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I don't know if he ever truly gave her a chance. Having her leave was on his mind so much that he never thought about a way to make it work. Understandable seeing as the arrangement since the beginning but he really could have done more than what he did. Setting things straight fast is always best and he didn't do that, so it lead to this.
I kinda saw this coming. He was hesitant from the start, and only accepted Fluttershy because Rarity browbeat him into it. The next chapter is going to involve a lot of crying, isn't it?
Right in the feels... gonna go have a sympathetic cry now...
Ugh... Typical. 'It's always the man's fault' and the damn mares can do no wrong...
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This chapter, it was the cat.
Next chapter, it will be you.
With the main conflict solved, or at least put on the back burner. The problem that has been building since the beginning has finally reached its boiling point. I can not see this resolving without a lot of hurt feelings and tears. I have a feeling it will affect the performance of the play a bit as well. One way or the other this story has really gripped me from the beginning. I really found this chapter entertaining and engaging, and I await the next installment with bated breathe.
It's sad he hadn't warmed to Shy to try a love triangle.
Prepare for shitstorm of emotion and heart break.
The protag is right. This thing was supposed to just be a temporary solution, but Rarity got it in her mind that it was something more.
Rarity assuming that he was all for a three way dance is actually kind of selfish, especially after he has shown so much love for her. I'm glad that some sort of baseline has been set for the Fluttershy situation, now Rarity just needs to come to grips with it.
Yep. I knew this was gonna happen. Next chapter is DRAMA!
Dang, drama just got real!
Yes rarity, be upset that your man only want's to love you and not somebody else, how dare he not love more mares!
well.. this was expected but not hoped-for.. I think a relationship with both of them would work out, even is one is the wife and the other the mistress (especially when they both love each other already), but the story apparently didn't have enough drama already....
now I feel like an ass for making flutters sad, let's hope the next chapter finds a favourable solution and doesn't take to long (although I think 1 chapter a month is ok with their length)
he was apprehensive about it from the start. and rarity kinda just pushed it onto him. shes really being a jerk about it.
It's pretty sad that Rarity can't forgive "me" or at least understand "my" actions, considering she's done the same thing, twice. (Cashmere and Spike - though he's not really in this story) We'll see if she realises that next chapter.
I always love reading these but hate when they end. I never have any clue as to how Dresfab will pull off the chapters he writes, but he always does so flawlessly. I enjoy the character of Rarity the most of the mane6 but this chapter had me kind of sad/raging. I never liked how the show would portray her as self centered, maybe because she is my fav and I'm biased. This chapter I kinda felt that she just steamrolled the dude and was being just that. I understand it was a delicate situation and all, that she loves Flutters and doesn't want her to be Cashmere 2.0 but..... RAAAGGHH! You can write some really outstanding drama sometimes Dresfab.
Glad to see you're still pressing on with the deconstruction which is a refreshing take on the matter.
All parties are at fault here, some more than others.
Fluttershy has the best excuse: namely she's vulnerable, lonely, and completely inexperienced in such matters. Silly for her to get involved in the first place, but understandable.
Our protagonist should have raised his objections more forcefully, though it should be noted that he did raise them on several occasions to Rarity, including making most of the same noises when things started in the first place. And again, combine that with a lack of experience of being in a long-term relationship. Dropping the L word was a stupid move though, even if it was a very difficult situation.
Rarity has to take most of the blame, as much as I love her character. From giving Fluttershy allowances with no consultation (such as inviting Fluttershy to stay in their bed), to being somewhat dismissive of the protagonist's objections to the situation. The protagonist is also completely right in saying it was supposed to be temporary, that it's causing Fluttershy to get too attached, and it's essentially moving the goalposts.
My own personal interpretation would that she jumped at the chance to get with Fluttershy, and deluded herself into thinking it was for a good reason. While some of those reasons were indeed valid points, it's a poor solution to the problem, which is why very few people help their friends in such a manner. It also wouldn't be the first time she's deluded herself as we've seen with Cashmere. Perhaps something of an irony that in-story, what appears to be the most experienced and knowledgeable character seems to have made the biggest mistakes.
So all this said, I do hope the blame is fairly dished out when the time comes. And to be fair, I think you've gone a good job of making both members of our couple likeable but slightly flawed so far without unfairly portioning the blame.
Time for me to talk to someone. Seems the biggest issue is that breech of loyalty that the protagonist is fighting. Maybe he should talk Rainbow and AJ for some help. Now Rarity was hoping that despite protagonist's early objections when this whole thing started he would have eventually fallen in love with Fluttershy as well. Obviously not everything can go according to plan.
