5937347 I dunno, I just like the idea of Celestia and Luna secretly being SUPER freaky. And incestuous. In the EGverse, I mean. Not in the regular MLPverse.
This has awoken a dormant memory I thought I had suppressed long ago. Several months ago, back when I was trying to think of story ideas, I had one similar to this. Just no BDSM. I don't hate it, it's just not my go to.
Either way, this was golden. That and I think I should reconsider my old thought. Any who, since you already have alike and a fav, I have but one thing to offer. PRAISE BE TO THE MOTH!
5937372 I can see it in the regular universe, too. I mean, Luna guards dreams. People (and presumably ponies) can dream some pretty fucked up shit. You'd have to either be the most stoic being ever to remain undisturbed, or already be "like that".
5937379 I read just the first sentence of your comment and my brain came to the conclusion that something very similar to this happened to you IRL and this story unlocked your suppressed memories.
This is BDSM. The whole thing the uninitiated hear about there needing to be structure and aftercare and whatnot is part of what's scientifically (psychology-wise) called 'healthy BDSM'. There are many forms and shades to it, based on the leanings, emotions, desires, and fantasies of those involved.
I've known a couple who wanted to have their partner kidnapped when they weren't expecting it (so they wouldn't know if it was part of their fantasy-fulfillment until afterwards), gagged, blind-folded, and used repeatedly while being made to watch. I hear that despite... or rather, because of how rough it was, they had an AMAZING time.
I've known people who don't even want sex to be part of it, they just want to be beaten and demeaned for a couple of hours. No safe words, no reassurances, no emotional connection. Just abused and degraded.
And despite what society will tell you, there's absolutely nothing wrong with these people. Aside from their guilty pleasures, they go back out into the harsh and stressful environment we call society and go back to their jobs and about their business and no one is any the wiser outside of those of us in our local kinkster community meet-ups.
In this universe, when Luna revealed her dominatrix persona "Nightmare Moon" to Celestia. the responce was different but similar at the same time to what append in equestria. Celestia took the news well and got out her special set of transparent dildo.
a big orange one called "Honesty"
a medium pink one with texture called "Kindness"
a medium motorised blue one called "Laughter"
a two foot long big purple one called "Generosity"
5943262 From my understanding of BDSM, I myself would actually lean this chapter more towards abuse. I say this because (I interpreted) Sunset didn't have a way to stop play, and there was no tender aftercare to help her though the experience (which was certainly more than she bargained for) and she outwardly said "no" and "stop" - unless she DID have a safe word that she refused to use. As far as those relations/times of 'no safe words, no reassurances, no emotional connection' are concerned, there are still rules/limits (but I may be a weenie, since no-limits play scares the ever-living hell out of me). What is life without kink?
I feel bad for Sunset Shimmer because she again didn't seem to enjoy herself. It felt cruel and hot but decently paced and a good balance of sincere terror. Who knows, she did get out of more detention, maybe she'll come around later.
yikes. note to self, if ever find one's self in EG world, especially as a girl, don't join those two for a night. I have a feeling those cocks were also a little created by their pony couterparts.
"HELL no!" Sunset cried. "I mean...no, they don't. I...do have lines I won't cross."
Indeed.
"Do you now," Celestia said in a soft but steely tone. "Spying on your principal and vice-principal in their own home isn't one of those lines, I see."
Oooh, low blow, she's right, but low blow.
Celestia frowned. "Young lady, that is extremely inappropriate!" Sunset arched an eyebrow. "And the things you do with your own sister aren't?"
She has a point.
Sunset shrugged. "Do your worst," she said. "At least it won't be as boring as sitting in a stuffy classroom every afternoon for two months."
5943262 Sorry, but I have to disagree here. Not on the natures of the real world people you're talking about, but that this was the case here.
Let's say that we just didn't see them give her an out onscreen or that - like in the examples you gave - the author's intent was to show that she ultimately came away satisfied even without one. That's not what the character's actions afterwards indicate.
Sunset opted to try this to avoid a punishment she hated the idea of doing. When it actually happened, she was begging and pleading to stop. As before, this alone could be played off as what you described. However, the key difference is Sunset's actions after the fact. She doesn't suggest that it was amazing. She doesn't suggest that it could be a regular thing. When given the option to do it again, she outright refuses, even opting to take the original punishment she was trying to avoid (and hated the thought of doing) rather than doing it again.
Those aren't the actions of a willing participant or someone who wanted what was happening. Whatever the author's intent, what was shown on screen was a person doing a sexual act to avoid punishment, begging for it to stop, and then refusing to do it again even if that meant accepting the punishment she was trying to avoid in the first place. That seems much closer to abuse/rape, really.
Throw in the fact that they're authority figures in her life outside of this encounter (authority figures who also have reasons to bear legit personal grudges against her) and that she is by all appearances a complete newcomer to the BDSM scene, and it definitely feels like it crosses that line. Even if we're not talking about "healthy BDSM" styles, failing to give someone with no experience in BDSM any kind of out in case they can't take it or realize it isn't what they wanted is a pretty big no-no. Failing to do so when they're coming to you because you're authority figures in their lives who agreed to get them out of another punishment that you imposed if they do it...well, is it really so hard to see why some people see this more as abuse and/or rape than bdsm?
