Star Sparkle. Accomplished author, diplomat, historian and mother to one of the most famous mares in Equestrian history. She has no regrets, but she does have a problem: she ran out of gin last night. And her daughter is marrying an ape.
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I suspect Cadance and Shining are responsible for the missing liquor. Too bad the effort was in vain. It's amazing how unlikable Star is.
See this, Star? Do you know what this is?
This is your kids cutting you out of their lives, slice by slice, piece by piece. And it's hard not to say "good riddance."
Also, the irony of Star calling anypony else 'oversexed' is staggering.
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This times a thousand.
And this especially this.
In a way, I actually admire Star...
If you think about it, she's actually living up to the Equestrian cardinal virtue of Honesty to the point where she might equal Applejack in that one regard.
It's just that Star is so brutally honest about what an utter, utter self-centered nag she is, that she might as well be a poster-child why honesty can end friendships as easily as it aids them.
Proof you can admire, loathe and pity somebody, I guess...
Archonix, you may make us wait, but it can never be said it's not worth the wait.
Star does make a fair point, however self-centered her motivations for making it is- (which is sort of a microcosm of her nature- insightful, but self-centered). Cadance is a bizarre anomaly- the Equestrian Princess of Love, but whose chosen romance relationship is decidenly not matching up to the Equestrian ideal of love.
It's a bit odd, the more you think about it.
Honestly, both her confrontation with Luna and her history of broken promises is sort of the crux of her character- she's always been looking for her big discovery, her big breakthrough, the thing that will rewrite the history books and firmly plant her in them... After all, surely that next trip will be the one, and make up for all the promises she broke, and the feet she stepped on, right?
Problem is now she's increasingly finding herself on the wrong side of the river, with all the bridges thoroughly burned by her own hoof, and no idea how to swim... And by the whims if cruel fate, has nothing to show for it.
On a tangentially related note, this makes me wonder about the rest of the herd's in-laws. We know Dash's family is a train wreck in a completely different fashion, but we know nothing about Lyra's family, which makes me intently curious about them.
Luna should have just vaporized Star and done the world a tremendous favour. It is disgusting how insulting she speaks about even Celestia, who is a thousand times the mare she will ever be, knows more than she ever will no matter how many petty expeditions Star goes on, who faced a lot more than Star ever will and basically is the reason Star can even go on her retarded expeditions to begin with due to making the world a peaceful place! And still, still this whore think she can get away with every shit stunt she pulls, all the shit she spews from her mouth, even in the face of her own diarchs? Every breath she takes is an insult to the world itself. Star Sparkle needs not to die, but to be utterly, totally, crushed. Everything she's worked on taken from her, all her achievements reduced to naught, all her accomplishments made void. Then, when the entire aircastle she's built around herself has crumbled to pieces, Lucent should do what he should have done the day Star walked out on Twilight to go on her pwecius expedition, namely, grow a pair and throw Star out in the gutter, to spend the rest of her days in a cardboard box under a bridge, hugging a bottle of alcohol, until she dies a lonely, miserable death, forgotten by the world she considered herself to be too good for.
I genuinely applaud you, Archonix, for making such a despicable character who has not a single redeeming factor about her, yet still makes us come back to read about her every time, if only in the hope that this time she gets what's been a long time coming to her. Bravo!
Star is a complete arse. And this is why she's such an utter joy to read.
A masterfully horrible creation if ever there was one.
Truly superb work, and well worth the wait.
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What's better is that her daughter has already accomplished this several times over. Twilight has many breakthroughs and isn't even an alicorn yet. Makes you wonder if Star is jealous of her a little bit. I also get the vibe that Star is rather unsettled by Lero with each new chapter.
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No, they have no need to cut Star from their lives. this is them showing her she already did it to herself, long ago.
I love this story
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That is a terrible thing to say!!! The only achievements she has made that are worth mentioning are Shining Armor and Twilight! How could you say something like that about them?! What did they ever do to you that you would wish them oblivion?
Life can feel like we have no control over it, but I don't think that's the case. We do have control over much of our own lives, it's just that the parts of our lives we have the most control over tend to be the parts we can't trust ourselves to control well. This is why we're social creatures, why we need support networks of friends and family to keep us balanced, to keep us from ruining ourselves.
The same, as Star Sparkle is illustrating, goes for ponies. If she were a cardinal sin, she'd be Pride, no question.
I'm starting to wonder if this story will wind up a cautionary tale of "Startleby the Scrivener."
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They're not her achievement. She squeezed them out of her cooch, but that's it. Especially Twilight. Nothing about Twilight is in any way Star's achievement, but Twilight Velvet's, who raised Twilight as her own, with some good influences from Celestia, Cadance and Shining Armour. Star Sparkle, though? Nothing about Twilight she can claim as her own achievement. Even the fact that she birthed Twilight could be attributed to Lucent knocking her up. I'm not going to insult our beloved bookworm by making her in any way indebted to that waste of pony-flesh called Star Sparkle.
5044027 But the genetics they received from her contributed to their power levels and the base material they all had to work with! And it is clear that Twilight did inherit her mother's brains. Besides, acting as an incubator for those two is far more important than anything else she has ever done. You know, like failing to find Kuur for twenty years.