A silly idea, can you do a non-canon side chapter where the Protagonist lives the events of the last episode of season 3? He goes to bed one night with Rarity and wakes in the morning with Applejack by his side. General madness abounds.
I think this the crowing moment where the final test is put on the characters, Fluttershy has to confront the demons of what she really want, and if she really want to make this triangle permanent.
Rarity is conflicted between anger at you for keep quiet, and guilt to push to this situation.
And finally, you, with the married propose coming soon are in a war with your feelings, you said you don't love her, but you said it without thinking, you are just incredible confuse and like Cash said, you incredible loyal, I think the real problem is that in the back of your head you still think you are cheating on Rarity and that is killing you, but the true is, I think you are falling for her as much as she is for you. You are just very afraid to admit it
All reduced in a question the 3 of you are probably thinking or going to end thinking: Did I want to this to be permanent?
And if all of you can past the final test then you will be ready for take the final step in the relationship, the step that is just scaring all of you since it was brought up the first time.
In my opinion I will love that the 3 of you will stay together, in one big happy family…
Ok that was my rational and understanding side (You did a incredible job presenting this situation in witch I want the 3 of them to end together) My pervert side wants that you make them and Cashmere to put the royal canterlot voice to shame, and give Cash a final closure (yeah even my pervert side, want the best and the enjoyment of all present in the party, it increase the pleasure 250% don't judge me)
And so the drama keeps on escalating as our hero fights the headcrab zombies (AKA, soul sucking bitches)!
Rarity pretty much created this whole situation because she wanted Fluttershy too. And then she bullied the protagonist into all this using the "it's the right thing to do" and "if you love me you'd try to see it my way" cards.
Then she has the gall to talk down to him, like this is all his fault? Please.
Although, what could have prevented all this is if the guy had the balls to tell Rarity that this was a retarded idea from the start. If both of them weren't committed to taking this to the end, he shouldn't have even agreed in the first place.
I just hope everything turns out okay in the end.
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You know what's weird? Right now, our protagonist has all of no one but himself to turn to. The number of people who know about the whole situation with him, Rarity, and Fluttershy has been deliberately kept very low. He can't talk to Rarity because she's part of it, he can't talk to Fluttershy because she's part of it, and talking to yourself isn't very healthy. He's got absolutely no one who could hear him out on this...
... except Cashmere.
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What about Pipe and his wife?
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Huh. Guess you're right, I'm misremembering. I recall him having danced around the issue a lot, but not actually breaching it. He did though. Apologies.
Thank god he finally said something.... him dragging this moment out was killing me. Back to just the two of them finally
In other news, the TV Tropes page is now up to date!
Only 2 new tropes Dref, that's way below average. I'm very disappointed that I don't have to spend hours of my life analysing them! Wait...
Wow. So much emotion and drama! I can honestly say, I didn't see that coming. No, wait, I did.
Another fine chapter in a wonderful story. And you certainly know how to write a good one.
I surrender my lack of literary prowess to you, so that you may use it to feed your ever-improving creativity!
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You and me both. I just wish I could write as well as he does. Guess I can scratch writing off as another thing I've failed miserably at.
sour about that ending but its been along time coming
Ah damn it...
This was going to happen eventually...but none of us wanted it to! I just hope that everything will be sorted!
I.. I can't go on reading this, I'm really sorry about all this, but after getting so emotionally invested and praying that he develops feelings for Fluttershy, after all the times I cheered whenever there was a "Dawwww." moment or whenever they made just a tiny bit more progress, this was just a little too much for me. I feared this would happen after first reading his reservations and now it has, thank you Drefsab for a wonderful story, I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors.
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That's your choice, and it's fine if you don't want to read it, but I never stated that this was going to turn into a three-way, happy-go-lucky romance where everyone gets along just fine and never has any reservations what-so-ever. This story is, at its very core, my best attempt at a realistic, working relationship between a very unlikely couple. Everyone has a threesome fantasy; it's the most common fantasy around. And there's lots and lots of stories out there that fulfill that fantasy to varying degrees of satisfaction.
But how many of them ever actually stopped and considered the real, very complex issues that such a relationship would involve? Not many that I've seen. Love between two people is hard enough; love between three would be a nightmare to properly work out.
If you want the protag to fall in love with Fluttershy with ease, then I'm afraid you've been reading the wrong story.
I was gonna post a pony face here, but as a wise man once said: "There is no emoticon for how I am feeling!"
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I don't know. I kinda like broken hearts all over the place.
