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You and Tonya will be given heavy sedatives from Lavender Mist if the trial is during the day.
I feel the sentence works better this way.
Tonya
the dreamwardens and head hunting and looking to make a example of some one.
but who do they answer two?
there has to be a system of checks and balances or you are going to end up with Hitler or Joseph Stalin.
power corps, absolute power coups absolutely.
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The only checks they have are each other. The alicorns are kinda in the same boat. It doesn't always have a bad end. Provided it's limited to policing mind magic, I think it gives them a pass.
My real issue with Tonya's case is that she did everything prior to knowing anything about Dreamwardens, since that information is seemingly only shared with Night Ponies, not amongst any other. Is it really fair to deal with her so harshly then?
It's interesting to consider that most of what applies to Tonya would also apply to Sunset Shimmer as well. Was Sunset Shimmer's gambit doomed to failure without Equestrian intervention? Everyone ponified before all dying to spontaneous dream wardens later? Sunset Shimmer had been using mind manipulation magic for years before her assassination.
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I agree 110%
but hear inlies the problem the Dreamwardens are trying to stay secret or in the back ground if you will so only a vary select few know about them.
how many more pony's will fall to the same problems that Tony has created for her self?
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Until there is an attempt to educate all the ponies behind ther initial vision, I imagine it will keep happening. It's considered a crime in Equestria and supposedly ponies are taught morals related to this in school there, though how often it comes up as a plot device makes me wonder. That probably grew out of Luna judging ponies there about it.
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She only did one thing prior to knowing about the dreamwardens that got her in trouble and that thing she knew was wrong. You shouldn't have to be educated to know that mind controlling someone into doing murder is a seriously bad thing. The thing with her family came after her knowing and Phobia said she was only going to get the equivalent of a slap on the wrist because it was purely an accident. The thing with the song she got a verbal warning about and told to get more informed consent in the future. For all the talk of no mercy they've actually been very reasonable about lesser crimes and accidents. Murder is a whole other ballgame though.
Using our two examples of mind magic in Aftermath as examples with Ryan and Jenny you can probably apply the same results with how the dreamwardens see it. Ryan knew what he was doing and the dreamwardens want his head, Jenny did what she did on accident and in pure ignorance so they probably wouldn't actually do any punishment to her.
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Actually... this raises a valid point I've somehow overlooked so far: What is up with this sudden zero-tolerance approach to mind magic? I mean it's not just earth's transformed ponies, but the Equestrians seemingly have a zero-tolerance approach to mind magic as well, judging by Lavender's paranoid response when she learned of Tonya's abilities, yet we know from the show that they have a very casual approach to mind magic: "Mind magic is okay. And if you screw up, just fix it and apologize."
If this kind of zero-tolerance policy was a thing in Equestria, as the story seems to hint it is, Starlight would be a drooling husk by now.
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I don't think there actually is a zero tolerance approach. I think it is one giant bluff. Yeah, they'll do bad things to the worst offenders, but the rest I think they are just intimidation factors so they don't have to sit there policing things day and night. If every night pony is convinced they'll be killed for the slightest offence they're more likely to behave as rules and standards become more ingrained.
Luna went after one pony in Equestria in the last whole generation. The chances that was all who misbehaved is highly unlikely, we know about Starlight's little foul up when she tried to do five friendship lessons at once. Luna went after the worst of the worst and didn't police everything.
Look at the punishments they give for minor things. They seem extreme, but you note that they deliberately make it so the impact fades much faster than it should. These ponies that got Sha'am mad should have PTSD but they don't. I think it's by design. Just one big intimidation factor so they get the ball rolling on ingraining things and focus on the worst offenders.
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I find this policy of keep control through extreme fear rather strange in and of itself. Not because it doesn't make sense, the threat of punishment has always been rather effective at keeping reasonable rules in effect after all, but because it seems like Luna agrees with this kind of keeping of the rules. Yet Luna would be the last pony in Equestria to want to rule through fear, since that's kinda a big part of why she went Nightmare Moon to begin with. Heck, the entire plot of Luna Eclipsed was Luna being heartbroken that ponies still feared her.
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This gets back to Luna actually thought about who she chose for the job. Luna was feared a thousand years ago and we are never given a good explanation why. A good explanation is she used these exact same tactics back then when she was establishing control. She now knows she personally isn't suited for those types of tactics, she can't emotionally deal with being that feared all the time, but that doesn't mean she objects to them. Looking at ponies like Yinyu they don't seem the types that would have this same issue and worst case scenario they have each other to confide in and emotionally support one another.
I say Luna learned from her mistakes by choosing six ponies that clearly care about the keeping minds safe, but also don't have the same problems she had with being feared. It's even in their oaths they make ponies say that fear is a good thing.