3675676 Good point. It's going to be interesting to see how far she can and will go. Rainbow Dash indeed appears to be mainly straight; Twilight herself, not so much, even if she's hesitant to admit it. If Twilight messes with Rainbow's orientation on top of feeding her mind control fetish, who's to say that she won't do so with other ponies? After all, "I'm doing this to help them" is a powerful lie, and can be applied to pretty much everypony...
sooo im not sure i understood how this purple magic is any different from normal magic and why it matters at all , chaso magic is something distinct enough to understand the difference and relevance of to regular pony magic.....
This is going to awesome places and I love it. Will there be anything about what the others observe about Twi and RD as this schmozzle gets worse and worse?
3679869 Caught and corrected. And chances are you won't enjoy it, actually, but what it then leads up to should be legendary. I just have to actually go and write it. Rubber will be involved.
Oh no, Twilight is going to some very dangerous places. I can only hope her friendship with Rainbow survives this. Also I've lost track, in this story is Rainbow Straight? Also what's Twilights orientation?
Loved the chapter and Twilight's impatience is easy to understand in this one. I don't feel it's rushed with these developments, but the story isn't going the long way around it, either. It seems a clear, concise and well-measured storyline has been written to deliver what the title promises.
In response to the Author's Note: I have not read any of the stories you appear to have borrowed these concepts from, but I have to agree with your assesment that this one stands well enough on its own. In fact, no other story I have found has paid this much attention to delivering a 'realistic' scenario involving this level of dominance. I also respect your adherence to your planned storyline regardless of readers disliking the development. If a story is written well, it can deliver any outcome the author needs to express, even a worst-case scenario.
As a reader I don't like to pose demands or make suggestions about which direction this needs to go in to really cator to me, personally. So please take this story as far as you like and I'll read it because so far this stuff is brilliant.
3703202 You'll have to be a bit more specific, I'm afraid. Physical bondage isn't really something that goes with standard hypnosis to begin with. Strapping subjects down to force them to watch a brainwashing video or forcefeed them a MacGuffin is about as far as that usually goes. Mental bondage, as in the body and mind doing things the subject isn't fully in control of, will be fairly prevalent, much like it has been so far. The story was added to the BDSM group in the D/S folder, I think (wasn't me doing the adding), and that only means there's one pony being the dominant and one being the submissive, it doesn't say anything about bondage being used.
But if I understand you correctly, the biggest worry is whether or not the relationship becomes abusive. It doesn't. I chose not to go that angle because a) it's been done b) I couldn't come up with any real way to add something new to that concept and c) in my experience, the more the disturbing stuff resembles something that might happen on the show, the more disturbing it gets. An actual abusive relationship is hard to make show accurate, and all in all I don't think I'd have as much fun writing that as I am this. This isn't one of my flagship fics, this is something I'm writing for fun (and to get exposure, but that's a given ).
So while the story will deal with loss of control, dominance and submission, it will not do so to the exclusion of everything else. It won't get (too?) abusive, and there will be scenes like before that show just day-to-day life going on.
Wow, this latest chapter got pretty dark. Twilight seems to be mentally corrupting herself along with Rainbow.
That aside, it's hard to find mind control stuff that doesn't make me run away screaming (can haz triggers?), so well done thus far.
“Oh my, can you really do that with your tongue? Either this author’s really well-read on shapeshifting spells, or he doesn’t know what he’s doing and just doesn’t care about anatomy.”
3703644 Thank you for the quick response! It kind of does... So, there is no actual physical bondage or SM in this fic? I can deal with the mental dom/sub, that's not that big of a deal. Even some light movement restriction (like hands being tied to bed posts) and blind folding doesn't bother me, but ball gags, whips, chains, and those weird arm/leg movement restricting things are too much for me. That's specifically what I was curious about.
I could just go ahead and set it up. It’s not like it’s forbidden magic or anything. My mind is still clear, I don’t feel the way I did when I tried that purple magic on myself the other day.
Which is probablly a really bad thing Twilight. That feeling kept you from embracing the possibilities of chaos magic like you do now
I'm a bit bothered by the fact that Dash's Master was an Alicorn that smelled like lavender, just like Twilight is an Alicorn who smelled like lavender. Is that just a coincidence, like "Twilight introduced me to the idea of being a pet, so Imma give my Master Twilight-like traits" or is it more along the lines of Twilight slowly corrupting Dash?
I really love the mutual corruption aspect of hypnosis. In fiction, it’s incredibly hot, and in real life, it can be an incredible confidence boost and tool for self-discovery.
The object of the exercise is to conspire against the values one holds dear. The easiest and safest way to do this is through erotic fantasy, ... Likewise, if obsession does appear in the mage’s mind, it is a simple matter of either abstaining or stimulating oneself without the use of mental imagery.
So ... Twilight, if a book is telling you to go against the values you hold dear, that should be a warning. And if the book is saying that you can avoid going too far by masturbation, then you probably should consider it.
I’d never turn on my friends. I’d never make love to a mare, let alone a friend.
Umm ... did you forget this in the upcoming chapters? :-)
Well ... going against what you hold dear: check. Keeping yourself on the proper side of the moral event horizon: what's the attractive force of black (hole) magic on a magic-crazed unicorn like Twilight or Starlight? :-).
I can't help but wonder, who is Twilight putting more effort into brainwashing? Rainbow Dash, or herself?
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Good point. It's going to be interesting to see how far she can and will go. Rainbow Dash indeed appears to be mainly straight; Twilight herself, not so much, even if she's hesitant to admit it. If Twilight messes with Rainbow's orientation on top of feeding her mind control fetish, who's to say that she won't do so with other ponies? After all, "I'm doing this to help them" is a powerful lie, and can be applied to pretty much everypony...
