on how you don't want to listen to a different opinion about the difference between lightning and micro volts.
Ps, here's the definition of amps and watts
Amps: abbreviation for ampere
Ampere: unit of electricity equal to the flow of one coloumb per second
Watt: the SI unit of power, equivalent to one joule per second corresponding to the power of an electrical circuit, in which the potential difference one volt and the current is one ampere.
Please, don't reply to this, I do not want to deal with you anymore
7714629 Fourtheenth -
1: Never agreed with me... hang on, let me look...
Or did those words not come from you?
2:
I also never said that cancer would cause death, I said it was a way to get cancer, and a way to die. Fun fact, cancer would kill more people if we weren't so damn good at finding so many other ways to kill ourselves before the cancer finally took us.
3: I haven't paid attention...you, who have back-stepped and tripped over yourself, contradicted yourself several times, as shown above with your"I've never agreed/ I agree" Statements, are saying that I've not paid attention? Not only that, you've gone from complaints in my story to waving your e-peen about, which quite frankly has told me all I need to know about your objective. I've never deleted a comment before, Weaver, but you're itching to be a first. I'll apologize for losing my temper, but if you continue to use comments like
, you will be a first.
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Holy crap dude, do you have NO concept of a metaphor, or are you deliberately being this THICK?
7716134 ...Yeah. That's kinda the point. If a culture has no real concept of electricity beyond lightning, why wouldn't you use lightning in leu of an actual explanation of electricity? Of course it's a gross oversimplification, but who cares? This is the most stupid thing I've seen in weeks, and I've watched Cartoon Network recently.
Do you really care so much about this pornographic My Little Pony fanfiction that you're willing to argue this long? In the comments section? Same to you 7717094. Chill the fuck out, this is embarrassing for both of you and makes it hard to actually look at the comments.
Holy walls of text batman!
Don't feed the trolls.
Love the story, the pacing, the growth of characters in development. As long as I avoid the comments section *shudders* then I'm all for new chapters! Don't let this great tail (yes I said tail ^_^) fall by the wayside!
I just re-read the story.
Ah'm so happy ah read this.
Thank ya :)
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Oh my god THANK YOU! You had me dying of laughter dude! I find it hilarious when someone gets that worked up over a story, its like a bonus chapter in the comments, and it makes everything that much better. Thank you for that sir.
(re-read)
Actually, considering how intelligent he seems he's probably played some civ-building simulations before. The better ones can get surprisingly in-depth.
Also this.
Why is glass so cheap here? I guess you're going to say "magic", which is viable, but still. In real world history, glass was historically a bitch to try and make, and typically on the wealthy would have it. Hardened clay jars would've been much more likely and easy to make, even in chaos insanity land.
wonder if max would be able to temporarily change into a human since you need to be very familiar to change shapes.
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Making dirty/clouded glass isn't hard, making the clear stuff we use today for windows, bottles, etc is hard.