I cringed at the part about the ice cube the rest was pretty basic BDSM but without the safe words and after care. I have never thought of doing that to a girl but then again I don't know too many women that have that high of a pain tolerance
7063970 Isn't BDSM without safe words and after care just rape? Also re-discovered why I down voted this about a year ago. I was disgusted with this chapter for using sunset as a living stress-doll for Celestia and Luna to abuse, and to vent their anger and frustration for having to deal with sunset's previous behavior.
6913960 Completely agreed... In fact, I don't see a lot of real consent in any of the chapters so far. Suggestion for new title: Everybody Rapes Sunset Shimmer
Yeah no. As someone who used to be into BDSM prior to settling down... this chapter is all kinds of turn-off for me. This was rape. Now, while Sunset did initially consent, it was clear afterwards that this flew right into rape territory, when they could see her visible distress, did not give her a safe word (as someone who hadn't been into BDSM before, they should have provided one) and yeah, just proceeded to abuse and fuck her without consent. A part of being a good, safe dom is making sure you are not doing anything your sub does not want (thus the use of a safe word, or a red/orange/green light system).
Yeah, this was just all kinds of no. Rape dressed up as BDSM, no thanks.
9155595 I happen to agree. I look back at this and wonder what the hell I was thinking. It's pure cringe. I'm often tempted to just delete this chapter entirely.
9155595 That's why I wrote a more positive version of this story, where Celestia and Luna do care for Sunset well being and give her safeword before they rape her. But are ready to stop at anytime when she say it.
Whoa...
Hmm...
Well, some detention type punishments did used to involve spankings...
Wait... So, does everybody have some ultra-dark secret sexual fetish? I mean, I'm into almost everything, but dang.
5937347 I dunno, I just like the idea of Celestia and Luna secretly being SUPER freaky. And incestuous. In the EGverse, I mean. Not in the regular MLPverse.
5937260
I completely agree.
This has awoken a dormant memory I thought I had suppressed long ago. Several months ago, back when I was trying to think of story ideas, I had one similar to this. Just no BDSM. I don't hate it, it's just not my go to.
Either way, this was golden. That and I think I should reconsider my old thought. Any who, since you already have alike and a fav, I have but one thing to offer. PRAISE BE TO THE MOTH!
5937372 I can see it in the regular universe, too. I mean, Luna guards dreams. People (and presumably ponies) can dream some pretty fucked up shit. You'd have to either be the most stoic being ever to remain undisturbed, or already be "like that".
Who's next, The Rainbooms?
Well I didn't see that coming... Now I can't wait to see who comes around next time!
That... was hot.
Honestly, I felt a little jealous of Sunset. Don't judge me.
Shit.
that was........................................ AWESOME!!!!!!
...Well. I can certainly see why you decided the disclaimer was a good idea...
'cause God DAYUM.
Jesus...
If there are two things that humans have infinite creativity about, it is how to kill other humans and how to fuck other humans.
Never thought about using a pin that way. I will have to remember that.
Will all the chapters be Sunset Shimmer be submissive?
5938799 Not necessarily.
5938859
I would be genuinely surprised.
Do Rainbow Dash next! And Big Mac!
Well, at least they let her off easy.
Somebody's gonna need a bedtime snuggle!
BUUUUUUUUUUURN
5939924 Such is the nature of smut.
5937379 I read just the first sentence of your comment and my brain came to the conclusion that something very similar to this happened to you IRL and this story unlocked your suppressed memories.
Wow, not BDSM at all, just abuse.
Hot! I love how deceptively slutty this Sunset is.
5942990
This is BDSM. The whole thing the uninitiated hear about there needing to be structure and aftercare and whatnot is part of what's scientifically (psychology-wise) called 'healthy BDSM'. There are many forms and shades to it, based on the leanings, emotions, desires, and fantasies of those involved.
I've known a couple who wanted to have their partner kidnapped when they weren't expecting it (so they wouldn't know if it was part of their fantasy-fulfillment until afterwards), gagged, blind-folded, and used repeatedly while being made to watch. I hear that despite... or rather, because of how rough it was, they had an AMAZING time.
I've known people who don't even want sex to be part of it, they just want to be beaten and demeaned for a couple of hours. No safe words, no reassurances, no emotional connection. Just abused and degraded.
And despite what society will tell you, there's absolutely nothing wrong with these people. Aside from their guilty pleasures, they go back out into the harsh and stressful environment we call society and go back to their jobs and about their business and no one is any the wiser outside of those of us in our local kinkster community meet-ups.
Oh, Sunset, you actually thought you could pull one over on Celestia? Thought you'd found a way to get off easy from detention?
5943262
you sound like a very interesting person, I am glad to have met you
If she has a corset, it's probably made of velvet or velour. Satin is too delicate to withstand the wire framing.