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This strikes me as an extremely childish mentality. In both fiction and the real world, things don't go as planned. Relationships fail, people die, bad things happen, and so on. Yet you're refusing to read a story simply because you don't like the outcome and it's not all sunshine and rainbows?
Now let's say for instance that the relationship between the protagonist and Rarity failed because of this. If it were to hypothetically happen, I'd probably stop reading this (or given that this is near the end, I'd curse Dref's name and send him a strongly worded letter before mentally retconning it from existence), but not for the reason you might think; it would instead be because it's thematically inconsistent with the established tone of the work. Because the entire story has been about how the two share such a powerful relationship despite the challenges they've faced, that for the plot/narrative to come along at the final hurdle and slap you in the face would make no sense and would be extremely unsatisfying.
But this isn't the case with Fluttershy because the narrative has never made out they're the other's true love and soul mate. The protagonist has had doubts from day 1, there are numerous hints that he doesn't - and cannot - share the same level of affection with her. That the flaws of various characters are instead creating a ticking time bomb that's finally about to explode in their faces.
Ultimately of course it's your right to read or stop reading something for whatever reason you wish. But as I said, it's indicative of a very child-like mentality, and not worthy of respect.
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As I've said in the past, it's the very fact that you haven't degenerated it into inane wish-fulfilment that convinced me to continue giving this story a chance. There's certainly plenty I could say on the matter, and I probably will do so when this is finally finished and I review the entire thing, but as long as you continue to build the relationships up realistically then I'll support that.
You're completely right when you all but state that there's nothing else (or very little) that actually gives the matter serious thought. But then again, 99.9% of fics out there don't even bother to give ANY of the relationships within serious thought; the protagonist-Rarity relationship is one of the most developed ones I've read in any fanfic, and that's why I find this story so compelling.
2316342 Thank you
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I couldn't care less what you think of me; it's not wrong, nor is it implicitly childish to wish for a happy ending. I read to feel good, reading things that make me feel positively wretched inside is not my idea of a good time and I'm not one to stick it out because that somehow makes me more "respectable"; I could sit here and argue all day that there's nothing wrong with relationships between multiple consenting adults, I could sit here and whine like a child that I didn't get my way, but I have decided to leave instead of harping on about how everything is "ruined" because I know that isn't fair to the author, because I know that, in the end, this is his story and his plot, and that so far I have enjoyed it immensely, so it is out of respect for him and his story that I am removing myself before I become part of the problem.
*That said I would like to apologize for my outburst, I was inexplicably struck with the need to make my feelings known after I read the last chapter and in no way desire to make the author or anybody else feel bad about themselves.
I swear if this ends in Rarity breaking up with Anon i will never forgive you.
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I feel the need to say that I support Background Noise even if I think the decision is a little silly. Each of us is looking for certain things in what we read, and if we don't get that then we find something else. Criticizing him for leaving after finding that the story isn't going to go where he hoped is pretty silly in and of itself. Should he be forced to read the rest of the story even after he stopped liking it? I don't get what the alternative to him leaving is supposed to be.
So I support him. There are stories that I regret reading, and I won't tell him that he can't decide that he doesn't like the story after seeing some of it.
P.S. We're still making two very big assumptions about the story. 1: Fluttershy won't be included. 2: "You" and Rarity will remain together. Sure the evidence hints at certain conclusions, but the answers aren't carved in stone yet.
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I'm rather baffled by your response because it sounds as if you've missed the point entirely. You admit the decision is silly, yet criticise me for commenting when my entire point is how silly the decision is. I fail to comprehend how criticising silly behaviour is itself silly.
The alternative solution is so obvious that I'm surprised I even have to mention it: grow up and stop being so foolish. Either that or pay attention to what you've signed up for; it's not as if this pretended to be a Fluttershy fic in disguise from the get go. In fact, before Fluttershy even enters the picture you'll already had to read the equivalent of a novel just to get there.
Frankly, I couldn't care less how other people choose to spend their time, and I don't appreciate you twisting my words. Background Noise has every right to feel that way and refuse to read the story because of it. And I have every right to reply to that comment with "this is silly" (a right you yourself have exercised), without having it misconstrued into me telling him how he should spend his time.
Incidentally I'm not making any assumptions about the story, though I do actually know several of Dref's reasons for writing this and on that basis alone I can predict the odds of things going completely south with Rarity are very unlikely. And that's before I stop to look at the story itself; if you read my comment carefully you'll notice my actual argument is instead based around literary criticism and analysis instead of merely what I'd like to see.