I can see no possible way for this to go horribly wrong.![:pinkiehappy:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/pinkiehappy.png)
Seems like Twilight lost her patience a little fast, but otherwise I have no complaints.
It seems that Twilight is about to go mad with power! And knowning her track record it won't end well.![:pinkiecrazy:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/pinkiecrazy.png)
sooo im not sure i understood how this purple magic is any different from normal magic and why it matters at all , chaso magic is something distinct enough to understand the difference and relevance of to regular pony magic.....
Dear Princess Sparkle
When traversing slippery moral ground, it is important to get off the freaking bobsled!
Yeeeesssss, Twilight, yeeeessssssss!
This is going to awesome places and I love it. Will there be anything about what the others observe about Twi and RD as this schmozzle gets worse and worse?
3678001 You're no fun.
Oh I am gonna enjoy where this is going~
The word "factoid" means false fact, not little fact.
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Caught and corrected. And chances are you won't enjoy it, actually, but what it then leads up to should be legendary. I just have to actually go and write it. Rubber will be involved.
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I love rubber <3
Oh no, Twilight is going to some very dangerous places.
I can only hope her friendship with Rainbow survives this. Also I've lost track, in this story is Rainbow Straight? Also what's Twilights orientation?
3661514 lol![:rainbowkiss:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/rainbowkiss.png)
![:rainbowlaugh:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/rainbowlaugh.png)
![:pinkiehappy:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/pinkiehappy.png)
![:twilightblush:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/twilightblush.png)
Loved the chapter and Twilight's impatience is easy to understand in this one. I don't feel it's rushed with these developments, but the story isn't going the long way around it, either. It seems a clear, concise and well-measured storyline has been written to deliver what the title promises.
In response to the Author's Note: I have not read any of the stories you appear to have borrowed these concepts from, but I have to agree with your assesment that this one stands well enough on its own. In fact, no other story I have found has paid this much attention to delivering a 'realistic' scenario involving this level of dominance. I also respect your adherence to your planned storyline regardless of readers disliking the development. If a story is written well, it can deliver any outcome the author needs to express, even a worst-case scenario.
As a reader I don't like to pose demands or make suggestions about which direction this needs to go in to really cator to me, personally. So please take this story as far as you like and I'll read it because so far this stuff is brilliant.
Uh oh, this isn't going to end well...![:unsuresweetie:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/unsuresweetie.png)
I'd like to know, since BDSM isn't my thing, how heavy is it in this fic?
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You'll have to be a bit more specific, I'm afraid. Physical bondage isn't really something that goes with standard hypnosis to begin with. Strapping subjects down to force them to watch a brainwashing video or forcefeed them a MacGuffin is about as far as that usually goes. Mental bondage, as in the body and mind doing things the subject isn't fully in control of, will be fairly prevalent, much like it has been so far. The story was added to the BDSM group in the D/S folder, I think (wasn't me doing the adding), and that only means there's one pony being the dominant and one being the submissive, it doesn't say anything about bondage being used.
But if I understand you correctly, the biggest worry is whether or not the relationship becomes abusive. It doesn't. I chose not to go that angle because a) it's been done b) I couldn't come up with any real way to add something new to that concept and c) in my experience, the more the disturbing stuff resembles something that might happen on the show, the more disturbing it gets. An actual abusive relationship is hard to make show accurate, and all in all I don't think I'd have as much fun writing that as I am this. This isn't one of my flagship fics, this is something I'm writing for fun (and to get exposure, but that's a given
).
So while the story will deal with loss of control, dominance and submission, it will not do so to the exclusion of everything else. It won't get (too?) abusive, and there will be scenes like before that show just day-to-day life going on.
Hope that wall of text answers your question.
Wow, this latest chapter got pretty dark.
Twilight seems to be mentally corrupting herself along with Rainbow.
That aside, it's hard to find mind control stuff that doesn't make me run away screaming (can haz triggers?), so well done thus far.
3677592![:twilightoops:](https://static.fimfiction.net/images/emoticons/twilightoops.png)
Why is Princess Luna a toaster?
3703644 Thank you for the quick response! It kind of does... So, there is no actual physical bondage or SM in this fic? I can deal with the mental dom/sub, that's not that big of a deal. Even some light movement restriction (like hands being tied to bed posts) and blind folding doesn't bother me, but ball gags, whips, chains, and those weird arm/leg movement restricting things are too much for me. That's specifically what I was curious about.
3703812 SHE'S NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!................
Which is probablly a really bad thing Twilight. That feeling kept you from embracing the possibilities of chaos magic like you do now
I'm a bit bothered by the fact that Dash's Master was an Alicorn that smelled like lavender, just like Twilight is an Alicorn who smelled like lavender. Is that just a coincidence, like "Twilight introduced me to the idea of being a pet, so Imma give my Master Twilight-like traits" or is it more along the lines of Twilight slowly corrupting Dash?
What about colts with the same condition?
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Straight to the glue factory :P
I really love the mutual corruption aspect of hypnosis. In fiction, it’s incredibly hot, and in real life, it can be an incredible confidence boost and tool for self-discovery.
So ... Twilight, if a book is telling you to go against the values you hold dear, that should be a warning. And if the book is saying that you can avoid going too far by masturbation, then you probably should consider it.
Umm ... did you forget this in the upcoming chapters? :-)
Well ... going against what you hold dear: check.
Keeping yourself on the proper side of the moral event horizon: what's the attractive force of black (hole) magic on a magic-crazed unicorn like Twilight or Starlight? :-).