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Nov
8th
2022

Voice of All · 12:13pm Nov 8th, 2022

It's that time again here in the US. Election Day's here, and depending on where you live, midterms may have a big impact on the course of the country. In the interest of not throwing a hand grenade into a garbage fire, I'm saying nothing more, aside from "Please go vote if you haven't already."

Comments ( 35 )

Already done. Fortunately, I live in one of those states that makes things very easy for voters.

This is your chance to directly influence the governing of your country.

VOTE

Preferably for a party that isn't into idk jamming truncheons into women's wombs like the fucking Republicans.

I'll throw it.

RB_

Just cast my ballot, encouraging all of our US friends to do the same.

Can't complain about the after effects if you didnt vote!

Georg #7 · Nov 8th, 2022 · · 2 ·

Just got back from that. Kansas does elections right. There were exactly two people in line in front of me, and by the time I got my driver's license out, zero. Handed my license to the elderly lady to scan, verified the info that popped up on the screen and signed, picked up my ballot, walked into the room full of little booths (all busy except for one), filled in the little dots for the candidates I wanted, and put it into the scanner at the end. (where it drops into a sealed box that can be opened only for manual recounts). Easy-peasy, five minutes at most. Only downside is they weren't handing out free pens like during the plague. (it's a cool pen with a touch-pad pointer at the other end)

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Voted, now, to wait.

Here's hoping people don't get intimidated/chased away by conspiracy theorists "protecting " the vote.

They put a new polling place in the senior center literally across the street from my apartment complex, so it was very convenient.

My voting spot is right on the way to work. I was even running a little late, but the process was quick and manage to get to work with a minute to spare. Got my little "I Voted Today!" sticker on.

Went and voted early on Sunday. Gotta stay away from there when it's packed.

Always vote. Otherwise you can’t complain.

No. I'm not voting for this one, and you can't convince me to. I've already participated in one illegal election (after being forced to, mind), not planning to repeat that.

For those downvoting: I don't think you understand the context. But it is hilarious to see :rainbowlaugh:

Remember that it's your duty to be an informed voter. Read the laws that are being proposed and be aware of what they mean. And most importantly: vote for your local reps. It's the local people who will directly impact you, they are more important than the federal clown show.

I voted. Or I destroyed democracy. Depends on who you talk to.

I mean, isn't not voting a viable option? Maybe people want to boycott the current democratic system, or don't like either party, or something. I don't know about the third-plus portion of the population who abstain, but personally I'd feel a bit cheated by this "voter choice" concept if I had all of two options on a menu in a restaurant.

I already voted with a mail in ballot a while back.

I wonder how many downvotes I will get just by posting that.

5696909 Put it this way: why would the people who go to great lengths to discourage you from voting and to ensure your vote matters as little as possible be in any way unhappy about your voluntarily not voting?

Voted on the first day of early voting.

Now hoping it wasn't the last vote I'll cast that actually counts.

5696915

Because... you're not voting for them?

Because it adds up to evidence that they suck at running restaurants? Because people genuinely think their vote doesn't matter anyway? Because the fewer people vote, the more obvious the public dissatisfaction is? Because people suspect the whole thing was not really about serving people what they specifically wanted to order? I could go on.

It just seems to me wrong that people can have any choice they want, provided they only pick two and asking for anything else is somehow not acceptable.

5696919 The thing is, these people have their supporters, and they will make damn sure THEY get to the polls. And they will do what they can to keep NON-supporters from going. They don't care how few people actually vote, so long as the votes cast favor them.

When you abstain from voting, you're doing them a favor.

5696909
By choosing not to vote you are still making a choice - but it's not "I dislike both" but rather the one named "I don't care who governs me". First-past-the-post systems are inheritly flawed

but unless you show there is desire to change that things won't change... and by not voting you seem to express "I just don't care" instead of "I want change"...

Also by not voting you lose ANY right to complain about how politics are going: Your choice was "I don't care" and you got what you wanted. (At least thats how I feel)

So, please do whatever you can to change this flawed system, but at the same time consider submitting your vote anyway, because not voting signals more "don't care" than anything else (if need be, perhaps give your vote to the group that you feel is most likely to fix the system - and make your voice heard to them that you want change)

5696941

If you're talking about Republicans, why don't you just say so? Unless you're implying the Dems are just as bad or worse, it seems a needlessly cagey way to couch it.

5696982

First-past-the-post systems are inheritly flawed

Isn't this a major argument for not participating in it, then? To say nothing of the fact that the system's been in place for decades between rotating parties, apparently with no such reform before now. I don't blame people for feeling disillusioned about it.

