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Huh, air in space, that is a novel idea. That opens up a lot of very rapid expansion options in space, gravity seems to be working as it does here so you could start building space industries relatively easily since you are not restricted to your tin cans no?
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Makes orbital space cities a very easy proposition, no need to use radiators to bleed excess heat, could use modest heating systems to warm the city, and no need for massive life support systems.
The threat of the higher tech levels. For the ponies, they have the greater magic skill to end the world, humans have refined the technology to do it.
How are the satellites going at orbital velocity through atmosphere without burning up or crashing? At least space flight should be possible for any plane with enough insulation and fuel.
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Of course, this story had numerous plot problems and general issues from the beginning that were and have not been addressed. Typical David Silver work; fairly popular but pretty pulpy and not all that great.
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Well it helps with the threat of over population if you can build massive orbital cities with much less cost to life support. Though imagine a poor Moon Colony, the Landlord moves your house millions of miles every day like it's nothing!
Also interesting how ot sort of explains why a LOT of the other species leave Equestria alone, they clearly think the ponies are insane!
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I am not certain but it will mess up a lot with orbital velocities no? All that air will cause friction, it will at the LEAST toss all of the calculations off the window. Will it not be a massive hassle to have enough speed to orbit, have low enough speed so you do not burn? Am no expert, but does this not mean that most of low-earth orbits are literally gone?
I can agree with disarming most of our nukes, maintaining and building such weapons is very costly, so with most of them gone we could put all that money into other things like advancing technology,...and weopons development. Xd
Thou I believe we should keep at least a dozen as a type of deterrence, and in case we should ever need them we would have some and could always make more if needed.
Also can we get the language change from ponish? Do all the races call it that? If so it really needs to be changed and the ponies humbled.
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I am certain United States can give up their nukes as soon as Celestia provides them with her Sun controlling methods. Fair and balanced is the way, is it not?
Trying for dismantling nukes is easier said than done. In fact I am certain that Congress once they hear of the Minotaur military alliance will demand that they stay at present levels.
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Over here in the Netherlands we have a comic series with a similar premise, the Chronicles of Pandarve. It's not a complete alien thing in fiction to have air in space, and as a setting it makes for an exotic one with boundless potential you wouldn't usually see in more grounded settings.
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"Okay, it's easy, first you have to be an alicorn chosen by the world to bear this duty- no? Okay, then you have to be born a unicorn- no? Oh, you have unicorn immigrants? Okay, then they have to perform this ritual that will make them lose magic for the rest of their lives. Each day. Oh, you'll run out of unicorn immigrants within a month? Well, then it's going to be a problem..."
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So you've not experienced this series, I gather? There is air in space, at least as said in secondary canon (comics) and never argued in primary. Every 'stupid' thing I've done is just draw attention to the fact that this is a cartoon universe with cartoon rules designed for little girls and when scientists suddenly have to deal with it, headaches form. Note the scientists are not going 'oh yeah that makes sense', no, this doesn't make sense. None of this makes sense. It is MLP.
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Not only that but she should also be willing to provide ways to override her own control of it and also instruct the relevant authorities on how to use any kind of "Hammer of Sun" options. She would be a fool to provide those kinds assurances, as would humans be fools to hand out their end game weaponry.
And that is before discussions dwell into Luna, restrictions and limitations of dream walking.
There's a cruel comparison one can draw between what's happening here, and the Cold War back on earth. There's a certain irony in America now holding the position of Russia as the big scary thing that's going to destroy the world unless everyone unites against it.
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Even if she could, there's no real way America could use this though. The movement of celestial objects has always been in the hands (well, horns, technically) of ponies. First unicorns, then alicorns.
Plus, the difference being that Celestia's control of the sun is a double edged sword that will harm her own ponies if she decides to stop raising the sun just as much as it would damage the enemy, Beyond that, it has never even been hinted at much less shown she can use it as a weapon. The deterrent of the sun is solely that if someone were to destroy Equestria, they would destroy themselves in the process.
Nukes are decidedly not double edged swords. America can completely obliterate the minotaur lands and not suffer one iota of damage from the direct act of doing so. Heck, one of the primary motivators to use nukes at the end of WWII was to avoid the massive Allied casualties that would inevitably take place had they tried taking Japan by ground assault.
One is a mechanism used to make sure the world works, the other a weapon. The two cannot be compared in the same manner.
Hey it could be worse. Everything could have been on a cob.
ETA: They thought the demonstration of the nuke was bad? Somebody go dig up Threads and show that to them.
Oops! You forgot to tell them about the radiation, the explosion is only half the terribleness of a nuke. Deadly radiation spreads in all directions for a dozen miles or more, and causes all the area it covers to be uninhabitable for a 100 years.