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I dunno...I think honesty and truth are different things; honesty is presenting something so that it can be understood in the best way, and it's all about presentation: a bit like showing electrons rotating around a proton to a child to teach him about atoms: it's not strictly true, but it gets the message across.
Truth, on the other hand, is vulnerable to presentation. Do you think a black ex-convict is a dangerous person? Because I've just described martin Luther King. It's all true, but that doesn't make it honest; it's entirely possible to lie just by using the truth
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I personally think Honesty is when you're telling the truth, even and especially if it might cost you.
It is after all, rather easy to tell the truth when your dear ol' granny, or whatever, cooks a delicious meal...
When your boss is offering you a drink you know costs more than you make in an hour, but tastes like pickled cat urine? Quite a bit less so.
And I'd personally say that that type of obvious spin-doctoring in the later example in fact constitute a really nasty lie, IE since it's a clear try to deceive. Ever read the Ring of Time books? The female magic users of that setting make a vow on always telling the truth... but they are such grand-masters of double-speak, that not a single person outside their order will believe one of them if they as much as claim that water is wet.
Your own interpretations are of course also perfectly valid since we are talking about conceptual things. I do however hope the above bit of TL;DR clarifies why I find Star a genuinely sympathetic character I'd still never want to meet, though.
She's just burned so much of herself at the alter of 'The Next Big Discovery' that there really isn't much left beside that fire.
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Thing is, I don't think Star would fit your definition of Honesty either
Since she doesn't (or claims not) care about the reaction of other ponies, and she doesn't think her words will catch ever catch up with her (as seen in this chapter, where Twilight's reaction manages to surprise her), she's not risking anything* by telling the truth.
*that she knows of
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Man I should really answer a few of these comments. I just never know how to respond... I hope the eventual ending of this will satisfy you. Or at least some of you.
5043536 Interesting comparison. Very interesting...
5045637 The inevitable outcome of me taking so long to write this thing, I'm afraid.
Excellent decision, Star Sparkle! Hope that expedition proves to be worth it, especially when you're allowed an absolute bare minimal exposure to every single one of your future grandchildren for all the rest of your life!
Because, heaven knows that just... booking passage on a different boat, or whatever, and arriving a day or so late to something as precious as an expedition, is just out of the question.
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Well, if one may be guilty of a crime one did not know was one, surly the same can be said for virtues?
...Although that line of reasoning is kinda depressing when that honesty is almost the only redeeming bit of Star's personality.
5059789 I wonder if there's a distinction between someone who's honest and someone who doesn't see the point in lying?
god star... you make me reaaally dislike you as a person and love you as a character....
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...A honest optimist versus a cynical one?
Like that old joke by James Branch Cabell: "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true."
Although I guess it's rather cynical in and off itself to say something like that...
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I think you mean "The wheel of time", and they don't so much "take a vow" as take an oath that is enforced through the oath rod's magic. The oath they take prevents them from saying anything that they believe to be untrue, which is different from telling the truth. There is nothing that prevents them from a lie by omission or leading someone into coming to the wrong conclusion through careful phrasing. It's also quite possibly for them to say something that isn't true when they believe it to be true.
I think Star genuinly feels sorry for the mistakes she's made and wants to fix her relationship with her children but can't seem to figure out how. These expeditions of hers have become a way to escape what she feels she can't deal with. Anytime she feels overwhelmed by events in her life, she just leaves for parts unknown. Star somehow hopes that finding the object of her research will fix everything and redeem her. It's obviously a defense mechanism, just like her bluntness and constant attacks (after all the best defense is a good offense right?).
The only way Star will be able to reconnect with her children and fix her damaged relationship with Velvet is by accepting responsibility for her actions.
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Yeah, that one.
A vow and an oath is pretty much the same, by the way. Think a case may be made for an oath more often being done in the name of a higher power, but at their core both are a solemn promise about something.
Still, my main point is that there is a big difference between telling the thruth, and being honest; something i think the Eis sadai, or however that is spelled, rather exemplifies.
There isn't a single person in the whole series that actually trust them, and when they do anyway, they quite often pay for it.
Heck, the servants of the Dark freaking Lord have better PR.
Totally agree with this, though.
Jess H Christ. Every time I read this, I get more and more upset. Just the freaking attitude on this bitch of a mother makes me...I don't even know actually...just really annoyed. And don't get me wrong here. A good story can evoke powerful emotions just as this does, but...goddammit the bitchometer I have threatens to explode every time I read this. I both love and hate it.
5158812 is it exasperation at someone so self-entitled that she thinks that having to work at relationships to have them is something you can complain about?
5374420 May haps it's just how I am interpreting her behavior, but every time I read this it seems like she could care less about family and more about furthering her own goals. There is a difference between trying to make relationship work with others, but her asking Twilight to be of use and labeling it as an attempt to bridged a gap she widened herself is something entirely different. Even Shining said she done goofed. Look at Lero who is culturally disadvantaged but still makes more progress in a few years than what's-her-face has with her own kin in decades.
I do believe Star Sparkle has successfully unseated Sunbeam Sparkle from the Chair of the Canterlot's Worst Mothers Society.