Also by not voting you lose ANY right to complain about how politics are going:

Unless this is some cosmic law or biological imperative, it boils down to a choice on your or other people's parts. And it sounds like an excuse to belittle people who disagree with you. Who are you to dictate what people can and can't complain about?

It's bad enough there's a sizeable portion of the population who apparently have no faith in the political system, without others coming along telling them they're inferior second-class citizens for doing so and should therefore shut up. I mean, emotional blackmail isn't exactly a reason, is it?

because not voting signals more "don't care" than anything else

And that's my point. Maybe people genuinely don't care what happens, because as far as they can see, it doesn't matter what happens. Are they just not allowed to feel that way?

I mean, fine, if you want to persuade people that voting for the Democrats will lead to electoral reform, that's fair game bona fide political argument. But it seems at times like you're crossing the line into personally insulting people you disagree with, and that's something else entirely.

5697002 Republicans are far and away the ones most aggressively seeking to suppress the vote and fix the outcome of elections in advance, but that has NOT always been the case and probably won't always be the case. That's why I didn't call them out in particular; I'm speaking of a general principle in this case, not to current events.

The only tool we have in a democracy (or a republic if you insist) to keep politicians even slightly honest is the vote. It's not a great tool, but it's what we have- the power, at least in theory, to put in good people and vote out the worse ones. People staying home just gives more power to the most organized machines and the most skilled con artists. They don't know why you stayed home. They don't CARE why you stayed home. If you stayed home all the time, that'd be GREAT for them. When you don't vote, they don't care, period.

Wow, 11 downvotes, that's a new personal record. So that's eleven people who either:
a) really dislike Jeff Dunham or
b) are irked by the prospect of a European remarking he'll not be voting in an American election he's not eligible to vote in and would require a plane flight to even attend.

I thought FoME would get the joke, but maybe they haven't gotten to it yet.

And yes, that bit about mandatory yet illegal voting was factually accurate: Supreme Court ruled the elections to be unconstitutional, but elections went ahead as it was, and voting is mandatory here. Even after the changes, it's still a pretty messed up system.

5697060

I thought FoME would get the joke, but maybe they haven't gotten to it yet.

Polite reminder that people may not know where you live, and that "illegal election" carries some... let's say baggage after the whole "numerous frivolous court battles and attempted insurrection" thing.

5697062
Hence why I thought you'd point it out. But hey, live and learn, suppose.

Edit: also, anyone can just ask for clarification on the matter. Seeing knee-jerk reactions during a time when people are making important choices... seems like an appropriate thing to check for, too. Not every joke's gonna land on its feet, obviously.

5697060
I'm a European (UK), and I'm very well aware how highly charged the phrase "illegal election" is for Americans. Mind you, part of that is because the British media tends to be obsessed by US politics to what I consider an excessive degree.

5697076
Noted. Won't happen again.

5697060 Bear in mind that in the South "cracker" is a very strong perjorative for poor-to-middle-class white people of a racist mindset. (It's short for "whipcracker", and it refers to the social class that slave overseers came from.) So, unintentionally, you've chosen a nickname which might also be chosen by a "deplorable" or MAGA supporter or Proud Boy, etc.- embracing the stereotype and doubling down on it.

So, talking about illegal elections, with that nickname, to people who don't know where you actually live? Unfortunate.

5697100
Never mind the fact that I chose the nickname in 2012 (which a quick trip to my page would show), as a nod to someone I admired and share the birthday with, as well as the fact that it was a fitting pony name in the first place, compared to a name like Seabiscuit.

Mais non, you're right, all things must be seen through an anglophone lens, and should be expected to adhere to anglophone sensibilities and anglophone sensibilities alone. I should probably know better by now and post 'chaoist' up higher on my profile page where people post their pronouns, maybe that'll be more of a hint.

On the bright side, this has been good exercise, at least. Started with sacrilege, moved right on to iconoclasm. You have my thanks.

5697174
Well, the anglophone sector of the community's going to see things through an anglophone lens, especially on a blog post about American politics. A disclaimer along the lines of "Note: I'm watching the madness from outside the asylum" might help next time. :raritywink:

5697194
Right... next time.:raritywink:

Edit: I'll be sure to change my username to something less offensive by then, too, just for good measure. 'Soft Nicker' came to mind, keeping with the pony names, but I'm guessing that might set off a few other alarm bells. The British'll probably think I dropped the silent 'k' or something.

5697060
Perhaps (English being a second language for you) you aren't aware of how abrasive your textural tone is? Maybe the downvoters think you're deliberately being snide and condescending and are primarily reacting to that. Have you considered that possibility?

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