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A detonating nuclear plant is far more contaminating for far longer than a bomb, actually. Look at the two cities we did nuke, both recovered.
do let’s!
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Hah! So you noticed it too? Lol
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I'm assuming since no one has said anything about the recently launched satellites orbits decaying that some property of that universe (magic?) is allowing stuff to cheat up there and not be affected but such things. On the other hand, with access to magic and all that jazz, I wouldn't be surprised to see them come up with some way to make a reaction-less drive to provide the speed to stay in orbit(similar to the sun and moon in universe being punted around by magic horse things), or just levitate the platform at the desired altitude.
I wonder if twilight class will have a trip to some museums in America? maybe some historical site like pearl harbor? maybe a zoo it not insulting since their animals from another reality with different evolution and instincts. maybe Fluttershy and Applejack can get a degree?
crane has to be having one heck of a migraine America gaining its weapons from the wars by other places and keeping them to maintain order and deter fighting or at least not being its next target now the whole world flipped and America in an awkward situation for the effort and that force of editing nature.
I hope none of the other nations will do a sucker punch on America
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I actually saw a documentary on this not too long ago. A good part of the reason for this is that nuclear bombs are detonated before they hit the ground, so the fireball doesn't have as much chance to saturate the ground with radiation. Unlike a nuclear plant, where the fallout -in the rare cases plants suffer them- is almost always guaranteed to thoroughly contaminate the soil.
For Hiroshima, radiation declined extremely rapidly. After as early as 24 hours, the radiation was already 1/1000th the amount of the explosion itself, and a week later it was down to 1/1,000,000th. Most of the horrific radiation deaths we remember were from those who were in the city when the bomb exploded.
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Another huge huge factor is the amount of material involved. A bomb actually has wayyyyy less actual fisionned/fusioned material involved, and much of it gets used up in the blast itself.
A nuclear plant? Sitting on tons of fuel, and it all gets tossed around. Bad times.
Why do I imagine President Crane to look like the President from Sonic X
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Everything has always been one way, until they are not. Or to put it another way, there's a first time for everything. Science is currently where it can detect magic. How long until it can be generated?
A distinction without a difference. She can move it around. That's all it takes to make it a weapon. What prevents her from taking it from its proper place to hold it above whichever country pisses her off for 15 minutes and then put it back?
And even if she can't actually do that, how would you know? You only have her word for that. She can't prove that she can't, just like America can't prove that they actually destroyed their nukes and didn't keep a few just in case. There is no escape from MAD except a working defense.
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Perhaps... perhaps the particles that constitute "magic" both bond with everything and are slightly oppositional to gravity? Of course, the planet would have to be considerably larger than Earth to keep the subjective weight of things the same...
Should've showed them the wargames skit were the computer runs simulations till it figured out their are no winners would definitely be informative. Plus the benefits of being an ally vs. enemy ... mutual protection treaties ... you don't attack our allies or we attack you. Hell mostve them havent seen much of the navy or air force yet. Pirates beware. Trade and modernisation like seaquestria gets. Probably equestria and the crystal empire soon to.
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He's actually based on the president from the game Ni No Kuni his old self anyway https://www.google.com/search?q=ni+no+kuni+president&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjOiLThr_jgAhVNnuAKHX8bCIEQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=Ni+No+Kuni+pre&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.1.0.0j0i8i30l2j0i24l2.8563.9765..10597...0.0..0.117.361.3j1......0....1.........0i67._sQ4cq63NqM&ei=KW6FXI7QD828ggf_tqCICA&bih=560&biw=360&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=svin#imgrc=2WSvLacgUpGC-M
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Wouldn't anything in orbit around the planet de-orbit due to friction from dense enough air to breathe properly?
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Even if -and that's a big if- humanity can find a way to mechanically control the sun, that's not really something Celestia can give them right now, is it? That'd be like the UK agreeing to all the EU's demands for Brexit, but only if the EU gives them functional lunar colonies in return.
Because moving the sun close enough to damage a country in 15 minutes is going to obliterate that country, the continent it is attached to, any other countries that continent contains, the oceans surrounding said continent , which means it'll also destroy the continents on the other end of the world. "Moving the sun closer" means destroying the world. Nukes are a pin-point precision strike by comparison.
It's like that hypothetical nuke powerful enough to ignite the atmosphere. It's an empty threat, because nobody would use such a weapon.
This line chinches it for me. Favorite.
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I take it you haven't read the comics then?
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I wonder what the scientists would think of that stunt.
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This would also cause all sorts of problems for planes. They fly at high altitude because of the decreased air friction.
oh no, this would also mean that hot air balloons don't work. They would just continue up forever if there is no gradient.
deep space telescopes like the Hubble would not work as well. They are in space to avoid the distortion effects of atmosphere.
