Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!
Princess Celestia invites the monarch of Griffonstone over for a nice cup of tea. Unfortunately, a young Twilight's gone a little crazy after staying up for days straight reading through the entire Con Mane series. What follows just might be remembered as the worst international incident of the century.
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I had thought that Little Twilight had gotten off ridiculously easy after a poisoning until I remembered the Cutie Mark Crusaders just having to do chores after poisoning Cheerilee and Big MacIntosh. Come to think of it, those three only had to each write an essay after they unleashed a chaos god on the world. And Spike did not get punished at all after destroying half the town and trapping the Wonderbolts. What does a little kid in Equestria have to do to get sent to juvie?
Twilight definitely got off too easily. A more severe and funny punishment could have fixed this without breaking the tone of the story. Otherwise was a serviceable story, only noticeable aspect to praise would be Celestia's excellent character writing.
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Not save the day, duh
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Indeed, it was a refreshingly saintly take on Celestia. I can't recall the last time that I read a story about her where she was as incredibly nice as she is in the show.
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Eh, personally, I think all the trauma and deep guilt she faced from the whole incident, and the fact she managed to make reparations already in the sense she not only managed to prevent the very war she nearly started, she also impressed and earned Equestria the respect of a very obstinate griffon leader to such a degree that Celestia herself couldn't have quite achieved (and might have learned something to help him be a better leader himself, potentially spreading the benefits to yet other creatures and nations too by association). That on top of the lengthy grounding and community service she would also have to do I think, in the end, would be punishment enough for Twilight. It's not like she intended to cause all that chaos anyway, had done it without fully realizing the true magnitude of what she was doing and the ramifications, and was dismayed almost immediately that she had in her foolishness. To punish her further at this point just feels like kicking her while she's already down. She is, after all, still just a kid. Had she done this as an adult, then I'd probably more readily agree. But I think, given circumstances and that ultimately everything worked out perhaps better than they had started I think earns Twilight at least a little slack.
Besides, it's the Equestrian way to forgive and befriend their antagonists, Celestia included, and I see this as just following that same trend.
And anyway, the punishment's not really the important part to get out of this story anyway...and that part I think it did wonderfully.
Though that all said...I do think Twilight doesn't need the chance to read more Con Mane after this, so maybe don't snag that manuscript for her just yet, Celestia.
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Oh yeah, no doubt she should get some slack for mostly fixing her own mess, you know, apart from the guard who did get drugged and Celestia being beaten within an inch of her life--it's not exactly a no-harm-no-foul situation. Grounding a friendless bookworm with a new book, though, is the kind of punishment that she will likely forget is even happening within an hour. Like you and I both said, this is pretty much par for the course in Equestria when it comes to child discipline. I think that the worst punishment that we have ever seen a child have to endure in Tiny Horse Land was Diamond Tiara being made to wear a bunny suit and hop around for calling Granny Smith "kooky." Now that I think about it, that punishment was a bit much relative to the offense committed. I guess that a child character called Cozy Glow got turned to stone or something in one of the later seasons, but I don't know much about that.
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I'll just say that Cozy Glow was something of an exception and leave it at that.
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I mean if you think about it the punishment scale basically goes:
you're fine
you're fine
you're fine
bunny suit
tartarus
not a whole lot of uuuh, space for juvie is there?
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Don't forget "cool mustache," which was the punishment that Snips and Snails got for leading a rampaging city block-sized celestial bear into town just to see a magic show.
Coming back to this story, I still feel the same conflicting feelings about it when I first finished reading it. On one hand, the zealous Celestia fan in me wanted the griffon king and his pathetic dime-a-dozen kingdom to suffer and burn to the ground for hurting Celestia and threatening to wage war on Equestria. On the other hand, the softer and more level-headed Celestia fan in me was relieved that everything worked out in the end and that that was the objectively better outcome than, say, turning King Galahad into a fine, red paste on the side of the road - as deliciously satisfying such a retribution would be for the more insane Celestia fan in me.
However, it's this conflict of feelings that has stirred in my mind for weeks and got me thinking about how absolutely in line the ending is with the ideals of Celestia and, by extension, that of Equestria too that makes this story a favourite for me. (That refusing to stoop down to the level of evil to punish evil and instead maintaining composure and insisting on a more peaceful method is, in many ways, the better path of retribution - avoiding the possibility of proving evil right while strengthening your position of good morality.) Oh, that and the way Celestia's character is handled here. Good shit.
Okay, look. I don't know, man. Just ignore, like, 90% of this comment. I just wanted to get all that off my chest. The point is that this was a great story. I loved it. 10/10.
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I don't think Diamond was punished there. Alot of foals were in Bunny suits. I think Diamond just hated doing it. Maybe her dad forced her to participate and maybe even as a punishment but as a whole bunny suit wasn't a punishment it was just something Diamond and other children did that she didn't want to do. Like Applebloom doing it.
I think Celestia giving Twilight a book when she was grounded was because she knew Twilight is giving herself a huge punishment. Thinking herself worthless and maybe even deserving to die.
There is no need to punish a child when their thinking that way, their already punishing themselves. Childrens punishents are there for the child to learn, which is unnesccary here. I think Celestia's punishments are meant to make Twilight feel better. Community service so she doesn't feel useless, a book so she can enjoy herself. And saying she's punished so Celestia can go "you don't have to attack yourself, your already being punished."
This would be compleltly wrong if Twilight wasn't remorseful but for a kid who response to their own wrongdoing is severe self hate along with never doing it again, well the goal of the adult is the bring the child up, not rub salt into an open wound.
Wonderful story.
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Celestia is a one pony arm if she ever bothers to not play nice. Griffons are mortal after all, with none of the things she's lost to, have. A friendly reminder that Celestia literally controls the sun.
And the bird brains will remember why Equestria is still standing, and reconsider.