Dref can do whatever he wants as the author, but given that he's demonstrated considerable writing skills, it's not really assuming much that Rarity ain't gonna go bye bye permanently over this. Just like it's not assuming much when I say that the protagonist actually turning out to be a sapient wardrobe in human form isn't going to happen because it would also be ridiculously bad story telling.
Actually, that last one could be a rather intriguing plot development. I mean, how many stories have you read where the protagonist is actually a piece of furniture?
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So what you're saying is that you do care then, as it's possible for you to care less but you have chosen not to do so?
Pay attention to grammar and logic kids!
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What I completely failed at was saying that I think your original response, where you called him "childish," was overly harsh. You didn't just disagree with his choice, you insulted him for it. I was trying to walk the line of agreeing with you that lacking a three-way with Fluttershy doesn't seem like something to get hung up on, but also not approving of how you said it.
That said, part of the reason I empathize with him is that we all have expectations of the stories we read, and sometimes the story ends up going in a different direction so we lose interest (hence the comment about assumptions). That kind of difference in expectations versus where the story goes is why I've always regretted reading "Heavenly Turmoil." I was expecting some nasty things to happen, but I was also expecting Celestia to live.
Drefsab. The work. It's good. Keep it up.
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Thank you for clarifying, but trust me, in terms of harshness that's nothing. I may have been blunt, but harsh? No, that's me being mild.
It's one thing to give up on the story if it veers off the rails; that's bad storytelling. It's another thing to get on the wrong train after missing 10 different announcements, all the signs, and then to finally realise it after several hours into your journey.
I've always been an avid reader and I've read a lot of stories. And not all those stories have their happy endings. However, there is a difference between something bad happening because it follows, verses something bad happening because the author has forced it; the only example of an ending I can truly say I hated is one where an author killed off a character at the final hurdle, ostensibly to show how terrible war is when it completely contradicts the existing themes throughout.
And I can separate out my enjoyment of a story from my enjoyment (or hatred) of what happens to a character; the two are not the same and it's bad form to conflate them.
Storytelling is also an interesting exercise in balancing expectations verses unpredictability. Something that's perfectly predicable will usually feel unsatisfying to most. Too surprising and it becomes frustrating.
Edit: Gotta love the person who downvoted all my comments, even those unrelated to the original. If you've got something to say, say it instead of being petty.
Whoa, um what was wrong with my earlier comment to deserve such a negative rating?
I do so enjoy this wonderfully written story.
Thanks so much for writing it!
This chapter is a perfect example of why I tend to prefer stories that are not first person, because according to this story, "I" don't understand my own feeling and "I" am to afraid to confront the issue before it gets to big to be easily resolved. I can understand the attraction of reading a story where "I" am a character, but every time the character does something that is OOC for me, I get snapped out of the immersion.
Let me be clear though, I do like the story, but I personally would enjoy it more if it was someone else that was going through this, and not "me". The perspective is not enough for me to dislike the story, or to even withhold a thumbs up, but if the star rating system was still in use, the perspective would be the difference between a 4 and a 5 rating.
Edit: Though this was the most recent chapter, oops.
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Well............
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We all knew that was coming. Guess it's time for another nightmare
This made 59 out of us 139 laugh our flanks off. Nice job.
Oh man... oh man, oh man, oh man... shiiiiiit... this just got real... I seriously teared up along with the protagonist at the end of this chapter.
Everyone's debating aside, this story has me entranced. I must keep going to see how this ends... for better or worse.
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When I saw this, words cannot express how grateful I felt knowing that the story is already finished. Loved your used of Back to the Future's "To Be Continued..." >w<
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I managed to not cry this time, but oh did it pull at the heartstrings something fierce. A tense moment where a relationship hangs in the balance; where one wrong move can irrevocably tip the scale towards a happy or cruel end. I have to remind myself that I'm reading a fic about ponies at times.
And yet I love it all the same.
Well the ball is dropped and the truth is out on Anon's part. Me personally, I would have questioned Rarity's judgement on it a long time ago. Not in a mean way mind you but I would have asked her if this is seriously something that would actually be healthy to the relationship in the long run, and even brought up the what if's of marriage and how asking one to marry you would upset the other. This also isn't my story though and at the same time I very well could have, in the heat of the moment done exactly what this version of.... well "me" may have done. Because no one is perfect, and no one is ever going to be able to have the exact right answer at the exact right time, it will always be hindsight is 20/20 instead of foresight. Because sometimes... we just don't know what to do and we do the first thing that comes to mind. I'm anxious to see now how this is going to be resolved. As always Drefsab... you have made a remarkable story.