Also, would nukes still work? If they don't, then neither would nuclear power plants and that would have been discovered very quickly.
Unless there is some weirdness with magic that allows for power generation but not explosions.
Sounds like a test will need to be conducted. Maybe invite a few people/ponies/other species to watch.
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Why would one atmosphere minimums interfere with nuclear anything?
Air in space, does not someone ring the treasure planet? Mr. President, it is wise to reveal the existence of atomic weapons. None of his counselors told him: keep it a secret. Since we are sincerĂ¡ndonos also could you tell us if there are aliens in new Mexico?
Y'know, in all the hubbub about nukes, we're overlooking that the president is carrying a communication device that's transmitting the supposedly private negotiations straight outside. That's not going to go over well if discovered, especially in light of how much dust America has already been kicking up in this gathering.
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Maybe that's why they have to directly manage the motion of the sun and moon so regularly?
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The atmosphere would not effect nukes, but considering all the other weird things that don't work as expected, I would think that we would start double checking everything. Especially what we consider important to national defense.
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And then we have Fukushima.
It's been years since the Japanese government announced that it had "lost" the nuclear fuel...
Also I admire this President, announcing the existence of his nukes.
There was no easy nor comfortable way to do it and this conference was probably the best time - better than waiting then being accused of hiding world-ending weapons.
I feel for the pony and seapony allies.
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I dont think theres any rules saying he cant have a wire. Only that all guards will wait in separate room, I dont think that was done for private discussions really, and everything discussed will be brought to life when the president makes a statement on what occurred. How would they know what a wire is anyway? Xp
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Your last point kinda answers your first and second points. There are no rules against wires because this world doesn't have wires, and the leaders likely figured that telling guards to wait outside would have been enough to show that these meetings are intended to be private.
It's not as if the concept of behind closed door meetings is alien to America. These things happen all the time: a meeting is held with leaders in private, and only when the meeting is over are the results of the meeting discussed with other members of the government and the press.
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This is true, though, so far, things have worked too good. The satellites should have literally exploded and rained down in fragments. Then again... is this world spinning? There's actually very little implying the world spins at all. This is a geocentric universe, which changes so many rules it hurts.
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To be fair, in this uncertain location and event it's not wrong to have a little sense of security when your the president.
Just wondering...
What of the submarines that were docked ?
These would have been moved along with the landmass.
It may be a little late in the story to bring this in, but we know how brutal sonar can be to sea life.
They say whales beach themselves as an attempt to escape sound pressure levels which are lethal to human swimmers.
Military sonar vs seapony ?
Very bad.
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Heh.
And we are also forgetting that Chrysalis's drones can now mimic humans.
"How on Equus did Chrysalis know the details of this secured conference ??"
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That would be the case, air would cause drag. Things would lose a lot of power, and assumedly leaving gravity well would be more difficult since there is no gradual decrease of air drag as they go up? I am not sure about margins of space flight fuel but it could seriously mess up launches no?
Also, if amount of breathable air is constant in space around Equus, and possible around the universe and it just gets colder as you go up. This would mean that all elements which make air (Wiki) remain in same quantity despite heating or freezing. Those chemicals also have freezing points, most notable oxygen which condenses in -182, so if freezing goes past that then there would be liquid non-breathable areas more out. That or magic.
Also if there is air in space this would mean that Equus is putting out a LOT of energy all the time to keep warm, air is a good conductor and hot air goes upwards and that universe worth of cold air wants to go down.
Honestly, I feel sorry for Crane in this chapter. Having to explain the concept of nuclear weapons to a talking otter named Queen Ruddertail ( ) must feel like having to explain feline leukemia to a talking kitten. I feel like she was probably only asking about explosions so her people could finally crack open those mega-abalones they have trouble with!
Infinite air means you no longer have to worry about global warming or other forms of air pollution, human activity would not be able to affect that kind of volume. And since America just found vast new oil deposits, I predict Hummers for everyone (except those with taste).
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Also to be fair, the new nation with the massive army that just revealed to have weapons that can blow up cities being caught transmitting the meeting to his underlings is easy to interpret as a sign they're looking to start trouble.
Trust is a two way street, and as Ruddertail noted, America is asking a lot of it.
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Everything points against spinning, really. When the sun and moon stop, they hang in the air. They wouldn't be hanging in the air if the world spun. Heck, the whole need for a manual solar/lunar cycle would stop.
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Thaaaat I can see to cause a whole bunch of headaches in Congress, yeah. Especially since sea ponies are solid allies, and even some Americans are becoming Seaquestrians.
a interesting chapter and i real eyeopener for every creature