"Mr. Licorice"
Make... the laughing... shtap!!!!
6049161 and how, pray tell, do you know that?
In this universe, when Luna revealed her dominatrix persona "Nightmare Moon" to Celestia. the responce was different but similar at the same time to what append in equestria. Celestia took the news well and got out her special set of transparent dildo.
a big orange one called "Honesty"
a medium pink one with texture called "Kindness"
a medium motorised blue one called "Laughter"
a two foot long big purple one called "Generosity"
a motorised red anal beads called "Loyalty"
and finaly a huge motorised textured magenta one called "Magic"
then proceded to send Luna over the moon.
5943262 From my understanding of BDSM, I myself would actually lean this chapter more towards abuse. I say this because (I interpreted) Sunset didn't have a way to stop play, and there was no tender aftercare to help her though the experience (which was certainly more than she bargained for) and she outwardly said "no" and "stop" - unless she DID have a safe word that she refused to use.
As far as those relations/times of 'no safe words, no reassurances, no emotional connection' are concerned, there are still rules/limits (but I may be a weenie, since no-limits play scares the ever-living hell out of me). What is life without kink?
I feel bad for Sunset Shimmer because she again didn't seem to enjoy herself. It felt cruel and hot but decently paced and a good balance of sincere terror. Who knows, she did get out of more detention, maybe she'll come around later.
yikes. note to self, if ever find one's self in EG world, especially as a girl, don't join those two for a night. I have a feeling those cocks were also a little created by their pony couterparts.
Indeed.
Oooh, low blow, she's right, but low blow.
She has a point.
Detention is MEANT to be boring.
5943262 Sorry, but I have to disagree here. Not on the natures of the real world people you're talking about, but that this was the case here.
Let's say that we just didn't see them give her an out onscreen or that - like in the examples you gave - the author's intent was to show that she ultimately came away satisfied even without one. That's not what the character's actions afterwards indicate.
Sunset opted to try this to avoid a punishment she hated the idea of doing. When it actually happened, she was begging and pleading to stop. As before, this alone could be played off as what you described. However, the key difference is Sunset's actions after the fact. She doesn't suggest that it was amazing. She doesn't suggest that it could be a regular thing. When given the option to do it again, she outright refuses, even opting to take the original punishment she was trying to avoid (and hated the thought of doing) rather than doing it again.
Those aren't the actions of a willing participant or someone who wanted what was happening. Whatever the author's intent, what was shown on screen was a person doing a sexual act to avoid punishment, begging for it to stop, and then refusing to do it again even if that meant accepting the punishment she was trying to avoid in the first place. That seems much closer to abuse/rape, really.
Throw in the fact that they're authority figures in her life outside of this encounter (authority figures who also have reasons to bear legit personal grudges against her) and that she is by all appearances a complete newcomer to the BDSM scene, and it definitely feels like it crosses that line. Even if we're not talking about "healthy BDSM" styles, failing to give someone with no experience in BDSM any kind of out in case they can't take it or realize it isn't what they wanted is a pretty big no-no. Failing to do so when they're coming to you because you're authority figures in their lives who agreed to get them out of another punishment that you imposed if they do it...well, is it really so hard to see why some people see this more as abuse and/or rape than bdsm?
I cringed at the part about the ice cube the rest was pretty basic BDSM but without the safe words and after care. I have never thought of doing that to a girl but then again I don't know too many women that have that high of a pain tolerance
Never been a fan of BDSM, to be honest.
I almost cried I felt so bad for sunset
7063970 Isn't BDSM without safe words and after care just rape? Also re-discovered why I down voted this about a year ago. I was disgusted with this chapter for using sunset as a living stress-doll for Celestia and Luna to abuse, and to vent their anger and frustration for having to deal with sunset's previous behavior.
Man Celestia and Luna are kinky....
Geez. When you write NSFW stuff, you really lay it on thick.
6913960
Completely agreed...
In fact, I don't see a lot of real consent in any of the chapters so far.
Suggestion for new title: Everybody Rapes Sunset Shimmer
Listening to dramatic opera music made this chapter even more satisfying
I didn't care for this chapter honestly...
damn that sounds painful i feel bad
Yeah no. As someone who used to be into BDSM prior to settling down... this chapter is all kinds of turn-off for me. This was rape. Now, while Sunset did initially consent, it was clear afterwards that this flew right into rape territory, when they could see her visible distress, did not give her a safe word (as someone who hadn't been into BDSM before, they should have provided one) and yeah, just proceeded to abuse and fuck her without consent. A part of being a good, safe dom is making sure you are not doing anything your sub does not want (thus the use of a safe word, or a red/orange/green light system).
Yeah, this was just all kinds of no. Rape dressed up as BDSM, no thanks.
9155595
I happen to agree. I look back at this and wonder what the hell I was thinking. It's pure cringe. I'm often tempted to just delete this chapter entirely.
9155595
That's why I wrote a more positive version of this story, where Celestia and Luna do care for Sunset well being and give her safeword before they rape her. But are ready to stop at anytime when she say it.